The Holocaust Thread - The Great Debate Between Affirmers, Revisionists and Deniers

[Chugger]

I'll be fine going to any of the sites and testing the soil, right? In fact surely that must already have been done. What were the results?

Belzec results were posted on the previous page. they found mass amounts of cremains but no oil. cremains don't turn into oil anyway, or at least not for millions of years. the camps are closed off during nighttime, but in the case of Chelmno the Jews were buried outside the camp (cremains of ~200,000)

based on this the grave site is completely open giving you access at night when it is sure to be unattended if you want to take soil samples

the graves are marked out

so you have the opportunity to confirm this study at least to some degree

I suggest you get your samples DNA tested to confirm the cremains are of human (and Jewish?) origin

I guess it is a mystery why no revisionists have done this considering all the time they spent puttering around the Auchwitz crema ruins. It's almost like they are afraid of what they will find.

 

[Linako 2.0]

And we're back.
Yolo swag.

 

[the clap]

And we're back.
Yolo swag.

Fo' shoah

 

[Stabmaster Arson II]

cremains don't turn into oil anyway, or at least not for millions of years

This guy is autistic and doesn't understand humour.

Where is that link to proof of those soil samples? Would be pretty interesting to read. See who made the study, how it was conducted, what the results were.

 

[Green Man]

Damn, both of the shills vanished after the site went down, either the Mossad checks bounced [imagine that] or they fell victim to disposable email addresses. Oy vey!

 

[Chugger]

This guy is autistic and doesn't understand humour.

Where is that link to proof of those soil samples? Would be pretty interesting to read. See who made the study, how it was conducted, what the results were.

Here ya go https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/hol...esearch-in-the-grounds-of-the-che--t1771.html

Methodology and results starting from page 59

Of course you don't trust any of this, so again if you want you could make a midnight trek to the cemetery (which is in a remote part of the forest and not closed off) and start excavating the graves. They are conveniently marked out.

 

[Bonesjones]

Guys don't believe my lack of evidence, just go dig it up yourself! It's not like we wouldn't immediately discredit anything you find contranarrative as a lunatic trying to destroy evidence. They'd probably just murder you right after, it's not like they've spent the past 70 years hunting down any 100 year old they can find.

 

[Chugger]

Guys don't believe my lack of evidence, just go dig it up yourself!

Stabmeister asked if he could personally go to a site and "test the soil". I understand you think there's proverbial Jews hiding in the bushes waiting for somebody to do this, but there's no evidence of this so ostensibly he could go do it @ Chelmno. Revisionists trumpet evidence Leuchter and Rudolf gathered from Auschwitz, so I don't think this would hurt your case -- that is if there's nothing under there.

 

[Bonesjones]

Stabmeister asked if he could personally go to a site and "test the soil". I understand you think there's proverbial Jews hiding in the bushes waiting for somebody to do this, but there's no evidence of this so ostensibly he could go do it @ Chelmno. Revisionists trumpet evidence Leuchter and Rudolf gathered from Auschwitz, so I don't think this would hurt your case -- that is if there's nothing under there.

Sorry the best you can muster is broken links because you can't even do the sole thing this website asks you to do, which is archive everything.

Also why was Leuchter's life ruined if what he said was so valued and important. You discredit yourself every time you open your mouth because you are a literal retard.

 

[Chugger]

Also why was Leuchter's life ruined if what he said was so valued and important.

I have no idea why his life was ruined. I didn't watch the Errol Morris documentary. He wasn't imprisoned or I think even fined for what he did at Auschwitz. The word on him is he's sort of a shady guy and that's coming from fellow revisionist Jim Rizoli https://rodoh.info/thread/348/rizoli-breaks-crook-fred-leuchter

Unfortunately because revisionists have zero positive evidence to back up their claim that millions of Jews were transported into Russia and maintained there by Nazis, finding physical evidence of lack of cremains at supposed grave sites is probably your best option of turning the tide. Revisionism has gone downhill in terms of popular acceptance in the last 30 years. The most popular public adherents, David Irving and David Cole, have abandoned it. Even someone like Nick Fuentes doesn't like the subject and is reticent to call himself a revisionist.

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

Idk if this was posted yet but check this out

The Curious case of Former Holocaust Denier Eric Hunt

Eric Hunt used to deny the Holocaust and created several videos where he outlined his views. Since then, he has realized that the Holocaust did occur, and ha...

www.youtube.com

One of the most fervent holocaust deniers Eric Hunt finally came to the conclusion that the holocaust happened and even debated his former denialist buddy. His blogpost explaining this change is in the video description. Thought it might be good material for the people in the thread.

