Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

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Can do a whole study on how Ukraine memes evolved throughout the years. Here are a couple from '45.
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Late 80 or early 90s, I think. Anyone got a source on this one?
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Another seething nigger who didn't bother even reading the article before his asspain prompted him to reply.

> 20 nations figure comes from the New York Times article quoted by ZH: https://archive.ph/MXghW
> "senior official" is clearly referring to Josep Borrell (source: https://archive.ph/jX1gu )
> Thales, Dassault, Rhinemetal, Airbus are all being artificially propped up by taxpayer money that is being drained from every other source. The UK can't even keep its lights on, for example.

I get that selective illiteracy is the favorite defense mechanism of the seething NATO nigger, but it's just plain embarrassing now. Did you learn to read in America? Want me to repeat it in Spanish?

To the Europeans here, try answering these questions. Don't answer to me, answer to yourself.

- How many Russian army bases and Russian troops are in your country right now, and how many American army bases and American troops are in your country now?
- How much political influence does Russia have on your government, and how much political influence does America have?
- Are you free to practice your nation's culture and follow your nation's values, or are you forced to accept Russian values and culture, or are you forced to accept American values and culture? That includes LGBT rights, BLM rights, accepting refugees, etc.

Now do you understand who is the biggest threat to your nation's independence?
Can I ask you a genuine question, have you been to Western Europe in the last few months? Things aren't great but this idea that the West is going to collapse any second now is absurd.

To answer your questions, there are no Russian military in this country, mostly because Russia's military couldn't fight it's way out of a wet paper bag much less invade a country 100s of miles away. As for the US bases, the idea that friendly and willing cooperation is beyond your comprehension speaks more about you and whatever shithole you where born in.

Again, Russia has no political influence because it is simply too incompetent to influence a nation without threatening said nation and for as stupid as the Russian government is, even they know threatening someone with nukes is a bad idea.

Yes? I going to assume you're Russian so here's the same question back at you, can you practice or hold US/Western values and culture or will big daddy government send the Stasi to put their jackboots on your neck? Why do I have to submit my freedom to anyone in your mind, why are you obsessed with this master/slave dynamic that exists in your head?

The biggest threat to my independence is the chimp throwing it's shit around at the boards of civilization.
 
Autistically focusing on the quantity of russian shell spam is missing the point.

I've managed to get the analysis to load now (weird networking issue, tor to the rescue I guess), but it doesn't actually address the issues I've raised. We know that Russia loves its artillery spam, but we don't know if they're using new shells, or depleting the enormous stockpiles Russia is supposed to have. The analysis doesn't even touch it. Nothing in the article touches it. There's literally no examination of the situation, other than "Russia shoots a lot of shells". Pointing to other places that say "Russia shoots a lot of shells" still doesn't address the question of their manufacturing capacity.

It also doesn't address US stockpiles. It says the US is sending a lot of aid, which is already known, but there is nothing about how much the US actually has stored. The actual argument of the analysis isn't that the US stockpile is being drained dry, because most of the aid going to Ukraine isn't taken from that stockpile, but that Ukraine's predicted, future purchases of NATO-standard weapons will take time to manufacture.

IOW, the article is, as I said, the Industrial side of the MIC, lobbying the government to start giving them money now rather than waiting until later, so that they can ramp up production to meet the anticipated Ukrainian contracts. All the talk about this being a signal that NATO is running out of bombs is cope; they aren't. It's a bunch of weapons manufacturers shaping opinion so they can get paid.
I wish you luck looking into this fren because the Russians are obviously going to keep it a tightly guarded secret until they stop the artillery spam, at which point we can pretty safely conclude they've run out of shells.

If I had to venture a guess, I'd say the Russians are going to run out of munitions first. The US has a multi-billion-dollar military industrial complex and will eventually overcome the current material shortage. I've said this before and I'll say it again: the longer this drags out, the worse it looks for Russia. The west is pouring money and material into Ukraine like it's Israel 2.0. Russia's entire economy is the size of Texas, which is just a single US state. The math says the US will eventually outproduce them.

