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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Are they absent though? Or just under-reported?
Also it wouldn't surprise me if they were burning off Kornets & Konkurs against entrenched Ukrainian units in places like Bakhmut & earlier Mariupol.
I considered that, and my bet is it's a bit of both.

Also, Russian offensives didn't offer as many opportunities for them to use ATGMs, except for vehicle-mounted; and we know what's happened to a lot of those on the initial drives. And meanwhile, the Ukrainians had a target-rich enviroment in which to operate ATGM teams (both vehicle & man-portable).

But whenever the Russians have made a kill with their missiles, they spread the footage far & wide to their outlets, the same Ukrainian & western channels do. And there should've been more use of their own during the Ukrainian counter-offensives, even if only on troop concentrations & soft vehicles.

Of course we see more from the Ukrainian side, but there still should be more from Russia by now. Hell, lately I've seen more new videos of Konkurs & Kornets being used in Syria, by the Kurds, or against the Saudis than in Ukraine.

Also; fighting underneath the Antonovskiy Bridge, with an appearance by Yuri at said bridge.

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Also; fighting underneath the Antonovskiy Bridge, with an appearance by Yuri at said bridge.
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This looks like some PR gay-ops shit.
Those dudes are moving way too high & slow for an active sniping zone. Never see their rockets fire. And that AT push should be supported by copious amounts of covering fire being that I doubt they are sneaking up on a tank.

Yes, Russia has a lot of ATGMs. Both in number and variety.
Russian-made 9M133 Kornet missiles were used in Iraq to knock out US Abrams tanks and in Lebanon to knock out Israeli Merkava's, so Russia certainly has some capable systems. Of course, unfortunately Ukraine operates mostly post-Soviet shittanks so it's not like they'd need something capable of stopping a modern Western tank anyways.

I also want to point out here there is a difference between a mobility kill, a crew kill, and a total kill.
If you hit the treads, it doesn't take too much to make a tank a pillbox.
modern tanks make a crew kill a difficult endeavor, but most modern tankers will leave a stricken tank rather than wait for artillery - so I'd argue if there are no living tankers in a tank, that's a crew kill.

in a mobility kill, you can usually get a recovery team up to get the tank back into service. If its just a tread or roadwheel problem, the crew can probably get it back up enough to limp back to a support base.

A crew kill, you just need to hose out the crew compartment and bring up some fresh guys.

Neither one will offline a tank for very long.

A total kill is when you slag the tank so that its scrap, and even if you try to bring it back on line, it'll need a full rebuild. See: T-72s with popped tops.

So Kornets are capable of stoping an Abrams or a Merkava, but not for very long.
Of course as pointed out, Ukraine isn't fielding modern western tanks.
 
Of course as pointed out, Ukraine isn't fielding modern western tanks.
That's true, but they've also probably done their best to fix the worst problems with turret popping the Russian T-72's have. IIRC there was supposedly a relatively easy fix to that sort of thing the USSR developed... but apparently chose not to roll out to their vehicles for whatever reason.
 
That's true, but they've also probably done their best to fix the worst problems with turret popping the Russian T-72's have. IIRC there was supposedly a relatively easy fix to that sort of thing the USSR developed... but apparently chose not to roll out to their vehicles for whatever reason.

The fix is "reinforce the ammo storage" and "don't store spare rounds loose in the turret crew compartment".
But if you don't store lose rounds in the turret, then you can't have the tank explode and say you upgraded the ammo storage while having pocketed the allocated budget.
 
The fix is "reinforce the ammo storage" and "don't store spare rounds loose in the turret crew compartment".
But if you don't store lose rounds in the turret, then you can't have the tank explode and say you upgraded the ammo storage while having pocketed the allocated budget.
This kind of "Pocketing the budget meant for maintenance, upgrades/fixes, and training" stuff is hilariously common in modern Russia.

A combination of that kind of corruption and the West showering the ukies in surplus equipment to get "Live combat data" have really ground things to a halt lately.
 
This kind of "Pocketing the budget meant for maintenance, upgrades/fixes, and training" stuff is hilariously common in modern Russia.

A combination of that kind of corruption and the West showering the ukies in surplus equipment to get "Live combat data" have really ground things to a halt lately.

Yup. It plagued Ukraine in 2014 and the military has been cleaning house, but its an uphill battle.

