Unpopular Opinions about Video Games

[byuu]

While I don't know that I agree with Wesker on '1 wasn't cheesy', if you need to ask how 'large Alaskan man too into religion' is less cheesy than 'fat man on roller blades that loves bombs', or 'man who breaks arms backwards and spider crawls away before turning invisable', than I don't know what to say.

That should be 'tank obsessed eskimo shaman with spiritual powers that comes at you with his pet ravens.'.

 

[Local Degenerate]

That should be 'tank obsessed eskimo shaman with spiritual powers that comes at you with his pet ravens.'.

Why is everyone stupid so confident in it?

Tank obsessed: He fights you in a tank once. He never mentions the tank, never jerks it off like Ocelot does with his gun, and when it goes down, he doesn't give one hot shit.
Eskimo Shaman: This is true, but inuit do have shaman. It's literally a thing.
Spiritual powers: Only shows up in Twin Snakes, which is not canon, unless you think Snake is Dante.
Comes at you with his pet ravens: Literally never. The closest thing to this is, again, in Twin Snakes, where he shoots his tattoo at you for...reasons. Edit: Hell, ravens do more damage to him than to Snake.

 

[byuu]

Why is everyone stupid so confident in it?

Tank obsessed: He fights you in a tank once. He never mentions the tank, never jerks it off like Ocelot does with his gun, and when it goes down, he doesn't give one hot shit.
Eskimo Shaman: This is true, but inuit do have shaman. It's literally a thing.
Spiritual powers: Only shows up in Twin Snakes, which is not canon, unless you think Snake is Dante.
Comes at you with his pet ravens: Literally never. The closest thing to this is, again, in Twin Snakes, where he shoots his tattoo at you for...reasons. Edit: Hell, ravens do more damage to him than to Snake.

Dude, did you completely block the actual scenes out?
The same thing in Twin Snakes happens in the original too:

Watch this shit and tell me this isn't cheesy as hell.

 

[Local Degenerate]

Dude, did you completely block the actual scenes out?
The same thing in Twin Snakes happens in the original too:

Watch this shit and tell me this isn't cheesy as hell.

I actually did forget that happened in the original too. He does indeed give you a little spoop with his tattoo. I was wrong on that.

Doesn't change the fact that literally nothing else you said was right, including 'comes at you with his pet ravens'.

Also, I never said it wasn't cheesy. It's right there in my first post, disagreeing with Wesker that it's not.

 

[byuu]

Doesn't change the fact that literally nothing else you said was right, including 'comes at you with his pet ravens'.

But he does. Literally the first thing that happens. And you even agreed that he's an eskimo shaman. And yeah it is fucking cheesy ass hell to have a fucking shaman with spiritual powers in your "serious military thriller".
You do know those big fat bomb defusal suits are also an actual thing? Doesn't mean the Fatman fight wasn't silly either.

"The ravens said you are a true warrior"
Wow, it's like I'm really in a Tom Clancy novel!

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

I don't even see how the characters of MGS 1 are cheesy. They're just like...fucking GI Joe characters. At least all of their "things" made sense with their backstory and job as a special forces unit. Big Inuit uses a big gun and has spiritual powers. Crackshot gunslinger uses revolvers to give himself a challenge and has a cowboy thing going on. Sniper woman likes canines and uses a Sniper. Spy shaved all his bones down to take on any appearance. Psychic is a scrawny piece of shit that hates everyone cause he hears all their thoughts.

Like it's "cheesy" but it gives them personality far more than just "generic sniper, generic big guy, generic shooter" etc. etc.

After that it was like weird just for the sake of weird. I mean...a vampire? A man who shoots bumblebees?

And like, say what you will about Sniper Wolf but her melodrama isn't nearly as cheesy as Fortunes "boo hoo hoo, why can't I die?" and The Boss just going on and on and on about uniting the world.

 

[Local Degenerate]

Starcraft and Warcraft have a good engine and are decent RTS. Distinct enough to be different from WH and WH40k. Granted, none of the people working at Blizzard now ever touched it, but still...

And HOTS had a lot going on for it at the beginning. Then they dumbed it down.

Keep in mind, I said simple, not bad. Old school Mario's simple, but I don't know anyone who'd call it bad.

I'm not really a fan of RTS' so I can't speak on if they're good or bad. Love them conceptually, I'm just too much of a retard to do much besides zerg rush and the occasional pincer.

 

[Local Degenerate]

You do know those big fat bomb defusal suits are also an actual thing? Doesn't mean the Fatman fight wasn't silly either.

Am I really needing to tell this autistic nigger that it's not the EOD suit that makes Fatman stupid?

I worked very closely with EOD for about a year, and not a one of those fuckers had rollerblades, I checked.

 

[byuu]

Am I really needing to tell this autistic nigger that it's not the EOD suit that makes Fatman stupid?

I worked very closely with EOD for about a year, and not a one of those fuckers had rollerblades, I checked.

Nigger, can you not read? "Doesn't mean the Fatman fight wasn't silly either."
I only mentioned it to show you how retarded your "shamans are a thing you know" argument is.

I worked very closely with the Inuit Bird-Watching Association for about a year, and not a one of those fuckers had pet ravens that paralyze people.

 

[The Ugly One]

"Can love blossom on the battlefield?"

Additionally, the whole premise of MGS1, that a mech with a railgun arm that can launch a small nuclear warhead is some kind of unstoppable superweapon, was incredibly absurd. What is it even supposed to be deployed from? And of course, the whole clone-trooper-whatever spaghetti plot was pure anime-style wankery. Granted, the series got even goofier after that, but the foundation was there from the beginning. It's not like it was a Tom Clancy game, or had any potential to become one after MGS1.

