Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[TheDarknessGrows]

I can't wait for Russia to be in a museum. King Tut!

 

[Fcret]

I wanted to come back to this thread, find someone still posting about how Russia can win this, and make good on my promise to move us to COPECON 1

But no, everyone is just acting rational and shit. Oh well, I'm dropping this thread down to COPECON 4

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

This isn't guys being gay in the military, that's existed since basically the beginning of civilization and in some cases was actually used effectively, for example by Thebes with their Sacred Band. This is brutal, pointless hazing involving anal rape and other forms of humiliating violence and exploitation that have caused many deaths due to suicide and retaliation.

This doesn't happen in other countries, period.

That being said it would have been cool to live in Thebes back then, joining an elite unit of gay men to kick Sparta's shit in.

Even fucking Russia knows and publicly admits it's a massive problem, which is actually kinda impressive considering how they treat everything else related to their military, at least publicly.

For example, in 2019 one guy snapped from the physical abuse he was getting, shot and killed 8 soldiers and wounded another 2, and he only got a little less than 25 years for it.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

So Ukraine gains Kherson?

 

[Prosphora]

What's even funnier is that all this whining about "muh lgbt degeneracy" is the fact that shit would still be fucked even if acceptance of the LGBT community hadn't happened.

It's just a scapegoat at this point. Trannies suck, but I'd rather deal with them than tradfags thirsting for a shariah law monarchy that would undoubtedly be far more degenerate, and oppressive than what we have now.

By accepting a lesser evil, you have still accepted evil.

 

[Doctor Professor Timon]

Well, this is an oof.

UPDATED 7:33 AM SUNDAY -- UKRAINE "MILITARY AID" FROM USA --- WAS INVESTED IN CRYPTO "FTX" BY UKRAINE!

The sudden collapse of crypto exchange

halturnerradioshow.com

The sudden collapse of crypto exchange "FTX" and its Bankruptcy filing today, has revealed that FTX presently suffers from $10-$50 BILLION in liabilities with almost ZERO assets . . . and among those liabilities, are "investments" made by . . . . UKRAINE . . . .

At this early hour, it __appears__ that tens-of-billions in American "Military Aid" to Ukraine, which was allegedly to be used to fight Russia, was cash that Ukraine DID NOT use to fight Russia, but instead invested into FTX!

And, as you might guess from the Bankruptcy filing . . . . it now seems that all the money . . . is gone.

Yes, you read that correctly: Instead of using US Military Aid to fight Russia, Ukraine "invested" part or all of it, into FTX, and right now, it looks like all the money is gone.

 

[Fcret]

So Ukraine gains Kherson?

Yeah, probably until the spring when the Russian offensive can continue. They had a chance of being able to hold it with their current force but retaking it is going to require extensive mobilization of men and materiel which is going to be slow during the winter months.

 

[Die Dunkle Maus]

I wanted to come back to this thread, find someone still posting about how Russia can win this, and make good on my promise to move us to COPECON 1

But no, everyone is just acting rational and shit. Oh well, I'm dropping this thread down to COPECON 4

I'm kinda nutty, I think Russia can still pull this off. I was never a '3-day war' believer, though I thought initially they would win by winter.

They made massive mistakes, and will use this winter to re-group and re-supply, with renewed offensive in spring after a thorough house cleaning of corruption in military.

At least, that's what I would do if I was Putin. I certainly wouldn't be like "sorry, I fucked up", that will get you killed.

 

[Beak Thing]

Even fucking Russia knows and publicly admits it's a massive problem, which is actually kinda impressive considering how they treat everything else related to their military, at least publicly.

For example, in 2019 one guy snapped from the physical abuse he was getting, shot and killed 8 soldiers and wounded another 2, and he only got a little less than 25 years for it.

Poor guy, he did the right thing and hopefully sent his abusers to hell where they belong. It's inconceivable to me that you'd ever treat anyone like that, let alone the people under your command. I dealt with an abusive asshole of a boss early in my career but he got his comeuppance, fired as a partner in a CPA firm which is probably the worst disgrace you can achieve in this profession and now he's MIA. Hope he died.