That interview with the brit that @Blatant hypocrite posted is a damn good cross section and jives with everything I've heard. He talks about two trucks full of military gear for the foreign legion vanishing in the middle of an active zone - aka roadblocks on every intersection, and his commander already being up to Slav shenanigans.

Also, its not just live combat data. This is the fucking superbowl of military hardware. Lockheed Martin will be running their HIMARS production lines at full tilt for the next 50 years based on what it did to Russia's artillery. If they can get F-16s approved for Ukraine and Ukrainian pilots (or "Ukrainian" pilots) are able to operate them successfully in Russian AA-zones and give Ukraine Air-Parity over the front, the F-16 will be still be flying missions past its centennial.
 
The fix is "reinforce the ammo storage" and "don't store spare rounds loose in the turret crew compartment".
But if you don't store lose rounds in the turret, then you can't have the tank explode and say you upgraded the ammo storage while having pocketed the allocated budget.
Russian tanks with autoloader have the exact same problem as western tanks with autoloaders. That problem is the ammo in the autoloader is just what will fit into it. While rest of the main gun ammo is stowed elsewhere until the autoloader needs to be reloaded. Placement of the autoloader however is the difference between Western and Russian tank design is most apparent. As Western tank designers including Americans* have the autoloader in the armored turret bustle where it along with the ammo stowage are physically separated from the crew compartment. Rest of the ammo is usually in the hull ammo rack next to the driver.

*Abrams haves at least two older autoloader options with one omitting placement of the crew's loader and another keeps the crew's loader for other duties like drone operator. Both of those still have all of the ammunition in the armored ammo turret compartment.
 
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So Kornets are capable of stoping an Abrams or a Merkava, but not for very long.
Of course as pointed out, Ukraine isn't fielding modern western tanks.

The fix is "reinforce the ammo storage" and "don't store spare rounds loose in the turret crew compartment".
But if you don't store lose rounds in the turret, then you can't have the tank explode and say you upgraded the ammo storage while having pocketed the allocated budget.
These are the secret methods that Russia uses to maintain its supremacy in the Olympic Turret Tossing competition.
 
There's a new video, apparently from Bakhmut, that shows a Russian platoon getting completely fucked by artillery. It's interesting to see how quickly and precisely the Ukrainians are able to adjust their fire with the help of drones. First they bombard the basement or cave where the Russians are hiding and then they bombard the paths of retreat, which makes the Russians huddle together near the entrance, which is then targeted.




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Russian tanks with autoloader have the exact same problem as western tanks with autoloaders. That problem is the ammo in the autoloader is just what will fit into it. While rest of the main gun ammo is stowed elsewhere until the autoloader needs to be reloaded. Placement of the autoloader however is the difference between Western and Russian tank design is most apparent. As Western tank designers including Americans* have the autoloader in the armored turret bustle where it along with the ammo stowage are physically separated from the crew compartment. Rest of the ammo is usually in the hull ammo rack next to the driver.

*Abrams haves at two older autoloader options with one omitting placement of the crew's loader and another keeps the crew's loader for other duties like drone operator. Both of those still have all of the ammunition in the armored ammo turret compartment.
And because we fit the autoloader mechanisms themselves in the ammunition bustle (FASTDRAW was a technically impressive system that replaced the ammo racks with giant drums) we wound up losing a ton of storage capacity.
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Its like the French systems in their oscillating turret designs, but better in every way. The T57 oscillating turret prototype the US tested during the Cold War could get 30 RPM with its feed system. I figure even with the safety features 20 RPM would be feasible with that.
 

By Alexandra Fouché

TikTok is hosting dozens of videos that glorify violence by Russia's Wagner Group of mercenaries and they have been viewed more than a billion times, according to a new report.

Wagner has sent mercenaries into Ukraine in big numbers.

US-based NewsGuard, which focuses on online misinformation, says some of the videos appear to show the execution of a former Russian mercenary.

TikTok has said it will act against any content violating its policies.

NewsGuard said it had identified 160 videos on the short-video platform that "allude to, show, or glorify acts of violence" by the mercenary group, founded by Yevgeny Prigozhin, a close ally of President Vladimir Putin.

Fourteen of those videos showed full or partial footage of the apparent killing of former Russian mercenary Yevgeny Nuzhin which saw high engagement within days of being uploaded last month, it said.

Analysts said one video of the murder was viewed at least 900,000 times before the short-video platform took it down. TikTok is owned by China-based firm ByteDance.

