Nicholas Robert Rekieta / Rekieta "Law" / Actually Criminal / @NickRekieta - Polysubstance enthusiast, "Lawtuber" turned Dabbleverse streamer, swinger, "whitebread ass nigga", snuffs animals for fun, visits 🇯🇲 BBC resorts. Legally a cuckold who lost his license to practice law. Wife's bod worth $50. The normies even know.

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What would the outcome of the harassment restraining order be?

  • A WIN for the Toe against Patrick Melton.

    Votes: 63 18.2%
  • A WIN for the Toe against Nicholas Rekieta.

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • A MAJOR WIN for the Toe, it's upheld against both of them.

    Votes: 92 26.6%
  • Huge L, felted, cooked etc, it gets thrown out.

    Votes: 53 15.3%
  • A win for the lawyers (and Kiwi Farms) because it gets postponed again.

    Votes: 134 38.7%

  • Total voters
    346
Come off the biggest case of the year, maybe the decade, and what do you do? Go on vacation, for like a month. Don't stream on the road.
I'd push back on this not being a good decision. The Johnny Depp trial ground Nick down to the lowest I've ever seen him and "something" happened in that period he described as "the worst day of his life" which was never elaborated on. He needed the vacation or he was going to completely burn out.

The real bad decision was permanently altering his brain chemistry with ecstasy, LSD, and shroom power bars while on that vacation. Not to mention the pole dance for his wife and the gaggle of black women.
 
How about "I saw your daddy get drunk off his rocker and yell about 'bingers' for 10 minutes straight"? Or any of the other things he's done or said while drunk?

It's not that I don't agree with you about the photos, and I don't know how else I can emphasize that.

It's that "think of your children" is also a particularly relevant consideration for much of what's he done for years, down to his core brand.
Because getting drunk in public is a normal thing in our society. There are these buildings, usually more than one per town, where people go and drink multiple alcoholic beverages in the company of other people. Perhaps you are sheltered enough not to have ever been exposed to them, but they're usually called a 'bar,' though they can also be referred to as a 'pub,' or a 'microbrewery' if you want to be publically drunk and snobby at the same time. It may not be the kind of behavior that you'd brag about in your resume, but it's normal. Yelling about bingers may be less publically acceptable, but it's still something that's pretty normal to do with friends, and when it's done in the context of reading a schizo manifesto written by a black man, or discussing free speech, then it's something that you can defend pretty easily.

Sex is an intimate, private behavior for the vast majority of people. Strip clubs are the closest thing to bars, and they're considered seedy and degenerate. And the stripper is not your mom.
 
I dunno, man. It's not as if my vote on the matter is going to sway the position of the thread one way or another, but it just seems like normal Nick behavior to me.
I have watched Nick off and on for about five years. Several people here have too, I imagine. I think my first time watching him was pre-WW, when he covered the Tonkasaw Knoxville shitshow. Several more people can probably trace their exposure all the way back to Maddox vs. Masterson.

Until fairly recent, he never posted naked pics of his ass (with or without a bottle in it), done a sex toy review, or allowed his wife to take ludes and post them on the Internet. These are all recent occurrences. The cringy ad nauseum sex talk stuff, with respect to LR, is also fairly recent, but extends back some additional months.

It seems like he just got moved here because he got too degenerate and people were looking for excuses to finally get to say "I knew it! I knew he'd become a lolcow! I told you so!"
It got moved here because @5t3n0g0ph3r, who has been involved in Weebwars since they very beginning, and thus knows the subject matter well, saw the hypocrisy Nick was exhibiting with that ass pic, vis-à-vis the moralistic rants he served up about degeneracy during Weebwars. He made an executive decision to move the thread (or request from higher that the thread be moved) and post Rekieta's dox. Meanwhile, Null seems to concur, at least insofar as that specific assessment of Nick's hypocrisy, judging from the monologue he made on MATI. Neither has a track record of a-logging Rekieta. To wit, Sten rejected the idea that Rekieta was a cow for quite a long time.

So yes, he exceeded the "degeneracy threshold" of the powers that be. I don't think it was done to appease any specific user, or group or users, because this place pretty clearly isn't a democracy.

