Containment Thread for Russia-Ukraine faggots to bitch about whose shambolic corrupt society is better than the other's

[Badungus Kabungus]

Freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, right to a fair trial.

Lmao, tell the Jan 6th dissidents that.

 

[siegemeister675]

Lmao, tell the Jan 6th dissidents that.

They are getting the book thrown at them but they illegally entered into the US Capitol after a riot, if they did that to the Duma they'd all be fucking dead. I am a part of my local Republican Party and we hold rallies where we shit talk Biden all the time and support candidates who want to do nothing but stop his agenda and we just elected a representative to congress who is part of a majority that will block everything he wants to do. When you can do that in Russia get back to me, till then you're a peasant licking the boot Putin.

 

[Fools Idol]

What freedoms did Putin take from you, retard? You can't even define "western values" but you think all Ukrainians need to die to defend them.

Now, now, just because you don't like my answer doesn't mean I didn't answer you. Also, I don't think that the Ukrainians need to die for anything other than what they believe in. Like, you do know they aren't being forced to fight the Russians right? They aren't defending me or my values, they are defending themselves in their values form you guessed it, Russia and Putin.

So are you going to answer my question about those Russian values that give them the right to invade Ukrainian? What give Putin the right to take anything form Ukraine.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Now, now, just because you don't like my answer doesn't mean I didn't answer you. Also, I don't think that the Ukrainians need to die for anything other than what they believe in. Like, you do know they aren't being forced to fight the Russians right? They aren't defending me or my values, they are defending themselves in their values form you guessed it, Russia and Putin.

So are you going to answer my question about those Russian values that give them the right to invade Ukrainian? What give Putin the right to take anything form Ukraine.

If you can't even define the "western values" that are so precious to you which you can't practice in Russia, then your question is worthless.

They are getting the book thrown at them but they illegally entered into the US Capitol after a riot, if they did that to the Duma they'd all be fucking dead. I am a part of my local Republican Party and we hold rallies where we shit talk Biden all the time and support candidates who want to do nothing but stop his agenda and we just elected a representative to congress who is part of a majority that will block everything he wants to do. When you can do that in Russia get back to me, till then you're a peasant licking the boot Putin.

So now it's a riot? It was a peaceful protest, Rachel Maddow.

In Russia they would've gotten a $200 fine, spent a night at the local police station, and got sent home. Compared to the US where one of the protesters was publicly executed by cop, the rest were illegally thrown in jail, after which one of the protesters ended up committing suicide.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...6-rioter-dies-by-suicide-ahead-of-sentencing/ Is this a sign of a functioning legal system?

Edit: LMAO @ your republican support group where you bravely talk shit about Biden behind his back after the 2020 election was stolen from you. Fucking pathetic.

 

[Fools Idol]

If you can't even define the "western values" that are so precious to you which you can't practice in Russia, then your question is worthless.

Okay then, I support and would die to protect the right for same sex couples to marry. So you going to answer my question as to why Ukrainians and Russians for that matter need to die in this war?

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Okay then, I support and would die to protect the right for same sex couples to marry. So you going to answer my question as to why Ukrainians and Russians for that matter need to die in this war?

None of your business what Russia does on its own land, which is what Ukraine is. Americans should be more concerned with their own dwindling freedoms.

"Western values" are being rejected all around the world, from Kabul to Moscow to Shanghai to Tokyo to Mumbai. Vast majority of the planet's population associates "western values" with the worst kind of degeneracy, and for a good reason too.

 

[Fools Idol]

None of your business what Russia does on its own land. Americans should be more concerned with their own dwindling freedoms.

I'm just going to assume you can't answer my question. Why is it Russia's business what Ukraine does on it's own land? Was that a tacit admission that Russians are losing their freedoms? We're making progress boys.

 

[Fools Idol]

"Western values" are being rejected all around the world, from Kabul to Moscow to Shanghai to Tokyo to Mumbai. Vast majority of the planet's population associates "western values" with the worst kind of degeneracy, and for a good reason too.

Not in Ukraine apparently or for the millions of Russians who flee Russia the first moment they get. Where do you think they go? Mumbai? Shanghai? Oh that's right it New York and London, funny that.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Not sure why you're claiming the block didn't happen or something

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I'm just going to quote Null on this one:

You do realize that Null also just made the site completely unavailable in the free speech bastions of Germany and Austria, right? Don't think anyone is winning this contest. Free speech hasn't been a "western value" in a long time, it's not the 90's anymore.

I'm just going to assume you can't answer my question. Why is it Russia's business what Ukraine does on it's own land? Was that a tacit admission that Russians are losing their freedoms? We're making progress boys.

I see you have a problem understanding a basic concept, which is that "Ukraine" is Russian land, and has been so for hundreds of years since it was added to the Russian Empire by Catherine the Great.

Not in Ukraine apparently or for the millions of Russians who flee Russia the first moment they get. Where do you think they go? Mumbai? Shanghai? Oh that's right it New York and London, funny that.

The individuals who "fled" went to Tbilisi and Riga, and they're back now because their parents' money ran out. Why bother going to New York or London when they can go see the same faggots and migrants at home in Moscow? Speaking of western values, there you go, by the way. Russian liberals cried about it just like American liberals cried about Trump being elected and "fled" to Canada, then got over it.

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

It's very simple: Ukraine is willing to hosts kiwifarms, Russia is not. Therefore we must support Ukraine.

