Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

If the rumors are true about Mary Mayhem and Mecharandom, very likely they're both at least bisexual.
She appears to be in a long-term relationship with former Midnight's Edge "personality", alleged writer/actor/musician/"standup comedian", and enthusiastic feeder Robb aka RobotShlomo. Mr. Shlomo departed Midnight's Edge after the MechaRandom42/Merry Meltdown drama ensnared his partner, the spacetime-bending mass of negative-charisma known as Tom "I must take credit for every good take ever" Connors. Tom going full Moby Dick made Robb's position untenable both at M.E. and inside MechaRandom simultaneously, thus the elderly George Costanza of genre entertainment commentary was faced with a decision: a prospering YouTube career or a riding crop across the buttocks from a fat girl 20 years his junior. Robb made the obvious choice. In my book, the day Robb played Daniel to Mecha's Kumiko and chose to fight for her honor, as Peter Cetera taught us, was the day love won over the forces of cynical grifting.



From the twisted mind of Todd Solondz, director of such nihilistic films as Welcome to the Dollhouse, Happiness, and Wiener-Dog comes his next misanthropic masterpiece: A nebbishy Jewish man takes his fat shiksa to Arby's to debate the relative merits of fast food chicken sandwiches while Belinda Carlisle's smash hit 1987 single Heaven Is a Place On Earth crystalizes yet another deep dive into the "dark underbelly of middle class American suburbia".

A large part of her appeal, both to the FM and the human testicle (Tom) was as a pet 'minority'. Rainbow and a woman. The fact she leaned into that and would bring out the riding crop...on stream! speaks volumes.

Mecha was always as she is. That says more about the testicle and the FM than it does her.

@Pilule Noire it's worth noting, all of this slum slap fight was two swamp creatures arguing about them being mean to each other. This isn't about the people buying the fucking funny books.

Meanwhile, Shad is trying to frame this Iron Age as being for da fans. Which, maybe? We know Mike doesn't give a fuck about fans. But with Shad driving, maybe he either keeps up the pretense or does actually care. The outcomes the same. For me, Mike's a ticking time bomb. He's humble now, because things are good. But once his head swells, he's going to be Mike and start saying things that show he doesn't give a fuck about the plebs. To be fair, I don't think he's alone. Most swamp creatures in comics today couldn't give a fuck what you think. The exception is there is a generation that grew up in the 90s being worshiped and desperately need that sweet adulation because they are addicted to it.
 
I have no idea where Shad can/will take this Knights of the Old RepublicWatch thing. He wants to build a team, but the CV practically lists all requirements that some solo youtuber could do, with the compensation of "good hourly salary". As a techbro this gives me Vietnam flashbacks to all the job listings that practically wants an entire IT department for the cost of a gourmet sandwich and cheap beer. The only people who would be interested in this are newbies who want a platform to jump off of later when they can hold some of their own (Shad's) audience.

The only problem with this is that critiquing pop culture became a popular pastime on youtube that everyone can do with a fraction of those requirements and still achieve some results. Desparu for example, who was recently on FNT, was a run of the mill gaming youtuber, but when he started to shittalk Halo (or WOT I can't remember which) his views skyrocketed, a year, a few horrible TV shows, and an FNT appearance later he's over 100K subs, and I doubt he has to work from 9 to 5 to put OBS on and snark over a crappy episode of TV.
 
But this magnificent original only has a tenth of the viewers! Poor Well Read, it's a hard life down in those CG slums, with these lords just coming down and bumming you for content, whenever they like. Can't be much fun. But good on him for wrangling those slumming, bumming gaylords into a gaily entertaining slapfight,

Life in the rainy streets of Slumtown CG has always been a cut throat affair. There, actual content that could be used to elevate a stream beyond the usual low-effort talking rectangle snorefest is more precious than gold, jealously guarded not just from the covetous hands of the self-styled Comicsgate Lords, empowered by the lifegiving radiance of the Frogfather, but from being snatched up by one's fellow slumdwellers as well.

