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Trump's going there, good.

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Everything Trump wrote is true, and you can see the loyalty thing is really what's pissing him off. Should he be doing this? Nah. Should Desantis man the fuck up and say something one way or the other instead of sucking up all the GOPe media cummies? Yep.
I don't like it, even if he's telling the truth. This shitflinging is exactly the kind of divide-and-conquer the Uniparty wants. Trump is being played like a fiddle.
 
just like little jimmy is winning until dad grabs the belt.

the problem is, there is no "winning". there is no leftist utopia (or fourth reich for that matter).
look at it this way, the vast majority doesn't really care about politics. why? because it doesn't really matter to them. left, right, uniparty, in a saner world it's still all the same in the end. the assumption is that everyone involved has a vested self-interest to keep the wheel spinning somewhere in the middle - the establishment so it can grift, the plebs to consoom etc.
however, any "win" in that scenario is knocking over the wheel, and then what? it doesn't matter from which direction the wheel is knocked over, down is down.

and even if they "win" for a moment, it's simply not sustainable. you can see it already where mediocrity gets promoted for the sake for "diversity, inclusion, equity", what do you expect to happen? same way nazi germany would have inevitably imploded (heritage over merit). same way russia did (party over merit), asf.

the obvious example is weimar, which was winning really hard too - till they didn't.
honestly, I blame historians for that shit, since they can't stop jerking themselves off over HITLER: RISE OF EVIL, putting it like he was grima wormtongue (or whoever the harry potter equivalent is for libtards), when in reality people VOTED for him. in a DEMOCRACY. weimar was a FEDERAL REPUBLIC (sound familiar?). I get it, politics are boring, foreign ones even more so, it's simply much easier to whine about MUH NAZIS than ask grandma - if you're old enough to have one who lived back then - why she did it. and then she's gonna tell you shit got so bad that they were ok with anyone promise to fix it. and he did fix it (for a while), even if it meant the nice jewish family next door gets picked up at 4am.

TLDR: there doesn't need to be a (cold) civil war, history is circular anyway.
Ayup, this is pretty much in line with my thoughts. Except I’ll add on an additional corollary: history is circular, and there’s absolutely nothing that can be done to change that. Depending on the specific circumstances surrounding the time, each cycle of prosperity may be longer or shorter, but it’ll eventually all go back to the same old adage; hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times.

Now, ideally the pendulum will swing back before shit really has the chance to hit the fan (and I would argue that this IS happening, even if it may not seem like it in-the-moment*), but even if they steal a total victory, there will be no hundred-year progressive reign of debauchery - just a few turbulent decades of them running the country into the ground before being deposed by a new generation of strong men who have never lived the comfortable life of the Pax Americana.

*Physics footnote: when a pendulum gets near the apex of its swing, there is a period of deceleration where its absolute position is still moving in the same direction, but its rate of movement is decreasing. Just because things still look like they’re getting crazier doesn’t mean the pendulum isn’t going to swing back - it just means we have yet to hit the inflection point of peak insanity. In my opinion, that inflection point is going to be the obviously oncoming global depression, which will probably hit before Biden’s term is over.
 
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I don't like it, even if he's telling the truth. This shitflinging is exactly the kind of divide-and-conquer the Uniparty wants.
Yes, and Trump is trying to flat out say this is what the GOPe wants to do and is trying to tell Desantis not to be stupid. Desantis can end it tonight with a statement that says "Trump needs to chill out, I'm not running" or "Stupid Orange Man with tiny hands I'm going to beat you so Ben Shapiro will think I'm epic!"

In this thread or the happening election thread someone said maybe Trump asked Ron to be his VP and he declined, which is probably another issue Trump has. It's the political equivalent of telling a kid I can give you a candy now or you can just wait 30 minutes and I'll give you 3 candies.
 
Trump's going there, good.

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Everything Trump wrote is true, and you can see the loyalty thing is really what's pissing him off. Should he be doing this? Nah. Should Desantis man the fuck up and say something one way or the other instead of sucking up all the GOPe media cummies? Yep.
Uh...Fact Check: It was not crack Gillum was caught with it was Meth and an OD'ng male prostitute.

Another Trump lie!
 
Yes, and Trump is trying to flat out say this is what the GOPe wants to do and is trying to tell Desantis not to be stupid. Desantis can end it tonight with a statement that says "Trump needs to chill out, I'm not running" or "Stupid Orange Man with tiny hands I'm going to beat you so Ben Shapiro will think I'm epic!"

In this thread or the happening election thread someone said maybe Trump asked Ron to be his VP and he declined, which is probably another issue Trump has. It's the political equivalent of telling a kid I can give you a candy now or you can just wait 30 minutes and I'll give you 3 candies.
Calling your heir, protogé, and closest ally "sanctimonious" is out of line and completely uncalled for.
 
Trump's going there, good.

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Everything Trump wrote is true, and you can see the loyalty thing is really what's pissing him off. Should he be doing this? Nah. Should Desantis man the fuck up and say something one way or the other instead of sucking up all the GOPe media cummies? Yep.
Oh cool start shitting on a guy who should logically be the guy who follows you.

Jesus fucking Christ the Conservative moment are a bunch of retard losers.
 
To me, Trump's statement comes across as whiny and petulant. I think only someone very firmly in the MAGA camp could have a positive reaction to messaging like that, whereas most independents, even conservative-leaning ones like myself, are going to be turned off by that sort of behavior.

The MSM is using his ego against him and he's falling for it hook, line, and sinker. (Maybe he's not a master 4D chess player after all? :o)
 
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I think that’s what Kari Lake has put a lot of her campaign on, and @Gehenna I believe mentioned Wisconsin is basically waiting for something more concrete that they can act on. I think other state legislatures may be in the same boat.


Maybe. Maybe not. I just know that whatever she’s done to make enemies, Kari Lake has done it tenfold.
The Wisconsin legislature can't do much with the dem governor in office. The GOP wanted a veto proof super majority but didn't manage to get it. They wanted to push through new legislation making restrictions to mail-in votes and such but that got vetoed by the governor.
 
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Oh cool start shitting on a guy who should logically be the guy who follows you.

Jesus fucking Christ the Conservative moment are a bunch of retard losers.
To me, Trump's statement comes across as whiny and petulant, I think only someone very firmly in the MAGA camp could have a positive reaction to messaging like that, whereas most independents, even conservative-leaning ones like myself, are going to be turned off by that sort of behavior.

The MSM is using his ego against him and he's falling for it hook, line, and sinker.
THANK YOU. Trump needs to check his ego and realize that MAGA is not about him. Yes, he's the standard-bearer of it, but it's not a cult of personality.
Have we considered that the only reason Ron would run for president would be to fuck over MAGA and give the election to the democrats
When has Ron made any indication of doing that? That's idiotic. He's not McCarthy or McConnell.
 
The MSM is using his ego against him and he's falling for it hook, line, and sinker.
They have been doing this since 2016 and this is always how he reacts. This is why the Trump base loves him; he speaks like a real person and not a politician. He is rightfully pissed off because someone who he had the back of is now buddying up with his arch enemies. Independents didn't help much at all in the midterms and that is simply because Trump converted them to republicans. There aren't that many left to get.

When has Ron made any indication of doing that just to throw it? This is idiotic.
If the GOP fucks Trump over in 2024 i'll straight up write in his name or not vote for president. I know a lot of other Trump voters will do the same. I hope he runs 3rd party just so he can get more votes than the GOPe whore they force in.
 
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