US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Potatoherder]

Use every one of their tactics because the only way to make leftoids stop doing something is to take advantage of it. Ballot harvest, pay the homeless to vote, cause clusterfucks at blue county polling places, etc.

With what resources? The republican party wants democrats to win and will not fund any effort. Any sort of independent funding will be extremely restricted and will likely be criminalized.

 

[Die Dunkle Maus]

How would you in this society?

Let's assume for a minute that you're a Republican senatorial candidate, incumbent or otherwise, regardless of who's the president, running in one of these swing states. How would you play this game?

I'd drop the fraud bullshit immediately. Without evidence, your BEST CASE SCENARIO is your dumb constituents actually believe you wholeheartedly, and it will finally dawn on them that their vote doesn't matter if this is true.

However, I would want to remove the APPEARANCE of impropriety and just get rid of electronic voting completely. Elections and ballots should be as basic and "old school" as possible, not everything has to be an app on your phone.

Campaign... clean the swamp, but for reals. "The swamp" isn't people doing their job in government... it's people NOT doing their job in government. Imagine a Republican that fought REAL crime, not only civilians, but dirty cops and corporations, too? A Republican with a hard on for justice would be amazing for everybody, and what's more conservative than that?

 

[tehpope]

Trump and Ron won't both run in the general, the party heads will go full mask off against Trump and split the party in two to disenfranchise voters in the general no matter who gets the nom. On top of MI, PA, and GA being completely out of reach, with AZ probably out as well, there is NO PATH to a Republican victory in 2024. The party should of been working to clean things up the last two years, instead it's been left in place for this election and will be WORSE in 2024 when it really counts.

Might be for the better. Shit has to get a lot worse for it to get better. And for normies to realize how bad the dems are. If the dems win 2024, they will have their hands all over the coming depression. And no amount of blaming the GOP will change people's opinions.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

Easy - if the higher turnout is all in already red congressional districts, they can win the popular vote and still lose the House. Similar to how Democrats can win the popular vote due to California and NY but still lose the Presidency due to other states' electoral votes.

This is why I really like the idea of an electoral college on the state level. Voter fraud has diminishing returns when you're capped at the electoral contribution of the region. It'll help nip this 2020/2022 issue of a single corrupt large city poll station "discovering" pristine mail-in ballots until their preferred candidate makes a "mysterious" comeback.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

So what exactly is stopping Republicans from doing the same thing?

It’s honestly just a bad cope. Democrats took over Congress in 2006 and when the Great Recession hit in 2008, the Republicans were on the hook for it. This whole “this loss is ackchually a win!” is a pathetic sight to behold. It’s actually worse because everyone knows things are coming off the rails and the lack of a Republican sweep means the overall confidence level in their leadership is low, which means when it does actually happen, people aren’t going to turn to Republicans.

Their determination to be the better man not realizing politics has nothing to do with "god fearing" or being "the better man." Truly the one thing that Republicans should have dropped. Responsibility and values are fine, just this mindset of playing fair and nice by the optics is nuts to me.

Their propaganda wouldn't be necessary if it were. I'm not saying it's all sunshine and rainbows, there is some very concerning shit going on right now in our federal government. But federal shit doesn't matter. Local does. And (at least in my neck of the woods), Repubs have gained a lot in the local. Some might be MAGA, some might be RINO. Who TF cares. Niggers in here are acting like because it was a red splash, and not a red wave as promised, it's time to break out the booze and cry their little hearts out like Dems did when Trump won in 2016:

TL;DR: lol calm down faggots.

I agree to an extent but I do think the propaganda/demoralization/social engineering [silencing] has succeeded on many in the Republican party. It doesn't help midterms was the straw after 2020 election that broke many camels (Republicans) backs. I'd also point out some hardcore red states are now turning blue, even if in small doses. A friend of mine who lives in Utah watched his hardcore Republican area become progressive twat USA in a matter of weeks and that's without talking about the schooling which is so far gone from before it's astonishing.

It also doesn't help with this demoralization that in 2024 many don't even plan to vote, and some watching what dems are pushing are choosing to flee America rather than stay and be persecuted which is also a bad sign for total support. It also hits hardcore because Republicans didn't focus on election on integrity in 2020, they now have no basis to stand on midterm issues which probably means the same will happen in 2024. Note: I'm not talking about GOP because fuck the GOP.

I'm seeing people in society go homeless, and starving and still either pretending to be ignorant or flat out ignorant of the cause. There is still hope, but at the same time if things don't get focused on and corrected by 2024 I don't blame many for believing all hope is lost. It doesn't help also many who know what the true solution is would rather choose flight because they've been conditioned to not prevail should the solution be anything but peaceful overall.