And that's in civilian life, let alone the military. Again, it's inconceivable that I would ever let anyone under my command abuse their fellow soldiers. I bet the Russian conscripts are absolutely terrified when they get their notice knowing the abuse and sexual violence that will follow.

There are deep, disturbing cultural problems in that country from the Soviet era that will need to be eradicated if they want to have a future as a relevant power.

 

[Meth Until Death]

What's even funnier is that all this whining about "muh lgbt degeneracy" is the fact that shit would still be fucked even if acceptance of the LGBT community hadn't happened.

It's just a scapegoat at this point. Trannies suck, but I'd rather deal with them than tradfags thirsting for a shariah law monarchy that would undoubtedly be far more degenerate, and oppressive than what we have now.

>admits to willingly sucking the girlcock
>being this buck broken
Mate, you're usually alright but tradfags being more degenerate and oppressive than trannies? Are you sure about that one? You must be taking the piss

 

[Bunny Tracks]

>admits to willingly sucking the girlcock
>being this buck broken
Mate, you're usually alright but tradfags being more degenerate and oppressive than trannies? Are you sure about that one? You must be taking the piss

Bro, have you seen the kind of shit fundies are into, especially the ones in the Middle East?

I'll gladly take my chances with the troons than the inbred, goatfucking, child sex-slavers of Arabia.

 

[76LD910]

Well, this is an oof.

UPDATED 7:33 AM SUNDAY -- UKRAINE "MILITARY AID" FROM USA --- WAS INVESTED IN CRYPTO "FTX" BY UKRAINE!

The sudden collapse of crypto exchange

halturnerradioshow.com

The sudden collapse of crypto exchange "FTX" and its Bankruptcy filing today, has revealed that FTX presently suffers from $10-$50 BILLION in liabilities with almost ZERO assets . . . and among those liabilities, are "investments" made by . . . . UKRAINE . . . .

At this early hour, it __appears__ that tens-of-billions in American "Military Aid" to Ukraine, which was allegedly to be used to fight Russia, was cash that Ukraine DID NOT use to fight Russia, but instead invested into FTX!

And, as you might guess from the Bankruptcy filing . . . . it now seems that all the money . . . is gone.

Yes, you read that correctly: Instead of using US Military Aid to fight Russia, Ukraine "invested" part or all of it, into FTX, and right now, it looks like all the money is gone.

That's definitely a source I would trust to provide accurate and non-biased information.

How exactly do you invest military aid given in the form of material goods ?

 

[Doctor Professor Timon]

That's definitely a source I would trust to provide accurate and non-biased information.

How exactly do you invest military aid given in the form of material goods ?

U.S. sending $3B in aid for Ukraine as Russia's invasion hits six months

The U.S. has provided roughly $10.6B in military aid to date

www.ny1.com

In a statement, President Biden said the money will go toward weapons and equipment.

"This will allow Ukraine to acquire air defense systems, artillery systems and munitions, counter-unmanned aerial systems, and radars to ensure it can continue to defend itself over the long term," he said.
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I don't know, did you forget about the actual money sent there, too?

Here's a better source that itemizes it.

What Does $40 Billion in Aid to Ukraine Buy?

Congress has approved $40 billion in aid for Ukraine and other countries affected by the conflict―the sixth aid package since the war began. A major change is that this package looks ahead months rather than weeks. The aid package provides $19 billion for immediate military support to Ukraine...

www.csis.org

The aid package provides $19 billion for immediate military support to Ukraine, continuing the effort that has been vital to sustaining Ukrainian resistance, and $3.9 billion to sustain U.S. forces deployed to Europe. **The package also contains about $16 billion for economic support to Ukraine, global humanitarian relief, and a wide variety of international programs as well as $2 billion for long-term support to NATO allies and DOD modernization programs.**

 

[mindlessobserver]

Honestly even I am shocked at this point. I did not expect Russia to give up Kherson so easily. That city was a lynch pin for two reason. It's control over the exit of the Dneiper meant Russia could have used it as a bargaining chip to end the war. But now it's gone. It was, literally, the one thing Russia could safely bargain with in a "I'll give you this if you give me that" treaty.

