Liz Fong-Jones / Elliot William Fong / @lizthegrey - 'Consent accident' enjoyer, ex-Google employee, nepotistic sex pest, Robert Z'Dar look-alike who wants authority over the Internet

Let this be a lesson other lolcows. When you start bringing your dirty linens out in the mainstream it gets hard to control the narrative and it can backfire and bring a lot of unwanted attention to your transgressions.
I mean the real lesson, as always, should be stop over sharing on social media. Especially accounts tied to your real identity and career. Why do you need to talk on twitter/facebook/linkedin/whatever other gay fucking platform about how you like stretching out your asshole to fit a futbol while some actual retard spits in your mouth. Why do you need to tell the world you're extremely mentally unstable and you believe to be 1903829843294824938 different personalities, including aliens/animals/children/cartoons. Why do you need to tell the world you've raped someone so hard they want to commit suicide. Why do you need to walk around at your 6 figure job at a giant silicon valley company with a fucking kink collar and dirty diaper on.

Accepting people's sexual degeneracy and saying "oh i don't care what people do behind closed doors" has turned into YOU MUST ACCEPT MY DIGUSTING BEHAVIOR IN PUBLIC AT WORK AT ALL TIMES OR YOU'RE A NAZI
 
A permanently open wound is not a vagina.

You would still call a man who lost his penis in an accident a he, just as you still call a woman post hysterectomy a she.
I don't know about that. I find that a penis is necessary to be a man, see guide below. (Maybe you need more than not a penis to be a woman.) As a man, I just don't want or see Liz in my category.

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I absolutely love furries who don't know what the animals they're obsessed with sound like. It's a really high percentage of them. I actually think furries are often worse at imitating animals than the regular ol pet play perverts are. There's probably some kind of logic to this like the more you anthropomorphize the animal so you can sexualize it the more you don't recognize how it's unique as a creature rather than an object of your fetish.
Might explain why there's such overlap between troons and furries – furries act out caricatured fantasies of the animals they fetishize, rather than attempting to realistically imitate their actual behavior, and troons do the same with women.
 
Not defending Liz here, but I have a close friend who is one of those "no inner monologue" people and from the way she describes it there is just as much activity going on in there, it just happens in images and non-verbal sensations instead of words. Hard to imagine for those of us on the other side, but people who say they have no inner monologue don't mean they are walking around with empty heads like automatons. Consciousness just expresses itself differently.

How does one process images in their head without at least a little inner dialogue to work through what they're seeing? Unless its like a simple object? Are you sure this person isn't making shit up?
 
I don't know about that. I find that a penis is necessary to be a man, see guide below. (Maybe you need more than not a penis to be a woman.) As a man, I just don't want or see Liz in my category.

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FTFY 'cos most women don't want troons in their category either...
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Regarding Honeycomb.io, it is a dumpster fire. It is amazing.
Yeah. to give you an idea what kind of company Honeycomb is, here are some stickers:
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Notice the one at the top "THE ENGINE OF CAPITALIST PATRIARCHY RUNS ON THE DIRTY FUEL OF WOMEN & SHAME"
Who doesn't want to do business with such a company?
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God. It's like a Lisa Frank coloring book was consent accidented by woke bullshit and randomly placed tech jargon.

My eyes hurt.
 
Are the directors, er, laundering money? This cannot possibly be profitable in any way
You've struck on something here. I've often wondered how Honeycomb actually, you know, works. The business model as I've seen it described--as you just describe it--is unsustainable. Honeycomb as a front company for a money laundering operation is the best explanation I've seen so far.

Fun story: I had an Army buddy who became a big-time criminal. We've lost touch over the years but our old unit is still a tight bunch and I haven't heard any word about him getting arrested, so he's probably still out there, doing crime. Anyway, he owned a small chain of video stores back when video stores were a thing. None of those stores existed to make a profit. All they did was process the money he made doing illegal shit.

So yeah, I can see where Honeycomb might be a money drop for the millions in political dark money we know is flowing around out there. CTO Fong-Jones could play Internet games all day without hurting a thing, business-wise.
 
Are the directors, er, laundering money? This cannot possibly be profitable in any way
Well, Liz Fong-Jones, CTO of honeycomb.io and self confessed rapist was involved with people in the TransLifeline scandal where TransLifeline directors were also money laundering and stealing money meant to help trans people.
 
Not defending Liz here, but I have a close friend who is one of those "no inner monologue" people and from the way she describes it there is just as much activity going on in there, it just happens in images

Huh, I wonder if I'm weird, because I do both. When it's just urbane stuff it's just an inner monologue, but when I need to think about something like a physiological reaction, I see it as a sequence of images in my mind of said reaction from start to finish.

Football is a game for massive Jessies anyway.

You're an aussie, eh?
 
You've struck on something here. I've often wondered how Honeycomb actually, you know, works. The business model as I've seen it described--as you just describe it--is unsustainable. Honeycomb as a front company for a money laundering operation is the best explanation I've seen so far.

Fun story: I had an Army buddy who became a big-time criminal. We've lost touch over the years but our old unit is still a tight bunch and I haven't heard any word about him getting arrested, so he's probably still out there, doing crime. Anyway, he owned a small chain of video stores back when video stores were a thing. None of those stores existed to make a profit. All they did was process the money he made doing illegal shit.

So yeah, I can see where Honeycomb might be a money drop for the millions in political dark money we know is flowing around out there. CTO Fong-Jones could play Internet games all day without hurting a thing, business-wise.
Not so sure about Honeycomb but Elliot and his friends are involved in quite a few companies and 501s that protect whatever minorities (trans, poc, blm, feminism, woke gaming, ...)
And on a regular basis they set up GoFundMe's to rake in money.