Shit is pretty fucked and even I'm not so certain of a positive or neutral outcome anymore.

Might be for the better. Shit has to get a lot worse for it to get better. And for normies to realize how bad the dems are. If the dems win 2024, they will have their hands all over the coming depression. And no amount of blaming the GOP will change people's opinions.

The problem is the GOP as part of the uniparty as some call them might get handed a victory purposely to muddy the waters. Kind of like a backroom deal scenario. If they do that and the GOP would love to ensure America fails as well as democrats so it's likely, they'll purposely take that blame or sit on their hands until they do even if people vote against the dems. Only thing is I don't think normies will ever realize. Debate magic is that easy on a simple brain and democrats have mastered it.

 

[Titos]

With what resources? The republican party wants democrats to win and will not fund any effort. Any sort of independent funding will be extremely restricted and will likely be criminalized.

Causing clusterfucks at blue polling places would probably be the easiest. Take a note out of the retarded shit the idiots in IP2 do. Talk to poll workers and tell them you saw someone installing hidden cameras around the building sending them on a woozle hunt. Open up a can of Surstromming in the building, pretend to be retarded and make obnoxious screeching noises, bring in a big mug of soda and pull a slippin Jimmy and make everyone sticky and cold. Generally make it uncomfortable and inconvenient for them to vote.

Edit: Want to emphasize the Surstromming is probably the best method since there's no way I can see you being held accountable for other people not enjoying the rich aroma of a Swedish delicacy.

 

[Potatoherder]

Causing clusterfucks at blue polling places would probably be the easiest. Take a note out of the retarded shit the idiots in IP2 do. Talk to poll workers and tell them you saw someone installing hidden cameras around the building sending them on a woozle hunt. Open up a can of Surstromming in the building, pretend to be retarded and make obnoxious screeching noises, bring in a big mug of soda and pull a slippin Jimmy and make everyone sticky and cold. Generally make it uncomfortable and inconvenient for them to vote.

The IP2 meth heads may be willing to go to prison and face 100 of thousands of dollars in fines but it's not a good idea to encourage the average voter to do this

Edit: Want to emphasize the Surstromming is probably the best method since there's no way I can see you being held accountable for other people not enjoying the rich aroma of a Swedish delicacy.

The rules do not apply evenly to non-leftist. If you do this you will get the maximum prison time and life ruination. Do not do anything like this.

 

[Some Badger]

The dems will never codify Roe. They'll just beg for votes using it and then say "Thanks! No Refunds." And repeat it all over again when the next election cycle comes up. Edit: The dems have been doing this for the last 50 years. Why change now?

Oh, they’re gonna try. Biden has been promising to do so as early as this coming January. Roe getting repealed last summer was egg on the progressives’ face and now they’re out for blood. It would be way easier for them to actually do something within their authority about abortion rights rather than fixing the student loan problem, and they have plenty of incentive to never fix the latter issue.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

I apologize, it just tickles me to see that easily-proven claim still brought up here 2 years after the fact. They have much better stuff to work with that actually happened in 2020, I don't get the allure of this fairy tale.

Judges were throwing cases out before anyone could get to the phase where individual ballots were held up for examination to prove the veracity of any claims. This is why Arizona had an audit, which showed a large number of invalid ballots that were counted. Said ballots have not been taken to court yet.

Until 2020, judges would happily let you take a false claim about an election to court just to beat you over the head with perjury charges. Note that after the court cases, not a single plaintiff was arrested for perjury on the spot. Why? Because the defense against perjury would be to examine each individual ballot.

When a judge refuses to look thoroughly at evidence, people will assume that the evidence holds a fact that the judge doesn’t want you to see. This raises suspicion.

 

[tehpope]

I agree to an extent but I do think the propaganda/demoralization/social engineering [silencing] has succeeded on many in the Republican party. It doesn't help midterms was the straw after 2020 election that broke many camels (Republicans) backs. I'd also point out some hardcore red states are now turning blue, even if in small doses. A friend of mine who lives in Utah watched his hardcore Republican area become progressive twat USA in a matter of weeks and that's without talking about the schooling which is so far gone from before it's astonishing.

Utah might be a lost cause. Not dooming here. Too many transplants from CA moving there. There's a large tech scene there. Adobe has a huge HQ at Thanksgiving Point. There's a lot more businesses like 15 mins down the road in American Fork. SLC and Provo also have a bunch of major companies there. And the Mormon church is funding globohomo because Blackrock et. al are twisting their arms. You might wanna ask a mormon on the forums about it cause they'd know more.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

Utah might be a lost cause. Not dooming here. Too many transplants from CA moving there. There's a large tech scene there. Adobe has a huge HQ at Thanksgiving Point. There's a lot more businesses like 15 mins down the road in American Fork. SLC and Provo also have a bunch of major companies there. And the Mormon church is funding globohomo because Blackrock et. al are twisting their arms. You might wanna ask a mormon on the forums about it cause they'd know more.

