Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Butterschmalz]

Which one, I keep seeing new vids posted about the gay russian army every week

Good for you bro. Your mom must be very proud. Keep it up!

 

[AnonymousKot]

Just don't see that happening. Suggest that would require far more professionalism and competence than Russia has shown so far. Their shit is beyond fucked up. As you have alluded to, the more the Ukrainians get their shit together, and the better they get, the worse the Russians do. Morale is high with the Ukrainians, very low with the Russians.

Folks, suggest checking out "1420" on YouTube. Most days, young people with balls of steel interview Russians on the streets of Moscow, other cities, and towns out in the boonies, re the war and related matters. The younger people tend to be more critical, the older people tend to support Putin, but now and then you hear older people just telling the truth about how fucked up everything is. See many refusing to respond or being noncommittal. Worth a look any time. A side observation - get out of the cities and into the countryside and Russia is a Third World country, for sure. Watched people drawing water from a community well, for example.

As much as I would love to believe you, I doubt most russians young or old care about ukraine, most of them probably think it was a good idea to invade it since russians, liberal and conservative, have a belief that russia is an exception, a fair viewpoint tbh, its just that they are publicly critical if they are at risk of getting fucked i.e mobilized.

Good for you bro. Your mom must be very proud. Keep it up!

Don't blame me if everyone here and on /pol/ keeps posting the videos in threads where it don't belong, i've seen vids of it in /v/

 

[demicolon]

Wonder how @Borscht is doing? Hope he wasn't press-ganged to Kherson...

Anyway, I'd like to remind people that Russian soldiers sent to Ukraine probably had 0 say if they'd like it or not. The same is true for ordinary fucking people on the streets, it's not like they could vote on anything Putin wanted to do.

I'm just getting sick of comparing Russians to orcs and other calls of genocide, especially from the supposedly tolerant and compassionable liberal side. Khokholing retards ITT are no better.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

what's the story here? russian fifth column inside ukraine hunting down deserters and turncoats to make an example of them or something?

//also his story is weird. talks about getting jumped and kidnapped while "walking around in kyiv" but i don't think prisoners of war can do things such as walking around in cities alone, they're generally locked inside their prison camps, no?

War parole is a thing. American Civil war is a good example (Paroled but you cannot engage in hostilities until you're "officially exchanged". But that requires both sides to hold to a degree of civility that we probably won't be seeing here.

Did Russians ever use them? Aren't OSAs made in the Balkans? Russian allies are very hesitant to help. When they do, that help is very limited. If Serbians were to send OSAs to Russia it could get in the way of their negotiations with EU and kill the possible ascension.

Only allies Russia can count on so far are Iran and North Korea. Even they deny the assistance as much as possible and only started to sell weapons recently. Outside of them, other Russian allies provide minuscule amounts of outdated tech at exorbitant prices, and gorge themselves on heavily discounted Russian oil. To make matters worse, buyers like India and Saudis use some of these savings to aid Ukraine and make more weapon deals with the west.

It was produced under the the Banner of Labor plant in Moscow. I believe final assembly was in Georgia maybe.
Used in the Amernian-Azeri shootout recently in taking down drones and an SU-25T. I think it was used in the 2008 Georgian war but not sure if there was a kill count.

It has it's own radar mounted on top but can also tap in to the Kub radars 1S12 and ST-68U (?). Shooting down high fliers is a bit out of it's envelope but it's perfect for drones and attack craft due to it's shorter range (15km, 12,000m max alt). There also exists a wire guided version.

There is a simulator of it (and several other vehicles for you with autism like me:

SAM Simulator

(Free) SAM (Surface to Air Missile System) Simulator "Realistic to the switch"

sites.google.com

 

[AgendaPoster]

Supporting Ukraine is an act of submission to ZOG, never forget it, trannies.
Anything that impedes Russian rule over Ukraine is just submissive goys sipping on their zogslop.

(A)

 

[just a banana]

meanwhile

 

[AgendaPoster]

Wonder how @Borscht is doing? Hope he wasn't press-ganged to Kherson...

Anyway, I'd like to remind people that Russian soldiers sent to Ukraine probably had 0 say if they'd like it or not. The same is true for ordinary fucking people on the streets, it's not like they could vote on anything Putin wanted to do.

I'm just getting sick of comparing Russians to orcs and other calls of genocide, especially from the supposedly tolerant and compassionable liberal side. Khokholing retards ITT are no better.

They have to rebel and fight their leadership instead of going like sheep to fight in a foreign country so Putin's oligarchy can survive a few more years while he builds his autistic imperial legacy.
Some will die, but some will die in Ukraine too. Better to fix your own place and renormalize relations with Europe, it's the smart, long term thing to do.

