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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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If Polish Armaments Group builds enough capacity to export the K239-PL, I think they are going to cut into Lockmart's sales significantly. If for no other reason than delivery dates for HIMARS are currently "some day." Norway's Kongsberg has entered a joint venture with Hanwha that involves the Redback and the K239 launcher. If they put the launcher on a Volvo A30, like the Archer, I might die laughing in glee.
Not a problem as the reason why HIMARS, Abrams and other U.S. made vehicles, gear and ammo is "some day" is because the U.S. M.I.C. is backlogged tying them up for the immediate forseeable future. Plus with U.S. and S.K. military relationship is very friendly; S.K. is actually doing the U.S. a huge favor filling in for other people who need old and/or new stuff soon as possible.

If S.K. M.I.C. taking new orders was a political problem it wouldn't take much for D.C. to kick S.K. in the nuts and get those sales canceled.
 
Well regular Russian soldiers are not allowed to keep their phone while in combat zones
This rule is often ignored. Imagine being in all this shit without even a smartphone to kill time when things are slow (if there's a way to keep it charged that is).
There's been countless cases where Russian soldiers stole smartphones from people, even a well documented one when little girl's phone was recovered by Ukrainian soldiers from the Russian that took it.

All in all, I think your average Russian soldier doesn't have the same enthusiasm for documenting the action that a lot of Ukrainian fighters do, for territorial defense guys it's like a goddamn safari out there. But they're most certainly using phones whenever they manage to get one.
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Though I kinda feel bad for that drunk bastard sporting the fucked up fauxhawk; so wasted he doesn't even know where he's at, and is probably already dead, both inside & out.
God, this dude's mannerisms are killing me, he's holding that gun like he's a retarded child with a toy. Christ, what a fucking disgrace, bunch of goddamn criminals "defending" motherland. Great representation.
 
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This rule is often ignored. Imagine being in all this shit without even a smartphone to kill time when things are slow (if there's a way to keep it charged that is).
They ordered us not to bring our phones downrange for OIF 1-2 (for a plethora of reasons, sound or stupid). Some were threatened with UCMJ, others simply had their phones confiscated until getting back to garrison. But by OIF 3, our commands instead only issued strong recommendations instead of orders, that we leave our phones at home primarily to prevent loss/damage/theft.
But by my last deployment the Army had entirely relaxed their stance on troops keeping personal phones downrange, and at the end almost everyone brought a cheap/expendable phone, if only to take pictures & play mobile games in the bunkers.
God, this dude's mannerisms are killing me, he's holding that gun like he's a retarded child with a toy. Christ, what a fucking disgrace, bunch of goddamn criminals "defending" motherland. Great representation.
Only a few of them look like troops who've been on the front lines (except for maybe the drunken one), and all of them look like they were volunteered from different units (what are uniforms even lol); with only the most coherent being given the script to read.

Contrast that with all the unofficial footage from Ukrainians who have had the shit kicked out of them for months around Verdun 2.0, with losses possibly equal to those of the Russians.

Though we see them muddy, bloody, hungry, shell-shocked & rocking the 1000yd stare, or being carted off the battlefield missing pieces & losing blood, they are still universally motivated to stay or go back to the front, even though it may mean certain death.

That's the kind of shit that wins wars, NATO support or not. They were ready to fight & die from the start, and I don't doubt the Russians would still be dying by the bushel as well, in an insurgency packed with toys that would give even the most pious muj a hard-on.

Edit: Hell, their garbage-men are still working in Bakhmut.
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Not a problem as the reason why HIMARS, Abrams and other U.S. made vehicles, gear and ammo is "some day" is because the U.S. M.I.C. is backlogged tying them up for the immediate forseeable future. Plus with U.S. and S.K. military relationship is very friendly; S.K. is actually doing the U.S. a huge favor filling in for other people who need old and/or new stuff soon as possible.

If S.K. M.I.C. taking new orders was a political problem it wouldn't take much for D.C. to kick S.K. in the nuts and get those sales canceled.
Pretty much. There's no shame in letting others take up the slack when you're as far on back-orders as the USA is. Besides, I'm sure Lock-Mart is getting their cut somehow thanks to how far the US MIC has extended its tendrils into the free world as a result of Uncle Sam's military aid spending.
 
