US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

For the benefit of those not familiar with the terminology, "stochastic" means randomly distributed/generated. It's basically noise rather than signal. "Stochastic resonance" is the addition of a noise signal to a weak waveform whose peaks are below the threshold for detection to cause the combined signal to cross the threshold in a manner that approximates the original waveform. The connection to speech as noise and the waveform as violence is tenuous to say the least.

So "stochastic terrorism from the right" is when the amount of terrorism from the right is so low it's undectable, so the Feds and the Left have to commit terrorist acts in their name in order to cause enough domestic terrorist acts to register?

 

[Breadbassket]

So "stochastic terrorism from the right" is when the amount of terrorism from the right is so low it's undectable, so the Feds and the Left have to commit terrorist acts in their name in order to cause enough domestic terrorist acts to register?

To me it just seems like a term used in a roundabout way to accuse people of thought crimes.

 

[Ita Mori]

There is a reason why every pro free speech forum that exists lean towards the libertarian/conservative.

I'd say they lean lolbert/liberal.
No, not the contemporary neoliberal; the John Locke liberals who actually stood for the individual, freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, and the right to personal property.

Speaking of Locke, my blood pressure rises and makes me lose a year of life every time some nulefty says the influence Locke had on our founding fathers was nothing to what Thomas Paine had. Fuck Paine and double fuck Brown.

 

[Psyduck]

Gonna have to bust out these old favorites again:
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Lets be real here nigguh

As much as they love to lay the blame on whitey, the majority black population is far, far from being sharp dressed in suits confidently claiming "im not oppressed"

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Lets be real here nigguh

As much as they love to lay the blame on whitey, the majority black population is far, far from being sharp dressed in suits confidently claiming "im not oppressed"

Yeah, true, but the white people who shout down the ones that do as "COONS" and "RACE TRAITORS" and "UNCLE TOMS" don't help either.

 

[Meat Target]

DeSantis on the other hand more resembles a moderate who would be better received by Neoconservatives, Reaganites and "Never Trumpers".

Counterpoint: DeSantis hasn't had Thanksgiving dinner with guntguarding catboy enthusiasts (to my knowledge). Trump's schmoozing with so many lolcow faggots is making me uncomfortable.

 

[Coptakhenaten]

I don't trust DeSantis at all but he seems to have his head screwed on straight and a better sense of judgement. He's following MAGA for power and politics, yes, but he is also tact and knows he would lose his base if he crosses the line too far. Trump is self sabotaging bad, and it's irritating because he's the leader of the MAGA movement and he is putting it at risk. It wouldn't be an issue if it wasn't for the fact that he's giving fuel to the democrats to jeopardize not just him, but his movement. It's one thing if he's being targeted, but this is going to hurt grassroots operations on the state level because Democrats will more fascistically scour local organization.

 

[Breadbassket]

Counterpoint: DeSantis hasn't had Thanksgiving dinner with guntguarding catboy enthusiasts (to my knowledge). Trump's schmoozing with so many lolcow faggots is making me uncomfortable.

The critical flaws of Trump are the double edged sword of saying whatever without seemingly being vetted prior, an overabundance of narcissism and a tendency to be a bad judge of character when it comes to picking people to help him. With all that said he is the symbolic flagbearer of American right-wing populism currently for the most part. Him potentially running and winning in 2024 could bring a term of change to United States politics.

I don't know enough about DeSantis's personality to make a profile on him, other then that apparently he doesn't want to meet with donors?




He seems to be more calculating and intelligent in the arena that is politics but at the same time his greater goals seem somewhat mysterious at least to me. Its one thing to be distant from Republicans you may disagree with, its another to not really communicate with people who can potentially finance your presidential ambitions. While I don't really dislike him as a potential president, I am at best currently skeptical due to his previous political decisions. Simply put it appears Trump talks too much, DeSantis talks too little.

 

[CapricornusRex]

Counterpoint: DeSantis hasn't had Thanksgiving dinner with guntguarding catboy enthusiasts (to my knowledge). Trump's schmoozing with so many lolcow faggots is making me uncomfortable.

The fuck is wrong with you? He had dinner with Kanye, someone he's known for years, and the dude brought freak boy Fuentes with him unannounced to try and get Trump to be his VP. How is that schmoozing? If you're going to dickride DeSantis, at least do it without making shit up to make yourself feel better about it.

 

[Potatoherder]

The fuck is wrong with you? He had dinner with Kanye, someone he's known for years, and the dude brought freak boy Fuentes with him unannounced to try and get Trump to be his VP. How is that schmoozing? If you're going to dickride DeSantis, at least do it without making shit up to make yourself feel better about it.

I will say he should have known something was up when Milo the glowie was involved. But i also like how Trump is open which this shit as opposed to DeSantis who is very cloak and dagger. He very much has a public and private face whereas Trump only has one.

 

[CapricornusRex]

I will say he should have known something was up when Milo the glowie was involved. But i also like how Trump is open which this shit as opposed to DeSantis who is very cloak and dagger. He very much has a public and private face whereas Trump only has one.

Wasn't the dinner between Trump and Kanye planned back in September but it got postponed? Did Milo work for Kanye in September?

 

[Potatoherder]

Wasn't the dinner between Trump and Kanye planned back in September but it got postponed? Did Milo work for Kanye in September?