 

[Bonesjones]

I have no idea why his life was ruined. I didn't watch the Errol Morris documentary. He wasn't imprisoned or I think even fined for what he did at Auschwitz. The word on him is he's sort of a shady guy and that's coming from fellow revisionist Jim Rizoli https://rodoh.info/thread/348/rizoli-breaks-crook-fred-leuchter

Unfortunately because revisionists have zero positive evidence to back up their claim that millions of Jews were transported into Russia and maintained there by Nazis, finding physical evidence of lack of cremains at supposed grave sites is probably your best option of turning the tide. Revisionism has gone downhill in terms of popular acceptance in the last 30 years. The most popular public adherents, David Irving and David Cole, have abandoned it. Even someone like Nick Fuentes doesn't like the subject and is reticent to call himself a revisionist.

To show my vast intellect and general curiosity of things i am interested in, I just ignore giant parts of it completely. I claim to be an academic on the subject still. Definitely not a shill btw. Fuck off.

 

[Chugger]

To show my vast intellect and general curiosity of things i am interested in, I just ignore giant parts of it completely.

You think Leuchter's career troubles in the 90s is a giant part of Holocaust historiography? I beg to differ but OK

 

[mrolonzo]

I don't think this topic has much to do with smarts. eg Mattogno is clearly no dummy but is a steadfast believer in a historical hypothesis (millions of Jews were resettled in Russia) that has zero evidence. That he doesn't even see this as an issue speaks more to basic human flaws like stubbornness, ego, and unwillingness to look oneself in the mirror, and I think this applies equally to the deniers on this board who pass judgement without knowing very much about the subject beyond some memes.

Firstly. Glad to see you all again. I didn't think kf would actually make it through this battle.

Anyway, no. Revisionism knows records are scant for Jewish people going east but also that the demographic picture is decidedly distorted. These issues are all addressed thoroughly with absolutely no hiding from either the issues or the debate. Unlike hoaxers as like typical scam artists make every excuse to hide.

Moreover we on this side have adequate though ever insufficient knowledge and are prepared to read all and consider all arguments and all angles. In that we are second to none.

It's actually quite interesting how many single issue posters there have been for both sides. Obviously I posted mainly on this, and so did Chugger and HS all affirming the holocaust. But Rapechu did the same thing, and he was a denier. After he stopped arguing, he just completely stopped posting on KF. Mrolonzo also kept posting solely for this thread too, and he hasn't returned since KF went under.

Either way, you brought up a very good point sometime ago Lemmingwise. There is a whole lot of interesting stuff on this website other than Shilling for the Shoah, especially with the Keffals nonsense going down. It's not a good use of time arguing endlessly on the holocaust. It's a lot more fun to engage with everything else.

I came to this thread because hoaxers were gaslighting young men. Subsequently they're narrative was thoroughly trounced by revisionists right here. Just at that point. When all the major angles of contention were covered, kf itself was taken down by the online tranny army.

A true indication that nazis are correct about everything if ever there was one.

 

[mrolonzo]

Belzec results were posted on the previous page. they found mass amounts of cremains but no oil. cremains don't turn into oil anyway, or at least not for millions of years. the camps are closed off during nighttime, but in the case of Chelmno the Jews were buried outside the camp (cremains of ~200,000)

based on this the grave site is completely open giving you access at night when it is sure to be unattended if you want to take soil samples

the graves are marked out

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so you have the opportunity to confirm this study at least to some degree

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I suggest you get your samples DNA tested to confirm the cremains are of human (and Jewish?) origin

I guess it is a mystery why no revisionists have done this considering all the time they spent puttering around the Auchwitz crema ruins. It's almost like they are afraid of what they will find.

If we're talking Chelmno it's because the evidence for this camp is considered the worst of all the camps. Sort of like, the revisionists think this allegation about Chelmno is laughable.

This guy is autistic and doesn't understand humour.

Where is that link to proof of those soil samples? Would be pretty interesting to read. See who made the study, how it was conducted, what the results were.

Don't expect much.

Damn, both of the shills vanished after the site went down, either the Mossad checks bounced [imagine that] or they fell victim to disposable email addresses. Oy vey!

Hoaxers are unlikely to return, except Chugger, who is dedicated.

Here ya go https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/hol...esearch-in-the-grounds-of-the-che--t1771.html

Methodology and results starting from page 59

Of course you don't trust any of this, so again if you want you could make a midnight trek to the cemetery (which is in a remote part of the forest and not closed off) and start excavating the graves. They are conveniently marked out.

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I suppose hoaxers like you could do the same.

