EFF launching campaign against content policing by ISPs

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No, but if you don't at least argue the point, they'll take that as admission of guilt.

You  know how their minds work.
They never let the opposing side get a say in. Have you READ the discussion on the Kiwifarms' wiki page? The powermod who locked editing said essentially "if we need to say the earth is flat in order to say what we want about kiwifarms, then we will say the earth is flat, and if you try and argue that the earth is not flat we will delete that edit."
 
This document is a pretty devastating blow to the aspirations of these censorious scumbags. I talked about wanting a single document that could be easily shared and replicated and did some writing
Cuz they're just repeating media lies and I have no say over it. What am I supposed to do? Sue them?
These are both examples of actions, rather than just words. For the former, great, keep writing, doing something is pretty cool. For the latter, keeping this site up through this debacle is a pretty awesome act, it’s doing something. It’s a good move to not let these troons dictate a battles terms, they’ll say what they want, when they want, same as anyone.
No, but if you don't at least argue the point, they'll take that as admission of guilt.

You  know how their minds work.
Fighting each instance of public smearing behooves no one but dickless wonders who now get to set the terms if they are responded to and get attention from each instance of their lies or demands. In a time where many are suffering from severe lack of integrity, actions still speak louder than (especially constant) words. Words and actions matching shows integrity. Speak and act on your own terms. I get what you are saying, and it’s good to speak when you think it’s worth it, with your actions backing you up. As for those troons and others who name reality backwards and force others to go along to get along, the tables always turn.
 
No, but if you don't at least argue the point, they'll take that as admission of guilt.

You  know how their minds work.
In the eyes of the Troon Brigade, we are guilty irrespective of any evidence. They do not fucking care what reality is. If you inconvenience them in any way, you are the enemy, your crimes are infinite, and any action taken against you is justified in their eyes. Don't have any evidence of wrongdoing? Do what the Reddit Jannies do and fucking fabricate it to shut down subs that break no rules and simply annoy them in some way. Can't fucking do that? Get some shithead journo hack who would get laughed out of buzzfeed in any rational world to print your lies until you create a fucking circular logic where you claim something is bad, because wikipedia says so, and the reason is because the wikipedia article cites the news article says you say the thing is bad as proof. They have no responsibilities and infinite time to do this.

Welcome to the totalizing worldview that these deranged clowns prescribe to, and why every single second of existence spent in defiance of them is its own tiny reward.

For what it's worth, the EFF has been building to this a while. The last several times they came out against the Troons' tactics, they got called Nazis in so many words. At this point, the EFF has to realize exactly what a threat these assholes are to absolutely everyone on the internet, themselves included.
 
If you try to argue though, some lapdog like Ben Collins will show up and call you a liar and then every future mainstream article will feature some line like "Joshua Moon, the Kiwi Farms owner, claims X but reporting by MSM disinformation expert Hiredgun Fuckface actually shows that is untrue."

Anything you say will just be twisted agaisnt you, better to just not engage.
It's like modern day Pharisees. For one reason or another they've already made their minds up, whatever you say does not matter. And the more you try to stay on the public eye in order to defend yourself the worse it gets, since they don't shy away from employing any number of ad hominems, and other funny fallacies like guilt by association.

"I didn't do it, here's evidence"
"You obviously DID do it, stop spreading disinformation, Hiredgun Fuckface's already proven you wrong"
"Here's even more evidence of why I didn't do it"
"OMG why are you defending yourself so much? Why don't you just admit guilt? That must mean you hate transwomen that much, that you're a total phobe!"

Among other things, we've seen that pattern of behaviour very clearly in the Rittenhouse trial. You can be objectively 100% correct from the get go, and it will not matter at all. Subpeople like journo scum will leave the metaphorical court madder at you for having had the absolute gall to defend yourself when you're already "morally guilty" of being on the wrong side of herstory.
 
Already told chat that these niggas were gay and can't turn away from it.

Avoid at all costs. (P.S. I bought a hoodie from them way back when and I ABSOLUTELY wholeheartedly regret it. If there is some EFF nigga randomly coming across this post years after it was made, fuck you. minecraft yourself cunt.)
 
Sorry for double post, but I have a little clarification about the supposed hatred for trannies here on Kiwifarms.
I haven't read all the threads in the Stinkditch section, but considering what I read, I think that the "KF hates trans people!" statement is completely wrong.
I haven't seen the farms go after a "normal" (if we could say so) tranny: for normal, I mean a person who decides to transition and go on with his life. I still think that a person who cuts his dick off is mentally ill, but if their mental illness ends there, there's no problem for me: they can do what they want with their bodies.

When I see the farms opening a thread about a tranny, his tranny-dom is never the main point. The person deserves a thread because:
- is grooming minors;
- attempts to make minors transition behind their parents' backs;
- is a grifter who abuses GoFundMe to suck off people's money;
- is attempting to silence dissent and reasonable discussion about transgenderism;
- rapes or attempts to rape people;
- invades women's online spaces and demands to be accepted without discussion;
- involves himself in autistic internet drama with youtubers, bloggers, real life celebrities, etc.;
Considering all of this, it looks like that their tranny-dom is only a crazy addition to a list of far worse actions that the person has made.
If a person who does all of the above wasn't a tranny, but a cis-hetero man, wouldn't he have a thread on here? I think he would.