Nuzhin had been serving a jail term for murder but described how he had been recruited by Wagner and was then captured by the Ukrainian military. He told Ukrainian journalists he had switched sides voluntarily and denounced the mercenary group.

It is thought he was then part of a prisoner exchange and within days a gruesome video involving a sledgehammer was posted on a Wagner-linked channel on the Telegram messaging app.

NewsGuard found that TikTok's algorithm appeared to push users towards violent Wagner Group content.

When an analyst searched for the term "Wagner", TikTok's search bar suggested searches for "Wagner execution" and "Wagner sledgehammer". The same search in Russian resulted in the suggestions "Wagner PMC", "Wagner sledgehammer" and "Wagner orchestra". Wagner refers to its fighters as "musicians".

NewsGuard also found that videos could be found on TikTok showing another Wagner murder involving an army deserter in Syria in 2017 and that they had reached millions of users.

The online analysis group said it had also identified other music videos on the platform that advocated violence against Ukrainians, including calls to kill Ukrainians claiming they were "Nazis".

Responding to the report, a TikTok spokesperson said there was "no place for hateful or violent content on our platform". Many of the videos identified by NewsGuard were no longer available on the platform by Thursday.

"Our Community Guidelines clearly outline that we do not allow people to use our platform to threaten or incite violence, or share attacks or slurs based on people's nationality or other protected characteristics. We will take action on content found to violate these policies," TikTok said.

Wagner started out as a shadowy Russian mercenary group and in 2014 went to eastern Ukraine to help Russian proxy forces oust the Ukrainian military.

It has also been active in Syria and several African countries, and has repeatedly been accused of war crimes and human rights abuses. Last week the European Parliament called for it to be added to the EU's list of terrorist organisations.

For years Yevgeny Prigozhin denied he had anything to do with Wagner, until September when he finally admitted founding the group.

Once know as "Putin's chef" because of his catering fortune, he appeared in recent videos recruiting inmates in Russian prisons for the war in Ukraine.

Yevgeny Nuzhin's family knew nothing of his recruitment for the war, although before he died he told Ukrainian journalists he and the other prison recruits were merely "cannon fodder".
 
There's a new video, apparently from Bakhmut, that shows a Russian platoon getting completely fucked by artillery. It's interesting to see how quickly and precisely the Ukrainians are able to adjust their fire with the help of drones. First they bombard the basement or cave where the Russians are hiding and then they bombard the paths of retreat, which makes the Russians huddle together near the entrance, which is then targeted.


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I just had to read a whole lot of vatnik drivel so this really soothes my soul, thanks. Hopefully whoever survives realizes that it's all a bad idea. Expect for those who took Ukrainian lives, they should just die.
 

By Alexandra Fouché

TikTok is hosting dozens of videos that glorify violence by Russia's Wagner Group of mercenaries and they have been viewed more than a billion times, according to a new report.

Wagner has sent mercenaries into Ukraine in big numbers.

US-based NewsGuard, which focuses on online misinformation, says some of the videos appear to show the execution of a former Russian mercenary.

TikTok has said it will act against any content violating its policies.

NewsGuard said it had identified 160 videos on the short-video platform that "allude to, show, or glorify acts of violence" by the mercenary group, founded by Yevgeny Prigozhin, a close ally of President Vladimir Putin.

Fourteen of those videos showed full or partial footage of the apparent killing of former Russian mercenary Yevgeny Nuzhin which saw high engagement within days of being uploaded last month, it said.

Analysts said one video of the murder was viewed at least 900,000 times before the short-video platform took it down. TikTok is owned by China-based firm ByteDance.

Nuzhin had been serving a jail term for murder but described how he had been recruited by Wagner and was then captured by the Ukrainian military. He told Ukrainian journalists he had switched sides voluntarily and denounced the mercenary group.

It is thought he was then part of a prisoner exchange and within days a gruesome video involving a sledgehammer was posted on a Wagner-linked channel on the Telegram messaging app.

NewsGuard found that TikTok's algorithm appeared to push users towards violent Wagner Group content.

When an analyst searched for the term "Wagner", TikTok's search bar suggested searches for "Wagner execution" and "Wagner sledgehammer". The same search in Russian resulted in the suggestions "Wagner PMC", "Wagner sledgehammer" and "Wagner orchestra". Wagner refers to its fighters as "musicians".

NewsGuard also found that videos could be found on TikTok showing another Wagner murder involving an army deserter in Syria in 2017 and that they had reached millions of users.