Also, friendly reminder to all that you don't have to loathe somebody just because they have a cow thread. Terry A. Davis is usually the goto example of this, but I personally still listen to Metokur as background noise. His thread got moved to IF ages ago too.

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I have watched Nick off and on for about five years. Several people here have too, I imagine. I think my first time watching him was pre-WW, when he covered the Tonkasaw Knoxville shitshow. Several more people can probably trace their exposure all the way back to Maddox vs. Masterson.

Until fairly recent, he never posted naked pics of his ass (with or without a bottle in it), done a sex toy review, or allowed his wife to take ludes and post them on the Internet. These are all recent occurrences. The cringely ad nauseum sex talk stuff, with respect to LR, is also fairly recent, but extends back some additional months.


It got moved here because @5t3n0g0ph3r, who has been involved in Weebwars since they very beginning, and thus knows the subject matter well, saw the hypocrisy Nick was exhibiting with that ass pic, vis-à-vis the moralistic rants he served up about degeneracy during Weebwars. He made an executive decision to move the thread (or request from higher that the thread be moved) and post Rekieta's dox. Meanwhile, Null seems to concur, at least insofar as that specific assessment of Nick's hypocrisy, judging from the monologue he made on MATI.

So yes, he exceeded the "degeneracy threshold" of the powers that be. I don't think it was done to appease any specific user, or group or users, because this place pretty clearly isn't a democracy.

Also, friendly reminder to all that you don't have to loathe somebody just because they have a cow thread. Terry A. Davis is usually the goto example of this, but I personally still listen to Metokur as background noise. His thread got moved to IF ages ago too.
I started following him during the weeb wars and even then his brand was the quirky midwestern lawyer who explains various obscure legal cases while getting drunk. That was the shock jock stuff I think many people enjoyed since it went into based territory often, not this sexual oversharing degeneracy and simping for his thot followers.
 
Because getting drunk in public is a normal thing in our society.
Stumbling around and interacting with people while drunk enough is generally frowned upon-- but let's assume it's normal, for the sake of argument.

So is obesity and casual sex. That doesn't make it a good thing that doesn't generally reflect poorly on those related to you, especially when you get to talking and you become unrestrained in both temperament and discussion topics.

Most anything that he's done in the past can be reasonably scrutinized with "think of your children"-- there's no argument you can pose about this. Sure enough, I have a particular reaction to the fact that they exposed themselves the way they did, and I think it's worse in terms of the "think of your children" consideration.

On this angle alone (and not regarding the hypocrisy), I'm not going to deny that my particular reaction is partly the product of bias. Explaining lawsuits while drunk was the brand he started with, so there wasn't much point in criticizing it (and he doesn't come off as an alcoholic). Him reacting to internet stuff while drunk is funny. Him talking and reacting to internet stuff with Drexel is even funnier.

So in all of that, I don't particularly care about how it reflects on Nick's homeschooled kids.

Regarding the hypocrisy, though, it's that Nick (and Drexel) talked his wife up as being chaste and a devoted mother and, uh...

...not someone who would expose themselves scantily clad online, possibly under peer pressure from dried up women.

That's not really a matter of the kids, given everything else Nick has done that could negatively reflect on them-- it's a matter of image breaking.

(I still don't care about the Balldo thing though. It's too ridiculous a concept to be invested in, and it's probably funnier to see people drawing the line at the Balldo.)

Perhaps you are sheltered enough not to have ever been exposed to them--
Don't patronize me.
 
Rumble lacking the ability to buy super berries on mobile and (reportedly) being annoying/difficult to buy berries on desktop are also to blame. Nick's critiques of Rumble aren't ill-founded.

Lady Rackets posted her own scantily clad tush in Nick's public Locals chat which is arguably more an issue that if Nick had done it. The initial post claimed people were saying the pics were Lady Rackets in DMs cheating on Nick which caused the initial flurry of activity, but when it turned out to be monogamous degeneracy the pearl clutching started and then the most autistic debate about camera tripods I have ever seen. But more importantly, we have undeniable proof that Nick has no ass.

tldr: Kiwi's tasted blood in the water and afeeding frenzy commenced. Most of the speculation is overblown fanfic, a lot of it is legitimate criticism, all of it is autistic as fuck.


