Liz Fong-Jones / Elliot William Fong / @lizthegrey - 'Consent accident' enjoyer, ex-Google employee, nepotistic sex pest, Robert Z'Dar look-alike who wants authority over the Internet

If you're genuinely interested, other people have put in work answering questions:

Clinical psychologist who has spent last 50 years researching inner experience describes the different ways people experience making decisions

Q and A with someone who has no inner monologue

My own opinion: thought processes that are "perceived" differently from individual to individual are probably the same thing underneath. A process (like thinking over a decision) might play out essentially the same way, but one person will perceive it as being narrated like they're clearly hearing it, another one will have a fuzzier narration, another one will think it through in images, etc.

It doesn't seem to be a big deal though, since a lot of people with no inner voice never realized they were different until that 2020 viral article when everyone started talking about it.
I wouldn't call it out as no big deal just yet.
I my experience it does seem like when it comes to completely batshit crazy NPCs, like Elliot, more often than not you eventually learn they are plural and lack an inner monologue.
We need research on this. Correlation between lack of inner monologue and being an NPC.

I can only contribute anecdotal data but in my limited anecdotal sample group of people I have encountered I would estimate the correlation to be very strong.
 
Not "like a Lisa Frank coloring book." It is Lisa Frank. They're blatantly infringing on their copyright and not even hiding it.

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What is this madness? I guess they think because they're free little souvenirs that it's just fine? The Nietzsche quotes make it transformative and possibly parody, which would probably fall under fair use. Still, it's incredibly odd and lazy. And Lisa Frank Inc. has a habit of pursuing copyright infringement claims aggressively, including for unlicensed use of rainbow gradients.
Jesus fuck and here I thought I was just making a tongue-in-cheek comparison based on the colors. Truth really is stranger than fiction.
 
I wouldn't call it out as no big deal just yet.
I my experience it does seem like when it comes to completely batshit crazy NPCs, like Elliot, more often than not you eventually learn they are plural and lack an inner monologue.
We need research on this. Correlation between lack of inner monologue and being an NPC.

I can only contribute anecdotal data but in my limited anecdotal sample group of people I have encountered I would estimate the correlation to be very strong.

I think you might be ignoring a confounder, which is that people that make sure to let everyone know that they don't have an inner monologue are more likely to be deeply boring and empty people who want to sound more interesting than they are, so they seize on something unusual that they think makes them "unique."

Same with synesthesia. You mostly only hear about it from the people who talk about it because they don't have a personality otherwise.

Also, Liz doesn't even strike me as an NPC type. A demented narcissist, yes, but not an NPC. An NPC would not be capable of attempting a campaign to break the internet in order to hide evidence of their own consent accidents. He doesn't blindly follow rules, he attempts to selectively enforce and change rules in a way that allows him to get what he wants.

The NPCs were the people cheering in the comments and sharing Ben Collins tweets about the brave transwomen fighting neonazis.
 
Not "like a Lisa Frank coloring book." It is Lisa Frank. They're blatantly infringing on their copyright and not even hiding it.

Honeycomb.io:
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Lisa Frank:
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Honeycomb.io:
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Lisa Frank:
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Here Charity says they do use Lisa Frank art and give the stickers away for free, plus more pictures of the stickers:
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What is this madness? I guess they think because they're free little souvenirs that it's just fine? The Nietzsche quotes make it transformative and possibly parody, which would probably fall under fair use. Still, it's incredibly odd and lazy. And Lisa Frank Inc. has a habit of pursuing copyright infringement claims aggressively, including for unlicensed use of rainbow gradients.
Nice find!
Here, I archived a few of her sticker tweets:
 
How does one process images in their head without at least a little inner dialogue to work through what they're seeing?
It's not that hard to do.
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Checking the SEO for "honeycomb.io" plus "liz Fong-Jones" shows that Honeycomb.io does add observability to this thread, a week after being mentioned along Blockface's name pushed the result from 40th place into 38th. Not much in the grand scheme of things but enough to have significance.

Honeycomb.io does make "consent accidents" observable, guaranteed by Liz Fong-Jones! :)

What is this madness? I guess they think because they're free little souvenirs that it's just fine? The Nietzsche quotes make it transformative and possibly parody, which would probably fall under fair use. Still, it's incredibly odd and lazy. And Lisa Frank Inc. has a habit of pursuing copyright infringement claims aggressively, including for unlicensed use of rainbow gradients.
Relax, it's just a pesky consent accident involving copyright. :ratface:
 
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I think you might be ignoring a confounder, which is that people that make sure to let everyone know that they don't have an inner monologue are more likely to be deeply boring and empty people who want to sound more interesting than they are, so they seize on something unusual that they think makes them "unique."

