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Three Major Traits That Might Help Spot an 'Incel': Study​

Researchers have identified three characteristics that might predict a future "incel."

According to a study published this month in The Journal of Sexual Medicine, incels share the traits of depression, paranoia and a fearful attachment style.

Incels, or involuntary celibates, comprise an online subculture of men who feel unable to secure romantic or sexual relationships with women.

"Incel individuals share a general sense of failure, feel outcasted by society and excluded by relationships, and have strong feelings of rage towards their condition and other people, women in particular," Drs. Giacomo Ciocca and Lilybeth Fontanesi told Newsweek.

The Italian researchers studied 777 men through a series of questionnaires, investigating their demographic information, depression and anxiety levels, attachment styles, and paranoia symptoms. They determined that depressive-anxious symptoms, paranoid thinking and a fearful attachment style are pivotal to the development of an incel.

On the other hand, a secure attachment style can protect someone from becoming an incel, they said.

Self-described incels have repeatedly perpetrated mass violence in the United States. This year, a Secret Service report warned that incels pose a growing national threat.

Elliot Rodger, who killed six people at the University of California, Santa Barbara in 2014, left behind a YouTube video raging against women who had rejected him and swearing revenge. He became a hero to misogynistic killers such as Scott Paul Beierle, who likened himself to Rodger before killing two women at a Florida yoga studio in 2018. And in 2020, self-described "anti-feminist" lawyer Roy Den Hollander killed the son of a federal judge. His manifesto said, "Manhood is in serious jeopardy in America."

This month, four University of Idaho students were mysteriously stabbed to death. Although a suspect has not been identified, a forensic psychiatrist told Newsweek the killer could be an incelwho felt rejected by one of the murdered women. Police have said they believe the killings were targeted.

"In our opinion, it is very important to study the psychology and psychopathology of incel males to detect and prevent risk factors for deviant or violent behavior against women," said Ciocca and Fontanesi.

Although their study focused on males, they added that men are not the only individuals at risk of cultivating an incel attitude.

"Our results and the recent literature suggest that incel personality traits may be shared also by young women, defined as 'femcels,' who experience the same feelings of failure, rejection and loneliness," they said.
 
Yes.

I had this mindset for a short time when I was 20. A lot of incel and blackpill rhetoric you see, I was spouting that trash BEFORE "incel" and "blackpill" was in the common parlance. I bought that cow and it left a stink on my life that took a long time to scrub out even after I got shaken by the lapels by the right person and told to fucking get over myself. I would have more empathy if it weren't for the fact that this fucked up "incel" state all comes down to not having self awareness or refusing to utilize it.
Ah, you were a Nice Guy ™️
 
This is interesting to me because my impression was that incels/datelessness primarily had to do with some level of isolation. The majority of relationships, at least among myself and people I know, are between people who spent time together in school, work, or some kind of activity. I know only a handful of people in relationships that arose out of dating apps.

For that reason, I figured incels would primarily be those who had serious mental/physical issues that made dating an extreme uphill battle and those who had a limited pool of people to interact with due to where they lived or their lifestyle.

I would be interested to hear what has been the main problem in your experience.
I've got a similar experience to share. Not an incel, but I was a late bloomer into my young adult years and sympathized with some of the ideology back then. The tldr is that I had no idea how to interact with women + some extreme self esteem issues. The later was further antagonized by the former.

I put most of the blame on not understanding women though. I didn't have a father figure growing up, no one ever really sat me down and explained how women work (not in the physical sense, but the mental). I grew up being fed the nice guy shit, that you just need to be friendly and women will want to date you. That obviously didn't work and led to heart ache and self loathing, I assumed there was something wrong with me and that just made everything worse. Eventually I just stopped trying.

What got me out of the hole eventually was that I encountered a turning point in my life and just stopped caring what other's thought. Completely stopped caring about women and just focused on living the best life I could, started working out, dressing better, all that shit. My first girlfriend actually approached me, as impossible as that would have seemed to my younger self.

Looking back at my experience, it really just boils down to many young men not having any sort of guidance + growing up in a world where they constantly told how evil they are. Not only do they not have a positive guiding force that will make them into good men, but they have an entire societies worth of propaganda telling them to suppress the parts of themselves that would make them attractive to women. So to some extent I agree with your point about isolation, although for a lot of incels like my younger self it is a self imposed isolation born from learned defeatism.
 
We are all doing sexual calculus. Acting like men are some how vile for comparing women or trying to find their place in the pecking order is the most hypocritical shit. You act like we don't have ears. You act as if women don't imagine what kind of lifestyle they could live the second they see a nice suit or get picked up in a new car. These are just facts of life.
I've seen it happen in real life, too. The hatred for the numbers "system" is a meme.

A very stupid, very nonsensical, very hypocritical meme.

Women even have their own number scheme-- in fact, they have several.

One is a >= 6, another is 6 <= h <= 6.5, yet another one is p >= 6, and the last one is m >= 100000.

Ah, you were a Nice Guy
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I keep telling you all about the simp to incel to troon pipeline.

Incels are just simps burnt black.
 
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