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[verissimus]

Who did?

An old member before your time.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

Trump reads like a mad retard here. Half expect him to go off on Youngkin is a bastard bloody bitch for not responding.

I expect both Youngkin and Desantis to continue ignoring his tantrums. If Trump runs again and the Republicans actually rally around a mainstream candidate this time instead of splitting the field like in 2016, this childish shit it going to help coast Trump to an easy loss. At this point I'm personally completely over entertaining his lashing out at everything that remotely challenges him, and I expect more people will be too.

You‘re tired of the media talking about Trump “lashing out”. He is firing some shots across the bow, but he isn’t going all in. The media circus is finally getting to you, it is wearing us all down.

Frankly, this situation destroys the notion that you need to debate to be seen as a serious candidate.

What was it? That independents hate a candidate who won't debate? I am pretty sure I've seen that argument advanced on this very website.

Debating is the hard proof that you can actually think on your feet and be fit to run. What you’re seeing is a side effect of Biden lowering the bar for his voter base. Now Dems don’t need to show up because their President didn’t show up unless he was forced to.

 

[Vic Smackey]

An old member before your time.

I joined this forum back in the immediate aftermath of the 2020 election. My old username was Mr Cuddles but after this website got fucked over I had to ask Null for an invite as I didn't follow his advice about making sure I had access to my burner email. If its HK-47 you guys are on about I remember him, he was the old mod and came up with the theory that Dems never really won popular votes and just frauded their way in. If it is someone else and earlier you're right I might not know of them.

Frankly, it would be embarrassing if HK-47 left because he felt like he had been shown up by how things panned out. Those events shook me deeply. I don't think many (if any) people expected to transpire what eventually did. Some people learned from that and predicted 2022 would go the same way ( they were right). I thought there would be something off but nowhere near as bad as it is, I was wrong. My opinion of @Gehenna hasn't changed much as a result of this election because I appreciate that 1) he has called a lot of things correctly , 2) he's (probably) drawing off his playbook built from his life's experience it's just a shame that the world he's in now is very different from the one he spent most of his life in and 3) I never really put total stock into one person's view.

Was thinking about making this a DM but thought it's probably best to let everyone know at once instead.

 

[Aidan]

Ted Cruz is basically someone who thinks he is equal to Mitch in cunning and ruthlessness, but in truth is a bumbling fool who's fallen upward career-wise and who vastly overestimates how smart he is and would be utterly exposed as such if he took over.

Cruz may be their best bet, he is actually extremely well versed in Constitutional law so probably can figure out the arcane arts of The Senate with time. Cruz may talk funny and be cringe but he isn't as rarded as he seems, which I was surprised to learn when looking into him in 2016.
Keep him out of the white house

 

[Random Internet Person]

No it isn't. There was no proof and a great deal of speculation.

At the very least, it offers a layman’s explanation of money laundering. All that’s left is proof the money going into Ukraine was obtained illegally.

 

[teriyakiburns]

he isn't as rarded as he seems, which I was surprised to learn when looking into him in 2016.

Like I said at the time, the only known case of a pod person turning into a real human. He turned back again later, though.

At the very least, it offers a layman’s explanation of money laundering. All that’s left is proof the money going into Ukraine was obtained illegally.

The problem is, once you consider how much money the democrats were handing themselves in the actual bills, it stops making sense. Billions were allocated for Democrat favoured groups and causes. There were too many steps for a relatively paltry amount.

All the evidence that exists is an article saying "might" "maybe" "seems" and using all of the usual journoscum tactics to create the impression of connection where non exists. Journoscum don't suddenly become based just because they happen to agree with you.

 

[Vic Smackey]

The problem is, once you consider how much money the democrats were handing themselves in the actual bills, it stops making sense. Billions were allocated for Democrat favoured groups and causes. There were too many steps for a relatively paltry amount.

All the evidence that exists is an article saying "might" "maybe" "seems" and using all of the usual journoscum tactics to create the impression of connection where non exists. Journoscum don't suddenly become based just because they happen to agree with you.