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As we see here, the hungry upstart <500 sub channel "Gen X Strong" went so far as to reupload the Well Read under a different title better optimized for youtube search terms and has gone on to eclipse the original video in views. Not only that, Gen X Strong dutifully made sure all the parts containing Well Read in what should have been his finest hour were edited out for viewer convenience and enhanced enjoyment, the end effect ensuring he receives as little exposure as possible. Tragic, but that's just the way things go in the slums.




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Oh right, Frog (at least Reigbow the Brute) Aaron Lopresti, Graham Nolan and Justin Murphy have been added to the 'no robots' tag and are now also shadowbanned from Indiegogo. This, to me anyway, satisfies the burden of proof that this is not some unintentional breach of IGG TOS caught by an impartial algorithm but a human element watching and then targeting the panelists of the most prominent Comisgate youtube ensemble shows - Comicsgate Kings and the CG Ballers. Regular presence on those two shows is the strongest corollary on whether a campaign will be visible on Google and Indiegogo or not.

That Warcampaign got swept into the shadowban as well is interesting; it implies a SJW, who are only superficially aware of happening in Comicsgate and may well think WC is still in CG, is directing the shadowbanning. A CG/Frog alog would be far more comprehensive and precise in their targeting.

In the past IndieGoGo has been comparatively quick and transparent with enforcement over perceived client TOS breaches ( @COMMI3 MARK 's punching Nazis cover, Malin's GYS swimsuit cover, the JDA/Liam arc); their reticence to divulge what's going on here (to me) suggests that this may be someone else, like someone causing problems with their payment processor (Stripe Inc) over their support of Comicsgate patrons and are awaiting resolution. And if a 12 billion dollar finance company is putting pressure on Indiegogo over CG, then Comicsgate is in real trouble.
 
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This, to me anyway, satisfies the burden of proof that this is not some unintentional breach of IGG TOS caught by an impartial algorithm but a human element watching and then targeting the panelists of the most prominent Comisgate youtube ensemble shows - Comicsgate Kings and the CG Ballers shower.

The fact that they removed the very obvious "promotable=no code" and rushed to hide and replace it with something less transparent was proof enough for me
 
Frog (at least Reigbow the Brute) Aaron Lopresti, Graham Nolan and Justin Murphy have been added to the 'no robots' tag and are now also shadowbanned from Indiegogo. This, to me anyway, satisfies the burden of proof that this is not some unintentional breach of IGG TOS caught by an impartial algorithm but a human element watching and then targeting the panelists of the most prominent Comisgate youtube ensemble shows - Comicsgate Kings and the CG Ballers.
It's a tragic injustice when the platform hosting your campaign - the one that you are relying on as a stalwart business partner - is suppressing you for no reason when they absolutely should be sticking with you come hell or high water and your FOX News boomer political sperging unhatched-chicken-inventory stream turns out to be somewhat of an embarrassment of over-enthusiasm in anno Domini 2022. Keep the spirits up, CG. Even if you get buried 80-miles out and 6 feet deep from based and redpilled IGG, know that you always did your best and in no way were you being unnecessarily provocative in a way counter to your immediate interests. When shit like this happens, sometimes the only thing left to do is sing.


Oh, I come from the south.
From the deep, deep south.
Where the fields of cotton just die with blight
And my pappy reads Esquire with delight
While my Alabamy Mammy plays bridge all night
Way down south in Dixie

Swing low, sweet chariot
Coming for to carry me home.

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Männer des Deutschen Reichstages!

Amerika ist eine von einem Präsidenten mit großer autoritärer Vollmacht geleitete Republik. Deutschland war einst eine von einer bedingten Autorität geführte Monarchie, -später eine autoritätslose Demokratie, heute eine von starker Autorität geführte Republik. Zwischen beiden Staaten liegt ein Ozean. Die Divergenzen zwischen dem kapitalistischen Amerika und dem bolschewistischen Rußland müßten, wenn überhaupt diese Begriffe etwas Wahres in sich hätten, wesentlich größer sein als zwischen dem von einem Präsidenten geführten Amerika und dem von einem Führer geleiteten Deutschland.

