US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

This is something few people in the MAGA set want to admit: most of the MAGA candidates are just awful.

All of the candidates are awful. Trump is great because he is funny and because he fucks up the eatablishment grift.

That's all he ever was. There are no more Ron Pauls. You can only vote for evil or chaos. I choose chaos.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Gay and Cuck are fretting on the radio now saying it’s too early to announce and they’re going to indict Trump and that will scare independents away it’s all over if Trump is the nominee, this is greater panicking than in 2015.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

• Florida is a Republican lock for the foreseeable future.

^This is where it all falls down. If DeSantis goes for the Presidential nom in 2024, who's gonna take his place? Unless he's secretly preparing an heir to the GOP Floridian throne under our noses, Florida is gonna be left wide open for the Dems, and they WILL pounce. And like other people have stated, you can't win the White House without Florida.

 

[Bugman's Burden]

Zoomer here. At least millennials had a good, long taste of prosperity, a true sense of colorblindness, and a belief in America as a good country. We got a fleeting glimpse of the former but Orange Man was the one to bring it about, so of course, it had to go. Which lead to the 2020 election, which blew the shit out of the latter. And wokeism, which killed colorblindness, came about because Occupy Wall Street scared the shit out of the elites. Fuck millennials (the coomer/participation trophy generation) and boomers (old farts who think what worked for them will work for everyone else) for ruining everything for us.

Trumpy bear isn't going to save you. "Colorblindness" wasn't really a thing except on feelgood TV shows -- and there's even a 2005 episode of The Office where a diversity coach says that 'not seeing race' is just being ignorant. If you want to sit online and blame problems on other generations, or capitalism, or wokeism go right ahead. Just know that it reflects poorly on you and most successful people don't engage in that sort of behavior very much. And yes, it's still very possible to be successful. If you disagree, you sound a lot like a millennials would after the 2007 financial crisis.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Trumpy bear isn't going to save you. "Colorblindness" wasn't really a thing except on feelgood TV shows -- and there's even a 2005 episode of The Office where a diversity coach says that 'not seeing race' is just being ignorant. If you want to sit online and blame problems on other generations, or capitalism, or wokeism go right ahead. Just know that it reflects poorly on you and most successful people don't engage in that sort of behavior very much. And yes, it's still very possible to be successful. If you disagree, you sound a lot like a millennials would after the 2007 financial crisis.

I don't disagree that it's possible to be successful (hell, without PLing too much, you could argue I'm a case study for success through hard work). But the problem is, there are too many of us who'd prefer just to be lazy asses and just coom to their porno all day. And yes, a lot of that is down to internal factors. But you cannot sit there and say that the indoctrination factory that is modern education, or the 24/7 access to social media (AKA: more propaganda) did not have at least SOME part in it.

 

[Yankee Shogun]

Red waves don't exist, lmao.
Never will.

When the Democrats take the House but not the Senate, its a "blue wave"

When the Republicans take the House but not the Senate, its "underwhelming performance"

 

[Meat Target]

^This is where it all falls down. If DeSantis goes for the Presidential nom in 2024, who's gonna take his place? Unless he's secretly preparing an heir to the GOP Floridian throne under our noses

Why wouldn't he?

He could be, I won't say for sure because hell if I know. It's way too early to speculate on such things, let alone for Ron to announce it.

Florida is gonna be left wide open for the Dems, and they WILL pounce.

Maybe this could be due to DeSantis having down-ballot clout, but R's won bigly in Florida this year. They now have a supermajority in the state legislature. It's the new Texas.

And like other people have stated, you can't win the White House without Florida.

Biden did, legitimately or otherwise.

At any rate, I will get behind whomever gets the nomination. Let the party base decide. The Uniparty was to divide-and-conquer MAGA. Don't let it happen.

 

[WeDon'tNeedToWhisper]

Trumpy bear isn't going to save you. "Colorblindness" wasn't really a thing except on feelgood TV shows -- and there's even a 2005 episode of The Office where a diversity coach says that 'not seeing race' is just being ignorant. If you want to sit online and blame problems on other generations, or capitalism, or wokeism go right ahead. Just know that it reflects poorly on you and most successful people don't engage in that sort of behavior very much. And yes, it's still very possible to be successful. If you disagree, you sound a lot like a millennials would after the 2007 financial crisis.

Stop with the second hand embarrassment.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

When the Democrats take the House but not the Senate, its a "blue wave"

When the Republicans take the House but not the Senate, its "underwhelming performance"

Didn't somebody ITT say that the right-wing has an "all-or-nothing" mentality? Where if they get anything less than exactly what they're aiming for, it's an "unmitigated failure"?

 

[Kane Lives]

When the Democrats take the House but not the Senate, its a "blue wave"

When the Republicans take the House but not the Senate, its "underwhelming performance"

To be fair, context matters here. In a year where crime runs rampant, inflation is (starting to) runaway, coming off lockdowns that studies are starting to show to be unjustified, and the POTUS dementia is on full display, anything less than a full sweep should have been unthinkable.

