US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Tanuki Mixed Nuts]

Then how do Democrats have a stranglehold on California?

"sane person"

It was in his post.

 

[LurkTrawl]

I take it you're pleased that the DNC will be left holding the bag on the timebomb that is Our Democracy and The Economy?

Because it looks like they will.

Well, yeah. Also happy with what happened in TX and FL.

I think of it like the 2020 election. With 20/20 hindsight it was in fact a good thing Trump was cheated out if it. I'm thinking along those lines with regards to what's happening right now.

Obviously, I'd rather we didn't have any fraud in our elections, but if I had to pick an election to be stolen in history, I'd leave that one as-is.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Ron De Santis feels like a plant to me. He's full of talk and no real action. Something is off and extremely suspicious.

My big thing was just how much the media covered him for saying/doing shit that other politicians were also doing. It isn't like he's the *only* politician to push back against vaccine mandates and CRT.

He might just be a useful tool they are using to sow division, of course, but I just get this feeling he's going to turn out to be an Obama who defaults to the norm the second he has nowhere else to go.

 

[Die Dunkle Maus]

Ron De Santis feels like a plant to me. He's full of talk and no real action. Something is off and extremely suspicious.

You think I'm in the CIA, too, yeah?

Do you ever think to yourself "Why am I so retarded?"

NO

 

[heathercho]

My big thing was just how much the media covered him for saying/doing shit that other politicians were also doing. It isn't like he's the *only* politician to push back against vaccine mandates and CRT.

He might just be a useful tool they are using to sow division, of course, but I just get this feeling he's going to turn out to be an Obama who defaults to the norm the second he has nowhere else to go.

The way they have pushed him is incredible, especially within the MAGA base. It's causing a lot of division.

The telling thing is how Trump was treated and how DeSantis is being treated. Fox was never overly Pro -Trump. Not like you would have thought. They're all over DeSantis.
De Santis will absolutely not Make America Great Again, he's a Republican. He will absolutely toe the party line. He's not a renegade. With him, you'll get more of the same. I actually think they'll run him and it will be all hyped up and then he'll gracefully lose.

His elevation to Republican overlord is a bit too much like they're trying to get Republicans back on track with Trump Lite so that they can lose the MAGA anger and go back to gracefully losing.
Something about MAGA was really troubling to the lizard people in D.C., they didn't seem to like the power it gave back to the people.

You think I'm in the CIA, too, yeah?

Do you ever think to yourself "Why am I so retarded?"

NO

They don't let Mice in the CIA. Just rats.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

The telling thing is how Trump was treated and how DeSantis is being treated. Fox was never overly Pro -Trump. Not like you would have thought. They're all over DeSantis.
De Santis will absolutely not Make America Great Again, he's a Republican. He will absolutely toe the party line. He's not a renegade. With him, you'll get more of the same. I actually think they'll run him and it will be all hyped up and then he'll gracefully lose.

His elevation to Republican overlord is a bit too much like they're trying to get Republicans back on track with Trump Lite so that they can lose the MAGA anger and go back to gracefully losing.
Something about MAGA was really troubling to the lizard people in D.C., they didn't seem to like the power it gave back to the people.

Agreed on all accounts. And I think it's working. The amount of people that I used to see who were hardcore for Trump suddenly talking about how great Desantis is because "He can ACT the part" just makes me shake my fucking head.

This country deserves their gilded cage (as if we can even call it that anymore)

 

[Die Dunkle Maus]

They don't let Mice in the CIA. Just rats.

Who do you think is signing my checks for posting at KF?

 

[Oxous]

De Santis will absolutely not Make America Great Again, he's a Republican. He will absolutely toe the party line. He's not a renegade. With him, you'll get more of the same. I actually think they'll run him and it will be all hyped up and then he'll gracefully lose.

Sounds a lot like Trump's presidency.

 

[Coptakhenaten]

I believe People (who aren't implanted shills/grifters, they'll abandon DeSantis the second it doesn't give them clout) are latching onto DeSantis because Trump, despite being the main figureheadfor right wing populism today, eventually will need an heir. People think DeSantis is the one who will carry MAGA. And they think he would do better than Trump due to Trump's biggest flaw. In spite of all the MSM propaganda's claims, Trump isn't some sociopathic Machiavellian politician. He isn't a cutthroat, bloodthirsty, assassin, and that is a bad thing. The bad thing about him is that he isn't any of those things. Instead he is a "normal" person inflated in ego and with a decaying sense of judgement. Obama and Biden didn't choose fuckwits like Milley, Trump did. Trump didn't have to choose Pence, but he did. Trump could have chosen way more staunch and principled people than Kavanaugh/Barret but he thought they were good. People see these failings and think the more cutthroat actions of DeSantis makes him more capable of fulfilling MAGA agenda. I am talking about what I think for normal people here, they're just desperately looking for someone like Trump who is more willing to get his hands dirty. I don't blame them for latching onto DeSantis when the pool of successors is so small.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Ron De Santis feels like a plant to me. He's full of talk and no real action. Something is off and extremely suspicious.

