Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

Mandy made like $14k on her own website or some shit

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With uh, Jack the Ripper Superhero #2

Is this the continued Rippa Effect with creating your own website, or increasing frustrations with IGG?

I can't say that I love the Serial killer turned out to be a good guy Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter ripoff genre in CG (To include Ed Gein: Demon Hunter), but at least it's not fuckin' werewolves. Congrats Tits MaGee
 
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Does Mike S. Miller have any involvement in the Shadow of the Conqueror comic book other than drawing it for Shad Brooks? He seems to be hyping it rather enthusiastically for a money grubber. Is he getting paid by the amount raised?
 
Does Mike S. Miller have any involvement in the Shadow of the Conqueror comic book other than drawing it for Shad Brooks? He seems to be hyping it rather enthusiastically for a money grubber. Is he getting paid by the amount raised?

Yes. Mike did a full adaptation from script to completion and is the project manager. He is getting a percentage of the cut. He's crushing it and hustling hard.
 
No. MechaRandom went on JDA's stream to yell and make noise about how he needs to stay off her channel and when her tantrum was ignored, she held up a picture of a naked woman (who was clearly not Mecha) splaying her crotch and feet to the camera, presumably so that the stream can then be flagged. JDA since then has been going around claiming it was MechaRandom's personal meatflaps.

When two cows meet....

Is Mecha a lesbian? She is obessed with Brie Larson and now this...? Very suspicious.

She's in a relationship with Robb, whose career and friendships she destroyed.

Does Mike S. Miller have any involvement in the Shadow of the Conqueror comic book other than drawing it for Shad Brooks? He seems to be hyping it rather enthusiastically for a money grubber. Is he getting paid by the amount raised?
Yes. Mike did a full adaptation from script to completion and is the project manager. He is getting a percentage of the cut. He's crushing it and hustling hard.

How's he gonna fuck it up? Sell it for magic internet beans?
 
I am the victim here.

No. MechaRandom went on JDA's stream to yell and make noise about how he needs to stay off her channel and when her tantrum was ignored, she held up a picture of a naked woman (who was clearly not Mecha) splaying her crotch and feet to the camera, presumably so that the stream can then be flagged. JDA since then has been going around claiming it was MechaRandom's personal meatflaps.

Good luck to Vikki campaign spinning this into anything but another W for me as yet another one of my haters is clearly a complete weirdo crazy who goes unhinged. You'd think you guys would learn to stop simping for varicose veins at this point since nothing vikki and her group seethe about ever pans out or ever moves the needle except to give us more content to laugh at.
 
I was just answering a question as factually as possible Jon. No need to take it so personally. Of course if I'm wrong, I'm sure MechaRandom42's nudes will be all over the internet any time now.

I think at this point CG creators need to be expanding their horizons to Kickstarter. I was looking at EVS’s stream and Mike Baron was talking about how another one of his projects, The Private American got shadowbanned from indiegogo.

Of course, something like that would probably get shadowbanned on Kickstarter as well but what I am saying is that is happening more and more often with IGG and CG creators.

Frankly, I suspect a lot of the furor about being shadowbanned on Indiegogo as a scapegoat for for other more pressing issues, like what @Absurdity notes as Comicsgate's increasing insularity and irrelevance, wallowing in an endless sea of indulgent hangout streams and cultivation of parasocial relationships in the face of growing competition.

According to the spreadsheet I posted before IndieGogo (very conspicuously) purged the sailthru metatags used to retrieve the information, Vestige #3 by Warcampaign was actively promoted by IGG's algorithm over 98% of CG comics. For some reason though, this hasn't translated into sales. I suspect the reason for this is the obvious one - most customers are being directed to these campaigns from third-party sites like social media and Youtube. In other words, the entire justification behind the Comicsgate dogma of "you gotta build your own platform" in the first place.

But if what they've been saying for the past 5 years is actually so (and I believe that it is), and the entire CG crowdfunding business model truly does rely on self-marketing on other sites and mailing lists over the front page of IGG's website to promote your campaign, then it follows that being shadowbanned by an insignificant source of customers like IGG's front page should have an negligible impact on their bottom line, no?

If so, then it may be that the selling ability of Frog's platform (where Malin, Davis and Baron all launched on to diminished returns over the past month) may be what's going into decline. Why this would be isn't exactly clear; the quality of Frog's livestreams haven't noticeably declined from last year or three months ago (in my opinion anyway). Lateness with All Caps own crowdfunds isn't really a new thing either so I can't imagine that being the cause of an across-the-board diminishment of sales for the CG Kings crew.

