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[SBG]

Something I can’t figure out because I’m genuinely retarded and have a terminal brain disease is whether or not this business about FTX and the news coming out on it is good for our side or not.

FTX being a massive Ponzi scheme where the lead guy was funneling money to Democrats could potentially be good for Republicans. It'd be yet another example of corrupt businessmen being in bed with the Democrats in the hopes of friendly regulations being instituted for them.

But some people are trying to come up with weird theories of how this FTX was a front to funnel money into Ukraine that'd funnel money into FTX to then funnel money into Democrats' campaigns.

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They're basing this on Ukraine having a crypto wallet that people could send donations to. Which is retarded.

If it was some Ukrainian billionaire invested in FTX or something then it'd make a tiny bit more sense, but this is turning what should be a black eye for the Dems into a dumb conspiracy theory.

Curiously, the Ukrainian government launched a cryptocurrency donation website in March that was backed by FTX.

CoinDesk reported in March, "'Aid for Ukraine,' which has the backing of crypto exchange FTX, staking platform Everstake, and Ukraine’s Kuna exchange, will route donated crypto to the National Bank of Ukraine, Everstake’s Head of Growth Vlad Likhuta told CoinDesk. Ukraine’s crypto-savvy Ministry of Digital Transformation is also involved."

An Everstake press release stated, "Aid For Ukraine is cooperating with the cryptocurrency exchange FTX which converts crypto funds received into fiat and sends the donations to the National Bank of Ukraine. This marks the first-ever instance of a cryptocurrency exchange directly cooperating with a public financial entity to provide a conduit for crypto donations. Earlier this month, FTX already converted $1 million worth of SOL and transferred it to the National Bank of Ukraine."

 

[Oxous]

Zeldin deserves to be WHIP or majority leader.

Zeldin actually appears to be interested in becoming the RNC chair, according to one of his advisors. It's early stages though so don't assume he'll run for it.

“He has received calls from around the country,” John Brabender said Sunday. “It’s likely that he will at least explore it. … He’s fielding calls, talking to people, listening to them, but it has not gone beyond that.”

 

[LurkTrawl]

I mentioned this a couple of pages back, but in general the GOP has NO ONE who can really replace Mitch and provide the same level of Machievillian genius and ruthlessness Cocaine Mitch displays on a regular basis.

Which he puts to excellent use to make sure the establishment continues to have an iron-fisted reign over the GOP.

Who's the guy who just fucked the GOP in the last election again?

Real issue is Cocaine Mitch fucking over the entire GOP for the GOP Primary in Alaska.

Thanks a lot Mitch....

If Cocaine Mitch isn't removed, the Republicans will lose Georgia and 2024 will be a fuckup repeat.

Mitch McConnell provided no platform, bitched about and sabotaged every politician that threatened his power, wasted money in republican-on-republican in-fighting in Alaska to preserve Lisa Murkowski and could win up losing net seats in the senate when the 2018 midterms actually gained seats for the Republicans. Its an unreal bad sabotage of a midterm to fuck with Donald Trump and nationalist populism/MAGA, makes 2018 look like 2010.

Mitch McConnell who pretty much pissed away chances of Senate control because he wanted to ban all MAGA candidates getting in.

Cocaine Mitch and the RINOs sabotaging the GOP for the midterms to own Trump.

Has to be the highest level of TDS reached so far.

Fuck all the economic and social issues plaguing America, destroy Orange Man to regain our crumbling fiefdoms as it was before Trump.

This mentality is the reason these niggers are still in the GOP. It's the reason they've been in office for, fucking, forever.

At some point the reality needs to hit that someone being useful does not mean that they're useful to you even if sometimes their actions and motivations align with yours. How many times does this asshole need to make it obvious that he's a neocon establishment asshole on the same level as Biden before republicans/conservatives realize it's not worth keeping him around when he's this fucking consistently deleterious.

 

[Jaimas]

MFW we get a KF lolcow OP in a KF thread that isn't a lolcow thread involving the catalyst which sparked a lolcow renaissance.