If Polish Armaments Group builds enough capacity to export the K239-PL, I think they are going to cut into Lockmart's sales significantly. If for no other reason than delivery dates for HIMARS are currently "some day." Norway's Kongsberg has entered a joint venture with Hanwha that involves the Redback and the K239 launcher. If they put the launcher on a Volvo A30, like the Archer, I might die laughing in glee.

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Polish Jelcz 8x8 with a hooklift. Same truck(minus the hooklift) will be the base for K239-PL launcher system.
Lockheed Martin will still sell missile packs, so I doubt it'll make too big of a dent in their bottom line. Also while people will accept a knock-off, everyone will want the name-brand.

I got the others but I need some help with this one.
 
Speaking of a lack of Russian footage, here's some that's fairly fresh & uncontrived.

Again.... it's spooky how much these front lines look like they could be anywhere in WW1; except in colorized, mechanized, all-weather HD. Along with dozens of new ways to die from airborne, guided or hovering death.

I'm starting to wonder if there's a point sooner rather than later, where they'll run out of populations & prisoners that can be volunteered into fighting. Russia still has a lot of manpower in their penal colonies & poor eastern oblasts, but I kind of doubt Putin has time enough left for things to get even that bad.
 
Jets are rather irrelevant in this war so far (besides some surprisingly successful sorties of the Russian Air Force on day 1) and tanks are used as dispensable siege towers for charges against entrenched positions. Germonies is right so far to not send Leos to Ukraine as long as we can burn through the rusty iron trash of the Ex Warsaw pact nations. Bradleys, old CV90s, M60s should be the absolute maximum.
I get the point about sending Warsaw thrash first, but I'm afraid that it's only enough to replace losses, and not expand Ukraine's forces. It would be a shame if opportunities such as the chance to sever the Novorossiya landbridge were lost because Ukraine lacks the firepower to break through. The purpose of NATO for most members is to defend against Russia and their equipment will do more good in Ukraine than in storage.

I got the others but I need some help with this one.
They are all references to the same thing. I like how that thing has become the Loss of this conflict.

I'm starting to wonder if there's a point sooner rather than later, where they'll run out of populations & prisoners that can be volunteered into fighting. Russia still has a lot of manpower in their penal colonies & poor eastern oblasts, but I kind of doubt Putin has time enough left for things to get even that bad.
I doubt that Putin will be overthrown soon, but he's probably fucked in the long term. In order to justify the cost and losses of this war, Russia must make greater gains in Ukraine, which in turn will lead to even more losses, which will have to be justified with more gains and so on and on.
 
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Ukraine war: Captured Russian documents reveal Moscow's 10-day plan to take over the country and kill its leaders​


Russia planned to start the invasion with a "massive missile and airstrike campaign" against Ukrainian military targets, RUSI says, with a list also showing who should be killed, who would be intimidated and who would be targeted as a collaborator.

A British defence and security think tank has revealed details of Moscow's pre-invasion plan for Ukraine, based on captured Russian documents apparently signed off by Vladimir Putin.

Russia had planned to take over Ukraine over 10 days and annex it by August this year, the Royal United Services Institute for Defence and Security Studies (RUSI) said.


According to the British Army-linked think tank, only a small group of Russian officials were aware of the full scale of the plans.

It said even deputy heads of branches within the Russian military were unaware of the plan to invade and occupy Ukraine until days before the invasion began, and tactical military units didn't receive orders until hours before.

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The documents also revealed that Russia planned to capture Ukraine's power stations, airfields, water supplies, central bank and parliament - and that Russian special services were tasked with killing the Ukrainian leadership.

They appeared to assume Ukrainian government officials would "either flee or be captured as a result of the speed of the invasion", RUSI said.



Ukraine's intelligence community also believes Russia planned to use Belarusian airborne units to capture the Rivne and Khmelnytsky nuclear power plants.

The invasion plan reportedly detailed plots to capture Ukraine's nuclear power plants in order to shelter Russian troops, gain control over the country's energy system, and potentially blackmail European countries with the risk of radiation pollution.

Russia planned to start the invasion with a "massive missile and airstrike campaign" against Ukrainian military targets, RUSI said.

It added that Moscow would not target critical infrastructure such as power stations and railways because these were key to its plans to occupy the country.