This is actually the most compelling argument in support of Ukraine that I've heard this entire war.

All jokes aside though, I'm pretty sure Ukrainian companies told KF to piss off too. Not sure where it's hosted now, but I don't think it's Ukraine.

Okay. Simply just Freedom™

Gentle reminder that by definition, Freedom is incompatible with Democracy. Two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner, and all that.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

If you can't even define the "western values" that are so precious to you which you can't practice in Russia, then your question is worthless.

You don't get a 15 year prison sentence for non-violently protesting a war.

And no, the capitol 6th rioters were not innocent, nonviolent protestors.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

Oh god, three pages of discussion about free speech...someone's going to summon that faggot janitor and he's going to have a whine again.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

If the amount of autistic slapfighting in the past three threads of this was converted into something useful, we probably would have came up with something as major as solving nuclear fusion.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

You don't get a 15 year prison sentence for non-violently protesting a war.

Yeah, you just get executed by soldiers, like at Kent State.

 

[Fools Idol]

I see you have a problem understanding a basic concept, which is that "Ukraine" is Russian land, and has been so for hundreds of years since it was added to the Russian Empire by Catherine the Great.

Not to the people who live there apparently otherwise they wouldn't be fighting. I'll ask it again because I'm genuinely curious, do the people of Ukraine not have a right to say no to Russia? Actually both Russia and Ukraine are the rightful clay of the Neolithic farmers who settled thousands of years before the Russian Empire.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Not to the people who live there apparently otherwise they wouldn't be fighting. I'll ask it again because I'm genuinely curious, do the people of Ukraine not have a right to say no to Russia? Actually both Russia and Ukraine are the rightful clay of the Neolithic farmers who settled thousands of years before the Russian Empire.

What right did NATO have to overthrow the legitimate Ukrainian government back in 2014, which sparked the latest iteration of this conflict? Didn't the people of Ukraine have the right to elect their own leader? Did the people of Ukraine not have a right to say no to NATO?

Oh. Go Norway, I guess. I support whichever side Norway is on, in that case.

I do appreciate that certain Scandinavian countries still seem to believe in actual free speech, despite all the pressure from the anglos to make it go away.

 

[Suck the Cock]

What right did NATO have to overthrow the legitimate Ukrainian government back in 2014, which sparked the latest iteration of this conflict? Didn't the people of Ukraine have the right to elect their own leader? Did the people of Ukraine not have a right to say no to NATO?

On one hand, I'm glad Kiwifarms is a place where retards can post their hot takes without worrying about getting banned, but surely you have something better to do? I came here to have fun discussions about slavs getting bombed to shit, and there's always one blatant shill who has to respond to literally every post with some incomprehensible whataboutism. It wouldn't be so annoying if it weren't so obvious that you're trying to avoid any actual discussion or concrete statements that could potentially be argued against.

 

[Fools Idol]

What right did NATO have to overthrow the legitimate Ukrainian government back in 2014, which sparked the latest iteration of this conflict? Didn't the people of Ukraine have the right to elect their own leader?

You're not answering the question again but that's okay. Let's say for the sake of argument that your right NATO did "overthrow the legitimate" government, so then why would the Ukrainian people put up so much resistance then? Surely they should be welcoming their liberators with open arms not guns and bombs. Seems like they like Zelensky to me.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

You're not answering the question again but that's okay. Let's say for the sake of argument that your right NATO did "overthrow the legitimate" government, so then why would the Ukrainian people put up so much resistance then? Surely they should be welcoming their liberators with open arms not guns and bombs. Seems like they like Zelensky to me.

You seem to be blissfully unaware of how NATO-backed NGOs infiltrate and influence countries to exploit certain segments of the population (assmad nationalist minority groups with a grudge against the current administration), so maybe educate yourself on that first, and then come back into this discussion with some clearer understanding of what led to this conflict.

Hint: Putin didn't just wake up one day in February of 2022 and said "today I'm going to invade Ukraine because I'm evil" like the western media likes to portray.

To sum things up based on previous discussion, we've established that "western values" are: Pedophilia, homosexuality, transgenderism and freedom of speech*

*freedom of speech only available in certain Scandinavian countries, only as long as you're willing to pay for premium service, and only if you stay anonymous as not to get doxed by trannies and fired from your job

 

[Fools Idol]

You seem to be blissfully unware of how NATO-backed NGOs infiltrate and influence countries to exploit certain segments of the population (assmad nationalist minority groups with a grudge against the current administration), so maybe educate yourself on that first, and then come back into this discussion with some clearer understanding of what led to this conflict.

Hint: Putin didn't just wake up one day in February of 2022 and said "today I'm going to invade Ukraine because I'm evil." If you believe that, come back here in 6 years when you turn 18.

And yet the people still fight. I understand that NATO's general competence at everything it does seems almost like magic to Russia but are you under the impression that NATO and these NGO's "tricked" the 43 million people in Ukraine to kill and die to keep their homeland free from Russia? Because it isn't a minority nationalist group fighting here, it's the whole country.

You are right about one thing, Putin didn't just wake up one day and decide to invade, he's been planning this for decades.

Also I went back and noticed that you edited a reply to one of my posts where you talk about cattle and wolves and start making up shit about "backchannels" where Russian oil is secretly being imported into Europe. What's all that about bro?