 

[Hard Toothbrush]

yo where the war cats at

 

[Corette]

yo where the war cats at

Probably eaten because of logistics issues.

 

[Grotesque Bushes]

Just ask yourself, what does Russia gain from occupying Kherson?Not much, its just a population they have to police and protect and it doesn't really provide much upside as these people are largely disinterested in signing up for even militia duties.
This Kherson stuff is being read entirely backwards, its not a sign of weakness at all, its pragmatic and has made it harder for Ukraine to conduct offensive operations towards the Crimea since the bridges are now gone and allows Russia to focus on other fronts like Donbabwe which has been its stated interest all along. Russia's new general is unfucking the situation by shortening the line which is going to intensify the conflict in some regions, Ukraine operates best when Russia is spread out because Ukraine can fill the line with militia forces, i requires Russia to also put something on the line immediately opposed to it or just have them advance into the rear.

By ceding Kherson they shortened the front by 260km, and gave up the dream of Odesa flying the Russian flag. Giving up land you've recently annexed to your country after 8 months of a war where you're the aggressor is a sign of weakness. It is a sound choice if you have no way of stopping the Ukrainian counteroffensive as it'll be incredibly difficult for Ukies to cross Dnipro and the line can be held by relatively minor forces. Same is true for the Z-team tho - they had an ability to project force from Kherson onwards, they gave it up. Being on the defensive and ceding gained territory during your war of aggression is usually a sign of it going a bit fucky wucky, at least temporarily.
And as for Russia's focus - give me a fucking break, the 'stated interest' and 'obvious focus and goal' of the Extraordinary Shootyboi Weekend Excursion somehow changes every time the situation on the front shifts. It was taking Kiev in February, annexing new Russian territories six weeks ago, crippling the Ukrainian energy grid three weeks ago, and now it's all about Donbabwe and Lughanda.

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Apparently there are Ruskis who genuinely think Chinaman might come and fight in this war for them. And they got baited by the chinese airsoft team.

There's not even an imaginary universe in which China will do anything but laugh from the sidelines at dumb whiteys killing eachother.

I am certain generals Ching Chong and Ping Pong are shouting at some other chinamen with funny names that they have to IMMEDIATELY dispatch an expeditionary corps of 25 million soldiers to help their only local competitor out.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Wonder how @Borscht is doing? Hope he wasn't press-ganged to Kherson...

Anyway, I'd like to remind people that Russian soldiers sent to Ukraine probably had 0 say if they'd like it or not. The same is true for ordinary fucking people on the streets, it's not like they could vote on anything Putin wanted to do.

I'm just getting sick of comparing Russians to orcs and other calls of genocide, especially from the supposedly tolerant and compassionable liberal side. Khokholing retards ITT are no better.

Most of the people saying all Russians need to die are edge lords who also say Nigger on the internet. I would not take them too seriously. The only people who ACTUALLY mean it are the Pollacks and the Baltics. But again, I would not take them too seriously either.

Agreed. Ukraine has demonstrated (with the help of superior Western arms) a consistent ability to suppress Russian logistics routes, isolate Russian forces, and either destroy them or force a retreat. The only period of static warfare, during the summer, was a period of Ukrainian mobilisation. Right now with the recapture of Kherson and damage to the Kerch bridge the only viable supply route to Crimea (via Donbass and Zaporizhia Oblast) is within artillery range. Ukraine is in a good position to isolate Russian forces on the peninsula.

If they can push south into Zaporizhia Oblast and retake Melitopol, they have a real shot at cutting off Crimea and slowly retaking the peninsula. Seems like the logical next target, and it would be a huge enough symbolic achievement to probably topple Putin's administration and end the war. Of course in that scenario there is always the risk that Putin is replaced by hardliners who instead choose to mobilise for total war and even deploy nuclear weapons, so that's not an automatic good outcome for us or Ukraine.

In any case I don't expect a forever trench war or anything like that. Another slow period, perhaps, as both sides reorient their forces for their expected next moves in the aftermath of recent events. Geography does not favour a static defensive war for Russia, their lines are extended in the worst direction for that (south and west) and they are learning the hard way that they don't have the numbers and material for this war.

If Russia was going to use nukes, they should have used them before they lost Kherson. At this point, if they use nukes now the knives are going to come out. Russia as a country would be done. They would find themselves at war with pretty much everyone. Including China who would use it as the best excuse ever to reclaim historical Qing Dynasty lands in Southeastern Russia. NATO would also intervene directly, and Russia's central Asian "allies" would abandon it. Nukes are literally the last card Russia has as deterrent. If they play it everyone else will show their hands too. And everyone knows Russia is holding a losing hand.

