Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Kane Lives]

Between that and Biden emptying the strategic oil reserve, it's a serious question if we have the physical ability to move to a war footing. And that's even before you answer the question of "where the hell are we going to get enough straight, sane, non-deathfat MEN in any kind of hurry"

Not even the hard-right neocons want their kids in the military after his debacle in evacuating Afghanistan and firing tens of thousands for refusing the clot shot. That leaves...what major groups, exactly, that the US armed forces can draw on?

Isn't the various states' National Guard still a fairly numerous organization, when combined? I'm sure the feds can pull bodies from there.

 

[Elbereth]

Russia is not going to run out of anything.

Russian mobiks complaining that they are forced to buy their own diesel for tanks . But yeah, I'm sure russian logistics is great and all.

 

[Cpt. Stud Beefpile]

Why the hell would the russians not replace the nuclear warhead with a regular one?

Possible answer on this - anywhere that has armed nukes often has dummy/ballast loads so they can fire something with an equivalent weight for a test. Or also so that the thing firing the nuke and the actual nuclear unit can be seperated and transported apart from each other.

My educated guess is some random Ivan was told "switch out the nuclear bomb and fire that missile"...but just swapped out the nuke without bothering to check what he was swapping IN.

 

[borsabil]

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Russian mobiks complaining that they are forced to buy their own diesel for tanks . But yeah, I'm sure russian logistics is great and all.

Lol Russia running out of diesel?

I can imagine Russia running out of a lot of things but fucking diesel?

Next you'll be telling me how Arabs are running out of sand and Americans are running out of fat people.

 

[Mothra1988]

Lol Russia running out of diesel?

I can imagine Russia running out of a lot of things but fucking diesel?

Next you'll be telling me how Arabs are running out of sand and Americans are running out of fat people.

I love that your discovery that Russia isn't a super power anymore is like a child discovering Santa Claus isn't real. Ahahahahahahaha.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Russia is not going to run out of anything. Read the piece, they've been firing up to 50K rounds per day, the equivalent of an entire year's worth of US production in less than a week.

I did. The analysis they're taking all these numbers from isn't available, so there's no way to verify their claims.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

While the begger of Keeev get's more of my money, I just got another letter from my energy company increasing prices *again* from Jan 1st.

 

[marfusha]

I did. The analysis they're taking all these numbers from isn't available, so there's no way to verify their claims.

Is Zaluzhnyi and Kyiv Kiev independent a good enough source for you?

 

[teriyakiburns]

Is Zaluzhnyi and Kyiv Kiev independent a good enough source for you?
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Autistically focusing on the quantity of russian shell spam is missing the point.

I've managed to get the analysis to load now (weird networking issue, tor to the rescue I guess), but it doesn't actually address the issues I've raised. We know that Russia loves its artillery spam, but we don't know if they're using new shells, or depleting the enormous stockpiles Russia is supposed to have. The analysis doesn't even touch it. Nothing in the article touches it. There's literally no examination of the situation, other than "Russia shoots a lot of shells". Pointing to other places that say "Russia shoots a lot of shells" still doesn't address the question of their manufacturing capacity.

It also doesn't address US stockpiles. It says the US is sending a lot of aid, which is already known, but there is nothing about how much the US actually has stored. The actual argument of the analysis isn't that the US stockpile is being drained dry, because most of the aid going to Ukraine isn't taken from that stockpile, but that Ukraine's predicted, future purchases of NATO-standard weapons will take time to manufacture.

IOW, the article is, as I said, the Industrial side of the MIC, lobbying the government to start giving them money now rather than waiting until later, so that they can ramp up production to meet the anticipated Ukrainian contracts. All the talk about this being a signal that NATO is running out of bombs is cope; they aren't. It's a bunch of weapons manufacturers shaping opinion so they can get paid.

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

Russia probably realized that the West had spend nearly a decade arming and training Ukraine and weren't ever going to stop (and were going to get Ukraine to join NATO) and realized that the longer they waited - the worse it was going to be in the long run and best to just go in with what they had.

I love the white washing that has happened over the past year. Russia demanded Luhansk and Donetsk in their big February tard show. They even moved Russian troops at this time and nothing happened from NATO or EU or even the Ukies. The west was more than willing to give up those two to keep things quiet but Slavs only know how to double down so they attack and then eat shit.
None of this has anything to do with NATO. NATO has been bordering the USSR since Turkey and Norway joined NATO and modern Russia since the Baltics. This and muh oil, muh holy war against satansim and so on and so forth are just excuses. The real reason for Russia going in is that they taught they could get away with it and it turns out they couldn't.

 

[Suburban Bastard]

We can only pray that one day Russia will be safe for drag queen story hours, puberty blockers on demand and (most importantly) where any honest Jewish businessman can buy up blue chip hard assets for pennies on the dollar.




Doesn't matter who wrote it, it was published in the NYT so would be fully vetted and approved by the State Department prior to publication.