I only knew him to the extent he was some retard in the Ralpasphere, which makes it even funnier knowing that circle cozied up to him AFTER he already revealed his personality.

CON was one of the groups that essentially mainlined the deplatforming technique long before it became as known as it is now. The very tactics that have been used against the Farms for the last few years? They're all tactics that CON used against GG-supporting platforms first, and Cheong helped them do it. 8chan's demonetization happened because of a very obvious honeypot thread that they subsequently reported en masse, and Cheong helped signal boost. They got patreons of prominent GG supporters taken down, and Cheong was happy about that, too. Cheong was there in chat while Jake Alley said this shit, and fucking agreed with it:

My ideal endgame pretty much goes like this: Chobitcoin, Brennan, and Roguestar in prison. Cernovich disbarred. TFYC... given whatever treatment you get in Canada for massive fraud. Lianna properly exposed and never able to find honest work again. The people doing this professionally cut off and at LEAST a big rattled by investigations. Rank and file GGers, scared straight from seeing all that."

While Chungus would go on to apologize for it, he never really did more than that and CON was already fracturing when he did it. He didn't really sacrifice anything or do much to make amends, and after the shit he did, I'm of the belief he should have at least dropped the reciepts as part of the bargain. He's always been a histrionic prick though and people keep confusing him with Arthur Chu because they're both unabashed racists and the closest thing to intellectuals Anti-GG had (draw your own conclusions).

Ralph cozying up to him is fucking hilarious on several levels; Cheong actively called for his deplatforming back when CON was in full swing and Ralph performed bigger offensives against GG than pretty much any group outside CON because he wanted GG to focus more on attacking the SJW menace rather than focus on boycotts and activism campaigns. Ralph, and by proxy, the shit that KOP got involved with, are a big reason that KIA wound up the way it did. It's like retards embracing retards in this bizarre katamari of conflicted loyalties that would make no sense in any logical world, but makes complete sense within the brain damage that is Ralph's network of degenerates.

 

[Evilronald]

A big problem for republicans right now is that there simply aren’t any credible organizations or leaders out there that people can volunteer for or work with. It’s all fucking grifters trying to get rich being part of conservative inc. The corporatists just can’t figure out that destroying this country for profits by grifting off the government is not a great long term strategy. You’ll either have some socialist government that wrecks their business or they’ll cause the whole system to collapse. They need to figure out that the populist republicans are the best chance they have to keep some of their money.

 

[Sithis]

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1592183878642434048

Same vibes tbh

 

[LurkTrawl]

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Same vibes tbh

Well, seeing as they have a tendency to lie about shit...

 

[MrJokerRager]

I really don't understand some of the conservatives dismissing the cheating when they start being mad at "shit candidates".

Even if the GOP miraculously got the "best" candidates endorsed by Jesus, well it doesn't matter when they get cheated out.

The cheating can't be ignored to any degree but these lot are fine with tolerating a bare minimum of it, when the real goal should be minimizing it as much as possible.

As far as "shit" candidates go, Democrats ran morons not just in PA but other races, and they won.

And I remember some shitting on Boebert iirc in this thread or the happenings thread, before she finally is about to win her race.

AZ last night had a house race go from leaning Democrat to Republican leading now. It will be sending majority Republican of House members and its state legislature is majority R as well.

For them to have 2 Democrat senators and a potential Democrat Governor and SOS is just out of the norm for Western states.

Its like California or Oregon voting for progtards at the state level, but sending people like Josh Hawley and Rand Paul to the US Senate.

I mean either there is fraud in Arizona or plenty of split ticket voting retards or both in that state, because its just out of the norm compared to other states West of the Mississippi.

Well this was Mark Levin's thoughts on stuff last night.

I didn't know this was done in 2010 as well with the Tea Party.

 

[SBG]

A big problem for republicans right now is that there simply aren’t any credible organizations or leaders out there that people can volunteer for or work with. It’s all fucking grifters trying to get rich being part of conservative inc. The corporatists just can’t figure out that destroying this country for profits by grifting off the government is not a great long term strategy. You’ll either have some socialist government that wrecks their business or they’ll cause the whole system to collapse. They need to figure out that the populist republicans are the best chance they have to keep some of their money.