Worse, Ukraines right flank is now secure. With the destruction of the Antonovsky Bridge the war in Kherson is over. Odessa will never again be a Russian city. Ukraine will never be landlocked. The dream of New Russia is dead.

Now the battle will shift back to the Donbas where despite Russias best efforts they have made no progress.

Which means Ukraine is now free to maneuver. Winter IS coming, and the West has kindly supplied the Ukrainian Army winter kit. I don't think the war is going to slow down now. Ukraine is going to go for the Azov Coast next once the mud freezes. Melitopol and Mariople are back on the menu. Worse, with the capture of Kherson all supply lines to these regions are now in Artillery range.

This war is officially out of control. Nobody can stop it. Worse for Russia, they are out of time. Ukraine now possesses one of the most well equipped and competent armies on the European continent.

That clock I have been harping about since March? It's just struck midnight. Ukraine has a competent Generals staff, veteran units, and a unified combined arms mechanized Army that knows how to fight. Whatever Putin had planned to do back on February 24, is never going to happen.

 

[In the Dollhouse]

I know the west gives Dugin way more importance than he has, and that factually he is politically irrelevant in Russia. But calling for Putin to be ritually sacrificed as "King of the Rain" if he fails seems like going to far to not be windowed.
Anyway here is the letter translation and the source

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1591181876815106048

 

[mindlessobserver]

I know the west gives Dugin way more importance than he has, and that factually he is politically irrelevant in Russia. But calling for Putin to be ritually sacrificed as "King of the Rain" if he fails seems like going to far to not be windowed.
Anyway here is the letter translation and the source

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1591181876815106048

Dugin was always a hairs breadth away from fully schizo. His daughter dying as a consequence of this failing war is probably not helping any.

 

[Meth Until Death]

Bro, have you seen the kind of shit fundies are into, especially the ones in the Middle East?

I'll gladly take my chances with the troons than the inbred, goatfucking, child sex-slavers of Arabia.

You wouldn't be trying to conflate the fundies in the US of gay with Johnny Jihads? That's pretty dishonest.
And troons are animal fuckin, kiddy fuckin, where have you been? Aren't you a lesbo or something?

 

[76LD910]

I don't know, did you forget about the actual money sent there, too?

No I didn't, and I know full well the figures you quoted isn't the sum total of all aid of varying kinds sent or even whats planned to be sent. But that's not what the dipshit you were using as a source said now is it ?

As for his sources he has exactly two. 1: A pixilated screen grab of an article talking about the Ukrainian central bank converting crypto donations to fiat currency, which doesn't track at all with what he's insinuating even if your dumb enough to believe the US government was sending economic aid via crypto. 2: A video of someone reading twitter threads for about ten minutes.

 

[Doctor Professor Timon]

As for his sources he has exactly two. 1: A pixilated screen grab of an article talking about the Ukrainian central bank converting crypto donations to fiat currency, which doesn't track at all with what he's insinuating even if your dumb enough to believe the US government was sending economic aid via crypto. 2: A video of someone reading twitter threads for about ten minutes.

You, uh, did not read that article.

The U.S. sent aid money to Ukraine.

Ukraine allegedly converted the aid money into the FTX exchange.

FTX (the guy running it) then happened to be the second largest donator to the Democratic Party during that time frame.

The Twitter Threads were pointing out the liabilities and such and who it was owed to during FTX's bankruptcy. A large portion - Ukraine had invested in FTX.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Can you utterly braindead sex obsessed faggots go take your thirst for girlcock and terror of your nearby bible club and fuck off into your own self mastabatory thread? I just waded through like four pages of troon rants to read about a fucking war.