 

[Grotesque Bushes]

Most of the people saying all Russians need to die are edge lords who also say Nigger on the internet.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Really though, I am enjoying the absolute schadenfreud of someone who has been invested in the Ukraine War story arc since it started with the Maidan protests. I fully remember the absolute full force gas lighting by the Russians about the totally legit, native uprising in Donbas and Crimea. The entire fiasco that was "There are no Russian soldiers in either place. Those troops are on leave and are merely tourists".

I think what offended me the most about the shit was not how smug the Russians and their supporters were as they said it, but how desperately the western countries decided to go with the lie. Obama is the root evil for so much shit we have to deal with today, and among those things was his abrogation of responsibility to Ukraine with the respect to the Budapest memorandum. Russia maybe could have gotten away with Crimea, but a hard line should have drawn with the DPR and the LPR. Especially after the Russian Army shot down that Malaysian airliner carrying 100+ Dutch citizens. Obama instead decided to go with the "ooopsie poopsie, who knows who did it? Ukraine, Rebels? Not us! Never mind the fact the airliner was flying at an altitude beyond the range of any AA weapons platform possessed by Ukraine or the rebel factions at the time. Obama looked the other way then too.

And when Putin formally annexed Crimea, the western powers were perfectly happy to go along with the fiction. All the bullshit and gaslighting was conveniently overlooked. Putin had done it. He had changed the borders of Europe, and had gotten away clean. All he had to do was die gracefully in office. But it just was not enough. He had to have more. He had to carry Russia all the way to the Polish and Moldovan borders. He is the very definition of a gambler, who having won a large pot decides to risk it all on one last throw of the dice.

Now he is poised to lose everything. And he richly fucking deserves it. People are making noises that Ukraine needs to negotiate a peace with Russia. Why? They are winning. What possible benefit can they gain by Negotiations? Russia has lied to Ukraine about everything for the last 30 years. Why on earth should Ukraine believe them now?

 

[AgendaPoster]

Most of the people saying all Russians need to die are edge lords who also say Nigger on the internet. I would not take them too seriously. The only people who ACTUALLY mean it are the Pollacks and the Baltics. But again, I would not take them too seriously either.

Most don't, it's just local aesthetics to hate Russia if you're Baltics, Polish or Romanian, Hungary and Romania are aesthetically hating each other too, and everyone that was part of Austria-Hungary hates Hungary (minus Hungary OFC, Austria is just not giving 2 fucks). The only serious hatreds in the area are the Russian/Ukraine and Serbia/Muslim Bosnians/Albanians/Kosovars etc.
Rest of us just "hate" for the lulz cause it's trad. With exceptions, there are always some bloodthirsty psychopathic outliers.

Really though, I am enjoying the absolute schadenfreud of someone who has been invested in the Ukraine War story arc since it started with the Maidan protests. I fully remember the absolute full force gas lighting by the Russians about the totally legit, native uprising in Donbas and Crimea. The entire fiasco that was "There are no Russian soldiers in either place. Those troops are on leave and are merely tourists".

I think what offended me the most about the shit was not how smug the Russians and their supporters were as they said it, but how desperately the western countries decided to go with the lie. Obama is the root evil for so much shit we have to deal with today, and among those things was his abrogation of responsibility to Ukraine with the respect to the Budapest memorandum. Russia maybe could have gotten away with Crimea, but a hard line should have drawn with the DPR and the LPR. Especially after the Russian Army shot down that Malaysian airliner carrying 100+ Dutch citizens. Obama instead decided to go with the "ooopsie poopsie, who knows who did it? Ukraine, Rebels? Not us! Never mind the fact the airliner was flying at an altitude beyond the range of any AA weapons platform possessed by Ukraine or the rebel factions at the time. Obama looked the other way then too.

And when Putin formally annexed Crimea, the western powers were perfectly happy to go along with the fiction. All the bullshit and gaslighting was conveniently overlooked. Putin had done it. He had changed the borders of Europe, and had gotten away clean. All he had to do was die gracefully in office. But it just was not enough. He had to have more. He had to carry Russia all the way to the Polish and Moldovan borders. He is the very definition of a gambler, who having won a large pot decides to risk it all on one last throw of the dice.

Now he is poised to lose everything. And he richly fucking deserves it. People are making noises that Ukraine needs to negotiate a peace with Russia. Why? They are winning. What possible benefit can they gain by Negotiations? Russia has lied to Ukraine about everything for the last 30 years. Why on earth should Ukraine believe them now?

