Opinion NYT Editorial Board: Extremists in Uniform Put the Nation at Risk - The Threat of Far-Right Extremism in Law Enforcement and the Military

Extremists in Uniform Put the Nation at Risk
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By The NYT Editorial Board
2022-11-13 06:00:07GMT

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The editorial board is a group of opinion journalists whose views are informed by expertise, research, debate and certain longstanding values. It is separate from the newsroom.

This editorial is the second in a series, “The Danger Within,” urging readers to understand the danger of extremist violence and possible solutions. Read more about the series in a note from Kathleen Kingsbury, the Times Opinion editor.
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On May 29, 2020, Steven Carrillo decided that his moment to take up arms against the government had arrived.

It was a Friday in downtown Oakland, Calif., and at 9:44 p.m., Mr. Carrillo opened the sliding door of a white van and, according to court documents, opened fire with a rifle at the Ronald V. Dellums Federal Building and courthouse. Officer David Patrick Underwood was killed inside a guard booth, and his partner was seriously injured. The van sped away into the night.

About a week later, Mr. Carrillo, who was tied to the antigovernment paramilitary boogaloo movement, was arrested after he ambushed and murdered a police officer and wounded several others with homemade explosives and an assault rifle in another attack some 60 miles away. Mr. Carrillo wasn’t just linked to an antigovernment paramilitary group; he was also an active-duty sergeant in the Air Force. This summer, he was sentenced to 41 years in prison for attacking agents of the government he’d sworn to protect and defend.

There has been a steady rise in political violence in the United States — from harassment of election workers and public officials to the targeting of a Supreme Court justice to an attack on the husband of the speaker of the House of Representatives and, of course, the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6. An alarming number of Americans say that political violence is usually or always justified, and this greater tolerance for violence is a direct threat to democratic governance.

America needs to reduce this threat. In recent years, the majority of political violence has come at the hands of members of right-wing extremist groups or unaffiliated adherents of their white supremacist and antigovernment ideologies. This editorial board argued in the first of this series that better enforcement of state and federal laws banning private paramilitary activity could help dismantle some of the groups at the vanguard of this violence.

One of the most troubling facts about adherents of extremist movements is that veterans, active-duty military personnel and members of law enforcement are overrepresented. One estimate, published in The Times in 2020, found that at least 25 percent of members of extremist paramilitary groups have a military background.

Still, only a tiny number of veterans or members of the active-duty military or law enforcement will ever join an extremist group. Their overrepresentation is partly due to extremist groups focusing on recruiting from these populations because of their skills. But the presence of these elements within the ranks of law enforcement is cause for extra concern. Of the more than 900 people arrested in connection with the Jan. 6 attacks, 135 had military or law enforcement backgrounds. The Program on Extremism at George Washington University found that among those in policing, 18 are retired, and six are active. One Capitol Police officer who was not on the scene that day but was aware of the attack later advised a participant on how to avoid being caught.

For decades, police departments, the Pentagon and the Department of Veterans Affairs have known about the problem, yet they have made only halting progress in rooting out extremists in the ranks.

Jan. 6 changed that. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin was so alarmed by the events of that day that he ordered all military commands to reinforce existing regulations prohibiting extremist activity and to query service members about their views on the extent of the problem. The Defense Department standardized its screening questionnaires for recruits and changed its social media policies, so that liking or reposting white nationalist and extremist content would be considered the same as advocating it. Service members could face disciplinary action for doing so. The department also began preparing retiring members to avoid being recruited by extremist groups.

But those reforms were more easily ordered than executed. A department inspector general report released this year found that the Pentagon’s sprawling bureaucracy was unable to identify the scope of the problem across the services because it used numerous reporting systems that were not interconnected. Commanders often didn’t have a clear understanding of what was prohibited. As a result, the department “cannot fully implement policy and procedures to address extremist activity without clarifying the definitions of ‘extremism,’ ‘extremist,’ ‘active advocacy’ and ‘active participation,’” the report concluded.

After 20 years of the war on terrorism, the country is now seeing many veterans joining extremist groups like the Proud Boys.