Back in 2017 there were various protests organized at airports. They were protesting immigration bans against terrorist countries.

One aspect that didn't get a ton of attention was the food that people (or more likely groups) sent there to feed those wanting to protest. There was pizza, BBQ, burgers, and just all sorts of stuff sent over. It's not really an unusual thing for organizations to help do that so that more people come out and you can get some photos of all those people there to 'protest'.

The people that work as community organizers to help organize such things can make a decent living. It can be considered a grift, but it works.

I've never seen anything similar from people on the right. Instead the grifters for the right want to be talking heads on TV, far removed from anything happening on the ground in any state. Seems like a massively less competent grift in comparison to the left's where they're setting up pizza parties or making sure their useful figures like David Hogg can get speaking fees to help keep up his propaganda.

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Competent grifting could help immensely.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Back in 2017 there were various protests organized at airports. They were protesting immigration bans against terrorist countries.

One aspect that didn't get a ton of attention was the food that people (or more likely groups) sent there to feed those wanting to protest. There was pizza, BBQ, burgers, and just all sorts of stuff sent over. It's not really an unusual thing for organizations to help do that so that more people come out and you can get some photos of all those people there to 'protest'.

The people that work as community organizers to help organize such things can make a decent living. It can be considered a grift, but it works.

I've never seen anything similar from people on the right. Instead the grifters for the right want to be talking heads on TV, far removed from anything happening on the ground in any state. Seems like a massively less competent grift in comparison to the left's where they're setting up pizza parties or making sure their useful figures like David Hogg can get speaking fees to help keep up his propaganda.

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Competent grifting could help immensely.

To add to those grifters, there is also low civic participation in the electoral process and state and local governments in general as well from conservatives.

Its like for example Turkey, setting aside its fucked elections, have the ballot counting and setting up the election booths done and ran by infidels.

Because that is the situation even in deep red states.

 

[HandsomeDan]

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Oh ok, good then. I was starting to get worried about another major conflict on the horizon. I see now I was foolish to be afraid about this.

 

[Breadbassket]

To add to those grifters, there is also low civic participation in the electoral process and state and local governments in general as well from conservatives.

Its like for example Turkey, setting aside its fucked elections, have the ballot counting and setting up the election booths done and ran by infidels.

Because that is the situation even in deep red states.

The American right currently seems to have a general problem with grassroots activism and community engagement when it comes to things to like starting protests. I know a classic response to this is "the conservatives are too busy working to protest" but there has to be more nuance to it then that. As for possible reasons why, are people afraid of being publicly seen as conservative, too busy, or do they think someone else will do it?

 

[Meat Target]

Oh ok, good then. I was starting to get worried about another major conflict on the horizon. I see now I was foolish to be afraid about this.

Peace For Our Time = Baizuo Biden continues to pimp us out to Peking.

The American right currently seems to have a general problem with grassroots activism and community engagement when it comes to things to like starting protests. I know a classic response to this is "the conservatives are too busy working to protest" but there has to be more nuance to it then that. As for possible reasons why, are people afraid of being publicly seen as conservative, too busy, or do they think someone else will do it?

There's those things, and there's also glowies who work to sabotage and discredit conservatives from within.

 

[MrJokerRager]

The American right currently seems to have a general problem with grassroots activism and community engagement when it comes to things to like starting protests. I know a classic response to this is "the conservatives are too busy working to protest" but there has to be more nuance to it then that. As for possible reasons why, are people afraid of being publicly seen as conservative, too busy, or do they think someone else will do it?

I do love that boomer meme, I used to hear that a lot prior to the 2020 election night dramatics.

What good did that meme do when the liberals and progtards shut "work" down using the police in some cases and benefited the laptop caste even more, for boomers who probably even now believe in meme even now.

That meme is part of the reason that election day is still not a holiday.

My view is if conservative or right wingers in other nations outside the West can do it, if can be done here.

