Inactive Nick Bate / Nickalaus B. Stoutzenberger - (Thread 3: JUDGEMENT DAY)

[waffle]

Here is how it works, at least in my Province in Canada.

I attend Prothonotary and search for file on comp system. Fill out slip and request file. If I am solicitor of record, I can view free. If not, costs $8 bucks.

I then get the full file and can sit in a room and read everything. I can make copies at 75 cents per page. (Now I just take pics with my iPhone. LOL)

That's it. Unless the file is sealed, or certain docs within are, that would be all it would take for me to get the transcript if the freak was charged here.

Question is, can one do the same in Lancaster County, PA?

Where I practice you can do that with the courts file if it's not sealed, but a transcript is only made if someone requests it and it is retained by the court reporter, not as a part of the file. The transcript would only got into the file if the judge presiding over the trial ordered the reporter to make a transcript for the Court's use. I've never heard of them doing this for the entire trial, only some part that the judge wanted to mull over to make a ruling.

I'm honestly not sure what they are allowed to charge here if, as in Nick's case, it is already prepared and they are just printing a copy, but I suspect they want the full statutory rate as if they were making it fresh from the notes($2.60/page IIRC for criminal maters). Court reporters are treated strangely in my jurisdiction and are essentially independent contractors who get paid directly by the parties to make transcripts on top of some smaller daily rate by the court to take the original stenography. I kind of forget that the way they do it here is kind of unusual beause it's what I deal with every day.

-EDIT-

looks like they are a lot cheaper in Pa and can only charge up to 25 cents a page to non-parties for photo copies of transcripts that were already made.

" (3) The cost charged to the public for a copy of a transcript that has been filed of record shall not exceed $0.25 per page."

So, if were right that it's between 201 and 400 pages then the most it could cost is $100.

 

[selere]

Can someone explain me why this guy thought that masturbating with his own shit proved he didn't assault his sister?

What's even the train of thought here?

 

[bzewzi]

Can someone explain me why this guy thought that masturbating with his own shit proved he didn't assault his sister?

What's even the train of thought here?

He said in his initial chatlog about it that he didn't perform anal because she had a "shitty butthole", and then tried to backpedal and say that that wouldn't stop him because he loves poop.

So masturbating with said poop was to prove that he wouldn't have stopped because of that.

 

[selere]

He said in his initial chatlog about it that he didn't perform anal because she had a "shitty butthole", and then tried to backpedal and say that that wouldn't stop him because he loves poop.

So masturbating with said poop was to prove that he wouldn't have stopped because of that.

So he only implied he didn't stop in the first place, and actually did it? Not very clever.

 

[LiveFromNS]

Back on transcript for a sec.

Again, all from my personal experience, I can order an audio CD of any court hearing not subject to a confidentiality or privacy Order. I can then pay a transcription service to transcribe. I do that all the time. I have had full trials down to a 10 minute hearing that I have ordered the audio of. To be honest, here in the old days you would make a request for a transcript of a hearing, and the Court were the only ones who would transcribe it.

If you need to use the transcript for a court hearing, you would then employ a certified transcriptionist and what they produced would be entered in as an Exhibit, part of Appeal Book or whatever.

I guess the long and short of it is, if you can find out if the file is sealed or banned from public or whatever, that is the first step. If it is, chances are slim to none one would be able to view the file. If it is not, then there may be a chance to view the file. As the transcript has been entered for what appears to be an appeal, then as I said, iPhone. Or read and take notes.

The Court cannot stop you or start interrogating you as to why you want to see a file. If its accessible to the public, that's the end of it.

 

[DragoonSierra]

The county court is more or less like a typical court. I know it might not look like that because of those ridiculous magistrate court's in double wide trailers and the like where the preliminary stuff occurred.

That court room is a fucking 2 bedroom house.

 

[sugoi-chan]

That court room is a fucking 2 bedroom house.

That's what happens with courthouses out in the middle of bumfuck nowhere. Those courts see things like traffic violations and Ol' Farmer Henshaw getting drunk and screamin' at the missus again, so they don't need to be big. When you do actual crime, your hearing is held there and then bumped up to the big boy court in Lancaster, PA...which is an actual courthouse.

 

[waffle]

The long story short on the transcript is that we could order it and the judge has to release it unless he comes up with a good reason not to. I suspect he'd just order the name and personal identifying information of the minor victim blanked out. I just don't want to spend the 50-100 bucks to do it. If someone does want to spend the money PM me and I'll help you fill the forms out.

 

[bzewzi]

So he only implied he didn't stop in the first place, and actually did it? Not very clever.

Nah, he was trying to prove that the story was made up for attention and Badass Internet Points.