The end of wars and the return of the disillusioned veterans they can produce have often been followed by a spike in extremism. The white power movement grew after the end of the Vietnam War, with veterans often playing leading roles. Antigovernment activity climbed in the 1990s after the first Iraq war, culminating in the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City by Timothy McVeigh, an Army veteran who had served in Operation Desert Storm. “These groups can give disaffected veterans a sense of purpose, camaraderie, community once they leave military service,” said Cassie Miller, an extremism researcher at the Southern Poverty Law Center.

In 2012, Andrew Turner ended his nine-year Navy career at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center with a shattered hand and loathing of the government. He’d served around the world, from South Korea to Iraq, and the experience had left him disabled and furious. “When the military was done with me, they threw me on a heap. I took it personally and was so angry,” he said in an interview.

In 2013 a fellow service member suggested that he check out a group called the Oath Keepers. Mr. Turner, then 39, joined the Maryland chapter, paid his dues and “initially felt that esprit de corps that I’d missed from the military,” he said. He felt a bond and even spent time with the group’s founder, Stewart Rhodes, who is currently on trial and charged with seditious conspiracy for his role in the Jan. 6 attacks. (Mr. Rhodes has denied ordering the group to attack the Capitol and stop the certification of the 2020 election results, as the government contends.) There’s a photo of them at the World War II Memorial in Washington, holding an Oath Keepers banner.

But Mr. Turner soon realized that the group was not the apolitical, service-oriented veterans’ association he thought it to be. In private online forums, discussions were full of racist language, and members flirted with violence. He walked away after six months. “It’s easy to find vulnerable people at their weakest moments. I was naïve, but if anyone joins the Oath Keepers today, they know exactly what they’re getting into,” he said.

Experts in the field recommend some basic steps the military should take that could make a difference. Better training, counseling and discussion of the true nature of extremism are vital and must start long before service members retire and need to continue after they do. Better staff training and better funding for the Department of Veterans Affairs are also critical to meeting this challenge, so that members who are struggling can be coaxed down a different path.
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While the military can exert fairly strict control over men and women in uniform, civilian law enforcement agencies face a different set of challenges in addressing extremists or extremist sympathizers in the ranks.

At least 24 current and former police officers have been charged with crimes in relation to the Jan. 6 attacks, and dozens of others have been identified as part of the crowd at the Capitol. Some officers who participated wanted things to go further than they did. “Kill them all,” Peter Heneen, a sheriff’s deputy in Florida, texted another deputy during the attack. The streets of the capital, he wrote, needed to “run red with the blood of these tyrants.”

Experts who track the tactics of extremist movements have been sounding the klaxon about the growing presence of antigovernment and white supremacist groups in law enforcement for years. “Although white supremacist groups have historically engaged in strategic efforts to infiltrate and recruit from law enforcement communities, current reporting on attempts reflects self-initiated efforts by individuals, particularly among those already within law enforcement ranks, to volunteer their professional resources to white supremacist causes with which they sympathize,” an F.B.I. intelligence assessment concluded in 2006.

Last year a leaked membership roster of the Oath Keepers, a violent paramilitary group involved in the Jan. 6 attacks that recruits police officers and military personnel, included some 370 members of law enforcement and more than 100 members of the military, according to an Anti-Defamation League Center on Extremism analysis. An investigation by Reuters this year found that several police trainers around the country — who together have trained hundreds of officers — belong to extremist paramilitary groups or expressed sympathy for their ideas. One trainer, for instance, posted on social media that government officials disloyal to Donald Trump should be executed and that the country was on the brink of civil war.

A recent investigation by the Marshall Project found that hundreds of sheriffs nationwide are part of or are sympathetic to the ideas behind the constitutional sheriffs movement, which holds that sheriffs are above state and federal law and are not required to accept gun laws, enforce Covid restrictions or investigate election results. The Anti-Defamation League describes the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association as an “antigovernment extremist group whose primary purpose is to recruit sheriffs into the antigovernment ‘patriot’ movement.”