DeSantis is just a slightly spicier version of Jeb Bush. He’s being shoehorned in as the guy that’s going to bridge the establishment and populist set together because he occasionally holds the left accountable. That’s how low the bar is these days. It’s more a condemnation of the state of Republican politics than anything else. I think people are wise to temper their expectations of him if he ever gets nominated President. I don’t dislike him, I just think people need to be aware that others are building up wildly unrealistic expectations. This is the place that thought Trump was going to get over 400 electoral votes because we got to see Hunter Biden’s penis. Expectations can get very unrealistic here.

 

[heathercho]

Who do you think is signing my checks for posting at KF?

The FBI. They're mice, not men.

Agreed on all accounts. And I think it's working. The amount of people that I used to see who were hardcore for Trump suddenly talking about how great Desantis is because "He can ACT the part" just makes me shake my fucking head.

This country deserves their gilded cage (as if we can even call it that anymore)

Biden will have sold the gilding for Ukraine bux.

Patriots.win has a lot of posts cropping up about De Santis. It gets heated.
Some say they don't want Trump because he backed vaccines. They think Ron wouldn't have coz he's "based".

But frankly, a lot of the MAGA base think that whilst 2020 was stolen, they could just vote-watch their way through midterms. They're high on their own copium supply over there.

Trump's not perfect, but he exposed the machine. He has zero chances of being re-elected. They'll just cheat even more than 2020. They'll never let him near the Whitehouse again.

They know now, for sure, that Republicans won't do jackshit about the cheating.

 

[Die Dunkle Maus]

DeSantis is just a slightly spicier version of Jeb Bush.

Okay, come on. That's just low!

As an Independent, I would 100% vote for DeSantis over Biden, he's leagues above "Please clap"

The FBI. They're mice, not men.

You big goofball, KF is not in the USA, I'm obviously getting paid by CIA.

ASIDE: If any government or private agency wishes to employ me, I'm free for two swing or graveyard shifts per week. Characters available include "Fundy", "Trumpo", and "Schizo", and my very popular "Fundy Trumpo Schizo" package.

 

[Cubanodun]

Wow this is probably the first time this board hasn't cheered me up with all the dooming going around.

You get used to after the first 10 years or so of rigged elections, you americans get "losing with grace" we get our presidential candidate telling people to not get angry about the steal and go have a party in their houses

Im not joking we got one that literally scammed a entire nation and fucked off to europe when everyone wanted to kill him

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

The FBI. They're mice, not men.

Biden will have sold the gilding for Ukraine bux.

Patriots.win has a lot of posts cropping up about De Santis. It gets heated.
Some say they don't want Trump because he backed vaccines. They think Ron wouldn't have coz he's "based".

But frankly, a lot of the MAGA base think that whilst 2020 was stolen, they could just vote-watch their way through midterms. They're high on their own copium supply over there.

Trump's not perfect, but he exposed the machine. He has zero chances of being re-elected. They'll just cheat even more than 2020. They'll never let him near the Whitehouse again.

They know now, for sure, that Republicans won't do jackshit about the cheating.

Republicans just half ass everything. They don’t organize, they don’t poll watch, they don’t ballot harvest, they don’t aim to drive up turnout if conservative whites. In fact, they hate all of that, preferring to devise more ways to cut Israel checks. They’re not even fighting back on cheating despite three election cycles of shenanigans. They’re not a party designed to win and if they do, they seemingly do whatever they can to cede power to Democrats. They treat leadership like an inconvenience and that’s why they’re in the situation they’re in today. The sooner the GOP crashes and burns, the better.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

I gotta tell you guys, Democrats have pretty much mastered the art of politicking. It's actually pretty impressive to me.

Take student loan forgiveness, for example. Biden co-sponsored the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005, making student loans non-bankruptable. Based on this and his earlier election comments, he had no intention of forgiving student loans at a sizable magnitude. It's unconstitutional and is a breach of his authority. He knows it, his colleagues know if after trying to get something like it passed over and over again, Pelosi said so the year prior. He also knows that not only will Republicans be against it, but a ton of Democrats would be against it too if it came down to it in Congress. Of course, that doesn't matter to many, too many if you ask me, voters; they just want the loans forgiven.

So, here the $10,000 loan forgiveness plan is laid out, midterms happen, then a Texas judge appointed by Trump strikes it and deems it unconstitutional, which, duh, it is. Then, Biden and the Democrats pin why it doesn't happen on Republicans.

And it's fucking genius. From abortion to policing, these actions have only helped Democrats get power.