He announced his run on the 21th of November and that was the first i heard anything about him knowing Milo even existed. I assume Candace Owens was involved as she conned Kanye into buying Parler until he went full 'i love hitler' mode.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

Former president Donald Trump drew sharp condemnation on Sunday after he called for the “termination” of parts of the US constitution in order to overturn the 2020 election, with a top Democrat calling him a “danger to our democracy”.

“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” wrote Mr Trump, as he repeated his previously debunked claims of electoral fraud. “Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!”

“He’s calling for an end to America’s constitutional democracy,” Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer said. “He’s out of control and a danger to our democracy.”

The comments from the twice impeached president drew bipartisan condemnation, as Republican representative Mike Turner also “vehemently” disagreed with his remarks.

“There is a political process that has to go forward before anybody is a frontrunner or anybody is even the candidate for the party,” he said. “I believe that people certainly are going to take into consideration a statement like this as they evaluate a candidate.”

Key points​

• Jeffries slams Republicans for their continued association with Trump
• Trump a ‘danger to democracy', says Chuck Schumer
• Trump receives bipartisan condemnation, draws flak from Republicans as well

Trump receives bipartisan condemnation, draws flak from Republicans as well​

05:45 , Namita Singh
Republican representative Mike Turner said he “vehemently” disagrees and “absolutely” condemns remarks made by Donald Trump calling for “termination” of parts of the constitution over his unfounded claims that the 2020 election was stolen.
Criticising Mr Trump, he said the comments made by the former head of state should be a factor when Republicans decide who should lead their party in 2024.
There is a political process that has to go forward before anybody is a frontrunner or anybody is even the candidate for the party,” Mr Turner said.
“I believe that people certainly are going to take into consideration a statement like this as they evaluate a candidate.”

Trump a ‘danger to democracy’, says Chuck Schumer​

05:00 , Namita Singh
Slamming Donald Trump for his disregard for rules “found in the constitution” Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer labelled him a “danger” to American democracy.
“He’s calling for an end to America’s constitutional democracy,” said Mr Schumer. “He’s out of control and a danger to our democracy.”

Jeffries slams Republicans for their continued association with Trump​

04:14 , Namita Singh
Former president Donald Trump faced rebuke after he called for the “termination” of parts of the constitution over his unfounded claims that the 2020 election was stolen.

Mr Trump, who announced last month that he is running again for president, made the claim over the weekend on his Truth Social media platform.

 

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He announced his run on the 21th of November and that was the first i heard anything about him knowing Milo even existed. I assume Candace Owens was involved as she conned Kanye into buying Parler until he went full 'i love hitler' mode.

Speaking of which, man, she got reaaaaal fucking quiet these past few days, didn't she?

 

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The critical flaws of Trump are the double edged sword of saying whatever without seemingly being vetted prior, an overabundance of narcissism and a tendency to be a bad judge of character when it comes to picking people to help him. With all that said he is the symbolic flagbearer of American right-wing populism currently for the most part. Him potentially running and winning in 2024 could bring a term of change to United States politics.

I don't know enough about DeSantis's personality to make a profile on him, other then that apparently he doesn't want to meet with donors?

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He seems to be more calculating and intelligent in the arena that is politics but at the same time his greater goals seem somewhat mysterious at least to me. Its one thing to be distant from Republicans you may disagree with, its another to not really communicate with people who can potentially finance your presidential ambitions. While I don't really dislike him as a potential president, I am at best currently skeptical due to his previous political decisions. Simply put it appears Trump talks too much, DeSantis talks too little.

Notice how he only came out full backstab AFTER all the MAGA candidates lost. DeSantis thinks MAGA is finished (and it probably is outside of red states since AZ, GA, and PA aren't getting cleaned up anytime soon) and he needs a new source of power so he's making good with the establishment. This is what he did with the scamdemic too--he waited to see if he could feasibly open Florida by looking what South Dakota, then Georgia, Tennessee, and can't remember which other red states did it first and the response their politicians got.

That's not to say he's simply a follower (he ranks among the top for his scamdemic response), but he's concerned most about his own power than what his base wants. Had there been a red wave like predicted, then DeSantis would be cheering on the MAGA movement like before.

 

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Notice how he only came out full backstab AFTER all the MAGA candidates lost. DeSantis thinks MAGA is finished (and it probably is outside of red states since AZ, GA, and PA aren't getting cleaned up anytime soon) and he needs a new source of power so he's making good with the establishment. This is what he did with the scamdemic too--he waited to see if he could feasibly open Florida by looking what South Dakota, then Georgia, Tennessee, and can't remember which other red states did it first and the response their politicians got.

That's not to say he's simply a follower (he ranks among the top for his scamdemic response), but he's concerned most about his own power than what his base wants. Had there been a red wave like predicted, then DeSantis would be cheering on the MAGA movement like before.

So he's McConnell 2.0.

Turtle, meet Gator. Great.

 

[Random Internet Person]

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

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The left/RINOs can't meme, news at 11

 

[Random Internet Person]

The left/RINOs can't meme, news at 11

I however welcome politics devolving into internet bloodsports.

 

[There'll be another time]

I however welcome politics devolving into internet bloodsports.

I eagerly await the 2032 presidential debate into both sides yelling at each other to cope and take the L.