Piss off.

unlike russia today, germany back then actually was fighting a three front war against multiple major world powers, while also being heavily outnumbered and outgunned by the soviets and crippled by critical resource shortages
with russia now it's the opposite. they're fighting a single enemy on a single front, while also having gigantic numerical advantages in all possible metrics (active duty troops, reserve troops, draft eligible population, materiel in active use, materiel in storage, industrial capacity, etc)

russia failing to take ukraine today is like if germany had failed to take poland in 39

Except the Germans were successful at it because of Blitzkrieg, combined arms and in many cases having better officers and generals than the other side that weren't complete doddering farts. (rot in hell General Percival)

Russia has somehow seemingly UNLEARNT combined arms fighting which they knew all the way back in Afghanistan in favour of the attempted rapid force movements which worked so well in places like Georgia and Checnya. Which is fine when Georgia has like, 8 tanks and they're somewhere else, or everyone's busy fucking about with C4 blocks and rusty AK's as in Chechnya. This is the equivalent of 1939 Germany suddenly coming up against 1944 British or American Forces who've already reincorporated the tactics the Germans were going to use on them.

Sort of like the Afghan army that was chock full of ghost soldiers so the officers could steal via the payroll. How many deliveries of tanks or APCs were completely fictitious? Does Russia even know how much equipment its forces actually have or its condition?

No sane person on Earth would start a war this completely unprepared and unaware of your actual capabilities. This is almost absurd.

Probably not as many as we think, we know a lot of this kit is soviet era stuff that got chucked into a warehouse in the 70s or 80s and up to 1991 people were probably still shuffling in once a year to make sure the long term storage of those vehicles and equipment was fine. After the chaos of the 90s we know a ton of that shit went missing, and when things settled some stocks were depleted but not wiped out.

The problem, as we actually saw and know, is that a lot of the maintenance staff would be chopped, meaning those vehicles and weapons would just begin to slowly rot. While on paper everything was still fine (and likely a bunch of ghost maintenance crew appeared under Putin's reforms) we know that those vehicles and kits began to slowly begin to rust away, and a bunch of the weaponry likely wound up in the hands of the Bratva.

Or China deciding Russia is weak enough to make a grab for territory and ending up in a 2-way nuclear exchange that evaporates most of the world's microchip and consumer-goods supply in a matter of hours.

China decided that a while ago, which is why they've been slowly annexing Siberia while paying lip service to whatever Russian civil servant gets out there. There's god knows how many illegal cities cropping up and massive logging and mining going on and Russia just sort of shrugs at it happening.

There's something weird about a nation invading in the West while being invaded slowly in the East.

Honestly even I am shocked at this point. I did not expect Russia to give up Kherson so easily. That city was a lynch pin for two reason. It's control over the exit of the Dneiper meant Russia could have used it as a bargaining chip to end the war. But now it's gone. It was, literally, the one thing Russia could safely bargain with in a "I'll give you this if you give me that" treaty.

Worse, Ukraines right flank is now secure. With the destruction of the Antonovsky Bridge the war in Kherson is over. Odessa will never again be a Russian city. Ukraine will never be landlocked. The dream of New Russia is dead.

Now the battle will shift back to the Donbas where despite Russias best efforts they have made no progress.

Which means Ukraine is now free to maneuver. Winter IS coming, and the West has kindly supplied the Ukrainian Army winter kit. I don't think the war is going to slow down now. Ukraine is going to go for the Azov Coast next once the mud freezes. Melitopol and Mariople are back on the menu. Worse, with the capture of Kherson all supply lines to these regions are now in Artillery range.

This war is officially out of control. Nobody can stop it. Worse for Russia, they are out of time. Ukraine now possesses one of the most well equipped and competent armies on the European continent.

That clock I have been harping about since March? It's just struck midnight. Ukraine has a competent Generals staff, veteran units, and a unified combined arms mechanized Army that knows how to fight. Whatever Putin had planned to do back on February 24, is never going to happen.

Strategically it makes the most sense, and the General in charge of that area saw the writing on the wall, and a kilometer wide river is a far far better barrier to stop a Ukranian breakthrough than becoming the Russian equivalent of Paulus futily fighting for a city that gets steadily flattened while getting constant misives from the Kremlin about how important it is.

The question is, what will the Ukranians do? Will they try and tie down as many Russian units as possible near the River on the basis they might try and make a river crossing, or will they instead push and try and cut off a large russian pocket by trying to regain Meliotpol?

We know the war won't die down like it normally does in Eastern Europe when Winter arrives, the Ukranians have lovely, unused western winter kit ready to be issued, and from what we can tell, this year will be a relatively mild winter for much of Europe, Ukraine included.