The rest of your argument is senseless. Yes the Ukrainians have been receiving NATO artillery pieces and rounds, this has been well documented, including the complaints that the stuff they're getting while technically superior to the old Warsaw Pact munitions is also very fragile and needs constant servicing.

Russia is not going to run out of anything. Read the piece, they've been firing up to 50K rounds per day, the equivalent of an entire year's worth of US production in less than a week. They've been doing this non stop for months! How? Because the stuff they're making is far less sophisticated, way way cheaper and Russia has abundant natural resources to keep the churn going. Russia means to win this war by simple logistics, if the west is to respond they should be moving into a partial war footing themselves. What western country is commandeering civilian manufacturers and re-tooling them to support the Ukie war effort? Oh yes that's right, not a single fucking one.

I'll make a prediction. This war is going to keep on grinding until one side or the other loses the logistical battle. I don't think that side is going to be Russia.

WE'RE ON DAY 277 OF RUSSIA'S AMAZING 72 HOUR "SPECIAL MILITARY OPERATION"
And what have we seen so far?
We saw a failed offensive into Kyiv that got obliterated and retreated. (and lmfao if your defense is 'putin was doing it as a nice gesture', a hundred fucking thousand soldiers are dead at this point.)
A countless number of equipment and logistical failures on Russia's army, mainly due to them still relying on fucking timetables and trucks, as well as never modernizing.
Black Sea Vassals, including their flagship getting smoked by Ukraine despite not having an effective navy.
The complete breakdown of Russia's own geopolitical sphere, to the point skirmishes have broken out between nations they were supposed to protect, nor get their own member states to agree at what was supposed to be a joint CSTO vote.
The Russian frontline pushed back, again, and again, and again, and even the complete loss of Kherson, despite russiaboos in this thread proclaiming over and over again for months it was never going to occur, and re-assuring Null when he asked several months back "it's not a big deal, they'll just counter and go forth anyway, they won't lose Kherson"
Guess what, they lost fucking Kherson. If that didn't make you come to terms with the fact Russia is spewing nothing but horseshit poorly wrapped up in a Big Mac wrapper, than by all means, keep eating the shit-burgers, but don't act surprised when everyone keeps looking at you in disgust as you lick the feces off your fingers while proclaiming "what a bountiful feast"
That's not even going into the long term consequences of this war, nobody in Europe is going to want to deal with them anymore. Sure, they've done desperate shit to keep their reserves full, still doesn't mean they're going to keep wanting their future to be aligned with the alcoholic wife beater of a nation state, they're only going to focus on becoming less reliant with each passing year. It's such a fundamental net loss I have no idea how you can spin that as win.

But by all means, tell me how Russia is "just getting started"

tl;dr

 

[352Div]

Lol Russia running out of diesel?

I can imagine Russia running out of a lot of things but fucking diesel?

Next you'll be telling me how Arabs are running out of sand and Americans are running out of fat people.

I don't think you understand how logistics work. It doesn't matter if you have millions upon millions of rounds of ammunition when you can't resupply the platoon that is fighting. It's not that Russia is running out of diesel, as Mothra1988 believes, far from it. The Russian mobiks are the absolute bottom of the barrel but they are numerous, which means a large amount of money being spent on them. The MoD will happily let the mobiks pay for their own gear, drones and now fuel.

On more tragic news, the Russian MoD is now restricting their customs to the point that some fighters are unable to buy equipment, as reported by a Russian channel.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

But by all means, tell me how Russia is "just getting started"

Russia is modernizing the vast reserves of spears and rocks from neolithic settlements. Hohols cannot win.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Hey did Ukraine apologize to Poland yet?

 

[LikeRivenIRL]

nobody in Europe is going to want to deal with them anymore.

Give it time. At some point, Europe will have a very difficult choice to make if the political class don't want to get the Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette treatment. They don't represent the will of their people. The average pleb gives not two fucks about Ukraine. The EU has simply managed to weave themselves into their little Bruxelles fortress and hold MS hostage with funding leverage. That can't last forever in our current economic state. If NATO falters at all, we are fucked.
I predict individual loosening of sanctions tbh.

Hey did Ukraine apologize to Poland yet?

They sent their condolences, but no official apology to my knowledge.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

They don't represent the will of their people.

Polls and surveys in Europe suggest "the will of people" is overwhelming support for Ukraine at the expensive of their own comfort.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

20 NATO States "Pretty Tapped Out" After Weapons Transfers To Ukraine | ZeroHedge

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20 NATO States "Pretty Tapped Out" After Weapons Transfers To Ukraine…

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Euro bros, are you following along?

> European nations ran out of weapons and have no standing military as all their fighting age men "resigned" so they could volunteer to go die in Ukraine
> European military industry shut down due to lack of resources and energy
> European civilian industry utterly dependent on American handouts, won't survive without them
> Only remaining military supplies are on US army bases throughout Europe
> Over 100,000 occupying US troops stationed in Europe (source: https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3078056/fact-sheet-us-defense-contributions-to-europe/#:~:text=Since February 2022, DoD deployed,100,000 service members across Europe. )

Did you get what just happened? American military has occupied and disarmed Europe without firing a single shot.

