Chinese Communist Party Megathread - Cold War 2: Electric Boogaloo

There are those who are willing to talk, but generally, they are people who have already left China, or are only willing to talk anonymously. Open protesting isn't new in China either; there are open protests somewhere in China every year. What is new is the scale, the vitriol, and the fact that people are openly calling for changes in the regime, something that would have been unthinkable a few years ago.
Don't forget those Chinese Police Stations scattered
 
What's impressive was that the protesters gather without the ability to organize/coordinate like in any other countries, so most (if not all) of them came without knowing whether or not they will be alone in their protest. And yet they still did it
Don't underestimate the will of the average Chinese netizen.
 
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>Russia is collapsing
>China is collapsing
>Iran is collapsing
>Brazil is set to implode
>Franco-Germanic Europe is going to kill itself
>Turkey's economy is going to shit
>Nigeria might collapse
>North Korea might prolapse
>Hungary might relapse
>Ukraine (basically an equally corrupt, smaller version of Russia) might ultimately end up bifurcated
>Qatar is getting scrutinized more and more, and its soft power is all but annihilated
>Justin Trudeau is getting investigated
>Pakistan is getting flooded
>Sri Lanka already imploded

Gentlemen, even though it might be shit now, don't you all love living in the Great Republic of the United States of America?
More than anything in the world
This is fake news. The footage in question is from Taiwan, where the people are protesting against Western capitalist oppression.
I love how two people couldn't tell this was a joke.
 
African nations always do this on days that end with the letter "Y" so it doesn't really count IMO.
I would be more surprised if it was one of the more stable African countries collapsing/imploding, like Botswana, Namibia, Malawi, Zambia or Kenya.

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Wuhan Flu protests - Updates from the BBC (archive)

Chinese universities send students home en masse after weekend protests

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Chinese authorities on Monday appeared to be moving to frame a wave of nationwide anti-lockdown protests at the weekend as the work of "hostile foreign forces," with university students ordered to leave campus and go back to their hometowns aboard specially arranged train services, state media and a university source said on Monday.

Tsinghua University, where thousands of students gathered in protest on Sunday following a deadly apartment block fire in the Xinjiang regional capital of Urumqi on Nov. 24 that many blamed on stringent COVID-19 lockdown measures, is offering free bus services for students to all major Beijing railway stations and airports so they can return to their hometowns, the English-language Global Times newspaper reported on Monday.

Similar measures are under way at the University of International Business and Economics and the Chinese Academy of Sciences to "help students return home," the paper reported.

University sources in Shanghai and Sichuan told Radio Free Asia that the Ministry of Education had convened an emergency meeting of hundreds of ruling Chinese Communist Party secretaries and college principals across the country, calling on them to counter "interference by foreign forces," after spontaneous protests on city streets and university campuses in over a dozen cities over the weekend.

All colleges and universities must do a good job of "ideological work" with students and take strict measures to prevent students from "colluding" with foreign forces, or foreign forces from "interfering," the colleges were told.

"The university leaders, mostly Communist Party secretaries, from universities all around the country were called in for an emergency meeting on Sunday afternoon, and temporary control measures have been deployed, with students told to go home early," a graduate of Fudan University's journalism faculty told RFA on Monday.

"The protests were particularly loud at Tsinghua University, but campuses across the country were pretty quiet again by the early hours [of Monday morning]," the person said.

"A lot of people here in Shanghai took part spontaneously yesterday," they said.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian on Monday hit out at "forces with ulterior motives who linked the fire with disease control and prevention," while state news agency Xinhua said in an indirect reference to the protests that the zero-COVID policy is facing "unprecedented pressure," and called for its "unswerving" implementation.


Blank sheets of paper

In Beijing's Liangmaqiao area, protesters who held up blank sheets of paper to protest curbs on freedom of expression didn't disperse until the early hours of Monday, according to video footage posted by a Twitter user with the handle "Ms. Li is not your teacher."

In one video clip, students said they had been warned by university officials that there were "anti-China foreign forces" at work in the protests, prompting some people to shout out in response: "When you say foreign forces, are you talking about Marx and Engels?" in a reference to two of the pillars of Communist Party ideology.

"Was the fire in Xinjiang set by foreign forces? Was the Guizhou [quarantine] bus overturned by foreign forces?” shouts one voice. "We can’t even access the internet! How is that to do with foreign forces? The only forces stopping us from gathering come from within our own territory!"

Clips showed a strong police presence, with officers starting to detain people in the middle of the night, and "kettling" the crowd into smaller sections to force them to leave.

The Global Times said in a separate article, citing pro-government commentators, that "due to ideological differences, it has become almost an instinct of Western countries and media to criticize communist governments with an aim to subvert the latter with color revolutions."

"Some forces in the U.S. and other Western countries can't accept that China has the capacity to adjust its policy in a more flexible way and contain the virus," it quoted "observers" as saying.

In another article, the paper said the Health Ministry had dispatched working groups to ensure local governments aren't using harsher restrictions than required by the zero-COVID policy, "to rectify some problems" that have emerged with disease control and prevention efforts.


‘The whole thing could explode’

A retired government official surnamed Li currently living in Beijing said the authorities are afraid students will start a much more coordinated movement.

