US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Commissar Fuklaw]

politicians being scared out of their wits and forced to hide and the like.

Politics should be as local as possible so you can hang the politicians from a tree if you don't like what they do.

 

[Jaimas]

Not sure where else to talk about this, but I was discussing why all these politicians and journalists are still going on about the events/attacks that occurred on Jan 6th, even though that discussion has been exhausted to death.

The reason being that it was something that happened to one of our nation's most important and iconic monuments, and trying to downplay what happened is doing a grave disservice to our country's capitol, and it won't be something that people will forget anytime soon, because of the meaning behind the buildings and the like. It's not exactly something that gives people all that much confidence in the safety of our nation, and it's simply disrespectful to not properly condemn the people behind it, what with the images of our most important monuments and structures being vandalized, and our politicians being scared out of their wits and forced to hide and the like.

Years later, there has barely been any actual shit to come out of all the 1/6 bloviating, despite nigh-perpetual coverage by the press and presumably a great deal of fucking money. Other, far more critical questions regarding what the fuck happened that day simply were never investigated, such as:

"Why the fuck were the bombing attempts never investigated, despite bombs being found at both DNC and RNC offices in areas that, presumably, have CCTV coverage?"

"Why are there so many "unidentified co-conspirators" involved with 1/6, given that we know that this usually is the term used for FBI informants in sting operations?"

"Why the fuck is the person running the investigation of 1/6 the same motherfucker who ran the investigation of the alleged Gretchin Whitmer kidnapping plot, which is now widely considered to be a glow-op?"

"Why did the FBI go after and attempt to intimidate journalists who tried to talk to Ray Epps?"

I can keep going, but I won't. There's a hell of a lot to suggest shifty business, and suffice to say it's no surprise more people want BLM investigated for the summer of love than 1/6 investigated fruitlessly some more. 1/6 is a dead issue with voters; no one fucking cares.

 

[AnitaSarsleezian]

It doesn't even matter if he never uses it. The salt alone just from Elon reinstating it can melt all the snow in Antartica. The ADL and the NAACP have already been going into seziures and tweeting about it. These are good times. I wholeheartedly expect Rob "meathead" Reiner to devolve into rubbing his own shit all over his body. Hell, I can only imagine what that subhuman troll, Ron Perlman is gonna do in the name of self harm. Stephen King? He'll have to write more pedo stories to comfort himself.

 

[The Taco Santo!]

Not sure where else to talk about this, but I was discussing why all these politicians and journalists are still going on about the events/attacks that occurred on Jan 6th, even though that discussion has been exhausted to death.

The reason being that it was something that happened to one of our nation's most important and iconic monuments, and trying to downplay what happened is doing a grave disservice to our country's capitol, and it won't be something that people will forget anytime soon, because of the meaning behind the buildings and the like. It's not exactly something that gives people all that much confidence in the safety of our nation, and it's simply disrespectful to not properly condemn the people behind it, what with the images of our most important monuments and structures being vandalized, and our politicians being scared out of their wits and forced to hide and the like.

There have been repeated actual violent terrorist attacks in the Capitol over the last 40 years, from Puerto Rican separatists spraying machine gun fire and wounding 5 Representatives to bombings of the Senate by nutso Marxists in revenge for the invasion of Grenada to lone nutcases storming the Capitol with guns and shooting some Capitol cops. That guy came within a hair of taking out Tom DeLay and future Speaker and convicted teenage boy rapist Dennis Hastert. Of course, no one knew he was a pedo back then, everyone thought the worst thing from him was his rampant pay-to-play schemes and not-so-secret payoffs from lobbyists. But I digress, back to violent attacks in the Capitol building. There was also the anthrax letters mailed to two Senators. No one died in the Senate offices, but it wasn't from lack of trying! There were also a spate of minor bombings carried out by leftists, some more sane than others, but it's harder to get specific info about them. They're covered in the book Days of Rage, an indispensable history of leftist political violence in the 60s-70s. Almost no one was caught for those or punished in any way. As for trespassing and civil disobedience/protesting, well there were those morons in Handmaid's Tale cosplay during Amy Coney Barrett's confirmation hearings. You shouldn't even have to ask if any of them were arrested, thrown into solitary for several years, denied legal representation, prosecuted for felonies, and sentenced to multiyear prison sentences, because of course they weren't.

