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Indigenous women push back against plan to ban females from NSW national park site​

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A plan to ban women from visiting a scared Indigenous “men’s site” in northern NSW has been blasted by Aboriginal women as “discriminatory”.
A plan to ban women from access to part of a NSW national park has caused uproar among local Indigenous women, who have branded the move “discriminatory”.
Wollumbin National Park, also known as Mount Warning, is located in the Tweed Shire in far north NSW, with the landmark attracting about 127,000 people annually.
Wollumbin Mountain was declared an Aboriginal Place above 600m to the summit by the NSW government in 2014 to protect its cultural values and formally recognise it as a place of special significance to Aboriginal people.
The Wollumbin National Park summit trek has been closed since the start of the Covid-19 pandemic, and will be shut off from the public permanently following an announcement from Minister for Environment James Griffin last month.
He said the future of the national park was being guided by the Wollumbin Consultative Group, which “represents a range of Aboriginal groups and families with a connection to the site”.


Under the new Wollumbin Aboriginal Place Management Plan, the whole of the mountain is considered a “men’s site”.
“Therefore gender restrictions apply to working on or visiting the Wollumbin Mountain,” the plan states.
However, the plan does note that there are “several women’s sites associated with Wollumbin AP that are integral to its cultural value”.
The plan also states that the “sanctity” of Wollumbin AP “may also manifest physically”, such as making people sick or putting women in “physical danger”.

“For example if women access areas that are restricted to men, women are in physical danger and likewise for men,” the plan states.
The plan states that public access to the site has resulted in vandalism, the dumping of rubbish, increased erosion, and illegal installation of infrastructure.
The document says the key cultural and spiritual values of the place cannot be respected or protected if the general public continue to have access to the area, “particularly due to the restrictions of gender as this is a men’s place”.
The Wollumbin Consultative Group said the site was particularly sacred to the Bundjalung nation.
“Wollumbin is interconnected to a broader cultural and spiritual landscape that includes Creation, Dreaming stories and men’s initiation rites of deep antiquity,” the group said.
“Bundjalung beliefs illustrate the spiritual values embodied and evoked in Wollumbin and its connections to a broader cultural landscape.
“These connections are important to the spiritual identity of the Bundjalung nation, many other nations and families connected to Wollumbin, predominantly men and also women.”
However, local Ngarakbal Githabul women have said placing male-only gender restrictions on the site, as proposed in the plan, would “dispossess” Indigenous women with deep spiritual connections to the area.
Stella Wheildon, a north coast Indigenous woman, told The Daily Telegraph that the contested area also contained scared female sites.

She said she had conducted extensive research on the history of Indigenous Australians in the region and found that the Yoocum Yoocum ancestors, and the Ngarakbal Githabul people were originally from the area in question.
“The Wollumbin Consultative Group has discriminated against the women and our lores,” Ms Wheildon said.
In a Facebook post, Ms Wheildon said she had also been contacted by Ngarakbal Githabul women who feared the ban being proposed by the Wollumbin Consultative Group would impact on their access to “their most sacred Rainbow Serpent Seven Sisters sites”, which is the small ledge on the northern slope of the mountain.
Elder Elizabeth Davis Boyd, whose tribal name is Eelemarni, said under the new plans she would not be able to visit her mother Marlene Boyd’s memorial.
Her mother was recognised as the Keeper of the Seven Sisters Creation Sites, which includes Mt Warning, and has a dedicated memorial along the Lyrebird track.
Ms Boyd told The Daily Telegraph that calling Mount Warning a “Bundjalung men’s site” was incorrect was “doing great damage to my ancestral culture, tradition and lores”.
“The State Government’s administrative decision to permanently close Mount Warning not only contravenes my customary law rights and women’s rights and human rights – but also my cultural responsibilities to the Gulgan (a Ngarakbal Githabul word for pathway keeper) memorial,” Ms Boyd said.

A spokesperson for the National Parks and Wildlife Service told news.com.au the Wollumbin Consultative Group is “intended to include all Aboriginal people with cultural connections to Wollumbin”.
“It has broad representation, including from the Tweed Byron Local Aboriginal Land Council, adjacent native title claimants and representatives from family groups with knowledge and links to Wollumbin, and a representative from Tweed Shire Aboriginal Advisory Committee,” the spokesperson said.
However, Ms Boyd claimed the Ngarakbal Githabul women have not been included in any part of the consultation process regarding access to Wollumbin National Park.
“Membership of the Wollumbin Consultative Group is determined by Aboriginal people,” the NPWS spokesperson said.
“Consultation has also occurred with Ngullinjah Jugun Aboriginal Corporation, Yaegl Traditional Owner Aboriginal Corporation, Bandjalang Aboriginal Corporation and 10 individual and organisation Registered Aboriginal Parties for the Tweed and Murwillumbah localities.”
The NPWS said the NSW Government has not made a decision about the future of access to the summit, with consultations continuing, noting that and consultation is continuing, noting Aboriginal custodians will make decisions about the future of access to the summit.

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Abos : Whitey KEEP OUT.
Abo Men : Also, No Wahmen
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Abo Women : All we want is this tiny spot, halp WHITEY.
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"I want Indigenous Australian traditions and culture to be recognised in Australia! But only the ones that don't infringe on the rights I was given by white culture!"

