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Which is why Barb is where she is now. As you said, even if Chris wasn't found be the net, he'd still be Chris. Hell, he may have had more romps with Barb even earlier than 2020.
Given how Chris was the original virgin with rage, the incest saga would probably have happened anyways.

Vine says he’s in jail.
What the fuck is Heilberg doing lol. It's like he managed to pull this insane move that nobody saw coming during the hearing and now he's gone back to ignoring Chris. I assume there's things going on that we don't know because of the sealed records, but you'd think the case would have more developments than "let's wait for a year".
 
gay thoughts he was having
Yeah let's just ignore he openly admitted to wanting to fuck a Collie or being topped by a woman.
His hatred of things goes way beyond just hating gays for being gay. He hated himself utterly.
I'm not changing the conversation to tranny bashing, but let's not forget the main point of the fetish.
Escapism. All Chris is at his very core is escapism. He will either escape the confines of reality or project his perception onto anyone. Whichever works in the moment.
Since the internet usually leaves him powerless to project his reality onto others. The former is the only option.

I can only imagine a world where Chris could project himself onto others.
You think Barb Breaking is bad, the sheer depravity I am imagining now is leaving me embarrassed a bit.
And to put your mind at ease you are not misunderstanding autism.
This is beyond autism, this is branching mental illnesses facilitated (or perhaps catalyzed depending on how you look) by autism.
 
It's not like he did all these rituals to make sure he didn't like Sonic Boom or Xbox.
Sonic Boom and Xbox weren’t condemned by his church, community, and parents. Hating on gays used to be more OK.

What the fuck is Heilberg doing lol.
Trying to find somewhere to put Chris. Beds in tard homes don’t grow on trees.

Yeah let's just ignore he openly admitted to wanting to fuck a Collie
He didn’t say he wanted to. A troll girl maneuvered the conversation and got him to say what he said so people would point to it and say, “See! Chris wants to diddle dogs!”

or being topped by a woman.
Don’t knock it til you try it. Very common and (I’m told) enjoyable for the man.

His hatred of things goes way beyond just hating gays for being gay. He hated himself utterly.
He hated being a man.
 
Yeah let's just ignore he openly admitted to wanting to fuck a Collie or being topped by a woman.
Common myth. He didn't openly admit to wanting to fuck a collie, it's obvious from the context of the IRC that PandaHalo (troll) had been telling (lying to) Chris about her bestiality fetish and trying to pressure him into agreeing (so you can have your lulz). Remember that the vast majority of chat logs where the trolls maneuvered and manipulated him into saying and doing funny things were never released. For example, Chris didn't come up with Twin Falling Towers on his own.
23:18 <@PandaHalo> it's how i learnt about dog sex
23:20 <@ChrisChanSonichu> speaking of animal sex, I've thought about it some more, and if you help me with that and watch, I may do it with a female dog for you.

It's clear that this wasn't an Original Chris Idea™. Also, having sex with a woman is objectively not gay unless you're Nick Fuentes.
You think Barb Breaking is bad, the sheer depravity I am imagining now is leaving me embarrassed a bit.
Why the fuck are you imagining this shit? Are you one of those people obsessed with Chris/Barb rapefics?
 
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Why the fuck are you imagining this shit?
Why are you on a Siberian Spelunking Enthusiast forum? We all do weird things. let's not imagine a hypothetical is the weirdest thing you've come across here.
(also protip editing your entire post almost entirely after it was on there for minutes is really weird.)
He didn't openly admit to wanting to fuck a collie,
A troll girl maneuvered the conversation
Would Chris have performed acts on an animal if he thought a greater reward was given.
If so i'll admit I was wrong and change it to "he was willing."
Don’t knock it til you try it. Very common and (I’m told) enjoyable for the man.
Senpai not for me.
He hated being a man.
Sure he hated being a man.
He also hates his extreme weight and regularly projects about that. Despite the fact he literally weighs more than a heavy weight competition body builder in season and more than some bodybuilders out of season when they are their fattest. He will always cope with "I am not fat" he knows he is and he 100% hates himself for it.
He hates his mental facilities. He regularly talks about how his brain isn't working right.
Chris objectively hates his entire life, because all he has is his misery. Brought on by himself, and projects it always upon the trolls or some other figure.
I don't think there is much argument that Chris under that pathetic, defeatist sigh, isn't hate.
Sure the years of estradiol abuse have probably nerfed that primal teenage rage of hormones (as has age), but let's not act like Chris isn't always complaining and complaining in itself shows either negativity in general or negativity towards someone else. Which is really just a polite way to say hate.
 