My point is, political violence exists in a continuum. There has always been political violence centered around the Capitol Building. Some might say that nonviolent protest is built into the system. Because it is! One of the inalienable rights given to us by God and guaranteed by the Constitution, and a shitload of jurisprudence since, is the right to petition the government for redress of citizen complaints. It got way out of hand on Jan. 6, there's no arguing that, but the vast, vast majority of the crowd that day weren't violent, yet every single one of them is being tarred with the same brush, and trespassers are being treated just as harshly as the few violent protestors, who do deserve legal action brought against them. I'm not even going to address potential FBI and glowie staging, because it's immaterial to my point.

The Capitol building isn't somehow sacred and the physical representation of Are Democracy. That's just fetishization.

You know what else is built into the fabric of our nation right from the start? The right, given by God, to abolish and overthrow an unjust government.

It's right there in the preamble to the Constitution:

whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

Here's what the Declaration of Independence has to say:

when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Since it's 2007

Politics should be as local as possible so you can hang the politicians from a tree if you don't like what they do.

You mean it's not?

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Since it's 2007

This was around the time where i stopped watching WWE. It was bad enough they were continuously doing Cena vs Orton, but it was REALLY jarring that they broke away from character and stopped everything just for this. I don't remember any other time they did this, it was always a "in memory of" at the beginning and they went on like normal.

 

[The Ugly One]

Not sure where else to talk about this, but I was discussing why all these politicians and journalists are still going on about the events/attacks that occurred on Jan 6th, even though that discussion has been exhausted to death.

The reason being that it was something that happened to one of our nation's most important and iconic monuments, and trying to downplay what happened is doing a grave disservice to our country's capitol, and it won't be something that people will forget anytime soon, because of the meaning behind the buildings and the like. It's not exactly something that gives people all that much confidence in the safety of our nation, and it's simply disrespectful to not properly condemn the people behind it, what with the images of our most important monuments and structures being vandalized, and our politicians being scared out of their wits and forced to hide and the like.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how scared do you think Steve Scalise was when he got shot by one of yours?

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

This was around the time where i stopped watching WWE. It was bad enough they were continuously doing Cena vs Orton, but it was REALLY jarring that they broke away from character and stopped everything just for this. I don't remember any other time they did this, it was always a "in memory of" at the beginning and they went on like normal.

This particular year was a bad time to be wrestling fan period, TNA, WWE or other. Why? Because the incident was so bad the mainstream press whether left leaning or right leaning started giving pro wrestling grief once again since the steroid trials

And I didn't know Johnny Grunge was a hero to millions that they wanted to be like him.

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

Not sure where else to talk about this, but I was discussing why all these politicians and journalists are still going on about the events/attacks that occurred on Jan 6th, even though that discussion has been exhausted to death.

The reason being that it was something that happened to one of our nation's most important and iconic monuments, and trying to downplay what happened is doing a grave disservice to our country's capitol, and it won't be something that people will forget anytime soon, because of the meaning behind the buildings and the like. It's not exactly something that gives people all that much confidence in the safety of our nation, and it's simply disrespectful to not properly condemn the people behind it, what with the images of our most important monuments and structures being vandalized, and our politicians being scared out of their wits and forced to hide and the like.

If the news didn't mention January 6th every moment they can people would've forgotten about it already. Shit, journoscum would even try to connect J6 to when a cat got stuck in a tree.

 

[DoomsdayElite]

Not sure where else to talk about this, but I was discussing why all these politicians and journalists are still going on about the events/attacks that occurred on Jan 6th, even though that discussion has been exhausted to death.