I suggest the balldo is a self spreading cognitohazard. Once you fall for it you have to convince other idiots to fall for it too like a degenerate chain letter.
See, Lady Rackets cheating on Nick and Nick being okay wit hit would definitely be more of an issue. I don't know if being a cuck should be the threshold for lolcowdom given that, as much as it's memed on, it is ultimately just a kink and the most cringe thing is letting people on the internet at large know you have it, but monogamous degeneracy is not really worth note to me. It feels very pearl-clutching. Though that could change. It's entirely possible Nick could let this melt down into something that begins the lolcow arc or become so overcome with degeneracy his wife runs off with Drex and Nick goes full MGTOW or something. It just hasn't happened yet, so.

If someone came up to a rackets child and said, "Haha, your Dad talked to a swinger!" That's not really insulting or embarrassing. When someone can come up to that child and say, "I wanked off to those pictures your Mom put on the internet last night. When's she releasing the next set?" then that's going to have a very different impact.
This is such a stupid statement any time it comes up. This is especially stupid for Nick's kids. They are homeschooled. No one is going to walk up to them and say this. Nobody ever does this, because the people looking at some onlyfans thot aren't coincidentally going to the same school as her kid, but they're especially not going to do it to his kids. And it's very likely they would not care even if someone did, because if the family raised them with hippie values, they're just not going to care. You're projecting your values onto children that aren't yours. You'd be freaked out if someone wanked off to your mom's picture. I, personally, would find the person who did that weird, not my mother. In the theoretical scenario (that will not happen in reality) where someone approached Nick's kids to pointlessly try to bully them over their mom posting lingerie photos, his kids probably just will not care.
All this time I'd been glazing over the Balldo stuff and just assuming it was something to clamp the guy's balls for extra sexual pleasure on his end or something. I'm not a man so I have no idea if that's actually a thing, but your post intrigued me enough that I checked the website.

I don't know what I was expecting but why in the name of all that is holy would any woman want a man to fuck her with his fucking balls? For that matter, why would a man want to do that? There is a penis like RIGHT THERE. And while paying $80 for the privilege.

Also these please hurry messages seem more a cry for help (please for the love of god take these things off our hands, they're freaking us out!) than a sales pitch considering the number in stock:
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I would assume that maybe the way the balls swing would cause different penetration sensation/pace? I'm not really sure what the purpose of it would be though, unless you're going for double penetration. I can in theory see that a woman might like it for a change of pace for some reason, but what the heck is the guy going to do with his now apparently pointless penis? I don't know. Sex toys confuse me surprisingly often. I'm apparently not degenerate to think on such advanced levels.

I have watched Nick off and on for about five years. Several people here have too, I imagine. I think my first time watching him was pre-WW, when he covered the Tonkasaw Knoxville shitshow. Several more people can probably trace their exposure all the way back to Maddox vs. Masterson.

Until fairly recent, he never posted naked pics of his ass (with or without a bottle in it), done a sex toy review, or allowed his wife to take ludes and post them on the Internet. These are all recent occurrences. The cringely ad nauseum sex talk stuff, with respect to LR, is also fairly recent, but extends back some additional months.


It got moved here because @5t3n0g0ph3r, who has been involved in Weebwars since they very beginning, and thus knows the subject matter well, saw the hypocrisy Nick was exhibiting with that ass pic, vis-à-vis the moralistic rants he served up about degeneracy during Weebwars. He made an executive decision to move the thread (or request from higher that the thread be moved) and post Rekieta's dox. Meanwhile, Null seems to concur, at least insofar as that specific assessment of Nick's hypocrisy, judging from the monologue he made on MATI. Neither has a track record of a-logging Rekieta.

So yes, he exceeded the "degeneracy threshold" of the powers that be. I don't think it was done to appease any specific user, or group or users, because this place pretty clearly isn't a democracy.