 

[Berserk Fury]

MGS1 was cheesy as hell.

MGS3 is the biggest offender in the series.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

I worked very closely with the Inuit Bird-Watching Association for about a year, and not a one of those fuckers had pet ravens that paralyze people.

It was a tattoo, not a pet, you fucking retard

I'm also starting to think we all have a different definition of "cheesy". Every one of them was cheesy because Kojima is a goofy mother fucker

But the further along the series went the dumber and dumber the characters and setting became in order for Kojima to do whatever he wanted to do while being chained to the franchise.

 

[byuu]

It was a tattoo, not a pet, you fucking retard

Just because it's a magic raven that materializes out of a tattoo doesn't mean it can't be a good boy.
Don't petshame.

 

[Matt Damon]

I swear to God you autists are making a concerted effort to misunderstand and mischaracterize @Wesker 's pretty clearly written post.

Yes, MGS1 had goofy and supernatural elements, but the degree to which they're used (as well as how they're presented) is absolutely crucial to the overall tone of the game. Star Wars had quite a number of comedic elements, but no sane person would claim that makes it basically the same as Spaceballs.

 

[byuu]

but the degree to which they're used (as well as how they're presented

And it's used to a very heavy degree in MGS1 already.
I don't understand why that is so hard to accept and you niggers pretend that the game was basically Splinter Cell.

 

[Pig Boss]

And it's used to a very heavy degree in MGS1 already.
I don't understand why that is so hard to accept and you niggers pretend that the game was basically Splinter Cell.

I think of it more like F.E.A.R, there's a strong military feel but there's some weird supernatural stuff bubbling under the surface. The normal, average person in the MGS universe doesn't know anything about it but if you know the right people or you've seen some combat you might have seen... something.

 

[anustart76]

SUPERHOT

• Cool storyline concept
• Very interesting gameplay loop
• Stylistic as fuck in all the right ways
• Just not fun. I'm a man who loves both puzzles and shooters, and it just didn't work for me, and that's super frustrating because it was really popular and well liked.

I think the VR version was really the ideal version of that game. It works well as a VR game because it's a different sort of experience there.

THIS^^^^^ Seriously, the amount of braindead retards that accept shit writing and story because they're supposed to be "deep" is mind-blowing; anyone remember the shit the Undertale community was up to when that game came out?

Ironically, I find a game or story that plays its cards straight instead of "subverting expectations" to be more surprising these days; everyone is so obsessed with "deconstructing" stuff and making everything so dark and depressing because it's "deeeep maaaaaan" that something with a sense of actual humor comes across as a breath of fresh air... and that in and of itself is a bit sad these days, I think.

It's bizarre how you can basically just get free reign to do anything because you say a story is supposed to be a "deconstruction"... regardless of whether or not the story even deconstructs anything. It's not just video games, either; I've seen books, television shows, and even some particularly shitty fanfics - looking at you, Spyro fandom - that try and come across as these deep deconstructions that subvert expectations, only to end up being nothing more than complete shit at best.

This is why I liked Tales of Arise so much. I mean, think about it, how many games come out these days that give you the classic archetypal story of

Spoiler

mighty hero guy beats the bad guy, saves the hot girl, then they get married and live happily ever after

?

Metal Gear Solid 2 wasn't even that deep or original. Kojima was courting worries that conspiracy theorists had over the illuminatti, internet and digital information for over a decade by that point.

He wasn't any more a prophet than the people who called up on Coast to Coast AM. And the fact that his fanboys consistently focus on the final codec call instead of the amazing interactivity of the envrionment and how well scripted the AI was is the reason you get boring, lifeless games like MGS V and Death Stranding.

Deus Ex was a lot more predictive than MGS2, except maybe the whole "war economy" thing that was more of a thing in MGS4.

 

[byuu]

I think of it more like F.E.A.R, there's a strong military feel but there's some weird supernatural stuff bubbling under the surface. The normal, average person in the MGS universe doesn't know anything about it but if you know the right people or you've seen some combat you might have seen... something.

FEAR didn't have you teaming up with anime nerds that built weak points into the big superweapon so it has character flaws like his favorite anime characters.

If you wanted to do something like a Clancy thriller with a bit of spooky shit you need the tiniest bit of subtlety and restraint that MGS never had.
It's not like Psycho Mantis just had some subtle telepathic powers, where maybe there's some kind of trick or the character imagined it.
He's completely over-the-top floating around hurling shit at you with his mind while turning invisible.

Mind you, this isn't an attack on MGS1. There's nothing wrong with being over-the-top.

 

[Raging Capybara]

Every time I see people saying Pokemon games are getting worse and worse, that's not true. Pokemon games were always terrible.

Pokemon Red/Blue is top 5 worst J-RPGs of all time. Some of the attacks in the game don't even work as intended, and that's not a glitch, the game was implemented that way. The devs just forgot to program most of the game mechanics.

Poke fans should just be lined against a wall and be shot. Some of the most retarded people who have ever wandered this planet.

 

[Matt Damon]

Pokemon Red/Blue is top 5 worst J-RPGs of all time. Some of the attacks in the game don't even work as intended, and that's not a glitch, the game was implemented that way. The devs just forgot to program most of the game mechanics.

These things have to be graded on a curve - if you've got a new franchise where the whole gimmick is the sheer volume of characters, stuff like that is going to slip through the cracks.

If you're developing yet another flagship installment in the most profitable IP in the history of the planet and are still cutting corners to the point that your studio has widely become synonymous with "half-assed", that's much less forgivable.