The only significant change lately is Raz0rfist's declaration of the "Iron Age of Comics" and the creation of a parallel anti-SJW youtube comic "movement" pushed by an array of youtubers that before could be described as "CG adjacent", that may well have neatly cut off Comicsgate from the "disaffected from pop culture > supporting industry alternatives" pipeline. And before this is framed as some sort of attempt to foment some sort of division; it's not. It's simply pointing out that the usual source of replenishment of new disafffected comics fans to replace those leaving Comicsgate over the years, the "churn", may be drying up without people noticing or without a course of action. We'll just have to wait and see.
 
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I was just answering a question as factually as possible Jon. No need to take it so personally. Of course if I'm wrong, I'm sure MechaRandom42's nudes will be all over the internet any time now.



Frankly, I suspect a lot of the furor about being shadowbanned on Indiegogo as a scapegoat for for other more pressing issues, like what @Absurdity notes as Comicsgate's increasing insularity and irrelevance, wallowing in an endless sea of indulgent hangout streams and cultivation of parasocial relationships in the face of growing competition.

According to the spreadsheet I posted before IndieGogo (very conspicuously) purged the sailthru metatags used to retrieve the information, Vestige #3 by Warcampaign was actively promoted by IGG's algorithm over 98% of CG comics. For some reason though, this hasn't translated into sales. I suspect the reason for this is the obvious one - most customers are being directed to these campaigns from third-party sites like social media and Youtube. In other words, the entire justification behind the Comicsgate dogma of "you gotta build your own platform" in the first place.

But if what they've been saying for the past 5 years is actually so (and I believe that it is), and the entire CG crowdfunding business model truly does rely on self-marketing on other sites and mailing lists over the front page of IGG's website to promote your campaign, then it follows that being shadowbanned by an insignificant source of customers like IGG's front page should have an negligible impact on their bottom line, no?

If so, then it may be that the selling ability of Frog's platform (where Malin, Davis and Baron all launched on to diminished returns over the past month) may be what's going into decline. Why this would be isn't exactly clear; the quality of Frog's livestreams haven't noticeably declined from last year or three months ago (in my opinion anyway). Lateness with All Caps own crowdfunds isn't really a new thing either so I can't imagine that being the cause of an across-the-board diminishment of sales for the CG Kings crew.

The only significant change lately is Raz0rfist's declaration of the "Iron Age of Comics" and the creation of a parallel anti-SJW youtube comic "movement" pushed by an array of youtubers that before could be described as "CG adjacent", that may well have neatly cut off Comicsgate from the "disaffected from pop culture > supporting industry alternatives" pipeline. And before this is framed as some sort of attempt to foment some sort of division; it's not. It's simply pointing out that the usual source of replenishment of new disafffected comics fans to replace those leaving Comicsgate over the years, the "churn", may be drying up without people noticing or without a course of action. We'll just have to wait and see.
I bet that as far as IGG is concerned the only CG whale left is Frog who's going on two (three?) years late on his last big-$$$ campaign without bringing them any more money on new campaigns in the meantime? Putting up with the anti-CG BS is very much a "what have you done for me lately" value proposition for them.
 
I was just answering a question as factually as possible Jon. No need to take it so personally. Of course if I'm wrong, I'm sure MechaRandom42's nudes will be all over the internet any time now.
Frankly, I suspect a lot of the furor about being shadowbanned on Indiegogo as a scapegoat for for other more pressing issues, like what @Absurdity notes as Comicsgate's increasing insularity and irrelevance, wallowing in an endless sea of indulgent hangout streams and cultivation of parasocial relationships in the face of growing competition.

Is this a microcosm of comics irrelevance or of their shift from genuine culture war to grift?

According to the spreadsheet I posted before IndieGogo (very conspicuously) purged the sailthru metatags used to retrieve the information, Vestige #3 by Warcampaign was actively promoted by IGG's algorithm over 98% of CG comics. For some reason though, this hasn't translated into sales. I suspect the reason for this is the obvious one - most customers are being directed to these campaigns from third-party sites like social media and Youtube. In other words, the entire justification behind the Comicsgate dogma of "you gotta build your own platform" in the first place.