And the best part is that all they have to do is dangle the carrot and then snatch it away. A good 50% relies on voters being retarded, and 25% relies on the incompetence of the Republican and Libertarian parties. Despite all the criticisms towards Dems, people lean to them because Reps "are mean" from all the talks I had with voters. Simple as that.

So, not only do Democrats not have to spend taxpayer money appealing to young dumb voters, they end up getting the vote of young dumb voters, and everything gets blamed on the Republicans.

And really, how can you fight that without culture? There really is no other means to fight that.

 

[Vic Smackey]

Easy - if the higher turnout is all in already red congressional districts, they can win the popular vote and still lose the House. Similar to how Democrats can win the popular vote due to California and NY but still lose the Presidency due to other states' electoral votes.

I've taken a casual glance through the mid term results since the WWII and not once has the party who won more votes for the house not taken the majority. When you go back beyond WWII it looks like the Repubs were at a permanent disadvantage and there were results where Reps won the popular vote but lost the house. It also looks like the Democrat south vs the Republican north.

United States midterm election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1942_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections (closest one I could find to the 2022 one)

So either we are going back to pre WWII inbalance (which was because something was up) or we somethings fucked up about this particular election. I don't buy this election wasn't heavily "fortified".

 

[Polyboros2]

I just want to say that all my dooming was completely accurate, not enough was done in response to the steal, and too many Republicans that helped with it were left in power.

Look forward to the Republicans spending the next two years completely tearing the party in two so that Trump/populists won't have the support to win overcome fortification. Even if Republican Governor's get in Nevada and Arizona, the local legislature and judiciary will prevent any break up of fortification until after 2024.

Even if Wisconsin has been shored up, this proves Georgia, Pennsylvania, And Michigan are off the board. Even if Lake pulls off a miracle cleaning up Maricopa, AZ and WI aren't enough.

The Republican party is too broken, the rot too high up, hard work is needed to clean up things for a possibility of a R win in 2024, and there isn't enough time with the resistance from both sides.

 

[Random Internet Person]

TRUMP IS THE GOP ESTABLISHMENT’S STONE AROUND THEIR NECKS AND IT’S A GOOD THING​

Now that the midterms are over, the establishment media were handed their talking points—and those points are designed to take down President Trump. The concerted, sustained, and vicious attacks on Trump are not confined only to mainstream media outlets such as Fox News. Many independent ‘influencers’ and bloggers have now changed their minds about Trump. Several columnists I read regularly have stated it’s time to ‘move on’ and that Trump is no longer a viable competitor for the presidency in 2024. Suddenly they all seem to be renouncing and attacking Trump!

It’s quite a coincidence.

The Democrats have never let up on their attacks, of course. Their anti-Trump rhetoric and lies have been relentless since 2015. Now the attacks are even less civil. Bill Maher’s latest and completely unfunny monologue was about Trump being impotent. Real class, Bill.

I am sticking with Trump. His message is as fresh as it was in 2015.

He wants to make America great again, but he was unable to follow through because the 2020 election was stolen from him. Yes, I deny that election. Democrat operatives used 3rd-world nation style election fraud. The voting machines, the massive mail-in ballots, the ballot harvesting and drop boxes, and the the fact that Trump was drawing tens of thousands at rallies while unpopular Joe hid in his basement points to fraud. The long delays in the counting process enabled the Democrats to double-count votes for ‘D,’ while also allowing the delivery of ballots on pallets to put Biden ahead.


I was disappointed that the so-called ‘red wave’ wasn’t more widespread. It wasn’t due to voters being hypnotized by Joe’s admonitions about ‘our democracy’ and general fear-mongering. It was partly due to continued cheating by Democrats, who control the swing state vote counting. Massive mail-in ballots were combined with massive counting delays. Florida was able to count their votes in a few hours, whereas in many contested states it has taken days—maybe even weeks—to count them. Such long delays are a sure indication of fraud in progress. Instead of investigating the fraud, so-called journalists would rather blame Trump. Trump is being demonized. Everything is now Trump’s fault and many of his former supporters are now in full backstabber mode.


I’ve criticized Trump myself. He pushed a dangerous and rushed-out so-called vaccine that was neither safe nor effective. He should have fired Fauci. Trump is a flawed human being like the rest of us, but his intentions toward America are not flawed.

He’s a nationalist who wants America first, not globalist tyranny first.

The GOP establishment did their best to get BIDEN elected because they thought Joe was a moderate and fellow swamp dweller that they could work with. They essentially killed Trump’s chances by not standing up against obvious election fraud.

That killing brought them terrible bad luck and so they have the Trumpatross around their neck now. They RINOs/Uniparty/GOPe needs to go down and Trump is the one who can get that done.

Trump needs another chance to help drain that swamp.