Same with synesthesia. You mostly only hear about it from the people who talk about it because they don't have a personality otherwise.

Also, Liz doesn't even strike me as an NPC type. A demented narcissist, yes, but not an NPC. An NPC would not be capable of attempting a campaign to break the internet in order to hide evidence of their own consent accidents. He doesn't blindly follow rules, he attempts to selectively enforce and change rules in a way that allows him to get what he wants.

The NPCs were the people cheering in the comments and sharing Ben Collins tweets about the brave transwomen fighting neonazis.
Entirely possilble. That is why I would welcome actual research in this area.
 
Are the directors, er, laundering money? This cannot possibly be profitable in any way
I think it's more of the usual tech company deal where they raise as much capital as possible from moronic investors, burn through it like there's no tomorrow, then sell the floundering company to someone too dumb to know any better. Soon the party will be over on that cycle for another 20 years, but not soon enough.
 
Thwomp is the only serial rapist there that we're aware of so far.

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The vc spigot is now not just turned off but welded shut and buried beneath an 18 feet thick layer of reinforced concrete.

Can you elaborate on why the vc well is dry? Did something happen recently to prompt this? I'm admittedly pretty uninformed on this stuff, but I'd love to understand why Honeycomb's future funding endeavors might fall flat.
 
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Nope.

Just preferred rugby.

But I could also be variously, Welsh, Irish, some forms of northerner from a town which has a rugby league team, Kiwi or South African.
Having played both Rugby and Football, I think Rugby is the superior sport because you have so much less downtime. And comparing being a lineman in football to being a prop in Rugby I felt a lot more useful as a prop.
 
I think it's more of the usual tech company deal where they raise as much capital as possible from moronic investors, burn through it like there's no tomorrow, then sell the floundering company to someone too dumb to know any better. Soon the party will be over on that cycle for another 20 years, but not soon enough.
Basically what happened with Twitter. Shitty engagement figures, full of bots and operated by an army of overpaid, spoiled children. And they got someone to pay 44bn for it when it was likely worth less than 15.
 
Having played both Rugby and Football, I think Rugby is the superior sport because you have so much less downtime. And comparing being a lineman in football to being a prop in Rugby I felt a lot more useful as a prop.

Well whatever position you play, rugby, American football, even in soccer or British bulldog, you are still more useful to humanity collectively than Fong Jones has been or ever will be! ;)
 
How does one process images in their head without at least a little inner dialogue to work through what they're seeing? Unless its like a simple object? Are you sure this person isn't making shit up?
It's a currently trendy form of Severe Internet Retardation to claim this. This NPC is just going along with the fad.
 
It's a currently trendy form of Severe Internet Retardation to claim this. This NPC is just going along with the fad.
I think there's something to it. Social media and the internet in general have retarded people's ability to think for themselves. Especially younger people who have never known a world where Twitter wasn't available to tell them what to think and how disposable the people are who think differently than the current corporate-sponsored zeitgeist.

That "no inner dialogue" just means an absense of critical thinking skills..
 
I think there's something to it. Social media and the internet in general have retarded people's ability to think for themselves. Especially younger people who have never known a world where Twitter wasn't available to tell them what to think and how disposable the people are who think differently than the current corporate-sponsored zeitgeist.

That "no inner dialogue" just means an absense of critical thinking skills..

No critical thinking skills is far from no inner dialogue. For instance if I asked what was the date last Wednesday? Unless you had the 2022 calendar engrained in your brain, you would need to think about it. It doesn't take critical thinking to come up with the answer, but it takes some kind of dialogue. Unless they are just not capable of answering simple questions?
 
I mean the real lesson, as always, should be stop over sharing on social media.
This. So many people overshare on social media, and not just their intimate details. So many, often without realizing, share just enough details to make it possible for anyone with the time and patience to dox them which leads them to believe they are being targeted when the truth is their own poor opsec/infosec made it easier for people to learn more about them than desired or expected.

It's also funny how some people lose their jobs over what they post on social media whereas peole such as LFJ get hired by thier asspatteing cronies with adequate resources and the ability to look the other way when they act unprofessionally online. LFJ certainly has the privilege she and her ilk screech so loudly about towards others.
 
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