EFF launching campaign against content policing by ISPs

[Caroline Farrow]

I come on here on a Friday night to decompress and laugh and what do I find?

A fine quote from one of the UK’s greatest and most admirable saints, St Thomas More, from the outstanding Man for All Seasons.

Who said this site wasn’t cultured? I’m not joking, that’s made my day.

You’re doing the Lord’s work my fellow Kiwis.

God sneed.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

I want to believe I really do.

Don't.

Me too. Me too.

Don't. Let's see them go to court to defend someone whose speech they truly disagree with.

Taking a stance like this requires unflinching dedication in the face of harsh societal critique, something it seems the EFF can't stand up to. I'm forced to take a position of "I wish you luck", but not really feel anything more than that. I might be compelled to donate in the past, but they lost any of that faith, I think they'll just buckle.

They will buckle, happily and willingly.

I wouldn't bet money that the EFF would stand up for us if their backs were really against the wall

They won't stand up for us. Notice how this is timed with Elon Musk banning prominent far-left accounts. It's about salvaging them, not us.

I agree. There's a non-zero chance that taking down KF is one of those "rare instances" the EFF is referring to. Anyone that believes the "Protect The Stack" campaign will benefit the Farms is being optimistic at best, and downright delusional at worst.

We are that rare exception that deserves to be censored. And yes, people are being delusional for thinking this is something that can benefit KF.

Do they have any real power or is it just "guys this is bad pls stop it " type of campaign?

That's what it is, exactly this.

Whoever posted this thread, this is what people should be reading about the EFF instead of their websites.

As I stated before, I do not trust the EFF and none of this will change my mind. I wish I could say more.

 

[spacko]

I come on here on a Friday night to decompress and laugh and what do I find?

A fine quote from one of the UK’s greatest and most admirable saints, St Thomas More, from the outstanding Man for All Seasons.

Who said this site wasn’t cultured? I’m not joking, that’s made my day.

You’re doing the Lord’s work my fellow Kiwis.

God sneed.

nigger

 

[Dyn]

Is there any other group they would make this argument for? “Blacks are trash”, “women are trash”, “Jews are trash”.

They would absolutely defend your right to speech for all of those things but "people are being hindered from saying nigger words on the internet won't somebody think of the nigger-sayers" is clearly not the best line of argument to a broader audience.

 

[Elysian]

This is very cool. Hopefully the EFF will actually succeed in this endeavour.

Also @Null the word you’re looking for in this context is dissuade, not persuade.

 

[Diapershit]

Damn what'll they do if everybody finds out you can be ok with troons without morally cucking yourself and fully bending the knee.

 

[Involuntary Celebrity]

Just in case anyone is confused about where the EFF is coming from, this link from the OP says:



Of all the censorship that Facebook does censoring an anti male phrase is hi lighted as a problem because is biases marginalized communities!!!

Is there any other group they would make this argument for? “Blacks are trash”, “women are trash”, “Jews are trash”.

I hope they are successful in this initiative because it will help us, but ultimately they are pozzed.

If we're not a hivemind it'd be weird to treat the EFF as one.
Their track record is mostly pretty based. But I'm sure they know better than anyone how easily their legitimacy and hard work could be undermined if they get branded an enemy of the jews. Give em some latitude for tact in this shitty era.
Maybe they should have stayed loud this whole time like they used to but I bet there are a lot of zoomers and twitter retards who don't even know what the EFF is now, so that's the current situation for them to navigate if they want to get their mojo back.

 

[Paranoia Machine]

Cuz they're just repeating media lies and I have no say over it. What am I supposed to do? Sue them?

They will accept nothing less than blind fealty to them. In my opinion, you did the right thing in not stooping to their level for an argument. You laid down your piece and went back to your business, which was getting the site back up.
You remained level-headed in a stressful situation, you didn't bait them or debate them. If you do, you give them a microphone.
The thing they can't handle more than having a point for them to mental gymnastics through is to not take them seriously.
They are a self-solving problem.

Dumbass image I found, but this is kind of the caliber of what we're up against.
I'm not all too worried about them.

 

[Meiwaku]

Cuz they're just repeating media lies and I have no say over it. What am I supposed to do? Sue them?

If you've learned anything from Russel Greer and that other retard woman it's that being annoying is very powerful until you meet someone whose as autistic and annoying as you. In the very least, it makes people mald over finances.

Cons of suing: you're going against giant jews who have lots of money. Expensive for both parties to an extend depending upon the suit type. Emotionally vexing (likely nothing too much worse than what you usually get).

Pros of suing: it's would be funny.

 

[Runch]

Torn between the importance of taking a clear stand and promoting a viewpoint that could attract allies, vs. poking the sleeping bear of ISPs and forcing them to "take a side" which may not work out in anyone's favor.

Putting your cards on the table lets others know what they're up against, where they need to attack, and they don't even need to let anyone else know they're doing it. Just quietly get more trannies hired into ISPs to pull the levers when instructed.

But I understand the need to reiterate obvious things like this once in a while, or people forget this was ever the policy.

