Liz Fong-Jones / Elliot William Fong / @lizthegrey - 'Consent accident' enjoyer, ex-Google employee, nepotistic sex pest, Robert Z'Dar look-alike who wants authority over the Internet

Are there any pictures of men who had sex changes in the 70s or 80s today?
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Australia's Carlotta had surgery in 1971.

Fucking hell!

Has the sex reassigning surgery been deliberately made worse since then?
 
Fucking hell!

Has the sex reassigning surgery been deliberately made worse since then?
The goal until relatively recently was being able to pass and Carlotta was a top line drag performer prior to surgery, so more skilled at creating the illusion.

These days the political line is that transgender people shouldn't be held to the "passing' standard.
 
These so-called "plurals" or DIDers or whatever the fuck: They're all bullshitters. They're all absolutely full of shit. It's just one more way of trying to evade responsibility for their own actions. "But... but... but... It wasn't me, I dindu it, it was one of my other personalities" etc blah blah blah
Faggots always blame “the system” for their criminality to avoid being held accountable, many such cases.
 
If he identifies as a snow leopard and a snow leopard has nine lives like other cats, how many alters does each life possess? Does each life have it's own unique personality ala "Garfield's 9 Lives", or are we operating under video game logic where every 1-up is still a Mario? Are there separate personalities for the human side and Elliot's fursona? Do they share alters? Are there alters that only present after the current life is lost, or can they bridge between lives? Maybe each personality is it's own life? If Donger ate a can of 9 Lives cat food, would he effectively become immortal?

This is a really interesting delve into the retarded.
 
Are there any pictures of men who had sex changes in the 70s or 80s today?

What do they look like, and how has their long term skeletal development been?
Fran Blanche springs to mind. Fran transitioned in the '80s, but (s)he's still quite thin. It's had to tell if Fran has a tranny hump, as (s)he's usually sitting down in videos.
The goal until relatively recently was being able to pass and Carlotta was a top line drag performer prior to surgery, so more skilled at creating the illusion.

These days the political line is that transgender people shouldn't be held to the "passing' standard.
Old school trannies tend to come a lot closer to passing than the typical current year troon. It's almost as though the goal is to actively avoid passing.
Has the sex reassigning surgery been deliberately made worse since then?
Just like everything else, the level of craftsmanship in gender reassignment surgery has seriously declined since '80s.
 
Has this been mentioned before in this thread? Apparently Liz is one of those people who doesn't have an internal voice or "headspace".

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It's absolutely fucking petrifying knowing that freaks like Elliot have some level of actual sway on the tech industry. Cutting your dick off and pretending that mechanically dilating the wound to prevent it from healing is normal is one thing, pretending you have DID is another thing. This fucker should've been thrown in an asylum years ago.
 
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Yeah, you're right.

But taking it out of context makes it very funny:
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Even in context, I'm not sure why Elliot is trying to flex.
We, his audience, and everyone else that has ever laid eyes upon this hobgoblin knows that if they were suddenly given the chance to become a real woman, they would take it in a heartbeat.
 
Old school trannies tend to come a lot closer to passing than the typical current year troon. It's almost as though the goal is to actively avoid passing
Well yeah. The manlier they can be while forcing other people to declare them the most delicate and femme of laydeez, the more of a kick they get out of it. Whatever of it isn't a fetish is about control over others and the violation of boundaries, which circles back into the fetish.

Someone like No-Dong takes sadistic pleasure in using his position power to make people (especially women) nod along and say yes, he's a pretty pretty plural snow leopard princess, please don't get me fired.
 
Fran Blanche springs to mind. Fran transitioned in the '80s, but (s)he's still quite thin. It's had to tell if Fran has a tranny hump, as (s)he's usually sitting down in videos.

Old school trannies tend to come a lot closer to passing than the typical current year troon. It's almost as though the goal is to actively avoid passing.
Checked out their YouTube, don't know much about them, but what do I notice right away? About their "about" section. They name their interests, job history, personality, etc. Nowhere is it mentioned "transgender". Some cool stuff about engineering, comes across as just a fun techie channel.