Typical really. Their hypocrisy runs like clockwork.

Boyd, you don't have the right to be included under Aboriginal laws. Political gender equality is a white ideology.

Yup. That's what happens when you beg for muh culture then realise it kinda sucks. But oh well. Too late to back out now. You reap what you sow.
 
Ok I don't care if it's a mens site or womans site, whatever. What does matter is that they engage in some traditional, sacred practices in that area and this, I think, is the real cause for concern. The local government should at least allow for specific individuals to enter the area to perform rites at sites of interest.
Lol


They should have thought about that before banning the white devils and their gender equality from the site
 
Stella Wheildon, a north coast Indigenous woman, told The Daily Telegraph that the contested area also contained scared female sites.
Pretty blonde hair for an Abo.
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"I want Indigenous Australian traditions and culture to be recognised in Australia! But only the ones that don't infringe on the rights I was given by white culture!"

Typical really. Their hypocrisy runs like clockwork.

Boyd, you don't have the right to be included under Aboriginal laws. Political gender equality is a white ideology.
A friend of mine pulled the "India was ruined by British colonialism!" thing on me the other day and was a bit miffed when I pointed out that if it weren't for the British they'd still be practicing sati, have legal support to kill baby girls (it still happens, obviously, but it's hidden better and less common now), and would have no age of consent.
She did not like that.
 
those bitches can get the fuck out of my spaces.

and while they're at it, can we ban them from the golf clubhouse, public swimming pools, social clubs, pubs and bars, the football, juries, polling stations, the military, and while also reinstate the laws to make it illegal for them to wear pants.

i've had it up to here with fuck-holes encroaching on my space.
 
A friend of mine pulled the "India was ruined by British colonialism!" thing on me the other day and was a bit miffed when I pointed out that if it weren't for the British they'd still be practicing sati, have legal support to kill baby girls (it still happens, obviously, but it's hidden better and less common now), and would have no age of consent.
She did not like that.
If the British hadn't colonized India, it wouldn't even be a country, it would be ten or more shitty little warring nation states with a per capita income of $50 a year, and none of them would be connected to the global economy in any wider way because they wouldn't speak languages understood by anyone else. The only people with a pot to piss in would be the Brahmin caste and everyone else would be a de-facto slave. It would basically be the Middle East with curry.
 
It seems the whole notion of cultural relativism, preserving culture has misfired when it comes to the Aboriginals. Trying to lock them into beliefs and practices for a world that doesn't exist anymore.

It's one of those aspects where good intentions leads to bad outcomes. Cultures adapt and change. Trying to lock people into a stone age culture isn't going to help them in 2022. It seems from the outsiders perspective, they often just try and use this to have some power for preventing non-indigenous from doing stuff.

This shows how, those in the communities also are using it for power and control with in it. Yet we can't criticise or examine that.
 
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I posted about this before:
These women are only outraged that they are banned, not that all non-aboriginal people of both genders are banned.
Yeah, I though round 2's skermish was thread worthy, just for the sheer outrageousness.
This is a nice, wholesome, developing drama. Apparently NSW gov, after bending the knee the first time, because Dominic is the epitome of a gormless cuck, refuses to help the women out.

This and the spearing revenge, illustrates how pathetic and stupid the modern version of their "culture" is. These people are less boong than Old Charlie Perkins, yet have the same amount of unmitigated temerity.
 
This is just like Indian women complaining about British colonialism and then you bring up the tradition of Sati to them.

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Fucking ninja'd lol
Your reward for being on the same wavelength is this gif of the act in question.
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I wonder if they realize the collective response is going to be "sounds like an abbo problem lmao" or if they expect whitey to come save them
I think you underestimate just how much white-guilt Australian city-dwellers (who are the ones with the most political power) have in this country. There'll be white bleeding-hearts crying about how the government "needs to do something!" in no time. There will be hundreds of thousands of tax-dollars being funneled into mitigation and negotiations and then probably the tax-paid transporting or guided tours or something for the "afflicted" women to their sacred site through man-lands to compensate for all their pain and suffering.

There's money to be made here. That's why it's in the news.

Pretty blonde hair for an Abo.
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A friend of mine pulled the "India was ruined by British colonialism!" thing on me the other day and was a bit miffed when I pointed out that if it weren't for the British they'd still be practicing sati, have legal support to kill baby girls (it still happens, obviously, but it's hidden better and less common now), and would have no age of consent.
She did not like that.
Even with blonde hair, pale skin and blue eyes they can still call themselves "black-fellas" and demand monetary benefits, special treatment, free health-services, free legal-services, employment privileges, Treaty, etc granted to them for being "Indiginous". And decry any criticism of their person as "racism" or "discrimination". The one-drop-rule is really strong in Australia. It's all such absolute bullshit.
 
Rights don’t exist until they are fought for. Why do western women have better enumerated rights? (Mostly white) suffragettes fought for them. If you want the right, win it with sweat, tears, and blood. Sexism exists in EVERY culture (retard intersectionalist libfems put on blinders to it). You don’t win concessions through bitching and moaning. Whatever lmao.
 
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