I have no idea why his life was ruined. I didn't watch the Errol Morris documentary. He wasn't imprisoned or I think even fined for what he did at Auschwitz. The word on him is he's sort of a shady guy and that's coming from fellow revisionist Jim Rizoli https://rodoh.info/thread/348/rizoli-breaks-crook-fred-leuchter

Unfortunately because revisionists have zero positive evidence to back up their claim that millions of Jews were transported into Russia and maintained there by Nazis, finding physical evidence of lack of cremains at supposed grave sites is probably your best option of turning the tide. Revisionism has gone downhill in terms of popular acceptance in the last 30 years. The most popular public adherents, David Irving and David Cole, have abandoned it. Even someone like Nick Fuentes doesn't like the subject and is reticent to call himself a revisionist.

Stop lying. You know exactly why his life was ruined.

And we've been through this stuff about evidence already in this thread. Before the ddos attack. Demographics, execution methods, plans, budgets, mass graves, all dealt with. Revisionism has been steadily improving and increasing over the last years while the holocaust has dwindled as an authoritative narrative. This despite the massive support for it.

The truth will out.

Idk if this was posted yet but check this out

The Curious case of Former Holocaust Denier Eric Hunt

Eric Hunt used to deny the Holocaust and created several videos where he outlined his views. Since then, he has realized that the Holocaust did occur, and ha...

www.youtube.com

One of the most fervent holocaust deniers Eric Hunt finally came to the conclusion that the holocaust happened and even debated his former denialist buddy. His blogpost explaining this change is in the video description. Thought it might be good material for the people in the thread.

This angry and frightened man got butthurt when Rudolf told him to stick to the facts and use only the highest level of information. He's now out the game altogether.

Added interest; full interview Jim Rizoli with Germar Rudolf where he explains the situation comprehensively;

Jim Rizoli Germar Rudolf 5-27-22

View Jim Rizoli Germar Rudolf 5-27-22 on Odysee

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[mrolonzo]

Idk if this was posted yet but check this out

The Curious case of Former Holocaust Denier Eric Hunt

Eric Hunt used to deny the Holocaust and created several videos where he outlined his views. Since then, he has realized that the Holocaust did occur, and ha...

www.youtube.com

One of the most fervent holocaust deniers Eric Hunt finally came to the conclusion that the holocaust happened and even debated his former denialist buddy. His blogpost explaining this change is in the video description. Thought it might be good material for the people in the thread.

What seems to have occurred, doubt was put in his mind by David Cole while he was also being urged to be reasonable and exact about facts. Then cole showed him a photo that is alleged to be a woman being forced into a gas chamber (nonsense). He then debated fritz berg about this, who lambasted him for falling foul of deception and turning his hatred now on German people. He then disappeared. Germar Rudolf explains the exact timeline of his sinking into insanity very well and I'll dig out that interview piece asap.

 

[Linako 2.0]

based on this the grave site is completely open giving you access at night when it is sure to be unattended if you want to take soil samples

Of course you don't trust any of this, so again if you want you could make a midnight trek to the cemetery (which is in a remote part of the forest and not closed off) and start excavating the graves. They are conveniently marked out.

Why are you suggesting tresspassing?
That's illegal.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

I have no idea why his life was ruined. I didn't watch the Errol Morris documentary. He wasn't imprisoned or I think even fined for what he did at Auschwitz. The word on him is he's sort of a shady guy and that's coming from fellow revisionist Jim Rizoli https://rodoh.info/thread/348/rizoli-breaks-crook-fred-leuchter

Unfortunately because revisionists have zero positive evidence to back up their claim that millions of Jews were transported into Russia and maintained there by Nazis, finding physical evidence of lack of cremains at supposed grave sites is probably your best option of turning the tide. Revisionism has gone downhill in terms of popular acceptance in the last 30 years. The most popular public adherents, David Irving and David Cole, have abandoned it. Even someone like Nick Fuentes doesn't like the subject and is reticent to call himself a revisionist.

People have been pressured and intimidated to drop the Holocaust revisionist narrative over threats of legal action thanks to Holocaust denial laws. Either that or they would sell out to the adversaries in exchange of meaningless luxuries. In Germany and many other countries with such laws, people were imprisoned for years even for the slightest mention of Holocaust revisionism. Germany other parts of Europe have become shitholes filled with rapists because their governments demand people not to question them allowing this shit to happen.

 

[Gog & Magog]

Why do so many revisionists insist the Nazis are unfairly blamed for the death of millions of Jews when the Nazis made it clear time and again they perceived the Jews as an existential threat? Regardless of whatever reevaluation takes place, the Nazis were still the biggest assholes in Europe next to the Soviets.

 

[Big Al's Famous Pork]

People have been pressured to drop the holocaust revision narrative because nobody wants to be associated with Nazi weirdos.