You are right that a lot of funds came through the bills passed through the house and senate but those were quite easy to detect at the time and we were doing that. If Gehenna was roughly right about the cost for the original steal the Dems needed billions, not millions. Now FTX is short just shy of 10billion dollars and only 4 billion of that was "loaned" out to Almatec research. What I think a lot of us would like to know is where a) those funds originally came from and b) where did that money go? No one is too fussed about the 40million SBF personally donated we (well me at least) are thinking this was the Zuckerbucks 2.0 which I recall was 400million from the man himself alone.

Edit: This is a decent explanation worth at least some time exploring and yes it is perfectly possible that Zelensky was using FTX as a medium for kickbacks in exchange for support regardless of the morality of the Ukraine/Russia conflict.

 

[babadook]

Some people have a bad habit over here of following political "sages."

Remember HK-47? How he absconded pretty quickly after the 2020 election, all the Durham probe he was hyping out ended up coming to naught, etc?

Speaking of which, where did he go? I miss him

 

[Puff]

You are right that a lot of funds came through the bills passed through the house and senate but those were quite easy to detect at the time and we were doing that. If Gehenna was roughly right about the cost for the original steal the Dems needed billions, not millions. Now FTX is short just shy of 10billion dollars and only 4 billion of that was "loaned" out to Almatec research. What I think a lot of us would like to know is where a) those funds originally came from and b) where did that money go? No one is too fussed about the 40million SBF personally donated we (well me at least) are thinking this was the Zuckerbucks 2.0 which I recall was 400million from the man himself alone.

Edit: This is a decent explanation worth at least some time exploring and yes it is perfectly possible that Zelensky was using FTX as a medium for kickbacks in exchange for support regardless of the morality of the Ukraine/Russia conflict.

People seem to be forgetting the fraud wasn't nearly as widespread this time around either and the GOP failed to fund many competitive candidates.

 

[DicksOutForKiwigglers]

With

With the results today, 221 is the probable pickup in the House. It is going to make McCarthy's life hell trying to become Speaker, he will need to bend over for some Democrats, but he is all for that.

I wouldn't be so sure. With the way the elections are going, I'm convinced a deal was struck for Republicans to take the House and for Democrats to keep the Senate. McCarthy wanted his just dues because he is a good uniparty shill and won't accept having the House stolen from his clutches. So, the reason the Republicans are taking the House currently is probably because McCarthy more than anything else.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Good luck with that

 

[the fall of man]

People seem to be forgetting the fraud wasn't nearly as widespread this time around either and the GOP failed to fund many competitive candidates.

Largely this.

The vote drops in Arizona show that 290k election day ballots were dropped off, which "blindsided" the election counters (x to doubt here). The assumptions are that Republicans, deeply distrustful of the counters, wouldn't choose to walk into a voting center and then just drop off a ballot.

Except there were difficulties on election day, and people are lazy. Personally, because my wife worked to count votes in 2020, I believe my mail in vote in California counts (and if there were to be fraud, it wouldn't be from dumping my vote, but from manufacturing new ones).

The results of our midterms in deep blue Santa Clara county were about 2:1 in favor of Democrats, as opposed to 4:1 in 2020. This is progress, from my point of view. No way Silicon Valley swings red. But a change like that over two years is encouraging. I hoped for a red majority in both House and Senate, but the market had a Republican house and Democrat senate priced in from the beginning, and it looks like what we're gonna get. Follow the money, etc.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Is it really?

 

[LurkTrawl]

It’s honestly just a bad cope. Democrats took over Congress in 2006 and when the Great Recession hit in 2008, the Republicans were on the hook for it. This whole “this loss is ackchually a win!” is a pathetic sight to behold. It’s actually worse because everyone knows things are coming off the rails and the lack of a Republican sweep means the overall confidence level in their leadership is low, which means when it does actually happen, people aren’t going to turn to Republicans.

Who was president in 2006 again? Oh, right...

And at this point people not turning to republicans being viewed as a bad thing is just laughable. Seems pretty apparent by this point that the GOP isn't going to accept being rolled over to the extent it'd rather die off than be a party of the people.

Some people have a bad habit over here of following political "sages."

Remember HK-47? How he absconded pretty quickly after the 2020 election, all the Durham probe he was hyping out ended up coming to naught, etc?