You didn't go too far, Jon. You turned off the subtitles so the edgy video by Jewish agent provocateur Rucka Rucka Ali was incomprehensible and thus unfunny and then played it twice. You did great.
 
Judging by the latest troonops on KF, the "SJW" model has been retired in favor of the ever-lurking threat of Big Troontech. There aren't enough Tanks to take out all of these traitorous Cypher troons behind the scenes. The only way to avoid that now is to start up a new crowdfunding platform for comic books, but somehow I feel like the market isn't big enough to justify the investment. So here we are again, back to kissing corporate cloaca...
 
wouldn‘t it be entertaining if Smiller launched a book (through another big youtuber proxy of course) and at the same time EVS launches Cyberfrog 3? Can you imagine the salt we would get if Smiller actually beat him in funding?
 
Judging by the latest troonops on KF, the "SJW" model has been retired in favor of the ever-lurking threat of Big Troontech. There aren't enough Tanks to take out all of these traitorous Cypher troons behind the scenes. The only way to avoid that now is to start up a new crowdfunding platform for comic books, but somehow I feel like the market isn't big enough to justify the investment. So here we are again, back to kissing corporate cloaca...

The start up capital would have to be insane and there are institutional barriers. You'd need a bank. Because the problem isn't the platforms, but banking. Banks lean on platforms that go against the grain. That's why crypto is so alluring to free speech advocates despite all its inherent risks.

For anyone curious, we're talking start up liquidity in the tens of millions with additional costs of start up and infrastructure you're looking at far more than the CG pay piggies could foot. Then there's the FDIC who would stand in your way if you even got the insane capital necessary.

That's the power of the globohomo and why any counter culture movement that doesn't have serious goals to make structural, political change is doomed to be at the mercy of the very forces they claim to fight.

Comicsgate isn't conservative, isn't counterculture. It'd be better for Frog et al to shed the brand, but then they'd lose the grift bucks. So it's a no win scenario. You cuck to the globehomos like Frog does and keep going until they get you like some bank robber in the 20s or you actually go culture war, in which case you're also fucked because Trump had four fucking years to gut the FDIC and the people running the finance sector and didn't do a fucking thing.

Maybe post Trump we'll get an actual populist conservative, but I'm not holding my fucking breath.

tag me with you political reactions all you want. But this is exactly what's happening to the farms right now.

It is fucking political and it's not going to go the fuck away.

Anyway, it's bullshit because Malin/Frog aren't anti globalhomo but, shocker, none of those people fucking care because wrong think.
 
tag me with you political reactions all you want. But this is exactly what's happening to the farms right now.
Meh. Election week and on the heels of numerous politically-charged streams. Feels like fair game.

Anyway, it's bullshit because Malin/Frog aren't anti globalhomo but, shocker, none of those people fucking care because wrong think.
Disaffected moderates/liberals who've convinced themselves that they're right-wing going HAM being pissed off at leftists despite the asymmetry of motives/means/tactics/"values"/etc. inherent to each side's political positioning resulting in said crypto-moderates being cucked forever playing a game they cannot win. Hard to prevail politically when your Overton Window is actually that gay slit in the door you slide letters through.

I like silly/bizarre political ideas and am learning to appreciate this weird nested matryoshka doll of conservative lame takes that Ethan is able to cultivate between himself and his co-panelists. I liked the ejection of Jimmy Reyes for being Insufficiently Political during the "Red Wave" stream and particularly last night, I enjoyed the push-back against Robert Romano who - fun fact - is the only person in the medical literature known to have been diagnosed with Progeria and beat it, which I think is super cool.

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Meh. Election week and on the heels of numerous politically-charged streams. Feels like fair game.


Disaffected moderates/liberals who've convinced themselves that they're right-wing going HAM being pissed off at leftists despite the inherent asymmetry of motives/means/tactics/"values"/etc. inherent to each side's political positioning resulting in said crypto-moderates being cucked forever playing a game they cannot win. Hard to prevail politically when your Overton Window is actually that gay slit in the door you slide letters through.

