US Five people killed and at least 18 injured in mass shooting at a gay nightclub in Colorado


Five people were killed Saturday night at a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs, Colorado, police announced. Another 18 people were injured in the mass shooting at Club Q.

“They did locate one individual who we believe to be the suspect inside,” said Colorado Springs Police Lt. Pamela Castro. “At this point in time, the suspect is being treated, but is in custody.

Castro did not clarify whether the suspect was included in the count of people who were injured in the shooting.

Police declined to speak about a possible motive. Colorado Springs Fire Capt. Mike Smaldino said 11 ambulances responded to the scene after multiple 911 calls were received.

“We will be here for many, many hours to come,” said Castro.

In a statement on social media, Club Q said it was “devastated by the senseless attack on our community” and offered condolences to victims and their families.

“We thank the quick reactions of heroic customers that subdued the gunman and ended this hate attack,” the statement said.

This is a developing story and will be updated.
 
Uh oh. Looks like one the victims was an aiden. Definitely moving into Troon Saint Hood. Now every trans remembrance day, all gay men will now have to suck a roid clit in gratitude for Saint Aiden of Zipper Tits.

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Reading the thread, the bar was apparently especially degenerate. No breaks. Doesn't justify a shooting however, that's tragic. Do we know the stated motivations of the shooter?

I doubt LibOfTikTok is to blame. She never specified violence, she only posted what they supported and nothing more. These same leftists on twitter are retaliating with more explicit and unambiguous calls to violence.
 
What follows is not legal advice. For anyone in that situation, when the day does come, don't try any cutesy "boating accident" meme bullshit. You gifted those firearms to a relative, who unfortunately is deceased (and can be verified by death certificate).
That being said, I'm sure this incident will be forgotten in a week.
Say when you limp wristed faggot basement dwellers. I got an AK with a 40 round mag and optics just waiting to get wet.

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I'll leave in cuffs but you'll leave in a hearst.
Bearmeat's Indian Den sure does see its share of violence.
Reading the thread, the bar was apparently especially degenerate. No breaks. Doesn't justify a shooting however, that's tragic. Do we know the stated motivations of the shooter?

I doubt LibOfTikTok is to blame. She never specified violence, she only posted what they supported and nothing more. These same leftists on twitter are retaliating with more explicit and unambiguous calls to violence.
But that's not violence, disagreeing with me at all, now THAT'S VIOLENCE :'(
 
Also not giving legal advice, but, that doesn't work.

The chain of custody of firearms continues after death and ownership transfers through the deceased's estate to either the person who he/she willed those firearms to, or, if they were not willed, whoever the executor of said estate directed to receive them.

It's just a more plausible "boat accident" story in the end.
I'm not quite sure I'm following. Cousin Eddie and Uncle Joe are both legal, non-restricted persons who live in the same state (so no transporting or shipping, also in a firearm friendly state). Cousin Eddie gives Uncle Joe a legally owned 12ga over/under he's had for a couple of years (no straw purchase or anything of the like). You're telling me that if Uncle Joe dies a couple of years later, Cousin Eddie is supposed to know what Uncle Joe did with that firearm in the years after it was gifted to him (maybe he gave it to Farmer John who lived down the road)? I'm not asking for legal advice, just trying to understand a bit better.
 
I do not condone this, but do not really condemn it either, other than how it gives lefties momentum to push their agenda. Since gay marriage, deviancy has been defined ever further down. Until they get back in the closet, disavow the transgender nonsense, keep their sexualiry a private thing, I will continue to regard them with nothing but animus and contempt.
 
Piggybacking off of https://kiwifarms.net/threads/five-...ay-nightclub-in-colorado.135111/post-13429257

Just to be clear, I have not verified that this is his mother. It's being reported via numerous outlets, none of which are showing a direct connection between them. There are no mentions of Anderson Lee Aldrich, & no one on her friends list are Aldrich's.

Grain of Salt.

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Pregnant with Weston (younger brother) | Archive
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My angel Weston | Archive
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"My baby boy" 2012 (Unsure if this is Anderson or Weston) | Archive
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Weston age 4 (5 in July) "Mommy misses you" | Archive
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"The Boys" (Possibly the Dad of either or both) | Archive
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From 2013 "My Boys" (Angry people leaving messages already) | Archive
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From 2014, "Only 13 and already in beast mode" | Archive
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Family photo (Grandparents on both right and left of Anderson and his Mom) | Archive
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Another "Momma misses you" to Weston | Archive
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May or may not be relevant but there is a lot of "My sweet baby Weston" and no "My sweet baby Anderson".
In fact, in none of the photos does she ever mention Anderson by name.

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"Ever since I was a little girl, I have desired to be married in the Temple." | Archive
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"Was nervous to stand before 250 people but I did it!" | Archive
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Missed adding the entire bowling post.
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She seems to have had a Blog, cannot currently find an archive of it.
"35 Things Not to Say to the Mother of a Child With Autism"
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Article written by someone else, (Julie Ryan Evans), Autism may still be relevant to her family in some way.
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Before current year, getting a cosmetic, elective, bilateral radical mastectomy and abusing steroids would be "the bad ending" but current year is so shitty that you have to get mass killed by maybe closet case Islamic terrorist.