Also, friendly reminder to all that you don't have to loathe somebody just because they have a cow thread. Terry A. Davis is usually the goto example of this, but I personally still listen to Metokur as background noise. His thread got moved to IF ages ago too.
I've only watched him since the Weeb Wars thing. While I agree he didn't share his personal sexual degeneracy in the past, he's never been really opposed to it. Drex goes to mass orgies and he finds it fascinating, back in 2019 he had that guy on his show to talk about his ultra realistic sex dolls and how the chubby models get sold more than the skinny ones, and also had that crinklebottom diaper fetishist. He's mostly been against spouse sharing (except in the case of enjoying listening to Drex's stories of it), porn tapes, and cucking yourself. Technically, he hasn't violated any of that except to show his naked butt. Which is...eyebrow raising but not exactly 18+. I think it's notable that while Nick went bottomless, Lady Rackets ddin't.

Ultimately, it's not my say who gets to be lolcow or not, and my opinion is irrelevant on the matter. I don't particularly agree that he is a lolcow yet, though, not even a lolcalf. It feels a lot like people have gotten primed for 'Nick is a lolcow' and jumped the gun as soon as he exhibited any behavior they could justify it with. Null may see him as one, but he is a jaded and tired man and I politely disagree with his take on this (I mean. I disagree with him in theory. I'm not dumb tough guy enough to @ him and do it). And for the moment you can't stop me, because the rule that we can't argue about if someone counts as a lolcow is only on the lolcow board proper, not here.

Also, weren't you the person who had an ultra meltdown and freaked out for like a week solid when Nick scorned you a few years back? Or was that someone else?
 
"Why do you draw the line at this thing that hadn't occured before?"

Do you legit have autism?
You lack theory of mind if you think it's rational to just say where you drew the line instead of explaining why you didn't draw the line at anything else when asked, especially when there's plenty that one could reasonably draw a line at.

There's no sense to this-- it's not that I don't know of the thing I just mentioned. Regurgitating it to me as if I didn't know it doesn't serve as an explanation. It's a redundant statement that amounts to "but... JUST LOOK AT IT!".

"Why did you draw the line at this thing that hadn't occurred before?" As if all of his other actions have never been in a state of "not having happened".
 
I think his wife posting a response on the locals page just fueled it even more

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"I'm not fishing for compliments or trying to inflate my ego".
Press fucking X to doubt. Just like a man posting pictures of their guns or cars, they are wanting compliments. They are wanting a boost to their ego. This holds true even moreso when you're a 5 time moth in her early 40's (I dont remember her age nor do I actually care) posting their lewds. This is exactly like when a hoe posts pictures of their ass on instagram. We ALL know it's to get compliments. She just did it to Nick's most loyal paypigs instead of on a massive social media.
 
If someone came up to a rackets child and said, "Haha, your Dad talked to a swinger!" That's not really insulting or embarrassing. When someone can come up to that child and say, "I wanked off to those pictures your Mom put on the internet last night. When's she releasing the next set?" then that's going to have a very different impact.

This is such a stupid statement any time it comes up. This is especially stupid for Nick's kids. They are homeschooled. No one is going to walk up to them and say this. Nobody ever does this, because the people looking at some onlyfans thot aren't coincidentally going to the same school as her kid, but they're especially not going to do it to his kids. And it's very likely they would not care even if someone did, because if the family raised them with hippie values, they're just not going to care. You're projecting your values onto children that aren't yours. You'd be freaked out if someone wanked off to your mom's picture. I, personally, would find the person who did that weird, not my mother. In the theoretical scenario (that will not happen in reality) where someone approached Nick's kids to pointlessly try to bully them over their mom posting lingerie photos, his kids probably just will not care.

Homeschooled doesn't mean completely socially isolated. They're in a co-op, they have ballet and all sorts of activities that they get chauffeured to. We know that at least one kid in the co-op has seen Nick's show, because he's told us so. They are part of a church community. Beyond that, they have family, they probably have friends. And homeschooling now doesn't mean homeschooling forever. They could have a sickness or accident in the family that meant they couldn't homeschool for a year. A kid could opt to go to public school. Eventually, they're going to be old enough to go to college and get a job. Maybe Rackets has a community now that is low-key enough to be fine with his degeneracy, but part of the reason why people are commenting the way they are is that six months ago, Rackets himself was mocking only-fans thots and cucks who let their wives have only-fans accounts. I'd say it's more likely that Racket's community is more like six-months-ago Rackets than today's Rackets.