Whenever it comes to 2A rights, its always "muh court costs" and for politics, its always that meme when the majority of white collar workers overall donate to the Democratic Party.

At this point, what are they working for?

 

[RichardMongler]

There's those things, and there's also glowies who work to sabotage and discredit conservatives from within.

Let's not forget the droves of militant leftists ginned up on their own ideology who treat GOP activists and normie Republican voters identically to open Fascists and White Nationalists. They consequently create security hazards and do everything in their power to ruin the lives of those who engage in right-wing activism especially if it involves White advocacy, immigration restriction and so on. Not saying open WNs can't do these things safely (look at what the National Justice Party has been doing in the Midwest), but it's intensely fraught with danger whereas the left can effectively go out and commit crimes with virtually no lasting consequences.

 

[mold]

A big problem for republicans right now is that there simply aren’t any credible organizations or leaders out there that people can volunteer for or work with. It’s all fucking grifters trying to get rich being part of conservative inc.

I don't know about the rest of the country but where I am grifters would be an improvement.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

An update

 

[SBG]

The American right currently seems to have a general problem with grassroots activism and community engagement when it comes to things to like starting protests. I know a classic response to this is "the conservatives are too busy working to protest" but there has to be more nuance to it then that. As for possible reasons why, are people afraid of being publicly seen as conservative, too busy, or do they think someone else will do it?

I think there are plenty of right wing teenagers and twenty somethings with nothing better to do than go out and protest.

I think the problem is effective protests are run in such a way that it can seem dishonest or like it's done by grifters. Like it's essential to have someone at a protest with cameras to get some good snapshots. Many have seen those pictures of people that would be standing in front of a lineup of police looking all defiant. And those are gotten by someone running (or just walking up) to the police lineup while a well place photographer gets the prized picture at which point they can then leave.

If you don't do anything dishonest as far as trying to craft a narrative and getting photographers or videographers involved, then you end up getting no attention with your protest and it never gets your movement any steam.

 

[Breadbassket]

Let's not forget the droves of militant leftists ginned up on their own ideology who treat GOP activists and normie Republican voters identically to open Fascists and White Nationalists. They consequently create security hazards and do everything in their power to ruin the lives of those who engage in right-wing activism especially if it involves White advocacy, immigration restriction and so on. Not saying open WNs can't do these things safely (look at what the National Justice Party has been doing in the Midwest), but it's intensely fraught with danger whereas the left can effectively go out and commit crimes with virtually no lasting consequences.

The militant left being a real threat or not from what I gather depends on a state being Republican or Democrat in terms of who controls it. I am lead to believe if your right-leaning and protest in somewhere like say in the Pacific Northwest there is a real chance they may try to do something. By comparison I'm not sure if they could get away with much in a legal sense in a state such as Mississippi for example.

As for a practical way to counter leftist radicals in their own domain, the only real idea that comes to mind is to adopt some of the camouflage tactics of the Autonomous Nationalists in Europe. Basically they copied the organizational concepts of Antifa such as autonomous activism, black bloc demonstration tactics and even elements of their clothing.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

Arizona has had SEVERAL audits for 2020, including the Cyber Ninja audit, and EACH AUDIT said it was a legit election.

Feel free to prove me wrong.

The Cyber Ninja audit, IIRC, showed that there were potentially enough illegal votes to exceed the margin of victory. However, you need to take said ballots to a courthouse. They did say that the recount lined up, which means that at the very least numbers weren’t made up.

We have a thread here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/maric...-arizona-senate-in-phoenix-az-9-24-21.100920/

If everything was later proven to be above board well after this news, feel free to post it. I am just saying that this info never hit the courthouse, which is a problem.


On another note there is a reason to never go back and actually check for fraud: The Jan. 6th “riot”. If a state puts a fraud case in court and they rule that the Dems did in fact cheat the Presidential election, even in only one state, then the J6’ers have a MUCH higher chance of being allowed to walk instead of waiting their turn for trials. After all, Congress would have literally let a crime happen in this scenario.