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This place wasn't the same after the shit hit the fan, but at least we still h ad some jail saga content to know what the little jailbird was up too. Now with the case sealed and pretty much all communication with Chris seemingly cut off. It just feels empty around here. If Chris wasn't the golden cow we owe this site's very existence too, he'd have been rendered an inactive cow of history a long time ago.
 
(also protip editing your entire post almost entirely after it was on there for minutes is really weird.)
Protip editing your posts to correct typos and formatting mistakes/add in sources and quotations/because another thought came to mind is preferable to doubleposting, any janny on here will tell you that.

Why are you on a Siberian Spelunking Enthusiast forum? We all do weird things. let's not imagine a hypothetical is the weirdest thing you've come across here.
Imagining Chris doing depraved things is not necessarily weird. However, imagining Chris partaking in acts that make you self-admittedly embarrassed to think about, proceeding to tell KF that you thought of such things, and telling us that you were embarrassed about it, now that is interesting. Do you happen to have anything else that you are embarrassed about which you would like to share?

I bear no malice towards you, don't take shit so personally, just a suggestion to think about how much you want to share before you actually share too much, many such cases. If you're embarrassed by it, don't post it.
 
I bear no malice towards you, don't take shit so personally, just a suggestion to think about how much you want to share before you actually share too much, many such cases. If you're embarrassed by it, don't post it.
It's really not that serious, this is the internet. Keep the conversation relevant to Chris or take it to messages.
 
Common myth. He didn't openly admit to wanting to fuck a collie
While I'm not saying he'd bone an actual animal, he definitely has a greater proclivity for animals than most normal people. He draws furries having sex, his sexual fantasies involve turning into a furry, and he drew his deceased dog as a furry. Again this isn't saying he's a full on dog fucker or anything, just that he closer to doing so than your average joe (Like furry level).
Sonic Boom and Xbox weren’t condemned by his church, community, and parents. Hating on gays used to be more OK.
All the more reason he'd try in his own way to pray the gay away. He knew his thoughts would be condemned by his parents, and did everything in his power to get rid of it.
The one thing that I'm not sure of is that he's yet to really admit to liking men, even now once he's claimed to be "bisexual" but not really. Maybe Chris is just such a massive idiot he thought having any gay thought meant he was no longer straight, and I failed to account for how absolutely alien his thinking can be.
 
While I'm not saying he'd bone an actual animal, he definitely has a greater proclivity for animals than most normal people. He draws furries having sex, his sexual fantasies involve turning into a furry, and he drew his deceased dog as a furry. Again this isn't saying he's a full on dog fucker or anything, just that he closer to doing so than your average joe (Like furry level).
He's definitely at least furry-adjacent. I think the Idea Guys brainwashed him into declaring himself a furry but I don't think that counts. I don't recall him declaring attraction for non-sonic related furry characters, just Sally Acorn and a bunch of Sonichus and Rosechus.
 
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All the more reason he'd try in his own way to pray the gay away.
Exactly.

The one thing that I'm not sure of is that he's yet to really admit to liking men,
Outside of Magichan and Mewtwo daydreams, he doesn’t.

He's definitely at least furry-adjacent.
If he could afford a full Sonichu suit, he would wear it gladly. I’m pretty sure he called himself a furry before the Idea Guys showed up. I remember it being on the Cwcki way back when.

I don't recall him declaring attraction for non-sonic related furry characters, just Sally Acorn and a bunch of Sonichus and Rosechus.
That counts. Furries don’t have to be attracted to every furry out there. They have preferences too.
 
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What the fuck is Heilberg doing lol. It's like he managed to pull this insane move that nobody saw coming during the hearing and now he's gone back to ignoring Chris. I assume there's things going on that we don't know because of the sealed records, but you'd think the case would have more developments than "let's wait for a year".
I bet he is sick of Chris. I bet Chris is the first person that he's ever worked with that is so obstinate and just not caring about the trouble they're in, and actively works against his own lawyer for the dumbest of reasons. From what we know, Chris probably blabbed about everything to the police, or the investigators, etc... I guarantee those letters of Chris wanting Barb kicked out or to die made their way to the investigating authorities, and while they most likely can't be used as evidence, they sure can shed light on Chris being not remorseful for what he did. Chris coming up with "defenses" in his competency stint at Western just showed this non remorse even still, with Chris stating that no, it was his victim's fault because she "groomed" him for years, and was very abusive.