I think Russia's only option to win an extended conflict is the near wholesale extermination of the Ukrainians. They need Ukraine to run out of manpower before the Russian artillery runs out of ammunition because the Ukrainians will never run out of munitions at this rate. This is probably why they've started bombing civilian targets.
 
Can I ask you a genuine question, have you been to Western Europe in the last few months? Things aren't great but this idea that the West is going to collapse any second now is absurd.
I've been to a collapsing western nation within the last few months, yes.

To answer your questions, there are no Russian military in this country, mostly because Russia's military couldn't fight it's way out of a wet paper bag much less invade a country 100s of miles away. As for the US bases, the idea that friendly and willing cooperation is beyond your comprehension speaks more about you and whatever shithole you where born in.
So you're occupied by a foreign military, but because they're not Russian and they produce the same cultural goyslop that you consumed while growing up, you're okay with it. Got it.

Again, Russia has no political influence because it is simply too incompetent to influence a nation without threatening said nation and for as stupid as the Russian government is, even they know threatening someone with nukes is a bad idea.
Yet they somehow got all of Europe hooked on Russian oil. Or rather, the Americans encouraged it, as long as Europe doesn't develop their own energy sources.

Yes? I going to assume you're Russian so here's the same question back at you, can you practice or hold US/Western values and culture or will big daddy government send the Stasi to put their jackboots on your neck? Why do I have to submit my freedom to anyone in your mind, why are you obsessed with this master/slave dynamic that exists in your head?
You can be as gay as you want to in Moscow. That's what "western values" mean 99% of the time. Nobody cares as long as you're "practicing western values" in the bedroom, not holding parades for it, and not advertising it to children.

The biggest threat to my independence is the chimp throwing it's shit around at the boards of civilization.
Look, it thinks it's civilized.
 
I wish you luck looking into this fren because the Russians are obviously going to keep it a tightly guarded secret until they stop the artillery spam, at which point we can pretty safely conclude they've run out of shells.

If I had to venture a guess, I'd say the Russians are going to run out of munitions first. The US has a multi-billion-dollar military industrial complex and will eventually overcome the current material shortage. I've said this before and I'll say it again: the longer this drags out, the worse it looks for Russia. The west is pouring money and material into Ukraine like it's Israel 2.0. Russia's entire economy is the size of Texas, which is just a single US state. The math says the US will eventually outproduce them.
I'm not sure what Russia's production capacity is for basic munitions, they are definitely running out of all of their modern missiles and other equipment but I haven't heard anything about shortages of any ammunition. However if Ukraine continues hitting their logistics and cutting off supply lines they might end up running out just due to the inability to get them where they need to be in time.
I think Russia's only option to win an extended conflict is the near wholesale extermination of the Ukrainians. They need Ukraine to run out of manpower before the Russian artillery runs out of ammunition because the Ukrainians will never run out of munitions at this rate. This is probably why they've started bombing civilian targets.
Pretty much, the biggest problem is they're not inflicting the kind of lopsided casualties that could make a war of attrition remotely feasible and are completely incapable of mobilizing their population effectively. Russia can't even equip the 300,000 draftees so far let alone the millions needed for a war of attrition.
 
I think it depends more on the relevancy to the US of said nation. I think a large chunk of countries could leave without much of a fuss. Like i highly doubt anyone would be bothered by Macedonia leaving NATO. If one of the Baltic states or Turkey however decided to leave that would be a pretty big deal to the US. They'd lose bases near Russia, they'd lose guarenteed access to the Black Sea, etc etc. That's why i think Finland might have accidentally fucked itself by joining NATO as it's gonna end up as an indefinite proxy border guard for the US.