I like silly/bizarre political ideas and am learning to appreciate this weird nested matryoshka doll of conservative lame takes that Ethan is able to cultivate between himself and his co-panelists. I liked the ejection of Jimmy Reyes for being Insufficiently Political during the "Red Wave" stream and particularly last night, I enjoyed the push-back against Robert Romano who - fun fact - is the only person in the medical literature known to have been diagnosed with Progeria and beat it, which I think is super cool.

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i was wondering when Reyes was going to get the boot. That guy is almost as annoying as Reenie.
 
Meh. Election week and on the heels of numerous politically-charged streams. Feels like fair game.


Disaffected moderates/liberals who've convinced themselves that they're right-wing going HAM being pissed off at leftists despite the asymmetry of motives/means/tactics/"values"/etc. inherent to each side's political positioning resulting in said crypto-moderates being cucked forever playing a game they cannot win. Hard to prevail politically when your Overton Window is actually that gay slit in the door you slide letters through.

I like silly/bizarre political ideas and am learning to appreciate this weird nested matryoshka doll of conservative lame takes that Ethan is able to cultivate between himself and his co-panelists. I liked the ejection of Jimmy Reyes for being Insufficiently Political during the "Red Wave" stream and particularly last night, I enjoyed the push-back against Robert Romano who - fun fact - is the only person in the medical literature known to have been diagnosed with Progeria and beat it, which I think is super cool.

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It's funny to watch Frog and company bounce back and forth from politics are lame to MOTHERFUCKA THEY TURNIN THE FROGS GAY!

i was wondering when Reyes was going to get the boot. That guy is almost as annoying as Reenie.

There it is. It's a show. Be entertaining or fade into obscurity.
 
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Frog just had a debate with one of Nerdette‘s simps, Organized Chaos. Overall, it was repitive circular arguments about Ethan being homophobic because he calls people gay and soy.


But than Robert bought up the situation with Darwyn Cook’s widow saying that her husband was never CG saying that EVS thought he knew Darwyn better than his wife. To which Ethan said that he didn’t. The arguement kept on going like that until EVS scored a knockout blow by playing this video.


The chat went wild, Oganized Chaos tried a weak comeback by bringing up a tweet of EVS saying that Darwyn Cook was CG to which EVS owned up to Chaos left the debate soon afterwards.
 
Frog just had a debate with one of Nerdette‘s simps, Organized Chaos.
Damn. Just based on this guy's homosexual supervillain voice I was sure that he at least had a bit of dirt or maybe would be capable of banter. Guy might be dumber than Nerdette with a voice nearly as bad as hers. Its been said a bunch upthread but EVS truly is blessed with retarded opposition.
 
Everything moves so slowly with CG, I swear they're like reverse Weeping Angels, where things only happen when I'm looking. Months and months can go by without me watching their vids, and they're always making the same promises...
"Hey guys, I just changed the oil in my car, I had my morning burrito, can you hear my aircon? I read a comic that sucked. I've started a new workout regime. I went to the post office. My five year late comic will post for realsies next week."
 
The fact that they removed the very obvious "promotable=no code" and rushed to hide and replace it with something less transparent was proof enough for me

They'd have hidden the 'robots = noindex' tag too if they could, but hiding a page from appearing on Google requires that tag to be publicly visible so their webcrawler can catch it. In the past Indiegogo has been very direct when someone crosses their draconian rules and they feel they're in a position to dictate terms (as you can personally attest); this shift to subterfuge and refusing to disclose the issue while under public pressure implies to me that the issue may not necessarily be something within their control. Although JDA argues in his video that the blackout on communications is a post-Teddy Spaghetti legal tactic to urge CG towards the door in a way that does not leave them open for a lawsuit.

While in the Comicsgate mythos platforms like Kickstarter (and now Indiegogo I guess) play the role tyrannical woke monoliths oppressing the entrepreneurial CG little guy, in the greater scheme of things crowdfund platforms are merely the next highest step in a global hierarchical finance pyramid, escrows and middlemen at the complete and total mercy of the payment processors that can and often do issue top-down fiats to client companies that are reliant on them to terminate the services of designated cancelled people.