The sealed records could be because they might put Heilberg in a bad light since all his skills and lawyering have no effect on a non-insane, high functioning retarded man. Sure, they could show that Heilberg tried to help, but at the end of the day, it didn't work on Chris, which would indicate Heilberg is a bad lawyer. Good lawyers help their clients and get them the best defense possible, but with Chris, that ain't happening.

It's one thing if Chris was legitimately insane, and Heilberg can ship him out to the nut house and be done with it, but since Chris isn't, he's just a low IQ man that likes to talk about imaginary stuff, Heilberg actually has to do a lot of work.

Shipping Chris off to a year long "evaluation" is probably a last ditch effort to see if Chris really has True and Honest problems, and if Chris comes out without any issues, then it's felony incest charges at probably a prison stint. The only thing Heilberg had going for him was if Chris was legitimately insane, but he's not, he's just an egotistical man child who couldn't give two shits about what he did.
 
Good lawyers help their clients and get them the best defense possible, but with Chris, that ain't happening.
Good lawyers are obligated to do what their clients tell them to do. Like it or not, it is the client and not the lawyer who is captain of the case.

It's their job to give the best advice possible and to do the best to carry out the instructions they're given (limited only by the law and rules). If the client is a willful blithering idiot, they can't just lie to him to trick him into doing what they want.
 
If the client is a willful blithering idiot, they can't just lie to him to trick him into doing what they want.
If Chris makes a fool of himself enough to be kicked out of the courtroom. It would be the best for Heilberg who gets to operate almost autonomously at that point.
 
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Good lawyers are obligated to do what their clients tell them to do. Like it or not, it is the client and not the lawyer who is captain of the case.

It's their job to give the best advice possible and to do the best to carry out the instructions they're given (limited only by the law and rules). If the client is a willful blithering idiot, they can't just lie to him to trick him into doing what they want.
The problem with that, Heilberg went into this thinking Chris was of diminished competency, hence the world tour of having all kinds of tests and evaluations done on him. Even after the Grand Jury indictment, he's still playing it like Chris is some tard that needs help rather than a trial and prison, yet Chris is fighting him on every front.

Heilberg can't "listen to Chris" if he's playing ball that Chris is some insane retard.
 
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People keep saying Chris could never be a child molester because no parent would ever leave them alone with their kid.

It's already been explained that Chris isn't going on the sex offender registry for this. He could easily end up in an apartment complex with small children, see a 4 year old girl playing My Little Pony in the sandbox and say "Oh, you're a pegasister? Come into my apartment and I'll show you all my ponies! I can even take you to Equestria with a soulbonding"

To be honest, when Chris gets out I wouldn't be surprised if we hear of him fucking road kill because the rotting deer just needed a soulbonding heal it
 
He's definitely at least furry-adjacent. I think the Idea Guys brainwashed him into declaring himself a furry but I don't think that counts. I don't recall him declaring attraction for non-sonic related furry characters, just Sally Acorn and a bunch of Sonichus and Rosechus.
He's not a furry in the sense of interacting with the larger fandom, but he has a pretty clear sexual and general obsession with anthropomorphic animals, making him a furry by definition. I think in some alternate universe where he didn't become a brony to try and impress Meagan, he'd have declared himself a furry without manipulation and interact more with the fandom.
Diminished capacity isn't legal insanity nor is it incompetence to stand trial. They're three different things.
Wasn't Chris sent to Western because he was deemed incompetent? He was eventually released, but I wonder if that was actually because he was deemed competent or they just needed a bed and Chris was easiest to get rid of.
If Chris makes a fool of himself enough to be kicked out of the courtroom. It would be the best for Heilberg who gets to operate almost autonomously at that point.
It would make sense that if someone is a bumbling idiot who'd mess up the entire trial by refusing to cooperate, the court would allow the lawyer to just stop listening to them. If Heilberg faithfully represented Chris, Chris would very likely tell Heilberg to lie to the court and say the incest call never happened, or that Bella is a lying Judas who can't be trusted. He'd make a fool of himself and Chris would get prison time.
 
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