Trashfire YE24 Megathread - Kanye West (Ye) has announced his bid for the 2024 presidential election. In his infinite wisdom he has tapped Milo as his campaign manager. Nick has tagged along in order to desperately attempt to cling to relevance .

Local Fed said:
Stop this shit. Nick's nearing his mid-20s. He's been doing political commentary for over half a decade and has held conferences with notable American politicians; he's talked to notable figures like Alex Jones, he understands the internet side of things pretty well, once upon a time believe it or not he actually had some reasonable understanding of "optics" (which he used to preach about all of the time,) etc.

It's neither understandable or forgivable. For all of the jokes about him being the "Child leader of the white race" he's a spoiled brat and immature, but he's not a child and hasn't been for a long time. He's not just some college kid (in fact he literally hasn't been for a long time either.)
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Calm your tits, baby. Most college-educated 25 year olds can't even find Ukraine on a map, let alone tell you what something like CHIPS is and why it matters between the US and China. Most politicians in America, some with lots of experience even at the regional level, can't give you a coherent argument about their beliefs. For fucks sake, Trump is a baboon and Biden has dementia.

e: I also made it clear I think Nick isn't leadership material BECAUSE HE'S STUPID AND VAGUE.
 
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Most college-educated 25 year olds can't even find Ukraine on a map, let alone tell you what something like CHIPS is and why it matters between the US and China.
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Do you know what most college educated 25 year olds can do though? They can realize that it's a pretty retarded idea to go and have your name and face associated with a guy that you're supposedly a "loyalist" for when you have thousands of hours of video of your greatest hits like "Having sex with women is gay," "China is based, America should be more like them," and who can forget "Groypers should rape and kill for me." I'm sure that the average 25 year old can't identify why this is all extremely stupid if you're actually trying to get some serious good political agenda out there, not just clout chasing and grifting in the most embarrassing way possible.
 
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Nick is a dumb ass college kid. Him having nonexistent political chops or a vague platform is understandable. Still stupid as fuck but forgivable.
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He's 24, he's not in college, and did he even graduate?

It was vaguely forgivable for him to act cringe when he was a teenager, but been at this stuff for years now. He's too autistic to ever learn how bad he's really coming across to others and he keeps thinking because he has some fans dumb enough to praise him that it means he's winning.

Just because he still has the height of a middle schooler doesn't mean he's still a child.
 
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Calm your tits, baby. Most college-educated 25 year olds can't even find Ukraine on a map, let alone tell you what something like CHIPS is and why it matters between the US and China. Most politicians in America, some with lots of experience even at the regional level, can't give you a coherent argument about their beliefs. For fucks sake, Trump is a baboon and Biden has dementia.

e: I also made it clear I think Nick isn't leadership material BECAUSE HE'S STUPID AND VAGUE.
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Is the benchmark "most 25 year olds?" I would say the benchmark is successful 24 years. A graduate from the Ivy League, with a solid resume including prestigious internships and is now working in a respectable firm or political internship role and trying to get their MBA or J.D. Did you see DeSantis' background? Graduated from Yale and Harvard Law and served in Iraq. This is Nick's competition and Nick has the maturity of an immature college freshman, at best, or immature middle school child, at worst.

You can't gate-crash the former president and current presidential candidate and create a nation incident. It's just like J6 in the sense that he's completely reckless and out of control. Most people (except Milo, Ye and groyper spegs) would realize that they screwed up and issue an apology and it sounded like Nick realized that he made a mistake too but only gave a mild apology. Even Richard Spencer gave a press conference after the UTR disaster.

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He doesn't get it. The goal of the GOPe and Con Inc. is to win elections. If the base becomes antisemitic (and anti black and maybe even anti catholic) or the party's brand image is officially confirmed as bigoted then party wouldn't be able to win national elections. The GOP would lose the colorblind, moderate, voters, who ignore dog whistles. The GOPe is terrified of another 1964 Goldwater defeat. Free Speech ends where Brand Image starts.

As for anti Zionism. Part of it is the Zionist Lobby but part of it is that you're not allowed to question American Imperialism period and both Israel and Ukraine (and Taiwan) are part of America's Global Empire.
 
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Most college-educated 25 year olds can't even find Ukraine on a map
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I don't think that's actually true though, at least on a right-side-up map projected in the way people are used to, or at least close to it. You go to Europe (you can tell by finding Great Briton, that would help if the map is up-side-down even), go to the Black Sea, and find Crimea and the Sea of Azov. From there you can go "up and left" (or the equivalent if your map is projected weirdly), and find the rest of Ukraine. This works with no map labels or even rivers.
 
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Nick would HAVE to understand that association to him would harm Trump.
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In most cases, I’d agree with this. 24-25 isn’t too young, this is the Pührrer though, even if he did understand that, it wouldn’t stop him from riding the faggatron express into Mar a Lago. He’s a reckless dimwit who prioritizes grift buck$ over all else.
 
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In most cases, I’d agree with this. 24-25 isn’t too young, this is the Pührrer though, even if he did understand that, it wouldn’t stop him from riding the faggatron express into Mar a Lago. He’s a reckless dimwit who prioritizes grift buck$ over all else.
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I agree. His number one priority is personal fame and influence. None of the positions he ever ranted about are non-negotiable
 
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if you're defending nick you're absolutely retarded.