— Ben Garrison

Republicans just half ass everything. They don’t organize, they don’t poll watch, they don’t ballot harvest, they don’t aim to drive up turnout if conservative whites. In fact, they hate all of that, preferring to devise more ways to cut Israel checks. They’re not even fighting back on cheating despite three election cycles of shenanigans. They’re not a party designed to win and if they do, they seemingly do whatever they can to cede power to Democrats. They treat leadership like an inconvenience and that’s why they’re in the situation they’re in today. The sooner the GOP crashes and burns, the better.

Isn't all that what Trump was aiming to change?

I just want to say that all my dooming was completely accurate, not enough was done in response to the steal, and too many Republicans that helped with it were left in power.

Look forward to the Republicans spending the next two years completely tearing the party in two so that Trump/populists won't have the support to win overcome fortification. Even if Republican Governor's get in Nevada and Arizona, the local legislature and judiciary will prevent any break up of fortification until after 2024.

Even if Wisconsin has been shored up, this proves Georgia, Pennsylvania, And Michigan are off the board. Even if Lake pulls off a miracle cleaning up Maricopa, AZ and WI aren't enough.

The Republican party is too broken, the rot too high up, hard work is needed to clean up things for a possibility of a R win in 2024, and there isn't enough time with the resistance from both sides.

Kari Lake might REALLY have her work cut out for her. There's always the chance making that many enemies and calling out that many people will come back to bite her in the ass.

 

[Die Dunkle Maus]

I just want to say that all my dooming was completely accurate, not enough was done in response to the steal, and too many Republicans that helped with it were left in power.

Yeah, you can't stop something you can't find. You have Republicans at every step of the process, observing. Yet... nothing.



How could this be?

Only one explanation... MAGIC. Democrats are wizards!

 

[ShitLurker]

I believe People (who aren't implanted shills/grifters, they'll abandon DeSantis the second it doesn't give them clout) are latching onto DeSantis because Trump, despite being the main figureheadfor right wing populism today, eventually will need an heir. People think DeSantis is the one who will carry MAGA. And they think he would do better than Trump due to Trump's biggest flaw. In spite of all the MSM propaganda's claims, Trump isn't some sociopathic Machiavellian politician. He isn't a cutthroat, bloodthirsty, assassin, and that is a bad thing. The bad thing about him is that he isn't any of those things. Instead he is a "normal" person inflated in ego and with a decaying sense of judgement. Obama and Biden didn't choose fuckwits like Milley, Trump did. Trump didn't have to choose Pence, but he did. Trump could have chosen way more staunch and principled people than Kavanaugh/Barret but he thought they were good. People see these failings and think the more cutthroat actions of DeSantis makes him more capable of fulfilling MAGA agenda. I am talking about what I think for normal people here, they're just desperately looking for someone like Trump who is more willing to get his hands dirty. I don't blame them for latching onto DeSantis when the pool of successors is so small.

Yes he did, but you also forget that Trump isn't a sociopath like every fucking polititian and at that time hadn't noticed every fucking one was his enemy. He committed the cardinal sin of trusting his fellow party members and that ended up being fatal. Why did he put the faggot Kavanaugh? Because he trusted Mitch's criteria because he knew fuck all about who to nominate. Same with Miley and Pence and so on. But the night of the daggers has passed and I would expect Trump would approach things very differently if he gets back in the seat. Lets not forget he is sursprisingly trusting but also tremendously vindictive. It's also probably why he is shit testing Youngkin and Desantis. He wants loyalty to him since loyalty to the gop means fuck all to him.

Trump is important because he IS the outsider and he allows other outsiders onto the table. Desantis does not seem like that even assuming he is legit. It's why MAGA is important, it's no about gld emperor Trump, it's about him being a battering ram that allows further waves of attack.

I've taken a casual glance through the mid term results since the WWII and not once has the party who won more votes for the house not taken the majority. When you go back beyond WWII it looks like the Repubs were at a permanent disadvantage and there were results where Reps won the popular vote but lost the house. It also looks like the Democrat south vs the Republican north.

United States midterm election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1942_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections (closest one I could find to the 2022 one)

So either we are going back to pre WWII inbalance (which was because something was up) or we somethings fucked up about this particular election. I don't buy this election wasn't heavily "fortified".

Seeing how many races have gone into stasis and how they all pretty much go democrat once they get there, I consider it blatantly obvious and also the real reason why I've gone from Trump has this on 2024 to being pretty convunced even fucking Kamala could be pushed past the finish line.

The important thing isn't republicans winning, the important thing is people that aren't faggots that will actually do something winning, and in that sense the midterms seem to have been a failure for the most part.

I get all those saying "this is good, dems hold the bag of the collapse" and that sounds great on paper. But means fucking nothing of elections aren't fair. Venezuela colapsed years ago and their retard overlord is still there on top is all I'm saying.