 

[AnOminous]

Where I practice you can do that with the courts file if it's not sealed, but a transcript is only made if someone requests it and it is retained by the court reporter, not as a part of the file. The transcript would only got into the file if the judge presiding over the trial ordered the reporter to make a transcript for the Court's use. I've never heard of them doing this for the entire trial, only some part that the judge wanted to mull over to make a ruling.

I only noted its existence because it showed up on the docket. It's already been created.

 

[Xarpho]

In about 10 days Nick should get sentenced since it has been 90 days since he was charged. What if he isn't sentenced by then? They aren't going to order a mistrial, are they?

 

[sugoi-chan]

In about 10 days Nick should get sentenced since it has been 90 days since he was charged. What if he isn't sentenced by then? They aren't going to order a mistrial, are they?

No. He was found guilty - you don't get let off because of administrative scheduling problems. He still belongs in jail and if sentencing takes a couple extra months to happen, that'll usually get factored into the final decision of sentence (time served).

 

[Skeletor]

In about 10 days Nick should get sentenced since it has been 90 days since he was charged. What if he isn't sentenced by then? They aren't going to order a mistrial, are they?

Let's hope we get an update soon, but it wouldn't amaze me if there were bureaucratic delays. Nick isn't going anywhere either way.

 

[AnOminous]

In about 10 days Nick should get sentenced since it has been 90 days since he was charged. What if he isn't sentenced by then? They aren't going to order a mistrial, are they?

Pretty unlikely. You have the right to a speedy trial that applies throughout the process, but there isn't really a magic number. If anyone is likely to try to postpone it, it would be the defense.

 

[Yawning Bulbasaur]

Sorry in advance, but I just want to make one more extremely spergy post here, this time I made up a song based on "On the Open Road" from The Goofy Movie

Spoiler: In the Penitentiary

(Goofy)
Oh Nickie, it's not so bad you lost the trial. Now you get to have three square meals a day AND a shower

(Goofy)
Do ya need a break from squalid livin'?
Do ya long to have clean shiny teeth?
If you've been convicted of a crime
Just grab a friend and serve your time
Together in the penitentiary!
C'mon Nickie! A-hyuck!

(Nick)
All in all, I'd rather watch my aunt's dogs
All in all, I'd rather eat pussy
Cause I hate Nutraloaf so fucking much
That I'm about to hurl my guts
All over the penitentiary

(Goofy)
There's nothing can upset me
Cuz Jesus is my way
Our prison pastor guides us straight and true
(Nick)
Oh Anna, please forgive me
We'll get married someday
Though Kentucky might exist when we do

(Goofy) Me and Nick, spendin' the rest of our days-
(Nick) This is worse than buttholes withoot acne
(Goofy) In a heckhole that's soaked with pee-pee!
(Nick) I wanna listen to TMBG!
(Goofy) When I see those showers I could cry
(Nick) You know that's funny, so could I
(Both) Just being in the penitentiary!!

(Country girls)
Howdy boys, is this conjugal visit?
(Tow truck driver)
Watch it chomo!! Or you'll get shivved by me!!
(Wolf prisoner)
I'm just here trying to survive
But at least I won't be sixty five
When I'm out of the penitentiary

(Bald man) Just one more week of incarceration
(Her/him/it) Yeah!!
(Bald man) Before our gay wedding ceremony
(Nick) Wish it was me
(Mickey) Ho-ho! And with no hope of a prison bust!
(Old lady) You'll be here 'til you bite the dust
Right here in the penitentiary!!

(Goofy) Poor Nickie is a goner, cause he licked his sister's rear
(Nuns) You'll still get into heaven if you repent! AMEN!!!
(Nick) Can someone call my lawyer and get me oot of here
Cause I can prove that children can consent

(Chorus) Oh every day, another day of torture
Every night, another new dicking
And the hopes we had are gone for good
(Nick) And I'd kill myself if I could
(Chorus) I've got nothing in me
But dread and misery
Serving time in the state
Penitentiary!!!

 

[Flowers For Sonichu]

posts like the last five I just deleted are why this thread should have remained locked

 

[autism420]

did he get shanked yet

 

[VJ 120]

I doubt it, early in the thread there was heavy speculation that he would be in solitary (or minimal contact with other prisoners) due to his fucked-up-ness.

 

[Karen Riley]

Since it's 85 days since Nick got convicted surely sentencing either has to happen within the next five days or it's already happened right?

posts like the last five I just deleted are why this thread should have remained locked

After Nick's sentencing there's absolutely nothing to discuss so I wouldn't worry, heck after that I see no issue with permanently locking the thread.

 

[DrJonesHat]

Lock it after sentencing, and maybe have a short thread just to update on the outcome of the appeal, but @AnOminous says we shouldn't expect anything from that.