Russia's 'kill list'

The Russian counterintelligence regime had compiled lists of some Ukrainians, RUSI said.

They were divided into four categories:

  • Those who should be killed
  • Those in need of suppression and intimidation
  • Those considered neutral who should be encouraged to collaborate
  • Those prepared to collaborate.
Officials planned to register the population through door-to-door sweeps and filtration camps, the think tank said.

Russia also reportedly planned the coerced cooperation of regional governors and local authorities, and the FSB had been tasked with capturing local officials.


Over time, it planned to bring teachers and other officials from Russia to start the "re-education of Ukrainians".

Russia’s embassy in Spain said: “Any threat or terrorist act, especially directed against a diplomatic mission, are totally condemnable.”
I think the person who sent the letters is likely skitzo. It also wouldn’t surprise me if it was someone from the basque region who not only hates Spain but anyone with positive relations to Spain, ie the west.
 
The invasion plan reportedly detailed plots to capture Ukraine's nuclear power plants in order to shelter Russian troops, gain control over the country's energy system, and potentially blackmail European countries with the risk of radiation pollution.
It's terrifying how they immediately went to this as a strategy in war.
 
Over time, it planned to bring teachers and other officials from Russia to start the "re-education of Ukrainians".
History certainly rhymes.
Yeah, everything seems to check out. Bit more than they could chew, this is what happens when you start believing your own bullshit.
It's terrifying how they immediately went to this as a strategy in war.
But it's consistent with mongoloid gangster mentality.
 
The documents also revealed that Russia planned to capture Ukraine's power stations, airfields, water supplies, central bank and parliament - and that Russian special services were tasked with killing the Ukrainian leadership.
It does fit with what we saw in the opening days of the invasion. Russian forces made a bee-line for Kiev, with advanced special forces units operating inside the capital itself within the first couple of days, and they went for all of the major power producers they knew about - including chernobyl, even though it hasn't been in operation for 20 years.

It feels a bit too pat, though. I've always been wary about these "suddenly, documents!" sort of reveals, especially given that none of what has been reported about their contents is actually new information. Russian official media has said much of this out loud, without any attempt to hide it, and their objectives were obvious from the places where they kept sending troops to die. Their plan of capturing Odessa and major transport hubs, cutting Ukraine off from external support, showed that it wasn't just a limited excursion in the east. The only new part is the timeline of 10 days.

Presumably there's more in there that hasn't been reported.
 
It does fit with what we saw in the opening days of the invasion. Russian forces made a bee-line for Kiev, with advanced special forces units operating inside the capital itself within the first couple of days, and they went for all of the major power producers they knew about - including chernobyl, even though it hasn't been in operation for 20 years.
I wonder what will happen to all those Russians digging up trenches in Chernobyl…
It feels a bit too pat, though. I've always been wary about these "suddenly, documents!" sort of reveals, especially given that none of what has been reported about their contents is actually new information.
Yeah it’s always good to be skeptical. There wasn’t a whole lot new stuff dropped that anyone who was paying attention didn’t know. It was clear they expected to win quickly. Hence the pictures of dead Russians in riot gear and the thousands of other tells.
Russian official media has said much of this out loud, without any attempt to hide it, and their objectives were obvious from the places where they kept sending troops to die.
I had a silent generation neighbor growing up who was retired from the army. Fought in the Korean War and would tell a lot of stories. One of his favorite jokes was: How do you get a Soviet to talk? Give him a radio.

He told me that the Russians would basically say everything over unencrypted radio and phone calls. Everyone always thought his job was dangerous but all he had to do was translate because they’d say everything over the radio. Seems they haven’t changed much.

He was a linguist who’s parents were Russian immigrants who left during the communist revolution. Extremely based, I’ll miss the old chap. @JosephStalin reminds me of him.
Their plan of capturing Odessa and major transport hubs, cutting Ukraine off from external support, showed that it wasn't just a limited excursion in the east. The only new part is the timeline of 10 days.

Presumably there's more in there that hasn't been reported.
I wish we’d get the rest of it if there was more.
 
It does fit with what we saw in the opening days of the invasion. Russian forces made a bee-line for Kiev, with advanced special forces units operating inside the capital itself within the first couple of days, and they went for all of the major power producers they knew about - including chernobyl, even though it hasn't been in operation for 20 years.