 

[McSneaks]

The Internet Is Not Facebook: Why Infrastructure Providers Should Stay Out of Content Policing

Cloudflare’s recent headline-making decision to refuse its services to KiwiFarms—a site notorious for allowing its users to wage harassment campaigns against trans people—is likely to lead to more calls for infrastructure companies to police online speech. Although EFF would shed no tears at the...

www.eff.org

a site notorious for allowing its users to wage harassment campaigns against trans people

That's literally a blatant lie though? Yea the rest sounds good, but when you start with something that's literally completely made up, with 0 evidence, which means you never even looked into it but are still speaking on it, doesn't really give much faith that they won't go "BUT NOW THEY ARE LITERALLY MURDERING BABIES IN EXCHANGE FOR ACCOUNTS" and roll.

 

[Paranoia Machine]

doesn't really give much faith that they won't go "BUT NOW THEY ARE LITERALLY MURDERING BABIES IN EXCHANGE FOR ACCOUNTS" and roll.

This is such an old tired misconception.
Yes, I have a Kiwifarms account.
Yes, I kill babies, but the two are not connected and frankly I will be offended if all our efforts are only tied into registration.

 

[The Noise]

That's literally a blatant lie though? Yea the rest sounds good, but when you start with something that's literally completely made up, with 0 evidence, which means you never even looked into it but are still speaking on it, doesn't really give much faith that they won't go "BUT NOW THEY ARE LITERALLY MURDERING BABIES IN EXCHANGE FOR ACCOUNTS" and roll.

My theory is that they know this but if they say "Kiwifarms isn't bad actually" then people will ignore every other point of their argument and accuse them of being associated with the evil murdering transphobes. Ergo it's good to pretend to pretend to be allied to the popular opinion.

It sucks, but with internet discourse being how it is that's what it's come to.

 

[Markass the Worst]

My theory is that they know this but if they say "Kiwifarms isn't bad actually" then people will ignore every other point of their argument and accuse them of being associated with the evil murdering transphobes. Ergo it's good to pretend to pretend to be allied to the popular opinion.

It sucks, but with internet discourse being how it is that's what it's come to.

Unfortunately even when sucking the tranny cock they are still vilified for daring to suggest stack censorship has consequences that will come to bite them in the ass once the pendulum swings in the other direction.

 

[Big Al's Famous Pork]

The EFF is maintaining the same position it has for decades. There is no conspiracy or really anything to deep thunk about.

 

[The Noise]

Unfortunately even when sucking the tranny cock they are still vilified for daring to suggest stack censorship has consequences that will come to bite them in the ass once the pendulum swings in the other direction.

Online trans community has already established that it will not tolerate any criticisms whether or not you walk on eggshells. Just throw their words back in their faces when an authoritarian shithole blocks a trans lifeline website at the ISP level for the same reasons Cloudflare gave for blocking Kiwifarms.

 

[nym]

I come on here on a Friday night to decompress and laugh and what do I find?

A fine quote from one of the UK’s greatest and most admirable saints, St Thomas More, from the outstanding Man for All Seasons.

Who said this site wasn’t cultured? I’m not joking, that’s made my day.

Yeah I noted that and loved seeing it too. For those who've never seen it or know nothing about More, that great film is highly recommended, and it's necessary thought in this age where all principles seem to have been lost.
https://flixtor.video/movie/a-man-for-all-seasons-4ypm/1-full
^should watch tonite if you haven't

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EFF is one of the few that I've donated to, one I still pick out on Humble Bundle when I can, etc. (Doctors Without Borders being my other favorite I guess)... although in the last few years I've heard some disappointing things out of them, thankfully they haven't sacrificed their principled stances on freedoms on the internet. Thank you, EFF.

 

[AnOminous]

journos are fags. i don't care how their mind works. im not going to bother.

The only proper response to these subhuman nematodes is kill yourself you scum.

My theory is that they know this but if they say "Kiwifarms isn't bad actually" then people will ignore every other point of their argument and accuse them of being associated with the evil murdering transphobes.

I like when their "Kiwi Farms is really horrible but. . .umm. . ." and then they make it sound pretty fun. That part's funny.

We all know. We see your threads hating each other. And you all use shit you got from the Farms. You'd never admit it, but you do.

We see you.

 

[Tomboy Supremacist]

Another one of the many losses for Queen Keffals

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

I find it hard to believe that the people this article is aimed at don't already know this, I think they just don't care. The feelings and more importantly reputation of not just people like Long Gone Dong Jones but the whole movement that spawned these freaks is more important than profit or ethics. So good luck with this campaign.

Also it's fucking hilarious that all the discussion over this site is about troons and how it affects them. No one in the media gives a shit about hundreds of people we discus or alog that aren't dickless clowns.

This is the CWCki forum. All discussion that is not related to Christian Weston Chandler, the hand-drawn original creator of Sonichu, Rosechu, and all other electric hedgehog Pokémon, is strictly against the site’s TOS and should result in an insta-permaban.