Business Pixiv bans offensive art -- Including loli

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Furthermore, the rules or policies of Brand Protection for Card Networks transactions for content that is patently offensive, unethical, or promote criminal activity; such as, by way of example and not limitation:
・Sexual exploitation of a minor
・Incest
・Bestiality
・Rape (or any other non-consensual sexual behavior)
・Non-consensual mutilation of a person or body part
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2022年12月15日（木）に、ピクシブ株式会社が提供するサービス共通利用規約を改定いたします。 このたびの改定は、BOOTH、pixivFANBOX、pixivリクエスト機能など決済を伴う取引…

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[FunPosting101]

Is anyone in this thread actually dumb enough to think that you can actually stop horny teenagers from accessing porn by anything other than a totalitarian state that would trample on any and all constitutionally protected rights in the process that they could?

lol
lmao

Torrents exist you silly bastards, as do numerous sites that operate in nations that don't give one iota of a fuck about copyright law. Internet piracy is still the easiest thing in the world for people in developed or semi-developed nations to do.
You silly moral conservatives/tradcons/whatever aren't going to stop people from getting their porn and you are being useful idiots for the people who want to completely sanitize the mainstream internet when you support shit like this.

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

Sears catalogue underwear section.

This you, brother?

 

[Zero Day Defense]

you mean the one where you let your older brother or mate buy it,

Doesn't work if you're an only child/have no older homies.

dig into your parents stash,

Doesn't work if your parents don't have a stash in the first place because they have a pretty good marriage.

get it from a store that doesn't give a fuck,

Stores generally give a fuck.

steal it from a store that does

And get busted for shoplifting?

or just outright trade that shit in school?

And get busted for trading porn in school, before they tell your parents that you were trading porn in school?

Absolutely none of this has to do with the fact that there's no standardized functional effort to age restrict access to internet porn despite our restricting access to physical porn.

And look, you can come up with possibly a billion things that age verification beyond "ok, bucko, if you say you're 18, then you're 18" won't prevent, but mainly or even only having to worry about children getting access to loose Hustler mags is-- I repeat-- still magnitudes better than them getting exposed to thousands of hours of sissy hypno because they committed the sin of making a typo on Google.

Even the culture of having to hustle to see a nipple is categorically better than what we're dealing with in (CURRENT_YEAR + 8 ).

ffs what's next, banning underwear catalogues because they can swipe one from their mom if they want to squeeze one out?

The way things are going, those won't be an issue.

Is anyone in this thread actually dumb enough to think that you can actually stop horny teenagers from--

I talk about mitigation of access, and several people in this thread go into borderline hysterics about having to use a credit card for an industry that already has businesses requiring exactly that, doling out arguments with all the efficacy of throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

 

[FunPosting101]

Doesn't work if you're an only child/have no older homies

Doesn't work if your parents don't have a stash in the first place because they have a pretty good marriage.

Stores generally give a fuck.

And get busted for shoplifting?

And get busted for trading porn in school, before they tell your parents that you were trading porn in school?

Look, you can come up with possibly a billion things that age verification beyond "ok, bucko, if you say you're 18, then you're 18" won't prevent, but mainly or even only worrying about children getting access to loose Hustler mags is-- I repeat-- still magnitudes better than them getting exposed to thousands of hours of sissy hypno because they committed the sin of making a typo on Google.

Even the culture of having to hustle to see a nipple is categorically better than what we're dealing with in (CURRENT_YEAR + .


The way things are going, those won't be an issue.


I talk about mitigation of access, and several people in this thread go into borderline hysterics about having to use a credit card, doling out arguments with all the efficacy of throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

There wouldn't be any noticeable mitigation of access. Kids are incredibly tech-savvy these days when it comes to getting free shit.

 

[Starved Artist]

When they came for Loli, I didn't care because I wasn't a lolicon.
When they came for Furries, I celebrated because fuck those freaks.
Today. They came for my cartoon gore.

 

[NickDigger]

Love articles like this that draw out the faux tradcucks and nofap addicts. Guess they can't figure out why a place like this exists.

When they came for Furries, I celebrated because fuck those freaks.

Sadly a protected class now, as furniggers can go beyond illustrations.

Since this is a case about drawings the perverts involved will be scrutinized.

Also, based Mastercard #ACAB

 

[Zero Day Defense]

There wouldn't be any noticeable mitigation of access. Kids are incredibly tech-savvy these days when it comes to getting free shit.