Identifying members of extremist groups and those sympathetic to their ideology to make sure they don’t join the thin blue line in the first place should be a priority for departments and governments nationwide. Yet most departments don’t have explicit prohibitions on officers joining extremist paramilitary groups, according to a 2020 study by the Brennan Center for Justice.

Since Jan. 6, however, some states have successfully pushed for reforms. This fall, California passed a law that requires law enforcement agencies to screen candidates for participation in groups that promote hate crimes or genocide. In April, Minnesota’s police officer standards board proposed a series of rule changes, including barring people who belong to or support extremist groups from getting a law enforcement license. Public hearings‌, which are set to be held‌ on those changes, deserve support. Other states and communities should look closely at these measures as a model.

Prosecutors in communities all over the United States also have a powerful tool already at their disposal: cross-examination during criminal trial. All defendants in criminal cases have a constitutional right to know about potentially exculpatory evidence. If an arresting officer is a member of a hate group or expresses extremist beliefs, that should be a subject of cross-examination by the defense.

If prosecutors were more aggressive about vetting police officers for extremist views, “defendants will get fairer trials, the public will be informed of problem officers through public trials, and police and prosecutors get the opportunity to identify problematic police officers and take action to rid the force of these officers,” wrote Vida Johnson, a professor at Georgetown Law, in a 2019 law review article.
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Americans have a nearly unlimited right to free speech and association, and any effort to stop extremist violence must ensure that those rights are protected. Reforms should be carefully structured to avoid the abuses that occurred in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks — the violations of civil liberties, mass surveillance and the accelerated militarization of the police, to name a few. But protecting freedom of expression need not stand in the way of tackling extremism in police departments.

Officers around the country have rightly been fired for racist or extremist actions. But punishment for harboring extremist sympathies is a finer line, because Americans have the right to believe what they like. So, the treatment of officers with extremist beliefs and extremist connections is often uneven. This year, a New York prison guard who belonged to a right-wing hate group was ultimately fired — not just for membership but also for trying to smuggle hate literature into the prison. This may be a useful model in determining where extremist ideology crosses the line to actions that can be addressed by law or regulation.

Other recent attempts to root out extremism have been less clear-cut. An unidentified police officer in Chicago was given a four-month suspension but was not dismissed after it was discovered that he had ties to the Proud Boys. Last month, a police officer in Massachusetts was found to have been involved in the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Va. He resigned, and the district attorney announced an investigation into all closed and pending cases he had worked on.

Coordinating the efforts of the nation’s roughly 18,000 law enforcement agencies has been notoriously difficult. Federal standards or even guidelines about how to deal with extremism — in recruiting officers, disciplining existing ones or even sharing information — would go a long way toward harmonizing law enforcement’s response. But carrying out such changes would require both local attention to detail and the political will to do so. It would also require staffing law enforcement with people committed to the rule of law, rather than rule by force. As one congressional staff member working on homeland security issues put it: “People have to decide this is a priority. We can't legislate hearts and minds.”

Across the board, extremists and their sympathizers, whether they act on their beliefs or just spread them, erode the public’s trust in the institutions that are designed to keep the country safe. Extremists bearing badges can put at risk ongoing police investigations by leaking confidential information. In the military, extremists pose a threat to good order and discipline. In law enforcement, extremists — particularly white supremacists — pose a threat to the people they are meant to protect, especially people of color. In federal agencies, extremists can compromise national security and make our borders even less secure. Protecting those institutions and the nation they serve demands urgent action.
 
Should have thought of that before you demonized them as baby-killing fascists.

Across the board, extremists and their sympathizers, whether they act on their beliefs or just spread them, erode the public’s trust in the institutions that are designed to keep the country safe. Extremists bearing badges can put at risk ongoing police investigations by leaking confidential information. In the military, extremists pose a threat to good order and discipline. In law enforcement, extremists — particularly white supremacists — pose a threat to the people they are meant to protect, especially people of color. In federal agencies, extremists can compromise national security and make our borders even less secure. Protecting those institutions and the nation they serve demands urgent action.
This you, NYT?

