US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Meat Target]

My understanding of the Libertarian Party is that many lolberts like Styx see it as a giant grift and Youngrippa59 just see them as worthless retards.

The only thing lolberts hate more than the government is other lolberts. Ask a hundred of them what libertarianism means, and you'll get a hundred different answers.

 

[Paul Pelosi's Boyfriend]

Libertarians don't owe Republicans shit, especially not their vote. If you think they do, you can go on seething forever because you're too stupid to absorb voters from a party with ideals that overlap your own. I keep hearing that R's are supposed to be the party of liberty and deregulation but that rarely ever plays out when they're handed power. Get your own house in order before blaming everyone else for your own dog shit politicians not being able to get more votes than literal dead people. They're happy to complain all fucking day but they squander every opportunity they've ever been given to change things. Outsiders have no faith in you.

Ron DeSantis understands how you feel, friend. Those other Republicans are a bunch of seethers and weirdos.

 

[Tim the Tranny]

Politics General: “The two party system is poisonous and inherently broken”

Also Politics General: “DON’T EVER VOTE THIRD PARTY HOW DARE YOU!!!”

Keep blaming libertarians for the republicans shit performance. Post the Ben Garrison meme of the giant Jew stepping on voters again too. it’s been a few pages since it’s been posted.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Politics General: “The two party system is poisonous and inherently broken”

Also Politics General: “DON’T EVER VOTE THIRD PARTY HOW DARE YOU!!!”

Keep blaming libertarians for the republicans shit performance. Post the Ben Garrison meme of the giant Jew stepping on voters again too. it’s been a few pages since it’s been posted.

Third parties are used by one of the two parties, to steal votes and fuck over the other party.

In the 2020 election, the Democrats shut out the Green Party from the ballot in Wisconsin since they steal Democrat votes and blame them partially for why Queen Bitch lost in 2016.

Its not like the parliamentary system where multiple parties are worth something, however as far as voting lolbert goes.

Lolberts going to lolbert but its interesting how the lolberts fuck over the Republicans out of winning close races in many lean blue states lol.

Why does that never happen with the greens screwing the Democrats out of a win in a lean red state.

On a final note, a bunch of lolberts known as Mises Caucus iirc managed to unpoz parts of the Libertarian Party, and were shit on by the mainstream media for not embracing globohomo.

 

[Glowing In The Streets]

Libertarians don't owe Republicans shit, especially not their vote. If you think they do, you can go on seething forever because you're too stupid to absorb voters from a party with ideals that overlap your own. I keep hearing that R's are supposed to be the party of liberty and deregulation but that rarely ever plays out when they're handed power. Get your own house in order before blaming everyone else for your own dog shit politicians not being able to get more votes than literal dead people. They're happy to complain all fucking day but they squander every opportunity they've ever been given to change things. Outsiders have no faith in you.

I agree.
I find very amusing that Rs make fun of Ds for throwing shit at 3rd parties when it dilutes their votes only for them to do the same thing
Republicopes need to get better candidates or fix the rigging, else the status quo and the last minute backouts will continue

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

The only thing lolberts hate more than the government is other lolberts. Ask a hundred of them what libertarianism means, and you'll get a hundred different answers.

might have been a time you could have only gotten ninety different answers but a lot of the pot-smoking independent contractors dipped for the mainstream GOP around the tea party.

 

[Titos]

How dare you oppose the rise of future Supreme Leader Richard "Angel Laugh" Evans

Billy Bob Brockali/Evans 2024. Nobody is gonna fuck with a country ruled by this thing. There's war crimes in his eyes.

 

[The Man With No Name]

The only thing lolberts hate more than the government is other lolberts. Ask a hundred of them what libertarianism means, and you'll get a hundred different answers.

People will spend all year getting ass blasted that this Republican is just a RINO, or that they're MAGA but not MAGA enough, etc but then expect that everyone will flock out to vote for them when they don't get primaried out?