The online analysis group said it had also identified other music videos on the platform that advocated violence against Ukrainians, including calls to kill Ukrainians claiming they were "Nazis".

Responding to the report, a TikTok spokesperson said there was "no place for hateful or violent content on our platform". Many of the videos identified by NewsGuard were no longer available on the platform by Thursday.

"Our Community Guidelines clearly outline that we do not allow people to use our platform to threaten or incite violence, or share attacks or slurs based on people's nationality or other protected characteristics. We will take action on content found to violate these policies," TikTok said.

Wagner started out as a shadowy Russian mercenary group and in 2014 went to eastern Ukraine to help Russian proxy forces oust the Ukrainian military.

It has also been active in Syria and several African countries, and has repeatedly been accused of war crimes and human rights abuses. Last week the European Parliament called for it to be added to the EU's list of terrorist organisations.

For years Yevgeny Prigozhin denied he had anything to do with Wagner, until September when he finally admitted founding the group.

Once know as "Putin's chef" because of his catering fortune, he appeared in recent videos recruiting inmates in Russian prisons for the war in Ukraine.

Yevgeny Nuzhin's family knew nothing of his recruitment for the war, although before he died he told Ukrainian journalists he and the other prison recruits were merely "cannon fodder".
It's hard to tell who is gayer; neo-liberal censors like NewsGuard or Wagner "it isn't gay if you are the top" Group. It's kind of amazing how bad the former make themselves look to the people they are ostensibly trying to reach. When the dumb bitch Ursula von der Leyen misspoke yesterday, they reacted by deleting everything from social media and editing both the text of the speech and the video on the EU's official site. That's exactly the kind of behavior that makes the conspiracy-minded or disaffected citizens skeptical of everything they say, even when they are right, like on the Ukraine conflict (although they should send some tanks and F-16s already).

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There's a new video, apparently from Bakhmut, that shows a Russian platoon getting completely fucked by artillery. It's interesting to see how quickly and precisely the Ukrainians are able to adjust their fire with the help of drones. First they bombard the basement or cave where the Russians are hiding and then they bombard the paths of retreat, which makes the Russians huddle together near the entrance, which is then targeted.
I just had to read a whole lot of vatnik drivel so this really soothes my soul, thanks. Hopefully whoever survives realizes that it's all a bad idea. Expect for those who took Ukrainian lives, they should just die.
The merciless use of drones by Ukraine constantly reminds me about St. Olga of Kyiv; or more specifically, how she handled the Drevlians (who rebelled against the Kyivan Rus & assassinated her husband). Her history is much better known outside of slavlands now, but it's still worth repeating.
The initial conflict between the armies of the two nations went very well for the forces of Kyivan Rus', who won the battle handily and drove the survivors back into their cities. Olga then led her army to Iskorosten (what is today Korosten), the city where her husband had been slain, and laid siege to the city. The siege lasted for a year without success when Olga thought of a plan to trick the Drevlians. She sent them a message: "Why do you persist in holding out? All your cities have surrendered to me and submitted to tribute, so that the inhabitants now cultivate their fields and their lands in peace. But you had rather die of hunger, without submitting to tribute."

The Drevlians responded that they would submit to tribute, but that they were afraid she was still intent on avenging her husband. Olga answered that the murder of the messengers sent to Kyiv, as well as the events of the feast night, had been enough for her. She then asked them for a small request: "Give me three pigeons...and three sparrows from each house." The Drevlians rejoiced at the prospect of the siege ending for so small a price, and did as she asked.

Olga then instructed her army to attach a piece of sulphur bound with small pieces of cloth to each bird. At nightfall, Olga told her soldiers to set the pieces aflame and release the birds. They returned to their nests within the city, which subsequently set the city ablaze.
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Are they absent though? Or just under-reported?
Also it wouldn't surprise me if they were burning off Kornets & Konkurs against entrenched Ukrainian units in places like Bakhmut & earlier Mariupol.
Well regular Russian soldiers are not allowed to keep their phone while in combat zones (wise move after they accidentally leaked the BUK system that was used to shoot down MH-17) so we only get video material from the Russian side via the Prisonrapegang, Donbabwe militas and Tik Tok Chechens. Maybe they are using some....maybe not. Honestly doubt it since they would otherwise present them as cheap version of overrated Western trash Javelin XAXAXAXA

(although they should send some tanks and F-16s already).
Jets are rather irrelevant in this war so far (besides some surprisingly successful sorties of the Russian Air Force on day 1) and tanks are used as dispensable siege towers for charges against entrenched positions. Germonies is right so far to not send Leos to Ukraine as long as we can burn through the rusty iron trash of the Ex Warsaw pact nations. Bradleys, old CV90s, M60s should be the absolute maximum.
 