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There is a huge dissociation between journalism and working-class rural white men and that's a problem.

Reading the OP, my skeptical brain was thinking in re: their proposal to have a government crackdown on militias, "How is what they're proposing here legal?"

If I want to go play soldier in the woods with my friends, there's nothing illegal there. We can wear army surplus and shoot live rounds and THIS IS AMERICA.

But there's an elite distaste for that and I think a lot of it comes down to "I am uncomfortable with this and I know that there are legal regulations about this and therefore my discomfort makes this activity totally illegal."

Even the State of California is real cagey about what constitutes illegal militia activity. Like you basically have to be intentionally planning a criminal act in order to fall under the guidelines.


So if I gather with friends and we pretend we're fighting commies, that's legal, but if we plan to attack the Ronald V. Dellums Federal Building at 1301 Clay Street in Oakland, that's not legal.

I was making a point here. It's time to smoke a bowl in California. FUCK THE FEDS.
 
I'm just patiently waiting for the crackdown on right wing groups like antifa. When they are cracked down on, they will be labelled as such.

I don't remember every day for a few months going onto twitter to watch white supremacists attack a courthouse. Yet they apparently do all the politically motivated violence.
 
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Am I totally misinformed, or isn't it true that when someone joins the military they take an oath, "to protect the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic?"

I've never heard of regular military people swearing an oath to protect and defend government employees.

Am I just being autistic or is there actually a big difference?
They are saying that he attacked the agents of a government that he swore an oath to defend.
He (subject 1) attached agents (subject 2) of the government (subject 3).
 
You know what? Fuck it. Let's kick out guys that have the drive to actually succeed. Let's boot the "extremists" and make an enemy out of a potential asset. Keep recruiting Mx. Goldberg-Johnson, the gender studies major from New England, rather than the guy who can actually hold a rifle and shoot, and didn't join up merely for free college and troon surgery. Instead, make them actively fucking hate the country because they've been blacklisted. That's genius, I can't wait for next week's article by the author, "Disregard the Saying - Sticking Your Dick in a Hornet Nest is a Good Idea".
Our military is in dire straits right now, and retards like this is why. We have the equipment, but we are rapidly losing the people who actually make shit work and replacing them with incompetent retards. Even when somebody who is competent joins, they get stuck right where they are, because the entire leadership has subscribed to the idea of failing upwards to get morons away from them.
 
They are saying that he attacked the agents of a government that he swore an oath to defend.
He (subject 1) attached agents (subject 2) of the government (subject 3).
But the Constitution is not a government and it has no agents. He never swore an oath to protect any government or any individual people.
 
They will never like the Military and the Police, will they?

Is this like Football that even when they'll had taken over and reshaped the whole thing to their whims they'd still hate it and would keep torturing it forever?
 
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If we killed every journalist we'd be getting reports from Hell within the hour William Tecumseh Sherman
I would forgive my son for becoming a prostitute but not a journalist
But the 1800's considered most journalists the lowest of human scum
Speaking of ol' Sherman:
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I see no reason to dispute his statement. Also, your English sucks and you need to do better, faggot.
 
Odd, you would think the "extremists" who have a rabid pride in their country and love for it would be the kind of people you'd want defending said nation.
But according to my betters I ackshually should want marxists and/or beaners who loathe my country, spit on the sacrifices of those who built it, and who would put down their arms at the first sign of distress against an enemy.
None of that matters if they fly pride flags or flags of the failed nations that drove them away and into America.

Thanks NYT! This piece was a great and informative read that incidentally went great with my soylent smoothie! Yum!

They will never like the Military and the Police, will they?
Not until it pledges loyalty only to them instead of every sovereign citizen they represent.
But at the same time, there's not much to love in contemporary soldiers and pigs these days. They'll sooner put a hole in your head than defend you against tyrants foreign and domestic.
 