But if what they've been saying for the past 5 years is actually so (and I believe that it is), and the entire CG crowdfunding business model truly does rely on self-marketing on other sites and mailing lists over the front page of IGG's website to promote your campaign, then it follows that being shadowbanned by an insignificant source of customers like IGG's front page should have an negligible impact on their bottom line, no?

If so, then it may be that the selling ability of Frog's platform (where Malin, Davis and Baron all launched on to diminished returns over the past month) may be what's going into decline. Why this would be isn't exactly clear; the quality of Frog's livestreams haven't noticeably declined from last year or three months ago (in my opinion anyway).

Late effect spurred by alternatives and apathy induced fatigue?

Lateness with All Caps own crowdfunds isn't really a new thing either so I can't imagine that being the cause of an across-the-board diminishment of sales for the CG Kings crew.

The only significant change lately is Raz0rfist's declaration of the "Iron Age of Comics" and the creation of a parallel anti-SJW youtube comic "movement" pushed by an array of youtubers that before could be described as "CG adjacent", that may well have neatly cut off Comicsgate from the "disaffected from pop culture > supporting industry alternatives" pipeline. And before this is framed as some sort of attempt to foment some sort of division; it's not. It's simply pointing out that the usual source of replenishment of new disafffected comics fans to replace those leaving Comicsgate over the years, the "churn", may be drying up without people noticing or without a course of action. We'll just have to wait and see.

I do wonder how the 'adjacents' will manage with others.

I bet that as far as IGG is concerned the only CG whale left is Frog who's going on two (three?) years late on his last big-$$$ campaign without bringing them any more money on new campaigns in the meantime? Putting up with the anti-CG BS is very much a "what have you done for me lately" value proposition for them.

Anti-CG? I don't even know if people are genuinely anti-cg. More like they hate individual-x for being a cunt on the internet.

Jon cries about Frog's Alog? What does that boil down to? A karen got harassed by Frog's idiot groupies and has held a grudge for four years?
 
I do wonder how the 'adjacents' will manage with others.
So far the definition of "the Iron Age of Comics", as articulated by its leading proponent, "A Drink with Crazy" is that it is a sort of cultural supramovement, within it containing other online groups throwing their hat in the ring of the 'thriving' western comic book industry, like Razorfist's following, the Rippaverse, the Friday Nights Tights people the Shadiversity community, something called "the Epicverse" and Comicsgate, all enveloped within it (in that order) and providing a primarily comic-based alternative to those who can stand the plague of woke no longer.

Unlike CG, which had a lot of talk of concepts like collective uplifting and removal of barriers between fan and creator in the beginning, the Iron Age Lords like Rippa and Razorfist want to preemptively make it crystal clear to fuckin' everyone that they are in no way obliged to any other would be aligned culture warrior and, unless they have something to offer in a purely transactional relationship, it is upon anyone who takes up the sword to make their way from the wreckage that is woke mainstream pop culture, like the true rugged individualist warriors tempered by fire they claimed to be when they assume the mantle of Iron Age.

In lieu of ideals like communal welfare, a sense of praxis or a unified front, these disparate communities are bound together under one uniting ethos - to conspicuously consume the stuff made by the youtubers - which will then own the global media corporations... somehow.

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Now admittedly a lot of the details haven't been ironed out yet on how exactly the owning will play out, true, but overall I find it all very reminiscent of early CG, which warms these old bones of mine.
 
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So far the definition of "the Iron Age of Comics", as articulated by its leading proponent, "A Drink with Crazy" is that it is a sort of cultural supramovement, within it containing other online groups throwing their hat in the ring of the thriving western comic book industry, like Razorfist's following, the Rippaverse, the Friday Nights Tights people the Shadiversity community, something called "the Epicverse" and Comicsgate, all enveloped within it (in that order) and providing a primarily comic-based alternative to those who can stand the plague of woke no longer.

Unlike CG, which had a lot of talk of concepts like collective uplifting and removal of barriers between fan and creator in the beginning, the Iron Age Lords like Rippa and Razorfist want to preemptively make it crystal clear to fuckin' everyone that they are in no way obliged to any other would be aligned culture warrior and, unless they have something to offer in a purely transactional relationship, it is upon anyone who takes up the sword to make their way from the wreckage that is woke mainstream pop culture, like the true rugged individualist warriors tempered by fire they claimed to be when they assume the mantle of Iron Age.