God knows what horrible thing happened to her to set off this chain of events.
 
Gay club shooting suspect evaded Colorado's red flag gun law
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Bernard Condon
2022-11-21 02:39:33GMT

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Colorado Springs police, the FBI and others investigate the scene of a shooting at Club Q on Sunday, Nov. 20, 2022 in Colorado Springs, Colo. (Helen H. Richardson/The Denver Post via AP)

DENVER (AP) — A year and a half before he was arrested in the Colorado Springs gay nightclub shooting that left five people dead, Anderson Lee Aldrich allegedly threatened his mother with a homemade bomb, forcing neighbors in surrounding homes to evacuate while the bomb squad and crisis negotiators talked him into surrendering.

Yet despite that scare, there’s no record prosecutors ever moved forward with felony kidnapping and menacing charges against Aldrich, or that police or relatives tried to trigger Colorado’s “red flag” law that would have allowed authorities to seize the weapons and ammo the man’s mother says he had with him.

Gun control advocates say Aldrich’s June 2021 threat is an example of a red flag law ignored, with potentially deadly consequences. While it’s not clear the law could have prevented Saturday night’s attack — such gun seizures can be in effect for as little as 14 days and be extended by a judge in six-month increments — they say it could have at least slowed Aldrich and raised his profile with law enforcement.

“We need heroes beforehand — parents, co-workers, friends who are seeing someone go down this path,” said Colorado state Rep. Tom Sullivan, whose son was killed in the Aurora theater shooting and sponsored the state’s red flag law passed in 2019. “This should have alerted them, put him on their radar.”

But the law that allows guns to be removed from people deemed dangerous to themselves or others has seldom been used in the state, particularly in El Paso County, home to Colorado Springs, where the 22-year-old Aldrich allegedly went into Club Q with a long gun at just before midnight and opened fire before he was subdued by patrons.

An Associated Press analysis found Colorado has one of the lowest rates of red flag usage despite widespread gun ownership and several high-profile mass shootings.

Courts issued 151 gun surrender orders from when the law took effect in April 2019 through 2021, three surrender orders for every 100,000 adults in the state. That’s a third of the ratio of orders issued for the 19 states and District of Columbia with surrender laws on their books.

El Paso County appears especially hostile to the law. It joined nearly 2,000 counties nationwide in declaring themselves “Second Amendment Sanctuaries” that protect the constitutional right to bear arms, passing a 2019 resolution that says the red flag law “infringes upon the inalienable rights of law-abiding citizens” by ordering police to “forcibly enter premises and seize a citizen’s property with no evidence of a crime.”

County Sheriff Bill Elder has said his office would wait for family members to ask a court for surrender orders and not petition for them on its own accord, unless there were “exigent circumstances” and “probable cause” of a crime.

El Paso County, with a population of 730,000, had 13 temporary firearm removals through the end of last year, four of which turned into longer ones of at least six months.

The county sheriff’s office declined to answer what happened after Aldrich’s arrest last year, including whether anyone asked to have his weapons removed. The press release issued by the sheriff’s office at the time said no explosives were found but did not mention anything about whether any weapons were recovered.

Spokesperson Lt. Deborah Mynatt referred further questions about the case to the district attorney’s office.

An online court records search did not turn up any formal charges filed against Aldrich in last year’s case. And in an update on a story on the bomb threat, The Gazette newspaper of Colorado Springs reported that prosecutors did not pursue any charges in the case and that records were sealed.

The Gazette also reported Sunday that it got a call from Aldrich in August asking that it remove a story about the incident.

“There is absolutely nothing there, the case was dropped, and I’m asking you either remove or update the story,” Aldrich said in a voice message to an editor. “The entire case was dismissed.”

A spokesperson for the district attorney’s office, Howard Black, declined to comment on whether any charges were pursued. He said the shooting investigation will also include a study of the bomb threat.

“There will be no additional information released at this time,” Black said. “These are still investigative questions.”

AP’s study of 19 states and the District of Columbia with red flag laws on their books found they have been used about 15,000 times since 2020, less than 10 times for every 100,000 adults in each state. Experts called that woefully low and hardly enough to make a dent in gun killings.

Just this year, authorities in Highland Park, Illinois, were criticized for not trying to take guns away from the 21-year-old accused of a Fourth of July parade shooting that left seven dead. Police had been alerted about him in 2019 after he threatened to “kill everyone” in his home.

Duke University sociologist Jeffrey Swanson, an expert in red flag laws, said the Colorado Springs case could be yet another missed warning sign.

“This seems like a no brainer, if the mom knew he had guns,” he said. “If you removed firearms from the situation, you could have had a different ending to the story.”

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In the picture above, what is the red and white material that agent has on that spool? From the fraying at the ends, it appears to be rope, but I can't quite make it out.
 
I like how they completely ignore this part;

Yet despite that scare, there’s no record prosecutors ever moved forward with felony kidnapping and menacing charges against Aldrich, or that police or relatives tried to trigger Colorado’s “red flag” law that would have allowed authorities to seize the weapons and ammo the man’s mother says he had with him.