If a candidate loses in a 2% margin of Libertarian votes (that they were likely never getting, the Libertarians would just join 80% of people not fucking voting) then Democrat election fortification should be a bigger concern. You can easily fortify 2%

 

[Gar For Archer]

When it comes down to it, most people will go along to get along. Nobody is going to take up arms against the government because of COVID jabs, trannies or BLM. At best what we'll see are Ted Kazcynski and Eric Rudolph type lone wolves, who will ultimately accomplish nothing other than giving the government another excuse to crack down on civil liberties. On the other hand I firmly believe that we will see Cheka-style brigades of leftists put in charge of terrorizing right-leaning citizens into compliance. One could argue that Antifa/BLM fulfill that role right now. The right is so far behind the left in terms of organizational capacity and institutional support that for all intents and purposes, the cold civil war is over, and the left has won. The right needs to regroup starting from the mindset of underground resistance, with the understanding that it will likely take several generations for the tables to turn.

They’ve certainly won a lot of the big battles, and if it weren’t for the imminent depression, their stranglehold would be near insurmountable.

The reality of the situation, however, is that their war machine is incredibly expensive, and requires a LOT of money coming from up on high, going to a LOT of different places to keep all the wheels spinning. Captured institutions don’t just keep running themselves. This is fine when times are going well, and big corporations can be coerced into fronting billions of dollars on woke garbage, but when times get tough, revenue is going to dry up and suddenly they have to start thinking about what actually makes them money.

The college industrial complex is also in danger of collapse in the next couple of decades. If the depression hits hard, there’s a good chance a lot of small schools shut down, prospectless liberal arts degrees become out of reach for the average middle-class American, and colleges go back to being institutions for training normal people in essential skilled labor (engineering, medicine, etc) and where rich twats go to fuck around and study much less essential topics like the middle class are doing right now. College attendance has already been on a steady decline since 2008 (for, ya know, pretty obvious reasons) and COVID kicked it into higher gear when people realized they were getting a shit deal paying the same insane tuitions for garbage online schooling. Then throw in the progs pressuring the Dems to do college loan forgiveness… the moment that happens you can kiss goodbye to liberal arts degrees paid back with 40 years of Starbucks salary, because banks will suddenly start thinking about which degrees will actually be able to pay back their loan.

 

[ForTheHoard]

It would make sense for libertarians to vote for who they think would do the least damage, usually Republicans. The problem is that libertarians don't really think that way, and if they did, they would already be voting republican. There's a million reasons to vote for someone, but a lot of active 3rd party voters choose to vote for the candidate that best represents their ideals. If the day comes where I start voting for the lesser evil, I dont think it matters what party I vote for.

If I voted for Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Lady Clinton, and Biden, the world would look almost the exact same as If I'd voted for Bush, Dole, Bush Jr., McCain, Romney, and Cruz. Trump was the exception to that trend, and it happened not because of Republicans, but in spite of them.

Half the republican leadership is actively trying to slit the throats of the other half of republican leadership. Give me a republican that won't do the exact same shit that their democrat opponent would do, and I'll vote your way (Trump.) If you keep churning out neo conservatives and RINOs, I won't vote your way, because they will bring in the exact same policies that democrats will, and theres no point in supporting a candidate that's going to erode away my rights to avoid a partisan republican blaming me for their losses.

Somehow the democrats just lost total control of the legislature and the cope coming from the right is 100x more than the party that objectively lost.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Interesting to see that the Colorado House 3 race is so competitive, it doesn't seem it was one that was so publicized like the Georgia/Pennsylvania campaigns.

It's the ass-end of the state. The only reason anyone would care is because the Dems hate the hot shitposting gun mommy.

My guess is because the right hadn’t found a way to paint it as “MAGA patriot vs deep state pawn/stooge”. Also, for as much as Boebert has embraced MAGA, she hasn’t directly antagonized the left nearly as much as MTG, and especially not as much as Kari Lake.

They’ve certainly won a lot of the big battles, and if it weren’t for the imminent depression, their stranglehold would be near insurmountable.

The reality of the situation, however, is that their war machine is incredibly expensive, and requires a LOT of money coming from up on high, going to a LOT of different places to keep all the wheels spinning. Captured institutions don’t just keep running themselves. This is fine when times are going well, and big corporations can be coerced into fronting billions of dollars on woke garbage, but when times get tough, revenue is going to dry up and suddenly they have to start thinking about what actually makes them money.