If what's happening is because Indiegogo is a (very badly managed) reaction to pressure from a source they themselves have to answer to, like their payment processor, then it doesn't matter if CG publicly burns its bridges with Indiegogo and flounces off to Kickstarter or wherever. Kickstarter and Indiegogo both rely on the same payment processor, Stripe Inc, and if they're the ones that are the source of the pressure on these platforms on behalf of some troon cancel activist campaign, it makes me ask: "Will the next place Comicsgate decides to mass-move to bother with a shadowban under similar pressure, or will they just simply terminate their campaigns?"

Indiegogo still accepting CG business in exchange for 10% of their campaigns not being visible on a google search that account for a negligible amount of funding, may be light compared to the treatment CG may face if they take their business elsewhere.

Whatever the case, this situation is why I've always argued that the idea of "crowdfund platform exclusivity", and actually purity testing would-be members on the issue was incredibly retarded from the get go. The goal is to exchange money for a comic; how that's done shouldn't be important.


Anyways, the Comicsgate sector is reacting to this in a number of ways.


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Michael Bancroft sounded the call to action by asking his followers if there was a way to do a blanket search for campaigns that by definition do not appear on any searches. If you're reading this Bancroft: fuck you.


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Dojo Kun Comics, possibly more substantively, threatens to bring his credentials as a federal fraud investigator to bear against IndieGogo's suspected malfeasance against Comicsgate. If nothing else, this may stand a higher chance of breaking Indiegogo's silence.

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Shane Davis wife, inker and superchat mongler Yanzi Lin threw together a wordpress page holding some manually added links to active crowdfund campaigns, "Comicsgreats.com" will no doubt be a fine new addition ot the other comicsgate campaign aggregators that already exist but nobody knows about or uses like IndieCron, CreatorGo and CGNow.




Simple Zack decided to weigh in on the shadowbanning. He did a "cursory inspection" of some content he viewed somewhere which leads him to believe that it is happening. He then gets sidetracked with a boomer rant about how search engines were better 20 years ago. Back on track - he confirms that some creators are shadowbanned. Some of the afflicted are what Meyer characterizes as "normie", and others as "controversial". It is totally inconsistent. But what does 'shadowbanned' mean really? It's a meaningless term. Voting in Zack's experience is also meaningless, since he's on the subject. Sometimes words are filtered in the comments his youtube community page; he's noticed posts containing the word 'commie' are held for review. It doesn't make sense to Zack why the normies are eating a shadowban. Maybe, Zack posits, being shadowbanned is something you feel. He's reminded of certain trigger words like 'kill yourself' getting livesteams demonetized. There's a pattern in what's happening, but he just can't see it. Apparently there's a tool you can use to see if your campaign is demonetized?

This concludes Simple Zack's thoughts regarding the shadowbanning.



Frog, understanding that this is a time where leadership is needed, snapped to action woke up at 7PM to use his time productively debate balding autist Robert Setlock III aka "Organized Chaos" on if Comicsgate is a hate movement or not. Robert enters the debate somewhat annoyed on account of Frog showing up two hours late. Bad internet connectivity due to the simulcast Setlock insists on having for fairness' sake makes the first half hour unlistenable, which Frog generously fills up with shilling Rekt Planet, repeating of the tenets of Comicsgate and its opposition to wokeness and overall banter and self-aggrandizement. Eventually though Organized Chaos turns his camera off, which improves latency enough to begin actual discourse.

Much like the debate with Nerdette, Setlock's approach is to simply lay out a series of leading questions along the lines of "what is wokeness?" and "prove to me a comic is woke" which would place Frog in the position to making the arguments to Organized Chaos' satisfaction as socratic interrogator and psuedo-arbiter of the debate. Which of course he would never concede no matter what the answer was, therefore making him the winner of the "debate" by default. Unfortunately for him, Frog had zero intention of answering any questions from Organized Chaos and has no respect for him or his opinions, and so immediately derails his cart from the debatical railroad tracks Setlock has constructed to go do donuts and tear the nearby lawn up into a mudpit while Setlock stands there unable to take a stance of actual opposition, as that would require abandoning his pretense as the would-be 'arbiter' of the validity of Frog's answers.