I might have guessed this person was trans, but then again, maybe not. They pass pretty well and most importantly, they're not fucking going on about their sexual identity. They're also not weirdly NOT trying to pass, blatantly keeping masculine traits.

Someone like this I genuienely wouldn't care about being trans at all, including acknowledging their pronouns. It's not my identity or issue, but I don't give a shit if other people aren't hurting anyone and live a different kind of life than me, and aren’t assholes. I'd have to adjust a bit to pronouns but really it's not that big of a deal if that's all you're being asked to do.


It reminds me of a bodybuilder named Scooby I used to watch on YouTube. He is a gay guy with a husband but never once brought up his sexuality or sexual life, because it wasn't relevant to his channel and he didn't feel the need to discuss it.

One day he posted a video with some man on his back during some push-ups. His audience started wondered who it was, shitstorm began in the comment section, and eventually Scooby made a video admitting that he was gay.

However the difference between these fucking people today is that not only was he visibly embarassed to discuss his sex life, but he just said "it's not the thing that defines me", and continued making fitness content, never really mentioning it again.


I'm not going to pretend that I understand what it's like to be gay, or that there isn't an effect on people's lives becuase of that. I know a few gay people that literally got kicked out of their homes or estranged from their parents because of their sexuality, especially growing up in conservative religious households. There's definitely an aspect to that lifestyle that will always be a part of someone's life since homosexuals will always be a minority.

But it doesn't need to define your life anymore than being heterosexual does. I mean my life is greatly shaped by my attraction to women, but it's not my defining characteristic. I don't want people to know me as "that straight man". I want them to know me for my personality, my hobbies, interests etc.

This long post is really just to say that I am very sympathetic and have no issue with gay people or trans people who are legitmately just trying to live their lives. I was pro-gay marriage because it made no sense to me to have lifelong stable gay partners who for no other reason than their sexuality could not get the benefits of marriage. I know gay people like that, who were highly successful and stable and monogamous, but were barred from that. To me that was discriminatory.


The difference with these old boomer gays who actually went through some shit, is that a lot of them just wanted to live their lives like everyone else, especially as law-abiding citizens whose only difference from other is sexuality. They're not trying to make being gay everything about them, they just want to fit in enough to have basic respect and be left alone.

That's not Gen Z, and that's not these fucking troons on this website. Trans is their identity, and trans is their money maker. Everything is about their sexuality, their fetishes, their bizarre behavior, and other things that fucking no one else wants to hear about. And not only that, society has now done the reverse of what was done to the boomer LGBT, and given them privelege and protections BECAUSE of their sexuality. Naturally, this gets abused by people like Elliot and Lucas, who are absolutely degenerate, mentally ill, sadistic, and want to inflict their fetishes on others. Are we surprised giving systematic benefits to certain races, genders, or sexuality is a bad idea? I thought we just had a brutal civil rights battle to desegregate and stop discrimination based on immutable characteristics in America?

It's just fucking sad to see I guess. I know a lot of people on here are genuinely homophobic and transphobic, but for all my shit talk and tranny jokes however I am not. I'm not even conservative really. But I'm also not going to pretend there aren't massive and systematic problems in the LGBT community, or that they're above criticism. They don't get to censor the Internet so you can't criticize them. They have issues with degeneracy and all kinds of relationship problems. They're not above being made fun of, taken to task, or exposed for misdeeds, like fucking everyone else, because that's equal treatment in action. But Most of all, they don't get to protect pedophiles, child groomers, rapists and abusers, and that's what I'm seeing happening. Not just on the Kiwi Farms but in my own personal experience.

Shame on the pieces of shit like Dong-Gone and Lucas who not only act like deranged, dishonest assholes, but literally make people more transphobic and homophobic in the process. They set normal LGBT people back. They are the self-appointed spokespeople of others whom they only share in common a sexuality. It's ridiculous.


If anyone gave enough of a shit to read this essay, I salute you.
 
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The psychiatric support dog is a pet peeve.

Emotional support animals have no training to complete specific tasks, but a psychiatric support dog absolutely does and it’s typically tailored to what a person needs.