He brags about being a millionaire...having loads of connections politically and wanting to take over the GOP. But at the same time has NO IDEA that he's being used by Milo to hurt Trump? lmfao.

Bros a jilted lover with TPUSA, Jaden, Trump. Anyone who does not ball wash him is an enemy and he's proven this time after time. He is a naive child just like Kanye. Man Children can not be trusted with anything. If you like something they create...great. But I would never trust them to do things that men are required to do.
 
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Teehee Nick was so flustered by the Trump disavowal, MTG disavowal, and sneaking suspicion that Milo is setting him up that he forwarded a message from “Max’s GAY Den”, and later deleted it. Max’s Gay Den is run by Max Keeble Groyper, an openly gay groyper and close friend of Nick. That’s exactly what Nick needs right now, is people seeing him interacting with something GAY :lol:
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He also posted this which I missed in the article initially, Karen Giorno was billed as supportive of this whole team and now is disavowing
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In most cases, I’d agree with this. 24-25 isn’t too young, this is the Pührrer though, even if he did understand that, it wouldn’t stop him from riding the faggatron express into Mar a Lago. He’s a reckless dimwit who prioritizes grift buck$ over all else.
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Nick is technicality 24 but the avg 24 yr. old graduated from uni when they were 22 and so they've only had 2 years of real world experience.
Nick has been in the real world since 18 so his adjusted maturity should be closer to 28.
However, Nick is immature even for an 18 yr. old.
 
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if you're defending nick you're absolutely retarded.

He brags about being a millionaire...having loads of connections politically and wanting to take over the GOP. But at the same time has NO IDEA that he's being used by Milo to hurt Trump? lmfao.

Bros a jilted lover with TPUSA, Jaden, Trump. Anyone who does not ball wash him is an enemy and he's proven this time after time. He is a naive child just like Kanye. Man Children can not be trusted with anything. If you like something they create...great. But I would never trust them to do things that men are required to do.
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Well, he spergishly insists on driving his personal pet unproductive narratives, so of course he’s not invited to hang out with anyone who wants to accomplish anything.

Republican messaging is “hey, we’re fighting for your freedom” and Fuentes says some shit about wanting to emulate China. Even in his acne pocked mind, there’s no way he imagines he’s compatible.
 
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Local Fed said:
Do you know what most college educated 25 year olds can do though? They can realize that it's a pretty retarded idea to go and have your name and face associated with a guy that you're supposedly a "loyalist" for when you have thousands of hours of video of your greatest hits like "Having sex with women is gay," "China is based, America should be more like them," and who can forget "Groypers should rape and kill for me." I'm sure that the average 25 year old can't identify why this is all extremely stupid if you're actually trying to get some serious good political agenda out there, not just clout chasing and grifting in the most embarrassing way possible.
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Did you fail reading in high school? You're agreeing with me. I said he can be forgiven for having vague opinions or nonexistent political chops. He's 20 whatever and lives in his mom's basement for fucks sake. It still remains he's a dumb ass doing very dumb ass things. Don't make me pull out those embarrassing year book photos of you with the purple laces in your Doc Martens and your eyeliner, Local Fed. I like you.

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Is the benchmark "most 25 year olds?" I would say the benchmark is successful 24 years. A graduate from the Ivy League, with a solid resume including prestigious internships and is now working in a respectable firm or political internship role and trying to get their MBA or J.D. Did you see DeSantis' background? Graduated from Yale and Harvard Law and served in Iraq. This is Nick's competition and Nick has the maturity of an immature college freshman, at best, or immature middle school child, at worst.

You can't gate-crash the former president and current presidential candidate and create a nation incident. It's just like J6 in the sense that he's completely reckless and out of control. Most people (except Milo, Ye and groyper spegs) would realize that they screwed up and issue an apology and it sounded like Nick realized that he made a mistake too but only gave a mild apology. Even Richard Spencer gave a press conference after the UTR disaster.

Elijah Schaffer on Con Inc. Blacklist

He doesn't get it. The goal of the GOPe and Con Inc. is to win elections. If the base becomes antisemitic (and anti black and maybe even anti catholic) or the party's brand image is officially confirmed as bigoted then party wouldn't be able to win national elections. The GOP would lose the colorblind, moderate, voters, who ignore dog whistles. The GOPe is terrified of another 1964 Goldwater defeat. Free Speech ends where Brand Image starts.

As for anti Zionism. Part of it is the Zionist Lobby but part of it is that you're not allowed to question American Imperialism period and both Israel and Ukraine (and Taiwan) are part of America's Global Empire.
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Nick isn't any of those things though. He's an idiot with a webcam. You're legit not wrong but here we are.

Important correction, however: DeSantis sometimes presents himself as a combat veteran. He wasn't. During his time, he was a lawyer, including at Guantanamo Bay. Let that one sink in.
 
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Did you fail reading in high school? You're agreeing with me. I said he can be forgiven for having vague opinions or nonexistent political chops.
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Did you? Because I explicitly stated why the 24 year old former Boston University student shouldn't be forgiven at this point. I know what you said and I'm saying once again that it's dumb. Your position in the posts that I replied to is that he can be forgiven for being foolish and vague with his positions, mine is that while this is true, the biggest issue is that he went and put his stink on someone who he must know will be tainted by the association. It's one thing to be a live streamer, it's another thing to show up with Kanye West at a dude's house.
 
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