Out of all places getting fucking with ESG Utah is the weirdest. What are they doing where they even had to touch the poison pill in the first place? If it's banking why aren't they just dealing with intrastate banking? No way in hell that state has a bunch of jews infesting the local banks to deny banking for the church.

 

[Vic Smackey]

Ukraine invested in top Dem donor’s crypto company FTX as Biden admin funded war effort: report

Ukraine invested into FTX as the Biden administration funneled funds to the invaded nation, and FTX then made massive donations to Democrats in the US.

thepostmillennial.com

Spoiler: article here

The multi-billion dollar cryptocurrency company FTX, run by CEO Sam Bankman-Fried, the second biggest Democrat donor right after George Soros, collapsed last week as details emerged regarding their financial practices, which led to a run by customers on FTX. FTX did not have the funds to pay out.

It was also revealed that FTX had partnered with Ukraine to process donations to their war efforts within days of Joe Biden pledging billions of American taxpayer dollars to the country. Ukraine invested into FTX as the Biden administration funneled funds to the invaded nation, and FTX then made massive donations to Democrats in the US.
An article from the cryptocurrency news website Coindesk from March 15, 2022 reported that Ukraine partnered with FTX, and that "FTX is converting crypto contributions to Ukraine’s war effort into fiat for deposit at the National Bank of Ukraine." Fiat is the legal tender or paper money of a particular country.

Putin invaded on February 24, and by March, the Biden administration had already sent a total of $2 billion to Ukraine for security assistance. On March 16, two days after the Ukraine-FTX partnership, Biden gave another $800 million to Ukraine. As of November, the US has sent over $60 billion to Ukraine.

Bankman-Fried made donations to the Dems that totaled $39.8 million, putting him just behind George Soros and his $128 million in donations for the 2021-22 cycle. Bankman-Fried became a significant donor to Biden starting in 2020.

He was the largest financial contributor to the Protect Our Future PAC, "the political action committee which endorsed Democratic candidates such as Peter Welch, who this week won his bid to become Vermont’s next senator, and Robert J. Menendez of New Jersey, who secured a House seat."

As Bloomberg reports, Bankman-Fried had his net worth go from $15.6 billion to $1 billion in "the biggest one-day collapse it had ever seen among billionaires" over the weekend, a personal loss of funds that coincided with FTX's implosion.

It is expected that Bankman-Fried will go bankrupt in the face of a liquidity crunch and the abrupt change in financial status, and he has already filed for Chapter 11.

FTX lost roughly $1 billion of customer funds and the money "vanished," causing federal regulators to look into the company. The investigation will be conducted to determine the extent of harm to clients and what laws FTX may have broken, though FTX is not based in the US, a move that makes it possible for FTX to skirt US financial regulatory laws.

"FTX is under investigation by the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) regarding the management and handling of client funds. With this latest development, FTX has more questions to answer as scrutiny builds around the SEC investigation," Cryptoslate reports.



Roughly $5 billion was withdrawn from FTX on Sunday. The trouble began for FTX last week when rival crypto company Binance said they were selling off their holdings of FTT, which is the proprietary coin of FTX. After Binance said that, FTX was in financial trouble, and essentially sought a bailout from other firms, Binance among them.

The New York Post reports that FTX's implosion followed revelations "that co-founder Sam Bankman-Fried had been funneling money to a sister trading company run by his girlfriend." That company, Alameda Research, is run by Bankman-Fried's girlfriend, Caroline Ellison, and is also based in the Bahamas.


Binance announced that they would buy the company, then pulled out of the deal, saying that after some due diligence, they decided it would not be a good investment. "As a result of corporate due diligence, as well as the latest news reports regarding mishandled customer funds and alleged US agency investigations, we have decided that we will not pursue the potential acquisition of http://FTX.com," Binance said on Twitter.

"It’s fascinating to see that the majority of the net equity in the Alameda business is actually FTX’s own centrally controlled and printed-out-of-thin-air token," said Cory Klippsten, CEO of investment platform Swan Bitcoin.

This led to a run on FTX by customers, revealing that FTX did not have the funds to pay out.


With billions of customers' money missing, it's been revealed that top Democrat donor and FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried is in the Bahamas, where FTX is based. Additional reports are that the FTX execs are seeking a way to Dubai.