Unlike you, kids are not going to uniformly become savvy enough to care about and figure out how to torrent. The principal appeal of tube sites is the near-zero commitment-- you don't have to download pictures and videos, you don't have to wait around for a video to load, you can preview what you're about to watch, and you can instantly erase the evidence of your visitations in 1-3 mouse clicks.

Shit, why bother with protesting the inclusion of how-to manuals to anal sex in school libraries? Why restrict distribution of physical pornography?We can't stop kids from fapping, after all. Can't stop them from smoking, either-- they can always just grab a cig from their dad or their friend, or they can just vape, so we might as well let them buy a pack of Black and Mild. Might as well let them buy liquor, too.

Why bother trying to protect children? Why bother considering it? We should just let them be preyed upon by perverse powers actively doing their damndest to hop them up on a multitude of mind and body-ruining drugs and lifestyles that'll render them into servile consumers and eromenoi before they're old enough to get a driver's license, talk less of buying a gun.

 

[FunPosting101]

Unlike you, kids are not going to uniformly become savvy enough to care about and figure out how to torrent.

You think it's just about torrents? lol You have literally no idea how easy it is to get "forbidden" material. There's all sorts of places where this stuff is posted; and in the unlikely event of all the tube sites needing credit cards, that knowledge will spread all over the place like wildfire. The only thing you'll cause is some mild frustration at most before the "coomer" hordes get their porn.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

You think it's just about torrents? lol You have literally no idea how easy it is to get "forbidden" material.

The point is to make it harder for them to get said material, since it's trivially easy for them to do so as is.

It's like you want kids to have porn addictions and want literally nothing to be done about it. "Oh, no, there's literally nothing that anybody can do! Nothing at all! They're not gonna stop at getting their fix, anyways!"

 

[FunPosting101]

The point is to make it harder for them to get said material, since it's trivially easy for them to do so as is.

It's like you want kids to have porn addictions and want literally nothing to be done about it. "Oh, no, there's literally nothing that anybody can do! Nothing at all! They're not gonna stop at getting their fix, anyways!"

The problem you think exists will not be solved by making it ever so slightly more difficult to get porn. Porn addiction isn't a thing any more than videogame addiction is(or any other enjoyable activity addiction is), either.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Porn addiction isn't a thing any more than videogame addiction is(or any other enjoyable activity addiction is), either.

Stop being retarded.

 

[FunPosting101]

Stop being retarded.

Right back at you, dude. What you call porn addiction is actually something being psychologically habit forming, and it applies to anything people enjoy.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

Is anyone in this thread actually dumb enough to think that you can actually stop horny teenagers from accessing porn by anything other than a totalitarian state that would trample on any and all constitutionally protected rights in the process that they could?

lol
lmao

Is anyone in this thread actually dumb enough to think that you can actually stop horny men from raping women by anything other than a totalitarian state that would trample on any and all constitutionally protected rights in the process that they could?

lol
lmao

Is anyone in this thread actually dumb enough to think that you can actually stop homicidal men from comitting murder by anything other than a totalitarian state that would trample on any and all constitutionally protected rights in the process that they could?

lol
lmao

Anarchists have got to be the most retarded """people""" on earth, its a wonder you dipshits can even tie your own shoelaces without help.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Love articles like this that draw out the faux tradcucks and nofap addicts.

wat

Right back at you, dude. What you call porn addiction is actually something being psychologically habit forming, and it applies to anything people enjoy.

Maybe but that still isn't an argument in defense of porn, just an explanation as to why people can become addicted to it.

 

[X Prime]

I don't even agree with ZDD's position, but FunPosting's argumentation is unfortunately very poor.

It's not addressing the fundamental argument.

 

[ロボ﹏§¤r﹏h¶rœ]

I would love the ban of all pornography from Pixiv. I just want to browse galleries of my favorite male characters without being forced to see disgusting, emasculating, gayassed fetish shit that ((conveniently)) gets passed the R18 filter.

The filter is only as good as people reporting the pics for being age-inappropriate.

 

[Lizard Pope]

None of that shit is being banned because it’s degenerate.
It’s being banned because it’s their degenerate shit to enjoy. These are the same pieces of shit that want your kids learning how to take it up the ass in grade school before an evening of twerking at a “family friendly” drag show.
They want to control who gets to look at this shit, they want it to be in some way they can make a greasy dollar (or two million) off of it while peddling Cuties in the theater.
Besides, I just drew my own when I was a kid.
But alas, feet are surprisingly difficult to draw. Where’s our parade?

 

[LurkTrawl]

If the feds wanted to, they could track your IRL purchases back to you, too-- with great ease, and without any of the provisions of the Patriot Act. Browsing tube sites on Incognito mode isn't protecting you from their surveillance, either. Any clearnet website with which you have a regularly used account already has your activity history that the feds can just subpoena if they wanted to.