This is just a guess but it wouldn't surprise me if they use the money to make some business trips allover the world to promote their shit, buy hardware and
hire each other as consultant (adviser, web dev, IT infrastructure, catering, ...)
 
I'd argue Football is just as aggressive and violent as Rugby, the hits and tackles are certainly harder, albeit with the advantage of helmets and padding that Rugby players... oh wait you meant Soccer... :story: yeah those guys are bitches lol I've been watching the World Cup, they go down and roll around crying when they barely get hit, I'd love to see one get hit by a Linebacker just to see his reaction.

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Me waiting to say handegg when an American says football.
 
Yeah. to give you an idea what kind of company Honeycomb is, here are some stickers:
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Edit - moar.
Notice the one at the top "THE ENGINE OF CAPITALIST PATRIARCHY RUNS ON THE DIRTY FUEL OF WOMEN & SHAME"
Who doesn't want to do business with such a company?
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God. It's like a Lisa Frank coloring book was consent accidented by woke bullshit and randomly placed tech jargon.

My eyes hurt.
Not "like a Lisa Frank coloring book." It is Lisa Frank. They're blatantly infringing on their copyright and not even hiding it.

Honeycomb.io:
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Lisa Frank:
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Lisa Frank:
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Here Charity says they do use Lisa Frank art and give the stickers away for free, plus more pictures of the stickers:
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What is this madness? I guess they think because they're free little souvenirs that it's just fine? The Nietzsche quotes make it transformative and possibly parody, which would probably fall under fair use. Still, it's incredibly odd and lazy. And Lisa Frank Inc. has a habit of pursuing copyright infringement claims aggressively, including for unlicensed use of rainbow gradients.
 
You've struck on something here. I've often wondered how Honeycomb actually, you know, works. The business model as I've seen it described--as you just describe it--is unsustainable. Honeycomb as a front company for a money laundering operation is the best explanation I've seen so far.
No, it is not money laundering. It is just riding the venture capital wave. Up until recently you could get virtually unlimited investments via venture capital because every startup was automatically a unicorn valued at a billion dollars before you even sold the first license. This is what happens when you have infinite money at zero cost (no interest).
That is no longer the case and the vc spigot is now not just turned off but welded shut and buried beneath an 18 feet thick layer of reinforced concrete.

If they can cut costs and slim down the organization then they might be able to survive the next 2 years or so until vc funding will become available again (at best).
That is assuming they do have a lot of money still in the bank. I kind of doubt is since with that many highly compensated employees and no real customers they would be burning through cash like cash is going out of fashion.
They will not survive until 2024 and Elliots bullshit covering the company with radioactive shit is not going to make it easier for them to get funding, customers or survive.

EDIT: I would guess they have a burn rate of ~50M$ a year or slightly more. Someone with autism just need to check how much funding they got in the last few rounds and guestimate how much revenue they get per anum and you should have a fairly good estimate on when things will start to get dicey.
The revenue they have to date is nowhere near what you need to stay afloat. Small companies with small cloud systems like the customers they brag about are not really bringing in the money.
I mean, look at their shopwindow list of customers?
How much do you think these companies will be spending on licensing third party software not to run the business-critical part of their business but just to monitor the system in case issues arise?
Unless you are google/amazon/microsoft/apple, monitoring logging and alerting is a cost-centre item, not a profit-and-loss item.
Small companies just do not invest all that much in cost-centre stuff, because they can not afford it.
Most likely a few of them are 'at-cost' customers just to have something to brag about. I.e. these customers are not a revenue stream but a marketing cost. That is not unique to honeycomb.io though, all startups do that.
 
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- This company polices customers. They will do background checks on customers to make sure they deserve to buy their product.
Pure nonsense... every normal company would try everything in its hands to reach out as more customers as possible.
Hell, not even luxury brands do this: if I go into a Ferrari reseller to buy a car, and I have the money, no questions are asked.

Are the directors, er, laundering money? This cannot possibly be profitable in any way

There's a good possibility for that. Italian mafia, to launder money, buys/sets up small businesses which are pretty shitty, but their purpose is not to sell products to generate profit, but to print fake receipts to justify the illegal income of the mafia family.

Honeycomb looks like a money-laundering business:
- offers a very common product for which there are a lot of competitors;
- the price is higher of its competitors' for little to no reason. As stated by other users, their service is sometime offered as free when buying other services;
- the shadier the business, the less you want real customers to get close to it, because it must fly under the radar. That's the reason behind "policing" customers, I think;
- partecipation to occasional tech conferences is good for keeping up the facade.


EDIT: I've read only now Cuckoman's idea of the situation, and it makes far more sense. The money shower from venture capitals is drying up.
 
How does one process images in their head without at least a little inner dialogue to work through what they're seeing? Unless its like a simple object?

If you're genuinely interested, other people have put in work answering questions:

Clinical psychologist who has spent last 50 years researching inner experience describes the different ways people experience making decisions

Q and A with someone who has no inner monologue

My own opinion: thought processes that are "perceived" differently from individual to individual are probably the same thing underneath. A process (like thinking over a decision) might play out essentially the same way, but one person will perceive it as being narrated like they're clearly hearing it, another one will have a fuzzier narration, another one will think it through in images, etc.

It doesn't seem to be a big deal though, since a lot of people with no inner voice never realized they were different until that 2020 viral article when everyone started talking about it.
 
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