Its so fucking tiring. They literally point out the failure of government and without skipping a beat say the solution is more government.
 
I'm not quite sure I'm following. Cousin Eddie and Uncle Joe are both legal, non-restricted persons who live in the same state (so no transporting or shipping, also in a firearm friendly state). Cousin Eddie gives Uncle Joe a legally owned 12ga over/under he's had for a couple of years (no straw purchase or anything of the like). You're telling me that if Uncle Joe dies a couple of years later, Cousin Eddie is supposed to know what Uncle Joe did with that firearm in the years after it was gifted to him (maybe he gave it to Farmer John who lived down the road)? I'm not asking for legal advice, just trying to understand a bit better.
No, he's not supposed to know, but, the lack of any direct legal custody to take over means the gun may get confiscated depending on circumstance and never get back to you even if you're the only surviving family member.

If Fedboy shows up on the doorstep looking for a certain gun, and you say "gave it to Uncle Joe, and he's dead" they don't just check the "person is dead" box, and file it away. They'll go over to Uncle Joe's house and find out if it's there, and if not, they'll probably canvas the neighborhood and find Farmer John and ask him if he has it. And EVERYONE in that chain is potentially liable if someone lies, so, if you DIDN'T actually gift a gun to a relative? Who is since deceased? Don't say you did, because that story will be checked out. Death doesn't make the gun "die" too.

Ian McCollum over at Forgotten Weapons has a whole video devoted to what you should do to be legally in the black should you be cleaning out Great Grandpa's old house after he passes and find that he has his old BAR in the basement for some reason, because just saying "Well, he's dead, what can they do about it?" might get you in trouble.

It's not a crime to not know its there, but, it potentially MAY be a crime if you know it's there and do something to/with it.
 
If nothing else, this shows how useless these "red flag" laws are and how much they're just for political bullshit, because if a guy can make bomb threats and have an armed standoff with cops and this ISN'T a red flag, the law is clearly of no value. It seems most of the times I've seen these laws getting enforced it's someone who was talking some shit about a politician.
 
If nothing else, this shows how useless these "red flag" laws are and how much they're just for political bullshit, because if a guy can make bomb threats and have an armed standoff with cops and this ISN'T a red flag, the law is clearly of no value. It seems most of the times I've seen these laws getting enforced it's someone who was talking some shit about a politician.
Red Flag laws aren't for preventing crime, they're for humiliating wrongthinkers who just happen to also own guns.
 
Nothing of note was lost since it seems like the bar was quite shitty. This "Anderson Lee Aldrich" seems to be a fat ass though. Kind of shocked that he was just injured and not dead (well, at least for now).
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Are Iranians "white"?

According to pre-critical-theory US census categories, immigrants from Iran were always classified as "white" and they themselves went with the flow. And Iranian immigrants to the USA strongly tended not to be Ayatollah types.

Only when (from time to time) there was a Republican president bombing or threatening Iran did they become rhetorically "brown" according to Democrats. Republicans are racist QED.
I know it was confirmed that the Persian in question was unrelated and his shooting incident took place outside of the U.S, but outside of U.S. census contexts, Persians are seen as "Pee-Oh-See". Afghans are also technically considered "White" according to the U.S. census, but is anyone seriously calling the Pulse Club shooter (who was of Afghan descent) a "white" shooter? Historically, people from Persia, Afghanistan, Palestine, etc were all considered part of "Asia" in the U.S. As Asians, they were prevented from becoming from U.S citizens. Levantine immigrants argued that they should not be classified as Asian in order to get U.S. citizenship. Pajeets and Japs tried appealing to, but Jesus came from West Asia, not East Asia or India.

Furthermore since that unrelated 42 y/o in question was in Norway, Norway's statistics classifies Persians, Pakis, Afghans, and so on as all being Asian people. Same with Sweden's definition of "Asian". But the U.S. census does not. Pakis and Indians are technically Asian in America, but many in America don't think of them when you say "Asian".
 
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I know it was confirmed that the Persian in question was unrelated and his shooting incident took place outside of the U.S, but outside of U.S. census contexts, Persians are seen as "Pee-Oh-See".
Persians are literally of the original Aryan stock and even the words "Aryan" and "Iranian" come from the same Sanskrit root. Call a Persian Iranian an Arab some point if you want euthanasia.
 
Nothing of note was lost since it seems like the bar was quite shitty. This "Anderson Lee Aldrich" seems to be a fat ass though. Kind of shocked that he was just injured and not dead (well, at least for now).
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Seems like this is a legit case of mental illness, too, given he apparently had autism and was kooky enough to hold his mom hostage with a homemade bomb. No idea what set him off, TBH.
 
If Fedboy shows up on the doorstep
They can either have a warrant and breach or they can fuck off. I don't answer my door for anyone and the dogs let us know when anyone is on our acerage.

I appreciate the insight. I have never purchased, owned, been gifted, or even shot a firearm in my life. The extent of my weapons handling has been a Marksman slingshot as an 8yo and a Red Ryder BB gun when I was 10.
 
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