There were many of us that lean right socially that got bamboozled by Russia, including myself, and I even have the anti-Russian blood vengeance thing going due to having multiple members of my family getting fucked over badly by Russians and their puppets later on, and I would still have gotten over all that, all the granddad stories of destruction and death and poverty, rapes and killings, just because Russia was pushing some sort of counter to the Western liberalism, which poses a real danger to societies in the East, lived in both parts for years and there's about 0% chance I change my mind on it.
For me things got sus when Crimea got taken over. Donbas war made it mega-sus, and I remember telling my family that they should be more thankful that we're at peace, because not far from us a war is raging in full and a newly emboldened Russia is back to its old tricks.
I dismissed the election interference, Russia-gate, even though I never like Trump. It seemed just shitty Dem propaganda. In short, I was willing to just accept some Russian weird stuff. I also dismissed the poisonings, and again I remember that my family reacted negatively because I seemed pro-Russian which yeah, it's sus here.
But by late 2021 I no longer dismissed anything and stopped finding any redeeming qualities in Russia. I knew the massive army on Ukraine's border costs too much to be not utilized. I knew hell will break lose, and trying to take territory through war from a European country populated with people just like me is far beyond any acceptability.
This is why the West reacted differently now, I suspect. Crimea was bloodless. Donbas war was distant, localized, silent.
Trying to take Kiev and leveling Mariupol resurrects clear imagery of WW2. That's kinda enough to set a big reaction in motion. The endless gore and atrocity porn online is telling the real story of this war. This is serious levels of shit hitting the fan. Has to be fixed.
I assume most Russia sympathizers are either financially bound to the Kremlin, or maybe by blood, it's understandable for a Russian to feel singled out and hated.
Rest are just useful idiots, hence my half-jokes about McCarthy.
They might need a similar process that I went through, but mine took fucking years, and we don't really have that time now.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I think the biggest issues is Europe has been at peace for so long nobody, not even the Russians, fully comprehended the enormity of what was about to happen. Kyiv isn't some backwater European city. Its a European capital of 3 MILLION people. It has a larger population then Rome, and is the 7th largest city in Europe. For me as a history buff, the image of a city this size setting off air raid sirens as the population fled into the subways was shocking. I think for everyone else in Europe it probably evoked some very traumatic living memories.

Putin has been pushing the limits for years now, and he finally went too far. Its going to cost Russia dearly. We are watching the current global order shift under our feet in real time. If Ukraine wins this war, they will be without question, the greatest military power on the Eurasian Continent bar China. That is a catastrophic power realignment that is going to have knock on effect for generations. Right now the Western powers are sending weapons and ammo to Ukraine, but Ukraine already has a native military industrial complex that is largely undamaged. Where will that be in 10 years?

For that matter? Where will Ukraine's nuclear industry be? With the Budapest memorandum abrogated, Ukraine is fully within its rights to develop nuclear weapons, and 100% they will after this war is over. They cannot allow for Russia to hold the nuclear blackmail over them again. What will this mean for Europe and Asia that the largest country in Europe possesses also its largest and most competent army AND nuclear weapons?

There are going to be second order effects to this war I don't think anyone is fully aware of. Fukuyama is a faggot. History is not over. At all.

 

[recailskender]

Apparently Ukrainians have been using Wagner corpses as pavement for roads, fucked up shit.

why won't russians retrieve the bodies of their elite troops? Don't they have regards for their own comrades?

 

[AnonymousKot]

Apparently Ukrainians have been using Wagner corpses as pavement for roads, fucked up shit.

why won't russians retrieve the bodies of their elite troops? Don't they have regards for their own comrades?

Where were you the past few months, abandoned soldiers have been happening from the supposed feint to kiev to kharkiv and now kherson

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Apparently Ukrainians have been using Wagner corpses as pavement for roads, fucked up shit.

why won't russians retrieve the bodies of their elite troops? Don't they have regards for their own comrades?

Because Russia needs to at least pretend that Wagner isn't directly affiliated with them, it doesn't matter if it's super transparent and PMCs are supposed to be illegal in Russia, as long as they take the barest minimum of measures they can pretend Wagner isn't just an arm of the armed forces.

 

[NSJAP]

 

[mindlessobserver]

Because Russia needs to at least pretend that Wagner isn't directly affiliated with them, it doesn't matter if it's super transparent and PMCs are supposed to be illegal in Russia, as long as they take the barest minimum of measures they can pretend Wagner isn't just an arm of the armed forces.

Worse, what Russia did with those Wagner penal legions around Bakhmut probably doesn't qualify as a war crime, but it damn well should have. Those poor fools didn't stand a chance.