It feels a bit too pat, though. I've always been wary about these "suddenly, documents!" sort of reveals, especially given that none of what has been reported about their contents is actually new information. Russian official media has said much of this out loud, without any attempt to hide it, and their objectives were obvious from the places where they kept sending troops to die. Their plan of capturing Odessa and major transport hubs, cutting Ukraine off from external support, showed that it wasn't just a limited excursion in the east. The only new part is the timeline of 10 days.

Presumably there's more in there that hasn't been reported.
I remember seeing captured documents from Russian officers in the first couple months or so, describing a few week plans for the invasion. I can't be arsed to look for it now, but in case someone knows what I'm referring to...
 
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Ukraine war: Captured Russian documents reveal Moscow's 10-day plan to take over the country and kill its leaders​


Russia planned to start the invasion with a "massive missile and airstrike campaign" against Ukrainian military targets, RUSI says, with a list also showing who should be killed, who would be intimidated and who would be targeted as a collaborator.

A British defence and security think tank has revealed details of Moscow's pre-invasion plan for Ukraine, based on captured Russian documents apparently signed off by Vladimir Putin.

Russia had planned to take over Ukraine over 10 days and annex it by August this year, the Royal United Services Institute for Defence and Security Studies (RUSI) said.


According to the British Army-linked think tank, only a small group of Russian officials were aware of the full scale of the plans.

It said even deputy heads of branches within the Russian military were unaware of the plan to invade and occupy Ukraine until days before the invasion began, and tactical military units didn't receive orders until hours before.

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The documents also revealed that Russia planned to capture Ukraine's power stations, airfields, water supplies, central bank and parliament - and that Russian special services were tasked with killing the Ukrainian leadership.

They appeared to assume Ukrainian government officials would "either flee or be captured as a result of the speed of the invasion", RUSI said.



Ukraine's intelligence community also believes Russia planned to use Belarusian airborne units to capture the Rivne and Khmelnytsky nuclear power plants.

The invasion plan reportedly detailed plots to capture Ukraine's nuclear power plants in order to shelter Russian troops, gain control over the country's energy system, and potentially blackmail European countries with the risk of radiation pollution.

Russia planned to start the invasion with a "massive missile and airstrike campaign" against Ukrainian military targets, RUSI said.

It added that Moscow would not target critical infrastructure such as power stations and railways because these were key to its plans to occupy the country.

Russia's 'kill list'

The Russian counterintelligence regime had compiled lists of some Ukrainians, RUSI said.

They were divided into four categories:

  • Those who should be killed
  • Those in need of suppression and intimidation
  • Those considered neutral who should be encouraged to collaborate
  • Those prepared to collaborate.
Officials planned to register the population through door-to-door sweeps and filtration camps, the think tank said.

Russia also reportedly planned the coerced cooperation of regional governors and local authorities, and the FSB had been tasked with capturing local officials.


Over time, it planned to bring teachers and other officials from Russia to start the "re-education of Ukrainians".


I think the person who sent the letters is likely skitzo. It also wouldn’t surprise me if it was someone from the basque region who not only hates Spain but anyone with positive relations to Spain, ie the west.
Kinda buffs me up how Poodin and his goons thought this is a good plan. I mean the US called out their troop gathering over months since late 2021 and released pics of every single army depot along the border AND STILL they thought this "suprise attack" would somehow be hot news. The only advantage they had was weaponized retardation since nobody thought, that he would be retarded enough to pull it through. These first ten days of the war honestly need to be turned into a movie or even better a 180min documentary with uncensored footage. Has someone any footage/videos from the fight near Kiev and against the GRU saboteurs? I only started to follow the war after the Hostomel disaster. So my knowledge about the first few days is kinda limited.

Probably the first video I saw was from a bumbfuck nowhere town north of Kiev were a Ukie gypsy pulled a conscriptovich from a lonely BMP and beat him to death with a glass bottle. Almost on tier with the Ghost of Kyiv memes.
 
Oh wow, ok. That's some next level shit. I figured it was suppose to be The Site™ but hadn't done the color match. That really separates the russian milspec blowjob superfans from the casuals.
There's also two dots in the carved-out section that I think are supposed to represent the trysters.
 
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