"Since the feds can track you anyway with a subpoena we should make tracking software mandatory for everybody's computers" is an unbelievably shit take.

None of this changes the fact that the way we treat access to porn online is unjustifiably different from how we treat it IRL. The supposed "marked, serious difference" you point out with no elaboration doesn't actually weigh the difference of porn online versus porn offline, and why it's only the latter kind that should be freely accessible by children.

I'm sorry, I forgot the internet was the same as real life.

The serious difference is that you're holding a physical object, in a physical location. You're not this stupid and I'm certainly not making some kind of unique, revelatory point by saying this.

I already made the point that being able to use a credit card is enough to prove that you're an adult, and there are porn sites that already have a paywall that indirectly achieves the goal of age verification. You've presumed that age verification in this circumstance must mean that the government is performing it, but I never said that. It only has to involve porn sites being required by law to perform actual age verification.

Yeah but that shit's optional, for starters, and secondly again you're arguing for giving the government the right to, without a subpoena or any legal action, breach your 4th amendment rights even more than they already do by installing non-optional fucking spyware on your computer to monitor what websites you go to.

Because that's the only way such a law could possibly be enforced. And you know that.

After all, when you buy beer, the cashier checking your ID isn't an agent of the state. It's just that it's his ass if law enforcement has reason to snoop around his establishment and it's found out that he sold alcohol to a minor.

Yeah. In a physical location with an assumedly physical bottle of alcohol, as opposed to being asked for identification inside your own fucking house.

The reason that I or anybody else suggests age verification for internet porn is because there's already age verification for physical porn, because society at large ostensibly agrees that children shouldn't have access to porn at all. Is that "retard-proofing"? Is that enabling shitty parents to continue being shitty?

Yes it actually is. Are you telling me that you somehow believe children must be allowed unsupervised internet access? Are you saying people who bitch to the government about what media their kids interact with are correct in assuming that it's society's problem rather than their own as to who is responsible for their children? Are you saying that the government being capable of finding your search history with a warrant mind you somehow justifies implanting spyware on every computer in the U.S. to track people's website habits?

Nobody on earth has to let their child access the internet unsupervised. And because I know you're being that much of a disingenuous fuck about this I'll go ahead and inb4 the "well what if they have friends with cellphones!?" bullshit, if you're a parent you're also responsible for who you let your kids hang out with.

Absolutely none of this however has to do with the main, salient point that this kind of thinking is exactly why we have an overbearing, overarching, much, much too powerful federal government that consistently and constantly walks all over the constitution. These niggerish arguments are of the same species of hogwash that retards who put their personal feelings above reason used while they shouted down every person arguing that the Patriot Act was going to be a nightmare before it passed. It's the same attitude that lead people to plead for lockdowns, mandatory masking, and MRNA jab mandates. No, we shouldn't give the government more power because of shitty parents. Especially at the cost of our own rights and protections.

Unless you're going to seriously say that you think the government should fix and prevent every broken childhood and every shitty home? Because otherwise you're just asking for everyone to sign away what little 4th amendment protections they still have so that you can get hard thinking of all the people you just fucked over for no good fucking reason. Seriously, the nerve after what's already happened to suggest something like this and act as if though it wouldn't immediately affect non-porn sites someone goes to. If you give the government unilateral power to surveil you they're certainly not going to stop with curating your porn habits.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

"Since the feds can track you anyway with a subpoena we should make tracking software mandatory for everybody's computers" is an unbelievably shit take.

I'm not going to have a conversation with you as you ascend to the apex of hysteria.

Especially not when you deliberately inject raw bullshit into my argument so you don't have to argue with what I said.

 

[LurkTrawl]

I'm not going to have a conversation with you as you ascend to the apex of hysteria.

Especially not when you deliberately inject raw bullshit into my argument so you don't have to argue with what I said.

Sure, the bullet points then.

> Why does the government having power already with a subpeona justify them installing spyware on everyone's computer without one?
> Why is it society's responsibility to give away what rights and protections they have left wrt the 4th amendment, because people can't or don't supervise their children's online activity?
> Why would you assume that if you gave the government unilateral access to your browsing (which is the only way this would actually be enforceable), that it wouldn't be used to harass people who visit sites like this, or to outright deny access to such sites?
> Why and how do you think VPNs and Tor wouldn't immediately make this irrelevant? Unless:
> How can you justify making VPNs and Tor illegal?

Since you apparently are only fine with hysterics and raw bullshit when you're the one spewing it.