In lieu of ideals like communal welfare, a sense of praxis or a unified front, these disparate communities are bound together under one uniting ethos - to conspicuously consume the stuff made by the youtubers - which will then own the global media corporations... somehow.

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Now admittedly a lot of the details haven't been ironed out yet on how exactly the owning will play out, true, but overall I find it all very reminiscent of early CG, which warms these old bones of mine.

We'll see what happens. Rippa doesn't seem like the type to recruit a truly exceptional group ala WC and Razorfist is a loud, screaming guy on the internet.

What comes from this new exceptionalism is imminently preferable to CG's tired swamp creatures.
 
Yes. Mike did a full adaptation from script to completion and is the project manager. He is getting a percentage of the cut. He's crushing it and hustling hard.


So Shad Brooks is only lending his name and original book? It's just that I never knew SotC to be so popular as to make over 500k in crowdfunding, in light of Mike's appeal or charisma being virtually zero. AFAIK this makes it by far Mller's most successful campaign, surpassing Richard Meyer, Jon Malin and Tim Lim's best efforts to date.
 
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So Shad Brooks is only lending his name and original book? It's just that I never knew SotC to be so popular as to make over 500k in crowdfunding, in light of Mike's appeal or charisma being virtually zero. AFAIK this makes it by far Mller's most successful campaign, surpassing Richard Meyer, Jon Malin and Tim Lim's best efforts to date.

Shad's a very successful streamer who has a larger audience built off his channel talking about things like medieval weaponry. He's a Mormon and frequent Fandom Menacer with his closest circle being EFAP. Shad's channel, despite being a mormon, is actually okay. He's the anti-Mike Miller in that respect.

He actually has a decent chunk of libs in his audience. Also, if you look at his channel, he's done a fair bit of promotion.

This isn't Mike's first big get, he's also adapted George Martin's Hedge Knight. This is Miller's wheelhouse and honestly where he belongs. Squirreled away scribbling someone else's ideas. Plenty of artists, who have genuine talent, are in trouble and comics where they are because artists got out from behind their boards and opened their mouths.

Not everybody is Jim Steranko.
 


Smike has come a long way in the past two years since Daym Drops.

We'll see what happens. Rippa doesn't seem like the type to recruit a truly exceptional group ala WC and Razorfist is a loud, screaming guy on the internet.

What comes from this new exceptionalism is imminently preferable to CG's tired swamp creatures.

Oh the Rippaverse scene has it's own prospects of surprising potential pulled up from the intersection of comic fans and Texas lolbergs , like Jake Lloyd, Preston Poulter and Vito Gesuldi.

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Is Mecha a lesbian? She is obessed with Brie Larson and now this...? Very suspicious.
Mecha says she is the B in LGBT and has talked about having her face buried in the crotch of other women.
She appears to be in a long-term relationship with former Midnight's Edge "personality", alleged writer/actor/musician/"standup comedian", and enthusiastic feeder Robb aka RobotShlomo. Mr. Shlomo departed Midnight's Edge after the MechaRandom42/Merry Meltdown drama ensnared his partner, the spacetime-bending mass of negative-charisma known as Tom "I must take credit for every good take ever" Connors. Tom going full Moby Dick made Robb's position untenable both at M.E. and inside MechaRandom simultaneously, thus the elderly George Costanza of genre entertainment commentary was faced with a decision: a prospering YouTube career or a riding crop across the buttocks from a fat girl 20 years his junior. Robb made the obvious choice. In my book, the day Robb played Daniel to Mecha's Kumiko and chose to fight for her honor, as Peter Cetera taught us, was the day love won over the forces of cynical grifting.



From the twisted mind of Todd Solondz, director of such nihilistic films as Welcome to the Dollhouse, Happiness, and Wiener-Dog comes his next misanthropic masterpiece: A nebbishy Jewish man takes his fat shiksa to Arby's to debate the relative merits of fast food chicken sandwiches while Belinda Carlisle's smash hit 1987 single Heaven Is a Place On Earth crystalizes yet another deep dive into the "dark underbelly of middle class American suburbia".
 
If so, then it may be that the selling ability of Frog's platform (where Malin, Davis and Baron all launched on to diminished returns over the past month) may be what's going into decline. Why this would be isn't exactly clear; the quality of Frog's livestreams haven't noticeably declined from last year or three months ago (in my opinion anyway). Lateness with All Caps own crowdfunds isn't really a new thing either so I can't imagine that being the cause of an across-the-board diminishment of sales for the CG Kings crew.