And, no, I cannot predict exactly how every person will react to knowing about Lady Racket's lewds or Nick's bottle pegging, but given a large enough population, there's bound to be a good percentage of people who will disapprove, and a subset of them who'd react negatively enough to have social repercussions for the kids (either limiting/refusing contact or teasing/bullying). A good parent makes judgment calls over what sorts of burdens you want to place on your kids, and most parents don't go the only-fans route.

Stumbling around and interacting with people while drunk enough is generally frowned upon-- but let's assume it's normal, for the sake of argument.

So is obesity and casual sex.
I really have trouble believing that you lack the capacity to recognize that different things are different, but for the sake of argument, I'll accept that you have that limitation...

Stumbling around and interacting with people while drunk enough is generally frowned upon-- but let's assume it's normal, for the sake of argument.
Different levels of drunkenness receive different levels of approval/condemnation. I've never seen Nick at the 'stumbling around' phase of drunkenness, but when he's gotten more drunk, then there have been plenty of people in the thread who have remarked negatively about it, and while I'm not going back through the thread to find out how many of them included 'think of the children' arguments, I'm sure that if his drunkenness was bad enough to make it seem like it was going to have a negative carry-over to his children, people would complain about it. Yelling 'think of the children' over a couple shots of whiskey would be over-reacting, because a couple shots is different than being black-out drunk, or violently drunk, etc. Gauging one's level of disapproval to match the severity of the issue isn't being unreasonable, it's using your brain.

Most anything that he's done in the past can be reasonably scrutinized with "think of your children"-- there's no argument you can pose about this. Sure enough, I have a particular reaction to the fact that they exposed themselves the way they did, and I think it's worse in terms of the "think of your children" consideration.
Everything can be scrutinized with "think of your children," but it's blatantly unreasonable to scrutinize everything that way. Drinking a couple shots alone at night isn't reasonably going to damage your children, even when people know you do it, so it's not reasonable to moralize over it. Severe alcohol abuse is different, and when people have perceived Nick's drinking as falling into that category, they've reacted about it.

Having a gunt, picking internet slap-fights, calling fat women whales, all of those things can be perceived negatively - but unless they're taken to unreasonable extremes, it's not likely to negatively impact kids and so it would be unreasonable to scrutinize it with regards to how it impacts his children. People have saved their 'think of the children' moralizing for a situation that might actually have significant negative impact on them. That's reasonable. That's recognizing that different actions have different effects and reacting accordingly.

So is obesity and casual sex.
Being fat is different than being a sexual degenerate. They have different effects on people. Being a sexual degenerate has worse effects on children than being fat. Nick has a pot-belly, he is not obese. No one has gone 'think of the children!' in this thread over Nick's pot-belly because he's not obese. If you want that to be relevant to the discussion, maybe go over to the Death Fats subforum.

Parents engaging in casual sex is very detrimental to children. If Nick were engaging in casual sex, people would be dragging him over that. No one has gone 'think of the children!' in this thread with regards to that because, as far as we know, Nick hasn't engaged in casual sex outside of his marriage. Part of the reason why there's some 'think of the children' going on now is that his current behavior suggests that there might possibly be some casual extra-marital sex going on, and that would hurt the children.

Don't patronize me.
I treat different things differently. If you want me to treat your arguments as intelligent, well-thought out trains of thought, you're going to have to present that sort of argument.
 
I really have trouble believing that you lack the capacity to recognize that different things are different,

Your argument is based around what's "normal" or "acceptable". My response to this is that none of that has to do with whether it's good. "Normality" isn't intrinsic to "goodness", and it says nothing about the consequences of the action in question.

Even as you make your point, you have to qualify the public drunkenness you were arguing was "acceptable". There are some forms or levels of public drunkenness that aren't acceptable, of course-- hell, not everyone is equally comfortable with it (or anything, really).