Frog is responsible for what Comicsgaters do? Okay then by that logic Organized Chaos is responsible for everything SJWs do. Answer for Robbie Rodriguez showing Frog his butthole, Robert! If Frog doesn't deliver his comic books, what's this proof copy of Rekt Planet doing in his hands? Buy now on Indiegogo! You just lied Robert! Frog regales the chat with long polemical monologues about how Organized Chaos is ontological evil and how it is Comicsgate's holy mission to oppose him. At one point Frog argues calling people things "soy" isn't homophobic, but instead taking all the negative characteristics once associated with being gay (effeminacy, weakness, etc) in a term that does not discriminate against sexual preference and assigning them to pussies and bitches like Robert. All the 5+ hour livestreams, sleeping in instead of showing up to the debate on time and hanging around TJ Dopeness seem to have paid off as Frog shows no sign of fatigue in giving speeches or overtalking Organized Chaos' repeated, ignored questioning.

Eventually someone in Setlock's chat along with Forced Adversity, sensing desperation, throws him a bone by throwing out the Darwyn Cooke thing from 2016. Frog reponds that that was a gayop, and also it was Billy Tucci who said that Darwyn would be Comicsgate, not him. And also Darwyn Cooke hated what leftists were doing to comics so he'd probably be CG if he was alive anyway. Organized Chaos asks "So you're saying you know him better than his wife does?", to which Frog replies "No I don't know what Darwyn Cooke's penis looks like". Setlock asks the same question a few more times, but Frog starts doing donuts again and also starts calling him a liar over and over, at which point an audibly fatigued Robert Setlock decides to retire for the evening, claiming victory on account of Frog "showing his ass" and getting him to say politically incorrect things. Whatever.




Finally, Vikki and Dean at D&V Investigations released their findings into the matter of the Indiegogo shadowban against prominent Comicsgate campaigns. (Highly) paraphrasing as best I can, Vikki's thesis is that Comicsgate has developed a persistent business culture of flagrantly and regularly going against Indiegogo's Terms of Services, including such commonly accepted practices as using the campaign status update tool to send out notices for upcoming campaigns, exceeding the 90 day expected maximum between a campaign going into InDemand and fulfillment, and a number of other policy violations regarding sexual and violent content on what should be an all-ages platform that are all justifiable cause for being placed on a shadowban list.

The only thing that has changed is a turnover in Indiegogo's Trust and Safety handlers from one fraud detection agency to another, more efficient AI-powered enforcer, which came into effect at around October 15th, 2022 which was around when the first "shadowbannings" started to be noticed. In summation, Comicsgate campaigns are not being discriminated against or shadowbanned - Indiegogo creator accounts with an established history of TOS violation are - and claims otherwise amount to nothing but unfounded conspiracy theory.
 
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That Warcampaign got swept into the shadowban as well is interesting; it implies a SJW, who are only superficially aware of happening in Comicsgate and may well think WC is still in CG, is directing the shadowbanning. A CG/Frog alog would be far more comprehensive and precise in their targeting.
this will only become big news if they shadow banned zacks Rambo campaign. there are to many well connected people involved with that.
 
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They didn't stop simple zack from forgetting to put "Rambo" in the goddamn campaign title, I think you're a bit optimistic on their ability to notice an html tag.

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At a funding goal of $50,000, we will see if current year Ya Boi will be able to accomplish with the help of Sylvester Stallone, Critical Drinker and Chuck Dixon, 1/10th of the success Smiller was able to achieve with an australian nerd who makes youtube videos about LARPing.
 
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They didn't stop simple zack from forgetting to put "Rambo" in the goddamn campaign title, I think you're a bit optimistic on their ability to notice an html tag.

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At a funding goal of $50,000, we will see if current year Ya Boi will be able to accomplish with the help of Sylvester Stallone, Critical Drinker and Chuck Dixon, 1/10th of the success Smiller was able to achieve with an australian nerd who makes youtube videos about LARPing.
Fuck Zack, I wanna see how he copes with the fact That he didn’t have EVS there to shill his campaign every five minutes.
 
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