I think there’s an issue with that: there’s some places that making money isn’t a factor but ideology and being in a position of influence is, such as the CRT and LGBT in schools being such a big deal, since any other time, those folks would be fired or “asked to resign” because of the controversy and angry parents, and then you had Cloudflare this past week, where Null posted on Telegram that dropping KF hurt their bottom line.

Along with the part of influence mattering more than money, and this is the really big part of it, there’s also the aspect of “keeping your position of power out of the hands of the enemy”. Leftists will do everything to make sure that the people they hate aren’t in power, and they are, and that everyone knows it. It’s why such a big deal was made out of 2020 and January 6th. It’s why Nancy Pelosi went from “ready to retire” to “staying as House Speaker” after Trump was elected in 2016, and MOST OF ALL, it’s probably why Biden never did anything such as dropping out of the 2020 campaign, announced he’s not gonna run for re-election, and ESPECIALLY why he hasn’t resigned from his position as President. (All that can apply to Fetterman, by the way).

Joker said it best: it’s not about the money. It’s about sending a message.

 

[Meat Target]

My guess is because the right hadn’t found a way to paint it as “MAGA patriot vs deep state pawn/stooge”. Also, for as much as Boebert has embraced MAGA, she hasn’t directly antagonized the left nearly as much as MTG, and especially not as much as Kari Lake.

Wasn't she the one who yelled at Beta O'Dork's "hell yes, we're gonna take your AR-15" comment, with "hell no, you are not"?

 

[Evilronald]

I am surprised that no one is covering how Alaska is playing out thanks to Cocaine Mitch fuckery.

I love how people like Cocaine Mitch would throw the country to democrats rather than have someone who’s pro-trump from getting elected. Fucking disgusting how big of sellouts the establishment are. It’s even worse when there are tons of democrats who run as republicans and vote that way except when it matters.

 

[Johann Bacha Bazi]

Unless the GOP actually addresses ballot harvesting/mail-in voting -- which they don't seem to be interested in since the "G" in "GOP" seems to stand for "grift" -- they're not going to score enough meaningful victories at the national level.
(I'm going to write in Weev for President in 2024 for the lulz.)

 

[Random Internet Person]

Unless the GOP actually addresses ballot harvesting/mail-in voting -- which they don't seem to be interested in since the "G" in "GOP" seems to stand for "grift" -- they're not going to score enough meaningful victories at the national level.
(I'm going to write in Weev for President in 2024 for the lulz.)

I think that’s what Kari Lake has put a lot of her campaign on, and @Gehenna I believe mentioned Wisconsin is basically waiting for something more concrete that they can act on. I think other state legislatures may be in the same boat.

Wasn't she the one who yelled at Beta O'Dork's "hell yes, we're gonna take your AR-15" comment, with "hell no, you are not"?

Maybe. Maybe not. I just know that whatever she’s done to make enemies, Kari Lake has done it tenfold.

 

[Paul Pelosi's Boyfriend]

The Lake show is continuing.

Also Boebert is now ahead. So be happy about your waifu getting reelected

 

[ForgedBlades]

Unless the GOP actually addresses ballot harvesting/mail-in voting -- which they don't seem to be interested in since the "G" in "GOP" seems to stand for "grift" -- they're not going to score enough meaningful victories at the national level.
(I'm going to write in Weev for President in 2024 for the lulz.)

Bingo.

Tangentially related: It blows my mind that election procedures and rules aren't federalized. I'm a huge proponent of state sovereignty and rights, but it's retarded to watch states like Florida get it right and then comparing it to the shit show every year in Arizona and Pennsylvania.

I know that regulating rules at the federal level would probably lead to shit like mail in voting and ballot harvesting legalized throughout the country, but fuck.

