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That's not how fat acceptance works, lady.
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That's not how fat acceptance works, lady.
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I thought white bread became the standard because white flour was originally harder to make--being finer milled, and so on. White bread was a status symbol in ye olden dayes. Then, when industrialization made it possible to mass-produce white flour, everyone wanted the status symbol and said symbol became the norm. It's the same reason white sugar became popular, and why purple was the color of emperors. Now brown bread is seen as healthier and more natural, while white bread is shorthand for bland, ordinary, flavorless, etc.
Also, the idea of "pure" food is important in the history of the Western world because food that isn't pure might be full of awful shit that can kill you. See also The Jungle, the Pure Food and Drug Act, ANYTHING related to the Chicago slaughterhouses and the invention of pasteurization. You want to know what isn't pure and wholesome? Tapeworms. Salmonella. Lead poisoning.
Fucking figures an FA activist would get SocJus about food.
Also, the idea of "pure" food is important in the history of the Western world because food that isn't pure might be full of awful shit that can kill you. See also The Jungle, the Pure Food and Drug Act, ANYTHING related to the Chicago slaughterhouses and the invention of pasteurization. You want to know what isn't pure and wholesome? Tapeworms. Salmonella. Lead poisoning.
Fucking figures an FA activist would get SocJus about food.
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I read a graphic novel version of that book. Communist leanings aside, it does hit your stomach. (Granted back then I can see why people would be suckered in.)
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Most people today, who remember The Jungle at all or hear of it via pop culture assume it was an expose' on the meat packing industry, and are surprised it was a pro-socialist tract that ended up doing good for the world, but not in the way the author intended. Per Sinclair's own words "I wanted to hit America in the heart, I hit them in the stomach."
The move for "natural" food vs "processed" seems to swing pendulum like over the years as whatever is the norm always will have those loud detractors trying to push it the other way, and people looking for a cause to fight or a way to defy the man will pick it up as their own.
Way back in the 50's, canned food was seen as superior to "dirty" fresh fruit and vegetables and anyone who looked at preserved/processed food with suspicion was considered to be crazy or a closet communist looking to slander the free-market chemical industry.
The move for "natural" food vs "processed" seems to swing pendulum like over the years as whatever is the norm always will have those loud detractors trying to push it the other way, and people looking for a cause to fight or a way to defy the man will pick it up as their own.
Way back in the 50's, canned food was seen as superior to "dirty" fresh fruit and vegetables and anyone who looked at preserved/processed food with suspicion was considered to be crazy or a closet communist looking to slander the free-market chemical industry.
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I want to know what the fuck the "scientific research" is that shows that it's "impossible" to lose weight.
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Thin people generally get diabetes type 1, which is caused by genetic insulin-resistance due to a fault with the pancreas. Diabetes type 2 (which 95% of diabetics have) is developed insulin-resistance through lifestyle, and can be reversed with a change in lifestyle.
I have a relative who's lived with type 1 diabetes for 60 years. They're still active every day and monitor their blood glucose levels incredibly carefully. I can't sympathize with irresponsible assholes who do nothing to stop when they drive themselves off that cliff.
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It's a reference to a very old (1959?) study. A group of people were placed on a controlled, calorie-restricted diet in a hospital. They all lost weight, and then they were sent home with no further instructions. Almost all of them gained the weight back, because they all immediately resumed eating the way they used to.
I work with a therapist who specializes in eating disorders, and he somewhat agrees with the "diets don't work" message, though it's a gross oversimplification. For most obese people, they think calorie restriction means just not eating at all. So you have to spend willpower to keep it up, and when it runs out, you binge. You wind up with a cycle of restricting in the morning and binging in the evening, so the total calories consumed for the day is much higher than your intended target. People who are morbidly obese have an "unhealthy relationship" with food, in that they often eat to relieve anxiety*. Without treating this problem, it's very difficult to maintain any sort of diet. So it becomes about treating the cause rather than the symptom. After that, you can start to make those lifestyle changes to become satiated with fewer calories.
Of course, this is Tumblr we're talking about, and the very idea that an FA might be responsible for the consequences of their actions is to triggering to even consider. Personal agency is only for skinny cis white males, y'know.
*A few people instead get relief from anxiety by restricting instead of eating. These people develop anorexia, and this is very much caused by genetics.
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Well technically there are three main body types in the world: ectomorph, mesomorph, and endomorph. The last one, endomorph, is infamous for making it more difficult to lose weight and keep it off as that body type is wired to hold on to as much fat as it can because it's an evolutionary change brought on by the frequent famines/harsh conditions that early man faced. Now like I said, it makes it difficult to lose weight, not impossible. If an endomorphic person legitimately tried to lose weight they could, but it would take slightly longer to see the results. These people are just too damn lazy to put for any genuine effort.
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It's like they've missed the entire point the original statement was making.
@Wallace basically said it all already, but going on a crash diet for a period of time and then immediately going back to your old lifestyle isn't going to work in any sense, that's why losing weight is a matter of lifestyle change. It's true, of course, that your weight fluctuates normally because cookies are delicious. (also, a little off topic, but half and full marathoners can experience a dramatic weight change before and after events.) There's little snippets of accuracy in their argument about dieting, but it's mixed in with complete BS so it's obvious they're just cherry-picking things statements that support their unhealthy lifestyle.
@Wallace basically said it all already, but going on a crash diet for a period of time and then immediately going back to your old lifestyle isn't going to work in any sense, that's why losing weight is a matter of lifestyle change. It's true, of course, that your weight fluctuates normally because cookies are delicious. (also, a little off topic, but half and full marathoners can experience a dramatic weight change before and after events.) There's little snippets of accuracy in their argument about dieting, but it's mixed in with complete BS so it's obvious they're just cherry-picking things statements that support their unhealthy lifestyle.
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The whole concept of "on a diet" is that it's something unusual you're doing and therefore, something you will be "done" with at some point and then go back to normal. It's almost like it's designed to fail.
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Totally know how ya feel. Seeing that line where they said "Diabetes isn't caused by being fat" made me cringe- I've had relatives with it (both types 1/2) and I've known a fair few people in the medical side of things, and being overweight definitely can lead to the Dire Beetus.
I think that person just wants to pretend that nothing they do will change anything, so they might as well continue living their lifestyle of gorging themselves and not exercising.
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tmblr delusion said:
If you have a "set point" and 15lbs is your window then how are you going to punitively spiral out of weight control by dieting wrong? It's not a "set point" if that's not the point your weight returns to.
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July_4_1997
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I'm going to heave.
It's like a neverending Jenga tower of fail. I'm imagining her average breakfast looks like the binge scene from Foxcatcher if you replaced the mirror headbutting and violent self-loathing with her furiously mashing her cake frosting-covered fingers up her dusty twat while taking three dozen selfies.
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Wtf is a violent beauty standard?
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I'm guessing since they very rarely have any sort of deep interaction with anybody that doesn't involve tumblr, they believe that there some sort of beauty attack force that violently hunt down and publicly execute anyone who isn't at the accepted standard of beauty.
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Perfect contour? Are you fucking kidding me? People should not have lumps like that.I'm going to heave.
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Sorry to power level a bit but my mom was a dietician before she passed away. This kind of stuff would have sickened her. It sickens me.
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It's like, killing yourself through un-health is a lifestyle.... it's...... just sad.
These are people who need help, introspection, NOT a bunch of fellow deludeds to convince them that what they really need to do is double-down, on morbid obesity, no less....
I have no other words.
These are people who need help, introspection, NOT a bunch of fellow deludeds to convince them that what they really need to do is double-down, on morbid obesity, no less....
I have no other words.