That's why the whole "KF hates trans people!" narrative falls apart.
so heres the thing anyone who has any form of a brain left can look at this website and and understand this is not some anti trans place its not some place where we all conspire to dox as many trans people as possible and harass them till they off themselves either. im sure some people who use this site do hate trans people and want them dead just like there are people who are racist or sexist or whatever else.

the thing is however regardless of our opinions on these sorts of topics we all understand the value of free speech. nobody even someone you dont agree with should be prevented from saying whats on their mind. this website is proof that free speech can exist and people can all coexist regardless of their thoughts and feelings on various subjects.

as far as the people who have threads here or are just talked about ill keep it simple. a regular person would not have a thread here or even be talked about. the people we have threads on and who we laugh at get this attention for a reason and its not because they are trans. in fact im pretty sure all the trans people that have threads here have something about them that keeps their threads going. like for example keffals is trans sure. but he is also a massive ego maniac who thinks its a good idea to give children bathtub hormones.

long story short i dont think kiwi farms hates trans people some of its users might but at the same time some the sites users are also trans themselves. this place is not a hive mind one person doing or thinking a way does not mean we all think that way. the people who accuse us of that are just way too use to their echo chambers on twitter and tumblr where any opinion thats not seen as the right one is purged.
 
I dont get the impression that the EFF is our friend or that I should have any faith in them to stand up to bullies. We will be one of those exceptions theyre talking about.
I agree. There's a non-zero chance that taking down KF is one of those "rare instances" the EFF is referring to. Anyone that believes the "Protect The Stack" campaign will benefit the Farms is being optimistic at best, and downright delusional at worst.

(yeah, I know Null posted that article from the EFF tut-tutting Cloudflare... but that article comes across as a milquetoast attempt to appease the few remaining old timey EFF members that joined 30 years ago)
 
so heres the thing anyone who has any form of a brain left can look at this website and and understand this is not some anti trans place its not some place where we all conspire to dox as many trans people as possible and harass them till they off themselves either. im sure some people who use this site do hate trans people and want them dead just like there are people who are racist or sexist or whatever else.

the thing is however regardless of our opinions on these sorts of topics we all understand the value of free speech. nobody even someone you dont agree with should be prevented from saying whats on their mind. this website is proof that free speech can exist and people can all coexist regardless of their thoughts and feelings on various subjects.

as far as the people who have threads here or are just talked about ill keep it simple. a regular person would not have a thread here or even be talked about. the people we have threads on and who we laugh at get this attention for a reason and its not because they are trans. in fact im pretty sure all the trans people that have threads here have something about them that keeps their threads going. like for example keffals is trans sure. but he is also a massive ego maniac who thinks its a good idea to give children bathtub hormones.

long story short i dont think kiwi farms hates trans people some of its users might but at the same time some the sites users are also trans themselves. this place is not a hive mind one person doing or thinking a way does not mean we all think that way. the people who accuse us of that are just way too use to their echo chambers on twitter and tumblr where any opinion thats not seen as the right one is purged.
The rapidly-growing enemy of Kiwifarms doesn't give a fuck about anything beyond "me must win, you must lose." If there was a big button that could kill everyone using this website they would absolutely push it. None of them have any interest in ethics, reason, debate. They would bulldoze random or innocent people to get whatever it is they wanted. The only concern for them is collateral damage & there is none when you effectively demonize the bad guy.

More on-topic EFF is completely pozzed with glownigger cum & will play ball the moment someone holds their donations ransom. If that doesn't work some board member will find their wife or kids killed by the maid. If you have any faith in this group not fagging out I have a bridge to sell you in southwest Nevada.
 
- is attempting to silence dissent and reasonable discussion about transgenderism;
To expand on that a little bit, I'd say that many people on here like yours truly actually feel bad for regular ass people with a poorly-resolved mental illness/paraphilia being subjected to butchery. I don't want to see trannies, as a whole, suffer. Quite the contrary: if they want to cut their dicks off then sure, go ahead, but do so with informed consent, which is to say, expect a stinkditch that you have to dilate as opposed to I Can't Believe It's not Pussy! ™️

"Doctors" like that one butcher we have a thread about mutilating their patients, getting paid for it, then fucking off as patient is left with a shitty stinkditch, and nowhere to even talk about it online or offline is perhaps one of the biggest contributors to 41%, and breaks my heart (:_(
 
You're a faggot furry who fucks animals.
1670021195851.pngThat's it, George, you're going down.
You and your waifu.
Link to the Past Zelda-loving negrate harvesting motherfucker.
Gonna give you a heart just to piss you off.
 
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what's the point?, it has already been proven with 8chan and the daily stormer is that all it takes is one loud tranny
even with a world without trannies, EFF is like piss to the wind, in a hurricane, no major ISP will give a shit because they won't be effected and even if they are they won't listen
and what gives that they will magically make an exception for us unlike what cloudflare did?
 
Just in case anyone is confused about where the EFF is coming from, this link from the OP says:

Moreover, at the platform level, companies that engage in content moderation consistently reflect and reinforce bias against marginalized communities. Examples abound: Facebook decided, in the midst of the #MeToo movement’s rise, that the statement “men are trash” constitutes hateful speech.

Of all the censorship that Facebook does censoring an anti male phrase is hi lighted as a problem because is biases marginalized communities!!!

Is there any other group they would make this argument for? “Blacks are trash”, “women are trash”, “Jews are trash”.

I hope they are successful in this initiative because it will help us, but ultimately they are pozzed.
 
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