The only significant change lately is Raz0rfist's declaration of the "Iron Age of Comics" and the creation of a parallel anti-SJW youtube comic "movement" pushed by an array of youtubers that before could be described as "CG adjacent", that may well have neatly cut off Comicsgate from the "disaffected from pop culture > supporting industry alternatives" pipeline. And before this is framed as some sort of attempt to foment some sort of division; it's not. It's simply pointing out that the usual source of replenishment of new disafffected comics fans to replace those leaving Comicsgate over the years, the "churn", may be drying up without people noticing or without a course of action. We'll just have to wait and see.

Smiller and Shad chewed over this new 'Iron Age' phenomenon last week:


Worth noting that this 5-hour livestream has pulled in 28K views at time of writing, very much surpassing Frog's recent livestreams, of which only one broke 20K views: an e-fapping of the Frog vs Marks Brooks dorkish slapfight on Well Read Comics.


Although personally I found that shitshow much more enjoyable in its original form, without the Froggot's emotional/intellectual support group on standby to verbally rim his gay arse.


But this magnificent original only has a tenth of the viewers! Poor Well Read, it's a hard life down in those CG slums, with these lords just coming down and bumming you for content, whenever they like. Can't be much fun. But good on him for wrangling those slumming, bumming gaylords into a gaily entertaining slapfight,.


Now, to return to this question of Iron Age vitality versus Comicsgate complacency, I would also like to draw everyone's attention to the respective Youtube channel banners of Frog and Shad, with some of my own analysis underneath:

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Here is Frog's - look how shit it is! Looks like absolute shit, fucking Geocities level banner. Fucking crap and shit!

Now look at Shad/Smiller:

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See now THIS is a properly done channel banner. Well-placed popout text, sitting right next to the clearly-labeled IGG link, and then next to that he has links to Twitter, Utreon, SubscribeStar and Patreon, with popup text indicating that Utreon is preferred.

So even though Frog's channel has around 25K more subs, the winner of the channel banner fight here is clearly SHAD, by multiple-limb dismemberment and then decapitation! Frog has been absolutely sausaged here, he's been made into sausage and fed to zoo animals.

Brutal! It's a brutal sight, of a terrible massacre, this banner analysis.

But I know what the CGers are thinking right now, they're thinking the same as Literature Devil - how do I get away from Frog, and into Knights Watch, without Frog having a tantrum and crying and lashing out at me?

Well you fat stupid CG betas, the rules are very simple. There is an audition process to be hired for this hosting position on Knights Watch. LET ME PUT IT IN ALL CAPS SO YOU UNDERSTAND.
There is an audition process to be hired for this position. TO APPLY YOU MUST FILM A SAMPLE VIDEO OF YOURSELF REVIEWING AND CRITIQUING STAR WARS EPISODE 8, THE LAST JEDI, AS AN AUDITION VIDEO. Please attach a link to your video in your cover letter.
I hope that's VERY clear. Some more guidance from Shad:
Presence on Camera and critiquing ability is what we are looking for, don't worry too much about video quality.
You will need to be confident and present well on camera and in discussing and critiquing movies, TV shows and other pop culture.
Experience in editing and camera work is preferred. Would suit an actor, public speaker, film graduate, or someone who has dabbled with YouTube performance. You will be working in a multipurpose position and may be required to assist in various jobs such as setting up and taking down sets. This job would suit a team player.
Apply Now, CG slumdogs!
https://utreon.com/v/HUwd9ZM3Ra2
(But DON'T let Frog find out, for he will surely throw himself into a pillow, wailing and sobbing like a WOMAN if he finds out)

Now I'm sure many kiwis are thinking the same as me: why would you have a TLJ review, when literally even people as dumb as Jeremy from Geeks & Gamers could see that TLJ was bad? Why not have a TFA review, since only clever people saw that TFA was shit, and dumb people thought not only that TFA was good, but that the whole trilogy was going to be good, instead of complete shit as it turned out to be?

I mean look, I'm not going to spin around in my swivel chair, flipping off the world in 360 degrees while profanely screaming about how I was right, as Razorfist famously did in his TLJ review.

I'm just saying, us real men had quite a different perspective on TLJ and the many crying YT reviews, example here:

 
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