Forget about other places like SK and Japan. I mean hell they're restructuring the whole of the USMC to fight China, i doubt they're gonna budge on their Japan bases despite the fact there has been a legitimate decades long movement in Japan to get rid of the US bases (partly due to the fact that the marines seem to commit so much crime there).
Good points all. Though I'd say keep in mind the old summary of NATO's purpose being to "keep the Americans in, the Russians out and Germany down". Germany's utility as a staging ground might be lessened if they can get countries further East but keeping it in NATO also means that it is not independent and building up its own self-sufficient military. Or worse, getting friendlier with Russia. The US haven't been trying to kill the Nordstream 2 pipeline all these years for nothing. They hate good relations between Germany and Russia.
 
Can I ask you a genuine question, have you been to Western Europe in the last few months? Things aren't great but this idea that the West is going to collapse any second now is absurd.

To answer your questions, there are no Russian military in this country, mostly because Russia's military couldn't fight it's way out of a wet paper bag much less invade a country 100s of miles away. As for the US bases, the idea that friendly and willing cooperation is beyond your comprehension speaks more about you and whatever shithole you where born in.

Again, Russia has no political influence because it is simply too incompetent to influence a nation without threatening said nation and for as stupid as the Russian government is, even they know threatening someone with nukes is a bad idea.

Yes? I going to assume you're Russian so here's the same question back at you, can you practice or hold US/Western values and culture or will big daddy government send the Stasi to put their jackboots on your neck? Why do I have to submit my freedom to anyone in your mind, why are you obsessed with this master/slave dynamic that exists in your head?

The biggest threat to my independence is the chimp throwing it's shit around at the boards of civilization.
I live in the West and it literally collapsed yesterday.
 
The biggest threat to my independence is the chimp throwing it's shit around at the boards of civilization.
I don't know where you live but for me that isn't so. I'm in Europe. I see no threat of Russian forces threatening my independence now or any time in the future. They're so far away from that it's absurd to talk about. All the threats to my independence come from my own state. Their allowance of unrestrained immigration of people with wildly different culture, hate speech laws that prevent me from calling a man what he is, insane money printing that diminishes my savings by the month. I could go a long time. The biggest threat to my independence is not Russia and if you live anywhere in Western Europe or even more so, the USA, then it's not yours either.
 
Can we discuss some more about those mythical "western values" that everyone in Europe is dying to protect? What exactly are they, considering current year? Other than homosexuality and pedophilia, of course.
It's very simple: Ukraine is willing to hosts kiwifarms, Russia is not. Therefore we must support Ukraine.
 
They are getting the book thrown at them but they illegally entered into the US Capitol after a riot, if they did that to the Duma they'd all be fucking dead. I am a part of my local Republican Party and we hold rallies where we shit talk Biden all the time and support candidates who want to do nothing but stop his agenda and we just elected a representative to congress who is part of a majority that will block everything he wants to do. When you can do that in Russia get back to me, till then you're a peasant licking the boot Putin.
Haven't noticed any Republicans taking a mysterious fall out of a hospital window, either.
 
You know no one takes Roskomnadzor seriously and just ignores their shit, right?
Not sure why you're claiming the block didn't happen or something

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I'm just going to quote Null on this one:
DDoS Mitigation
DDoS-Guard will drop us dropped us while I was writing this post. This meme about Russia being a free country is a joke. The US is a free country, but with no stewards to protect it. Without the US, there is no second best. I did not expect Cloudflare to crumple so quickly and I don't have a Plan C for DDoS mitigation.
 
You do realize that Null also just made the site completely unavailable in the free speech bastions of Germany and Austria, right? Don't think anyone is winning this contest. Free speech hasn't been a "western value" in a long time, it's not the 90's anymore.
I do not care about Germany and Austria. However, if Kyiv surrenders tomorrow and the site becomes unstable, I shall be very sad. Therefore I hope that Ukraine wins.
 
I do not care about Germany and Austria. However, if Kyiv surrenders tomorrow and the site becomes unstable, I shall be very sad. Therefore I hope that Ukraine wins.
To the best of my knowledge, the farms are now hosted on Terrahost which is a Norwegian company. The Ukrainian host was used temporarily only to serve a single static webpage which barely used any bandwidth.

Don't forget that Telegram is also Russian, and they kept the KF chat and Null's announcements up throughout all that time, which is more than any single western company has done.
 
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