Lockheed Martin will be running their HIMARS production lines at full tilt for the next 50 years based on what it did to Russia's artillery
If Polish Armaments Group builds enough capacity to export the K239-PL, I think they are going to cut into Lockmart's sales significantly. If for no other reason than delivery dates for HIMARS are currently "some day." Norway's Kongsberg has entered a joint venture with Hanwha that involves the Redback and the K239 launcher. If they put the launcher on a Volvo A30, like the Archer, I might die laughing in glee.

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The K239 is a Korean 2 pod MLRS with the ability to fire US and Korean pods.
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Polish Jelcz 8x8 with a hooklift. Same truck(minus the hooklift) will be the base for K239-PL launcher system.
 
Well regular Russian soldiers are not allowed to keep their phone while in combat zones (wise move after they accidentally leaked the BUK system that was used to shoot down MH-17) so we only get video material from the Russian side via the Prisonrapegang, Donbabwe militas and Tik Tok Chechens. Maybe they are using some....maybe not. Honestly doubt it since they would otherwise present them as cheap version of overrated Western trash Javelin XAXAXAX.
In the beginning this was the case, and their commands kept a pretty decent lock on information; but now a lot of mobiks are keeping their phones, and wounded troops who still kept theirs regardless of orders are sharing when they get sent home. Private groups & channels are starting to be flooded with their own drone, air, and ground combat footage, but ATGMs are still conspicuously scarce.

Maybe it's a doctrine thing, and they're not permitted to use ATGMs against troop concentrations & fortified positions; but that I doubt. If the Syrians & Houthis have enough missiles to hit troops in the open, soft vehicles, and entrenched MGs, then it's rather telling, especially if the Russians haven't learned to do the same thing (or at least "enhance" footage of misses to look like kills).

Bonus: Belarusian Browning.

Edit: sounds like there's dueling automatic grenade launchers as well, outgoing & incoming; or possibly an auto-cannon(s).
 
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Letter bombs sent to Spain’s prime minister and US embassy in Madrid​

Four other devices were sent to various targets, including one to the Ukrainian embassy that ignited, injuring a security officer

Bomb disposal experts defused a letter bomb at the US embassy in Madrid on Thursday, one of at least six sent to high-profile targets apparently related to support for Ukraine.

The bomb was later detonated in a controlled explosion by Spanish police.

Five other devices were sent to various targets in the country, including one sent to the Ukrainian embassy that ignited, injuring a security officer, while the office of Pedro Sánchez, the Spanish prime minister, also received a letter bomb.

According to Spain’s interior ministry, a suspicious package sent by ordinary mail and addressed to Mr Sánchez was “detected and neutralised” in a controlled explosion by the security department at the prime minister’s official residence on November 24.

“The letters and their contents were similar in the five cases,” said Rafael Pérez, Spain’s secretary of state for security.

Mr Pérez said the five packages consisted of brown envelopes with what appeared to be incendiary mechanisms inside. He said they were designed to produce flames, rather than an explosion.

“There is evidence that they were sent from within Spain,” he added.

On Thursday morning, security staff at the defence ministry in Madrid detected a package containing an incendiary device, which was safely destroyed.

The defence ministry said Spanish security forces had also intercepted a letter bomb at an air force base in Torrejón de Ardoz, outside Madrid.

Mr Pérez said the device intercepted at the air base was deactivated without being destroyed, something which could help investigators to trace the origin of the incendiary material inside.

On Wednesday, an incendiary device was discovered at Zaragoza-based weapons manufacturer Instalaza, which manufactures the C90 grenade launcher that Spain has supplied to Ukraine.

Margarita Robles, the Spanish defence minister, who was visiting the Ukrainian port city of Odesa on Thursday, said the letter bombs would not deter Spain from supporting Ukraine's "just cause".

Spain’s National Court is investigating the wave of letter bombs as possible crimes of terrorism.

The interior ministry said it had ordered an increase to security measures at public buildings, especially relating to mail services.

The ministry also said it had ordered a boost to security surrounding diplomatic missions in the country.

Russia’s embassy in Spain said: “Any threat or terrorist act, especially directed against a diplomatic mission, are totally condemnable.”
 
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