"There is a huge sense of public grievance right now, and the Tsinghua University students are up in arms," Li said. "Students are protesting, and scholars are already mobilizing."

"Hundreds of students at Tsinghua held up signs calling for freedom, and we saw similar signs on Urumqi Road in Shanghai and also in Shenzhen," Li said. "It's happening everywhere, and students from all over the country [are likely to connect their protests], while residential communities are rising up too."

"If they mishandle this, the whole thing could explode, because regular people can't carry on like this; they may as well fight," Li said.


‘The right to breathe’

Feng Han, a retired scholar from Guizhou University who lived through the student movement of 1989, said the struggle is an existential one, rather than an ideological one.

"These [protests] are about the right to breathe, to eat, to live, to enjoy human rights and freedom, not PCR tests," Feng said. "In that sense, they are anti-authoritarian, anti-repression and anti-dictatorship."

"[Zero-COVID] has been going on for three years, and a lot of people can't even get food to eat [during lockdowns]," Feng said. "If people can't carry on a basic existence, can't work or live their lives in a normal manner, then there are going to be problems."

Hong Kong current affairs commentator Johnny Lau said the protests have yet to become nationwide in focus.

"We're not at the point of nationwide protests yet, and it remains to be seen if the authorities will make adjustments before that critical point is reached," Lau told RFA.

"If the government acts in a timely manner, that critical point won't be reached soon ... These are sporadic protests that are making the government nervous," he said.

Beijing-based political commentator Si Ling said the government is unlikely to ease back on the zero-COVID policy, however.

"If the Chinese government announces the end of zero-COVID just because of popular protest, then it will give the impression that democratic protests are effective in influencing its decision-making," Si told RFA.

"That will spark further protests from the public ... so they can't afford to give any breathing room to street protests and demonstrations whatsoever," he said. "It will also look as if the entire zero-COVID policy was totally wrong, and a waste of money and people."

"That is something that Xi Jinping will never allow, because for him, the most important thing is to preserve his ... authority, continuity and effectiveness within the central leadership system," Si said.

Former 1989 student leader Wang Dan said a strategic lull in protests would be a good thing.

"The struggle is long-term, and there must be a rhythm," Wang told RFA. "Based on our experience back then, we didn't do a good job at this point. We should have advanced and then retreated, so as to advance again another time."

"Don't try to tear everything down all at once like we did in 1989."
 
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why would Xi continue zero covid after the party congress, otherwise?
Xi staked his entire reputation on zero covid. U-turning on it now, even after securing essentially a lifetime presidency, would be a massive loss of face. His culture won't let him do anything other than double down on all of the previous errors.
 
Xi staked his entire reputation on zero covid. U-turning on it now, even after securing essentially a lifetime presidency, would be a massive loss of face. His culture won't let him do anything other than double down on all of the previous errors.
Xi is Emperor of China, he can define Chinese culture. All that "Mandate of Heaven" stuff allows him to do so as long as he is able to bring prosperity to people who can directly influence the commoners.
 
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and when it does, it will take most of China's economy with it.
You mean the world economy, since our bankers were allowed to "invest" our money on the massive ponzi scheme that were real estate companies like evergrande, perhaps thinking that much like western governments the ccp considers such firms to be "too big to fail" and would keep them going.

Turns out the ccp is more like "lol who cares" making the contagion effect to the west unavoidable.
“Nothing to lose, everything to gain, so fuck it.”
They can still get detained, jailed, tortured, assets seized, family social score below zero so they cant even ride a train, and finally shot and their organs harvested.

Compare that with burning cop cars in the west, oh no don't slap my wrist! ouchie!
 
Shit really is hitting the fan, hopefully this does not die down quietly.

Barely nothing is happening here in the philippines other than faggot elites fucking each other over business and politics and food prices soaring.
This is not directed at you but the amount of doom and crying over marcos is sooooo fucking overblown, why do foreigners think we'll be fucked? We're already fucked since the beginning of this nation, just because the retard losing party (who are very much the mirror of amerimutt democrats) and flip mainstream media(typical journoscum tactics are also applied here) cries to westerners about marcos or duterte doesn't mean we're now in a dark era. My 3rd world shithole always had corrupt government, it's just the new rulers are not in line with the past politcal rulers (like big business oligarchs). the anti-current government politcal group loves to paint themselves as good people as if their politicians didn't silently kill off people they don't like way way before dutere ever allegedly did. And we're always gonna be china's bitch, almost all the non-franchise stores that are big have rich chink owners with billions of chinese products (because it's cheap).
In my opinon BB Marcos is not gonna do anything tyranical in definition because he's gonna be dealing with manila city scum politics for years. Too much fucking corruption from the top to the bottom, so no I'm not that worried about the new president and vice president because whats the difference? At least it's not another manila faggot in charge.
If bongbong is no biggie then where's that damn Voltes V live action
 
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They can still get detained, jailed, tortured, assets seized, family social score below zero so they cant even ride a train, and finally shot and their organs harvested.
Getting arrested vs. burning to death in your apartment because the firefighters can't get to you and you can't leave.

Fuck it, the cops can't arrest everybody.
 
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