Larger breeds are sometimes used for people who find deep touch pressure useful - the dog will lay on you like a weighted blanket so your ass calms down.

If you’re tripping out in public, they can be trained to either keep people away from you to give you space if you need that to get your shit together or to get help if you can’t get your own shit together

Have meds for acute panic? Doggo will fetch your pill bottle.

Self harm? The dog can be trained to interrupt/distract you or fetch a person to do something about it

So this ass hat is full of it. They would 100% know if their dog was a psychiatric support animal because they undergo the kind of intense training as other support dogs.
 
If he identifies as a snow leopard and a snow leopard has nine lives like other cats, how many alters does each life possess? Does each life have it's own unique personality ala "Garfield's 9 Lives", or are we operating under video game logic where every 1-up is still a Mario? Are there separate personalities for the human side and Elliot's fursona? Do they share alters? Are there alters that only present after the current life is lost, or can they bridge between lives? Maybe each personality is it's own life? If Donger ate a can of 9 Lives cat food, would he effectively become immortal?

This is a really interesting delve into the retarded.
Clearly you didn't study for gnostic meta theory. If the systems dies all the lives die. Individual lives can only be killed via Ego deaths, which is generally handled by suppressing a multiple systems specific personalities qlipnoth meltdown. Stopping a feline ID is a massive pain in the ass, which is why we generally just shoot these people when the inner cat starts pissing on the walls.
Has this been mentioned before in this thread? Apparently Liz is one of those people who doesn't have an internal voice or "headspace".

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I'm so fucking tired of these faggots. Not just the half dicks, I mean the "hurr durr I have no internal monologue I have to consciously verbalize". "hurr durr I have 7 souls shoved into my brain"Last time I checked those were symptoms of children who were horrifically molested and disassociated to cope. Which okay that explains the no penis bit too but if that was the case we'd at least have less "consent incidents" right?
The psychiatric support dog is a pet peeve.

Emotional support animals have no training to complete specific tasks, but a psychiatric support dog absolutely does and it’s typically tailored to what a person needs.

Larger breeds are sometimes used for people who find deep touch pressure useful - the dog will lay on you like a weighted blanket so your ass calms down.

If you’re tripping out in public, they can be trained to either keep people away from you to give you space if you need that to get your shit together or to get help if you can’t get your own shit together

Have meds for acute panic? Doggo will fetch your pill bottle.

Self harm? The dog can be trained to interrupt/distract you or fetch a person to do something about it

So this ass hat is full of it. They would 100% know if their dog was a psychiatric support animal because they undergo the kind of intense training as other support dogs.
Maybe its being confused with an emotional support dog? You know that thing doctors give rich white women because they can't just diagnose them with hysteria?
 
We, his audience, and everyone else that has ever laid eyes upon this hobgoblin knows that if they were suddenly given the chance to become a real woman, they would take it in a heartbeat.
Of the current bunch, I doubt it. The example of Carlotta is a good one - given the chance, then yes, immediately. But someone like admitted rapist Liz Fong-Jones? I doubt it. In the wild we've seen MtF troons claim they're better than women, know more about being women because they chose to be one, and love referring to their girldick, a thing a real woman will never have. Being a troon right now is far, far higher on the oppressive stack than being an actual woman, and being trans has become their identity in a way that being a woman hasn't. A lot of these people who transition don't really go to being male or female, they go to being TRANS. Especially the ones who call themselves trans non-binary, an oxymoron within an impossibility.

So HSTS troons - the gay guys who often start with drag, like Carlotta - sure, they'd rather be real women, though they're not. But AGPs, like admitted rapist Liz Fong-Jones, I think would be far more reluctant if there were that chance. You can see it just in the bullshit around character creation for video games, where they can easily play a woman, but they no longer want that (even though a number of them claim that playing women in games is how they found out they were trans) - they want to play as their own type of genderspecial.

We already know Trans Women Aren't Women, that their slogan is a lie. But one of their many dirty secrets is that many of them don't even want to be women. They want the power they perceive women have, and the power to make other people call them women. But actual biological women are the enemy, and the last thing they want to be.
 
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