Their overrepresentation is partly due to extremist groups focusing on recruiting from these populations because of their skills.
Not a single thought that maybe patriotic people may join the military, become disillusioned, then turn. The extremist groups purposely target these people; now please bring up how street gangs are sending people to get training and cartels have active sleeper cells in the military as well. Same thing with cops; there's probably a group of good-natured people who want to make a difference, then after being punched, bit, pissed/vomited/bled on, and other shit; they figure out that maybe joggers fucking get what they deserve. They still have the problem with gangs and cartels and shit too. You know what else they have; politically motivated and fart-huffing brass who are out of touch and willing to fuck them over because they want to look good for the progressive cause. Anyone who's done any sort of public service and doesn't feel this way is part of the problem.
 
Believe "wokeness" is far more of a threat to the military and country than extremists. Extremists are few in number. But "wokeness" is spreading through the military like pancreatic cancer, long since infecting those at the top.
The wokies are the extremists. If you haven't noticed, the zealots are cult-like in their adherence and want to dominate the government and its institutions with no regard for accountability.
 
There is a huge dissociation between journalism and working-class rural white men and that's a problem.
Not just working class men either, everything rural is completely unknown to the modern journo due to their strong bias against even considering it as a valid way to live life.
Reading the OP, my skeptical brain was thinking in re: their proposal to have a government crackdown on militias, "How is what they're proposing here legal?"

If I want to go play soldier in the woods with my friends, there's nothing illegal there. We can wear army surplus and shoot live rounds and THIS IS AMERICA.

But there's an elite distaste for that and I think a lot of it comes down to "I am uncomfortable with this and I know that there are legal regulations about this and therefore my discomfort makes this activity totally illegal."

This is another stumbling block the coastal journal can't get over, the idea that normal law-abiding people can own guns and remain law-abiding. Not through a loophole, not through just keeping their behavior so low-key the cops don't notice, not through joining secret societies, but by the fact that owning a gun by itself is not illegal. A consequence of them living in tightly-controlled cities where everything gun related is heavily restricted means they just can't envision anywhere that isn't as not being some kind of hellscape, and they refuse to do any research to contradict this. Hell, they refuse to do any research to even confirm it, which is obvious when they try to describe all that's bad going on in red America today, without actually touching it (such would taint them with wrongthink) and are exposed as liars when it turns out their expose' of "The milita threat" for example is just a game of telephone, played among their fellow journos in email chains, and thus a story about how unspeakable violence will soon rule the streets of every rural town springs from whole cloth and onto the pages of the NYT.... despite not a single person involved having ever left the greater Manhattan area to write it.

Even the State of California is real cagey about what constitutes illegal militia activity. Like you basically have to be intentionally planning a criminal act in order to fall under the guidelines.

I wonder if once the reality of post-Bruen gun-control sets in (their magazine and "assault weapons" bans being definitively Unconstitutional) the next step to try and achieve the same outcome will be to ramp up the penalties and lower the bar of proof for belonging to a violent and seditious "militia" and take your guns that way? As you were clearly up to no good having joined that weekend range club....?

I wouldn't put it past them, they just can't seem to square that circle that gun ownership by non-felons is fundamentally legal and there is no proof of mens rea in buying a firearm when you are entitled to do so, and no actus rea in using one in a non-illegal way.

The modern leftist feeling on what constitutes legal gun usage? And ownership? It's straight out of Catch-22


Orr would be crazy to own a gun and sane if he didn't, but if he was sane he could own one. If he owned one he was crazy and couldn't; but if he didn't want to he was sane and could. Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle.​

 
One trainer, for instance, posted on social media that government officials disloyal to Donald Trump should be executed and that the country was on the brink of civil war.
Didn't the Democrats say that disloyalty to the President is treason?

What is the punishment for treason?
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A recent investigation by the Marshall Project found that hundreds of sheriffs nationwide are part of or are sympathetic to the ideas behind the constitutional sheriffs movement, which holds that sheriffs are above state and federal law and are not required to accept gun laws, enforce Covid restrictions or investigate election results.
How is this different from police chiefs and Sheriff's not enforcing or setting the lowest enforcement priority for drug or immigration laws?

Can law enforcement agents have discretion or does every violation of the law need to result in what the legislation proscribes?
 
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