But maybe I'm overestimating the impact of the last two years on Americans. It is still a very wealthy country.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Trump blamed Russia for the missile in Poland yesterday, though I guess his son will correct him on that.

 

[Non-breath oblige]

When peeps can't buy food, pay their mortgage/rent, and are paying $10 for a gallon of gas or diesel, shit gonna get real in a hurry. Not even going to speculate on a foreign conflict breaking out, but that would be icing on Trump's cake and his election chances.

After these elections, I'm convinced half the country would rather go full on Jonestown than even dare thinking of voting for the Orange man.

 

[The Ugly One]

This is something few people in the MAGA set want to admit: most of the MAGA candidates are just awful. Kari Lake likes bashing the media but does she have any kind of skill set to govern Arizona? Of course not, so she’ll just bring on a bunch of AZ GOP people and you get another Doug Ducey term effectively. That’s what happened with Trump where he had to bring on swamp creatures nobody liked such as John Bolton. Having no experience but claiming you’ll tell it like is does not cut it with runaway inflation, record high immigration, severe water shortages in Arizona, etc. I’m focusing on Lake just as an example but she can be swapped out for the vast majority of MAGA candidates.

The Republican plan for inflation is apparently to print unlimited money and send it to Ukraine, I guess.

 

[The Ugly One]

This means fuck all if vote counting is still getting fucked with in 2 years though. Venezuela is pretty much hell on earth and the same retards are still at the wheel. Muts at least have guns but if we are already talking of going there then we already accepted that a by the book approach is off the table.

Venezuelans are retards who think socialism is failing because they're not socialisting hard enough, and the usual "wreckers and saboteurs" nonsense.

 

[Meat Target]

Didn't somebody ITT say that the right-wing has an "all-or-nothing" mentality? Where if they get anything less than exactly what they're aiming for, it's an "unmitigated failure"?

I wouldn't say that's exclusive to the Right. It's a product of our time.

I mentioned in the Deep Thoughts thread on dooming that much of it comes from wanting instant results. "This election is the MOST IMPORTANT OF OUR LIFETIMES! We need to secure a Thousand Year Reich now, or we're fucked!"

We need to regain a sense of long game. Re-learn to plant seeds that you will not see grow into trees.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

a true sense of colorblindness

It depended on where you lived, and even then, that went out the window once Obama was campaigning because people wouldn't shut up about him being black, which misses the whole goddamn point of being "colorblind". To this day, I wish I could just go back to believing skin color was just the result of being out in the sun for too long, but then I started to learn that ethnicity was much more complicated than just "skin color". I just want to be told interesting stories of the culture of where your family came from, I don't give a shit about what you look like.

and a belief in America as a good country

Again, it depended on where you lived and who raised you. When we went to Iraq, the rumblings about "Are we the baddies?" began and then when Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac kickstarted the recession, suddenly no one was feeling prosperous and good about it. Maybe the older Millennials had a taste of being able to forge one's own success, but more people in us two's age-ranges became disillusioned as we were starting to enter adulthood (teenage years for Zoomers) and suddenly shit was collapsing around us before we had a chance to prove ourselves. Most of us didn't come from well-off middle-class homes and shit for good opportunities, y'know? And college is a scam we still fell for because our parents thought college was still the same like how it was for them when that's not true.

At least I knew for a long time I was never going to see social security in my retirement because I had teachers mention it kinda flippantly (though this is not just because of the baby boomers as the government was tapping into it for years). I've never been a fan of money anyway, I just had to learn to accept this necessary evil simply because trade is not really a thing anymore, and it seems like the retirement age is just getting higher and higher. And then there's the housing market, though it looks like prices are actually going down so it may still be possible to get a house while you can, just as long as you don't live in a shithole city with ungodly cost of living.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Define zoomer. What year range is that? I'm in my 20s. I'm feeling the effects of the impending recession under this administration, especially after graduating from college.

"Oh no, that means I won't be able to purchase Sony/Apple product!" More like, I would barely be able to afford an apartment and buy food if prices continue to increase. Representation doesn't mean shit if I cannot support myself or ask questions without being labeled a bigot/racist/sexist.

I feel sorry for our future generation having to deal with social media influencers and butchered education system.

Late 90’s (‘95-2000) is the generally accepted border between Zoomer and Millenial. The distinction I personally find useful to make is that millennials are people who lived through the rise of the social media and smartphones, whereas zoomers never knew the world before social media.

 

[The Ugly One]

What makes being a Millennial special is that we were the last generation that didn't have to worry about some cross-dressing faggot assraping a girl in the bathroom and getting a medal from the adults for it.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

But you cannot sit there and say that the indoctrination factory that is modern education, or the 24/7 access to social media (AKA: more propaganda) did not have at least SOME part in it.

A lot of them can and will. For reasons that elude me, the last couple weeks have reawakened a horribly self-righteous streak that made the GOP insufferable for so long. If they want to deal with the doomer problem they need to reckon with its causes. My fear is that they’d rather pontificate.

 

[Meat Target]

Cocaine Mitch the Sonofabitch has been re-elected as Senate GOP leader. Natch.