Drinking a couple shots alone at night
He gets drunk on stream.

Often.

It is part of the core of his brand. There's no sense in downplaying this.

Being fat is different than being a sexual degenerate.
But they're "normal." Common, even.

If you want me to treat your arguments as intelligent
You supposedly thought that someone that was old enough to register on this site didn't know what a bar or pub was, in the course of a flawed argument that conflated normality with morality.

Treating you intelligently despite the fact that your argument is poor on its face is mostly for the sake of not derailing the argument with unnecessary tension.
 
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I don't know what I was expecting but why in the name of all that is holy would any woman want a man to fuck her with his fucking balls? For that matter, why would a man want to do that? There is a penis like RIGHT THERE. And while paying $80 for the privilege.
For a women there's 0 appeal as a good old penis should do a better job than the weird wonky purple dildo.

For a man maybe some people like the ball stretching sensation idk :medallion:
Having your balls in something wet and warm can feel good but a mouth/tongue can do the same.
 
I don't know what I was expecting but why in the name of all that is holy would any woman want a man to fuck her with his fucking balls? For that matter, why would a man want to do that? There is a penis like RIGHT THERE. And while paying $80 for the privilege.
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LR has had 5 kids. It is quite possible she has a enlarged vagina as a result.

Cue obligatory film clip from Predator.

In response to @Allanon (quote bug):

I think it's notable that while Nick went bottomless, Lady Rackets ddin't.
Ummmm....

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(Note: For some silly reason, this picture got buried in some autism about tripods, and there was a focus on the lingerie pics... see below).

While I agree he didn't share his personal sexual degeneracy in the past, he's never been really opposed to it.
No, he just criticized people for their own degeneracy for the past 4ish years of WW. Remember Shame Homelessberg? Dominique Skye? Ron and Monica? About how gross it is to overshare your sex lives? About how nobody wants to hear from Monica how great sex is with Ron? About how nobody wants to hear how sexually aggressive Shame's child bride is?

Or how he said numerous times don't post naked pics of yourself on the Internet?

Again, I think you're missing the full context of the thread move. Null and @5t3n0g0ph3r both went over this. Reading the room, it seems like many other people who hung around the WW sub-forum seem to comprehend this too. It's the culmination of examining what he's said for years, and what he's doing now.

Also, weren't you the person who had an ultra meltdown and freaked out for like a week solid when Nick scorned you a few years back? Or was that someone else?
You probably be thinking of me, yeah. I took umbrage to what I perceived as him guntguarding 2-3 years ago, and was very vocal about it on KF. Admittedly, probably to the point of cringe. Suffice it to say, he wasn't happy with that, and chewed me out.

Ironically enough, that particular issue eventually corrected itself when Nick playfully ribbed Ralph for the shart heard 'round the Internet, and Ralph had one of his Ralphamale Meltdowns.™ In hindsight, I goofed. What I should have said was absolutely nothing, and wait for Ralph to Ralph. Which he inevitably does. Always, and without fail. For some idiotic reason, I momentarily forgot the natural order of all things Ralph. Mea cupla.

Heretofore, I've also rarely posted in this thread or said much about Nick. Before this current drama, the last time I posted here was months ago to criticize some idiot who came in here and threw a hissy fit over the fact KF wasn't uniting together to destroy homosexuality, or some other absurd activism shit (which goes against the very spirit of the site). He had some weird hate-boner for @KEK7go. Said user was later site banned by Null himself. Hardly a-logging.

This all goes to my point that any normal user who has history or opinion of Nick has precisely jack shit to do with the fact the thread was moved. Said decision came from the moderation staff, and was based on very recent developments perpetuated by Nick himself. You simply can't pin this on the KF userbase, as far as I'm concerned.

For what it's worth, I'm actually not "happy" he ramped up the degeneracy and the thread was moved to a lolcow board, but I confess I see the logic behind moving it. I'm coming at this from the same frame of reference Sten seems to have from the WW days. I also couldn't do anything about it if I did object to the move. It is what it is, and it happened about as organically as anyone can hope.