I haven't gotten to say it yet, but, I told you so. I've been saying since the 2020 election that it didn't take nor was a massive conspiracy. Stand Alone Complexes (not the anime) exist. The concept of a serendipitous conspiracy, and the concept of individual cells acting in concert without knowledge of each other's existence exists. There's no logical reason to assume that money is ever the issue with something like voter fraud when there's plenty of assholes who'd do it for free to be on "the right side of history".

 

[Evilronald]

A big part of the problem the republicans had is that they got arrogant and lazy. They didn’t adapt to mail-in voting, their messaging was shit, and they underestimated the impact of retarded social issues. What were the republicans offering? How was it different than the democrats?

They sell us out to Ukraine, they fund races against other republicans, and they attack their own voters. They use the same stupid talking points like they matter. Trump was partly responsible too because he has to make everything about him and 2024 rather than supporting candidates everywhere and holding rallies. With how close it is right now for Lake, he is a moron for not doing everything he could for her. She’s a huge supporter of his and if Hobbs wins there will be even more fuckery in the 2024 election than 2020. There was a chance to kill mail-in voting in AZ and now that may never change.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

Wait,

I mentioned this a couple of pages back, but in general the GOP has NO ONE who can really replace Mitch and provide the same level of Machievillian genius and ruthlessness Cocaine Mitch displays on a regular basis.

Rand is an unofficial outcast among the GOP elite and has no real power or pull and be an empty suit leader, who no one would respect and have zero power to enforce his will and keep the rest of the GOP Senators in line.

Ted Cruz is basically someone who thinks he is equal to Mitch in cunning and ruthlessness, but in truth is a bumbling fool who's fallen upward career-wise and who vastly overestimates how smart he is and would be utterly exposed as such if he took over.

Lindsay Graham is a quisling who has no spine and would be a bigger fuck up than Cruz, as he would be a cuckservative supreme if given a chance.

Finally, Dan Crenshaw is an even bigger quisling cuckservative, made worse by the fact that he's still a relative rookie Senator (meaning he has very little power or influence) and worse, has an ego where he's been told that he's the second coming of John McCain.

Crenshaw is a Senator? I thought he was a House Rep?

 

[mandatorylurk]

McCarthy as speaker, whatever. He's going to be mocked no matter what and that's fine just to take the slings and arrows. But Tom Emmers cannot be WHIP, he is the one directly responsible for the failings in padding the numbers for the house. Zeldin deserves to be WHIP or majority leader.

Elise Stefanik was repeatedly mocked by Con Inc. for being a moderate republican who kissed Trump's ass but when she took over Lez Cheney's spot she did the right things and thanks to her and Lee Zeldin they flipped enough seats in NY to win the house. This goes back to my feelings that I'd rather have someone who lines up with me 70% of the time do whatever they can to win those things 100% as opposed to someone who I agree with 100% of the time only wanting to fight 70%.

edit: and someone should hire Scott Pressler to show how to canvas and harvest ballots, this is key to win back a state or two to remove no excuse mail in voting

 

[Scale Smerch]

Wait,

Crenshaw is a Senator? I thought he was a House Rep?

He's a House Rep, though wouldn't be surprising if the little Quisling tried to angle for a higher office in the near future.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Kinzinger is just a disgusting dwarf of a man who is desperate to remain at the cummies table, there is going to be such a karmic blowback everyone around him should steer clear. The man who quit being a congressman because he couldn't win in the new districts is going to say he's a winner, what a faggot.

 

[Evilronald]

The reason people didn’t want to vote for the republicans is that these morons attacked the message rather than the messenger. They torched the entire election and lost a massive amount of seats they should have won to sabotage trump when this idiot is sabotaging himself by attacking Desantis. The reason I liked trump from the beginning is because of how much the establishment hated him and they’re just making it more likely he’ll make a comeback. It’s like both parties are run by fucking retards so far up their own ass they don’t understand common sense anymore.

All the republicans had to run on was “everything has gone to shit since Biden was in charge and here’s why.” Instead Lindsey Graham thinks it’s a great idea to introduce a nationwide abortion ban in the middle of the election to help democrats. This country is like a plane that has been hijacked and on fire with an insane tranny in the cockpit and we have two republicans fighting eachother rather than trying to storm the cockpit and land the plane. I didn’t get the sense from republicans just how important it was to vote or why things are bad. It was the same old trope.