 

[PaladinBoo]

Um sweaty, this is completely different than that. The Korean Vietnam Gulf Iraq war was completely different. That war was obviously unjustified and the morons who were alive back then fell for a bunch of patriotic propaganda pushed out by MIC. This war is COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED AND 100% NECCESSARY. THIS COUNTRY I COULDN'T POINT TO ON A MAP FALLING REPRESENTS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THE US AND IF YOU OPPOSE THIS WAR YOU ARE AFUCKING TRAITROUS CRETIN. YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. YOU SCUM. HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE INTEGRITY OF OUR LEADERS. Besides, we're at the end of history. We're better than the dumb mud people that came before us and would never make the same mistakes.

I am so fucking tired of this song and dance. The notion people have that they are above the mistakes of their predecessors is the single biggest attributer to all the bullshit in the world. It's also a great way to pick out midwits.

It amazes me how the Zoomers embody the worst aspects of both the Left and the Right. With the Left they inherited their woke progressive politics and with the Right they inherited their warmongering imperialism. While they are possibly the most vile generation one can not also blame them for who they are. The types of propaganda that these schools taught them as kids is wild and sickening. It is nothing but woke shit but also at the same time warmongering propaganda in that these textbooks tell kids that every war America has ever fought over was for preserving "democracy" and fighting "fascism" and a good US citizen will kill and die to preserve "democracy" and fight against "fascism". It's sick. If the Zoomers ever get drafted they will learn right quick that the Uni-Party pulled a fast one on them.

 

[Fatboi Gus]

Bingo.

Tangentially related: It blows my mind that election procedures and rules aren't federalized. I'm a huge proponent of state sovereignty and rights, but it's retarded to watch states like Florida get it right and then comparing it to the shit show every year in Arizona and Pennsylvania.

I know that regulating rules at the federal level would probably lead to shit like mail in voting and ballot harvesting legalized throughout the country, but fuck.

If you trust a federal bureaucracy, something that has now been shown time and time over to eventually be captured by leftist ideologues, to run fair elections, I don't know what to tell you.

The states "fucking up" aren't doing so out of incompetence. There's a good reason why the last two states (OH and FL) to clean up their elections have been reliably red since.

 

[Gar For Archer]

My guess is because the right hadn’t found a way to paint it as “MAGA patriot vs deep state pawn/stooge”. Also, for as much as Boebert has embraced MAGA, she hasn’t directly antagonized the left nearly as much as MTG, and especially not as much as Kari Lake.


I think there’s an issue with that: there’s some places that making money isn’t a factor but ideology and being in a position of influence is, such as the CRT and LGBT in schools being such a big deal, since any other time, those folks would be fired or “asked to resign” because of the controversy and angry parents, and then you had Cloudflare this past week, where Null posted on Telegram that dropping KF hurt their bottom line.

Along with the part of influence mattering more than money, and this is the really big part of it, there’s also the aspect of “keeping your position of power out of the hands of the enemy”. Leftists will do everything to make sure that the people they hate aren’t in power, and they are, and that everyone knows it. It’s why such a big deal was made out of 2020 and January 6th. It’s why Nancy Pelosi went from “ready to retire” to “staying as House Speaker” after Trump was elected in 2016, and MOST OF ALL, it’s probably why Biden never did anything such as dropping out of the 2020 campaign, announced he’s not gonna for re-election, and ESPECIALLY why he hasn’t resigned from his position as President. (All that can apply to Fetterman, by the way).

Joker said it best: it’s not about the money. It’s about sending a message.

I should specify I’m talking more about the left’s stranglehold on non-governmental institutions, like media, tech, higher education, etc, which is largely what bankrolls their political organization. With regards to schools specifically… the right is taking action to wrestle power away on a local level, and succeeding in many instances. You could argue current efforts aren’t enough, but keep in mind this is a fight that only just started about a year ago, and widespread long-term impacts won’t become apparent for another 8-10 years.

With regards to non-governmental institutions… when you’re raking in billions in profits, you can afford to light some of that money on fire in the name of virtue-signaling. However, power and influence mean jack shit if you’re having trouble keeping the lights on at HQ. The Hollywood propaganda machine has basically already collapsed and is running on fumes. At the end of the day woke just isn’t profitable, and if you’re not making up that loss in other areas you can’t afford to play the “power and influence” game in the first place.