This is the tripods all over again. You're all autistic.
Okay, but... and hear me out here.... we never did establish whether the camera was on a tripod or not. Is that not at least as important as investigating whether Gator drives a Mitsubishi?

I kid, of course.
 
Your argument is based around what's "normal" or "acceptable". My response to this is that none of that has to do with whether it's good. "Normality" isn't intrinsic to "goodness", and it says nothing about the consequences of the action in question.
This conversation started with your inability to understand why some people would be concerned about the impacts of Racket's behavior on his children. While I did call the consumption of alcoholic beverages normal (because it is), you're being disingenuous if you think you can characterize the entirety of my argument by saying that I'm justifying everything by how normal/acceptable it is. I repeatedly drew distinctions around whether something harms children, and if you don't think that harming children is implicitly a bad thing, then it's no wonder that you are having trouble understanding the conversations here.

Even as you make your point, you have to qualify the public drunkenness you were arguing was "acceptable". There are some forms or levels of public drunkenness that aren't acceptable, of course-- hell, not everyone is equally comfortable with it (or anything, really).


He gets drunk on stream.

Often.

It is part of the core of his brand. There's no sense in downplaying this.


But they're "normal." Common, even.
Of course I made a distinction that not all alcohol consumption is the same. I explicitly stated that being mildly intoxicated is a different thing than being blackout drunk. You have to completely ignore half my explanation to simplify things down enough to where your rebuttal holds water. I said that when he's gotten sufficiently drunk, people on the forums criticize him for it, even though I disagree with you trying to characterize his state as 'stumbling around.' Yes, he gets very drunk sometimes, but the majority of streams I've watched (and I've seen most streams since he started covering the Meyer v. Waid case), he's tipsy at best. And the handful of times where he's become a sloppy drunk (which still isn't as severe as a stumbling around drunk) people have criticized him. Remember, this conversation is about your confusion over why he isn't being criticized a certain way. Sober is different than tipsy is different than slobbering drunk is different than black-out drunk. The majority of the time, he's on the sober to tipsy scale, and that kind of drunkenness isn't causing problems (unless, perhaps, you are his liver) and therefore people aren't going to have the same criticisms. Acknowledging that the majority of the time, he's drinking responsibly isn't downplaying anything, it's paying attention to the entirety of his output, and not just the handful of streams that can prove my point. And if you want to argue that he's regularly drunk enough that he's a menace to his children, then you're free to do so.
You supposedly thought that someone that was old enough to register on this site didn't know what a bar or pub was, in the course of a flawed argument that conflated normality with morality.

Treating you intelligently despite the fact that your argument is poor on its face is mostly for the sake of not derailing the argument with unnecessary tension.
Ah, so you're autistic. You're incapable of recognizing sarcasm. What I was doing was presenting my argument as if you were at the intellectual level where your apparent naivety made sense. Most people have enough experience with society to know why people would react differently to alcohol consumption than they would to public sexual degeneracy. Explaining the point in excruciating detail was meant to emphasize that I believed your argument was either entirely disingenuous (because it's so painfully obvious why people make distinctions between the two activities) or based on being so mentally handicapped that you needed things spelled out to you at a below basic level.

Or, if you aren't autistic, then you know full well that I was making fun of you and I didn't think you were a child. (also, I'm internet savvy enough to know that a pop-up message saying 'don't sign up here if you're underage' doesn't actually prevent underage people from signing up, and I'm socially experienced enough to know that there are lots of people who age physically, but are still intellectually deficient. I never called you a child, and you're putting words in my mouth that I didn't say in order to try and paint me as stupid - which isn't a good debating tactic unless your opponent is stupid enough not to notice the slight-of-hand). You're trying to say that I'm an idiot, and then immediately hiding behind the shield of 'Oh, I'm treating you intelligently!' Come off it.

I never conflated normality with morality. I regularly used the word 'degenerate' which is generally accepted to classify an act as immoral. You're reframing everything to fit into a strawman you can knock down, without ever addressing the substance of my argument, so it's not worth it for me to further explain my position as if you were acting in good faith.
 
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