Edit: As for Bongladeshi curry niggers who can't even afford to keep the power on, expect that in a couple of weeks most of them will drop off from the internet, at least until they figure out how to turn seething into electricity.

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

20 NATO States "Pretty Tapped Out" After Weapons Transfers To Ukraine | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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20 NATO States "Pretty Tapped Out" After Weapons Transfers To Ukraine…

archived 28 Nov 2022 17:05:39 UTC

archive.ph

Euro bros, are you following along?

> European nations ran out of weapons and have no standing military as all their fighting age men "resigned" so they could volunteer to go die in Ukraine
> European military industry shut down due to lack of resources and energy
> European civilian industry utterly dependent on American handouts, won't survive without them
> Only remaining military supplies are on US army bases throughout Europe
> Over 100,000 occupying US troops stationed in Europe (source: https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3078056/fact-sheet-us-defense-contributions-to-europe/#:~:text=Since February 2022, DoD deployed,100,000 service members across Europe. )

Did you get what just happened? American military has occupied and disarmed Europe without firing a single shot.

Edit: As for Bongladeshi curry niggers who can't even afford to keep the power on, expect that in a couple of weeks most of them will drop off from the internet, at least until they figure out how to turn seething into electricity.

>Zero hedge
>20 nations
>doesn't name them
>official complaings about US profiteering
>doesn't name them
Can rushits stop their fetish fanfic for even a second?
Last I checked Thales, Dassault, Rhinemetal, Airbus are still going. And the 100k amerimutts are less than the combined armed forces of Poland and Romania.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

>Zero hedge
>20 nations
>doesn't name them
>official complaings about US profiteering
>doesn't name them
Can rushits stop their fetish fanfic for even a second?
Last I checked Thales, Dassault, Rhinemetal, Airbus are still going. And the 100k amerimutts are less than the combined armed forces of Poland and Romania.

Another seething nigger who didn't bother even reading the article before his asspain prompted him to reply.

> 20 nations figure comes from the New York Times article quoted by ZH: https://archive.ph/MXghW
> "senior official" is clearly referring to Josep Borrell (source: https://archive.ph/jX1gu )
> Thales, Dassault, Rhinemetal, Airbus are all being artificially propped up by taxpayer money that is being drained from every other source. The UK can't even keep its lights on, for example.

I get that selective illiteracy is the favorite defense mechanism of the seething NATO nigger, but it's just plain embarrassing now. Did you learn to read in America? Want me to repeat it in Spanish?

To the Europeans here, try answering these questions. Don't answer to me, answer to yourself.

- How many Russian army bases and Russian troops are in your country right now, and how many American army bases and American troops are in your country now?
- How much political influence does Russia have on your government, and how much political influence does America have?
- Are you free to practice your nation's culture and follow your nation's values, or are you forced to accept Russian values and culture, or are you forced to accept American values and culture? That includes LGBT rights, BLM rights, accepting refugees, etc.

Now do you understand who is the biggest threat to your nation's independence?

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

Another seething nigger who didn't bother even reading the article before his asspain prompted him to reply.

> 20 nations figure comes from the New York Times article quoted by ZH: https://archive.ph/MXghW
> "senior official" is clearly referring to Josep Borrell (source: https://archive.ph/jX1gu )
> Thales, Dassault, Rhinemetal, Airbus are all being artificially propped up by taxpayer money that is being drained from every other source. The UK can't even keep its lights on, for example.

I get that selective illiteracy is the favorite defense mechanism of the seething NATO nigger, but it's just plain embarrassing now. Did you learn to read in America? Want me to repeat it in Spanish?

To the Europeans here, try answering these questions. Don't answer to me, answer to yourself.

- How many Russian army bases and Russian troops are in your country right now, and how many American army bases and American troops are in your country now?
- How much political influence does Russia have on your government, and how much political influence does America have?
- Are you free to practice your nation's culture and follow your nation's values, or are you forced to accept Russian values and culture, or are you forced to accept American values and culture? That includes LGBT rights, BLM rights, accepting refugees, etc.

Now do you understand who is the biggest threat to your nation's independence?

The NYT article also doesn't name the fucking countries you illiterate slav.
>Defense companies are propped up by tax payer money
No shit nigger last I checked it's no longer the 1600s and there aren't free companies roaming Germany. Almost all military equipment is surprise: bought by militaries.
>The UK can't even keep the lights on
The UK is not in the EU and is being led by Pakis.
And while you go on your retard ramble about nigger dicks since that is all you think about I will simply point out that in the past 30 years Russia has funded a separatist war in Moldova, invaded Georgia, funded a separatist war in Ukraine and invaded Ukraine. All the US has done is bomb some Serbs. As for cultural values. Russia has thrown a shit fit every time the Baltic States, Ukraine or Moldova have tried to do anything to curb a certain foreign invading culture.