The reason being that it was something that happened to one of our nation's most important and iconic monuments, and trying to downplay what happened is doing a grave disservice to our country's capitol, and it won't be something that people will forget anytime soon, because of the meaning behind the buildings and the like. It's not exactly something that gives people all that much confidence in the safety of our nation, and it's simply disrespectful to not properly condemn the people behind it, what with the images of our most important monuments and structures being vandalized, and our politicians being scared out of their wits and forced to hide and the like.

I don't feel an iota of sympathy for cowardly, reptilian Capitol Hill cocksuckers. They were never in any danger, don't be such an asshole. All the "hiding" they did was for the cameras. January 6 was the Democrat equivalent of the Reichstag fire and ultimately, nobody cared. The media can prop it up until the end of the century, but nobody fucking cares. You imbecile.

 

[Sithis]

I miss 2007, honestly it was a hell of a year for me.

Normally my family tries to mostly avoid politics talk around the Thanksgiving table (not because we disagree, almost all of us are conservative ranging on a scale from old school right wingers to, well, me). This week I can't help but think the fact that Thanksgiving dinner will cost nearly twice to prepare as it did under Trump while the gas costs for everyone to drive to dinner will cost nearly twice as much, will steer conversation more than tradition.

 

[teriyakiburns]

IE, we need a federal level standard of how voting is conducted. If not, Republicans in general should learn to adapt faster to exploit this by any means necessary.

Unless I'm gravely mistaken, given that how elections are conducted is a power retained by the states, the only way that could happen is through an amendment to the constitution. Otherwise, any "standard" would have to be a voluntary one, which would be essentially useless.

 

[BubbleButt]

our politicians being scared out of their wits and forced to hide and the like.

Our politicians jobs is TO BE AFRAID OF US WHEN THEY DO A BAD JOB

That is how the system is intended to work

If they do not fear the populous, then the system is broken

 

[Standardized Profile]

Unless I'm gravely mistaken, given that how elections are conducted is a power retained by the states, the only way that could happen is through an amendment to the constitution. Otherwise, any "standard" would have to be a voluntary one, which would be essentially useless.

If states buy voting machines, tabulators, ballot paper, pens, etc. from out of state, the Federal government can use its interstate commerce power in creative ways.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

the Federal government can use its interstate commerce power in creative ways.

Don't suggest that!!

 

[Standardized Profile]

Don't suggest that!!

They already figured it out. I got the idea from them.

 

[Paul Pelosi's Boyfriend]

The reason being that it was something that happened to one of our nation's most important and iconic monuments, and trying to downplay what happened is doing a grave disservice to our country's capitol, and it won't be something that people will forget anytime soon, because of the meaning behind the buildings and the like. It's not exactly something that gives people all that much confidence in the safety of our nation, and it's simply disrespectful to not properly condemn the people behind it, what with the images of our most important monuments and structures being vandalized, and our politicians being scared out of their wits and forced to hide and the like.

Why is it so important to respect the Government? By the admission of multiple currently serving government officials the United States of America is a fascist and white supremacist nation.

By respecting those symbols and monuments you are defending an organization that by its own admission is racist and evil.

Who is the real bad guy here?

 

[ZehnBoat]

Why is it so important to respect the Government? By the admission of multiple currently serving government officials the United States of America is a fascist and white supremacist nation.

By respecting those symbols and monuments you are defending an organization that by its own admission is racist and evil.

what are you talking about? as soon as orange man bad left office the US is back baby. it's a cool progressive place and you must love it

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

what are you talking about? as soon as orange man bad left office the US is back baby. it's a cool progressive place and you must love it

Ask this guy

 

[Calandrino]

I don't feel an iota of sympathy for cowardly, reptilian Capitol Hill cocksuckers. They were never in any danger, don't be such an asshole. All the "hiding" they did was for the cameras. January 6 was the Democrat equivalent of the Reichstag fire and ultimately, nobody cared. The media can prop it up until the end of the century, but nobody fucking cares. You imbecile.

I mean, in fairness, even if they had killed a bunch of politicians and tried to overthrow the government, I probably still wouldn't care about J6.