So this might be why they were so keen on sending money to Ukraine. Don't know the veracity of this story apart from that the fact FPX has gone under is confirmed.

 

[Die Dunkle Maus]

Judges were throwing cases out before anyone could get to the phase where individual ballots were held up for examination to prove the veracity of any claims. This is why Arizona had an audit, which showed a large number of invalid ballots that were counted. Said ballots have not been taken to court yet.

Until 2020, judges would happily let you take a false claim about an election to court just to beat you over the head with perjury charges. Note that after the court cases, not a single plaintiff was arrested for perjury on the spot. Why? Because the defense against perjury would be to examine each individual ballot.

When a judge refuses to look thoroughly at evidence, people will assume that the evidence holds a fact that the judge doesn’t want you to see. This raises suspicion.

Arizona has had SEVERAL audits for 2020, including the Cyber Ninja audit, and EACH AUDIT said it was a legit election.

Feel free to prove me wrong.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Arizona has had SEVERAL audits for 2020, including the Cyber Ninja audit, and EACH AUDIT said it was a legit election.

Feel free to prove me wrong.

Except everyone has been conditioned to call bullshit.

Might be for the better. Shit has to get a lot worse for it to get better. And for normies to realize how bad the dems are. If the dems win 2024, they will have their hands all over the coming depression. And no amount of blaming the GOP will change people's opinions.

You underestimate how much people are willing to take. Especially the left. The left’s only political mission now is “Keep MAGA out.” And it’s been working so far.

The IP2 meth heads may be willing to go to prison and face 100 of thousands of dollars in fines but it's not a good idea to encourage the average voter to do this

The rules do not apply evenly to non-leftist. If you do this you will get the maximum prison time and life ruination. Do not do anything like this.

And that’s why for shit to pop off, you’re going to need: 1. legions of folks that give zero fucks and 2. Folks that give zero fucks ready to fight, die, kill, and make suicide pacts so they aren’t taken by the enemy for their cause. Real Jim Jones shit.

Judges were throwing cases out before anyone could get to the phase where individual ballots were held up for examination to prove the veracity of any claims. This is why Arizona had an audit, which showed a large number of invalid ballots that were counted. Said ballots have not been taken to court yet.

Until 2020, judges would happily let you take a false claim about an election to court just to beat you over the head with perjury charges. Note that after the court cases, not a single plaintiff was arrested for perjury on the spot. Why? Because the defense against perjury would be to examine each individual ballot.

When a judge refuses to look thoroughly at evidence, people will assume that the evidence holds a fact that the judge doesn’t want you to see. This raises suspicion.

funny thing: some people WANT each individual ballot to be examined BY HAND. Even if the National guard or the US Army has to step in.

 

[Random Internet Person]

The war truly is on. That or the scheme os working. Who could have guessed purity tests would become a thing?

 

[Potatoherder]

The war truly is on. That or the scheme os working. Who could have guessed purity tests would become a thing?


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The thing these people don't get is people like Trump as a person. DeSantis comes off as a politician. He may get some things done but at the end of the day you know he'll sell you out at the first chance he gets.

 

[Kaido117]

What are the chances someone within the Democratic Party will challenge Biden for the nomination?

 

[The Big O]

What are the chances someone within the Democratic Party will challenge Biden for the nomination?

In my opinion (and in a sane world) it's damn near guaranteed in the next two years, especially if his lucidity slips too hard to plausibly deny, among many other outside factors like how bad the economy shits itself, how much internal turmoil continues between the Democrat sub-factions, etc.

Who the Democrats would choose is another story... My money is still on Queen Clinton.

 

[Some Badger]

What are the chances someone within the Democratic Party will challenge Biden for the nomination?

Gehenna is more qualified to answer this in depth, but I think the next two years will determine whether or not Biden will try and run for a second term. It's convenient for TPTB to keep him around to serve as this figurehead to Democrat interests while they continue to fight behind the scenes and ignore the grievances of their constituents. I personally hope he runs again because the only remotely viable alternative is probably gonna be AOC, or God forbid another round of Hillary.

 

[verissimus]

In my opinion (and in a sane world) it's damn near guaranteed in the next two years, especially if his lucidity slips too hard to plausibly deny, among many other outside factors like how bad the economy shits itself, how much internal turmoil continues between the Democrat sub-factions, etc.

Who the Democrats would choose is another story... My money is still on Queen Clinton.

Pretty sure AOC has already whined about Biden (never mind the "leadership" of her party). As for who will replace Biden, dare I say Gavin Newsom? We already know he'll have the West Coast and aunt Nancy backing if he decided to run.