US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Random Internet Person]

I eagerly await the 2032 presidential debate into both sides yelling at each other to cope and take the L.

Wasn’t that first Biden/Trump debate basically…that?

 

[SBG]

I don't trust DeSantis at all but he seems to have his head screwed on straight and a better sense of judgement. He's following MAGA for power and politics, yes, but he is also tact and knows he would lose his base if he crosses the line too far. Trump is self sabotaging bad, and it's irritating because he's the leader of the MAGA movement and he is putting it at risk. It wouldn't be an issue if it wasn't for the fact that he's giving fuel to the democrats to jeopardize not just him, but his movement. It's one thing if he's being targeted, but this is going to hurt grassroots operations on the state level because Democrats will more fascistically scour local organization.

How?

How has Trump self sabotaged? Or how has DeSantis accomplished something?

The main thing DeSantis has accomplished is raising money by being the main milquetoast neocon wanting to run for president. Which involved appealing to a bunch off rich assholes behind the scenes rather than voters.

 

[Meat Target]

The fuck is wrong with you? He had dinner with Kanye, someone he's known for years, and the dude brought freak boy Fuentes with him unannounced to try and get Trump to be his VP. How is that schmoozing?

I'm not seeing any proposals from Trump about how to fix election fraud, or anything on the issues themselves.

Yes, the Dems cheated in both 2020 and this year. We've established that. What does Trump propose we do about it?

I have seen nothing from him but whining. Meanwhile, DeSantis made Florida into the new Texas. Hell, cuckservative dweebs like Greg Abbott and Brian Kemp have done more to unfuck their states' electoral systems!

If you're going to dickride DeSantis, at least do it without making shit up to make yourself feel better about it.

At least MTG was smart enough to disavow Neko Nicky when she found out who he is. Like it or not, optics absolutely matter. Lie down with faggots, get AIDS.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

I however welcome politics devolving into internet bloodsports.

It always has been, just with better PR people.

 

[Potatoherder]

I have seen nothing from him but whining. Meanwhile, DeSantis made Florida into the new Texas. Hell, cuckservative dweebs like Greg Abbott and Brian Kemp have done more to unfuck their states' electoral systems!

He has no power to make changes aside from trying to get people elected. And he did that even with all the GOP fuckery.

At least MTG was smart enough to disavow Neko Nicky when she found out who he is. Like it or not, optics absolutely matter. Lie down with faggots, get AIDS.

They have already said he is Hitler. They rigged elections to stop him from getting reelected. Have you forgotten how these people work? Anything but refusal to play their games is a full admission of guilt in their eyes.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Holy Shit, DeSantis turned out to be a uniparty plant?

Some of you mongs need to apologize for all the bad stickies that were given to us for a year and a half.

 

[mandatorylurk]

I'd love to know if GA has actually cleaned up their voting, because it seems like Atlanta can still just count ballots until the end of the week and Kemp and Raffensperger just shrug and say it's Trump's fault.

 

[The Big O]

I'd love to know if GA has actually cleaned up their voting, because it seems like Atlanta can still just count ballots until the end of the week and Kemp and Raffensperger just shrug and say it's Trump's fault.

Your guess is as good as mine. Kemp and Raffensperger did jack shit to help stop the steal in 2020, but Kemp handily whupped Stacey Abrams this year in the gubernatorial after Abrams raised so many legalese complaints about the state implementing stronger Voter ID rules. The Warnock/Walker runoff could very well go in either direction.

 

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It's classic leftist version of using a meme but removing the fun things from it while also filling it with their own imagined superiority

 

[Meat Target]

They have already said he is Hitler. They rigged elections to stop him from getting reelected. Have you forgotten how these people work? Anything but refusal to play their games is a full admission of guilt in their eyes.

You also don't have to pal around with lolcows to defy them. Trump is tripping over his own mushroom dick and making himself less electable.

Archive this post and I'll eat crow in thr future if I end up wrong. But Trump is making a series of unforced fuckups at this juncture. I'll vote for him if he wins the nomination, but he needs to quit being daft.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I'm not seeing any proposals from Trump about how to fix election fraud, or anything on the issues themselves.

Yes, the Dems cheated in both 2020 and this year. We've established that. What does Trump propose we do about it?

Suspend portions of the Constitution apparently according to his latest rant. 2024 is looking pretty bad when it's an increasingly senile Trump coming off the 2022 defeat, uniparty DeSantis, and random establishment goons like Pence.

He has no power to make changes aside from trying to get people elected. And he did that even with all the GOP fuckery.

In the competitive elections, Kent, Mastriano, Lake, Masters, and other good candidates he backed lost. Who actually won a remotely competitive race that was any decent, JD Vance maybe (and he probably won since Ohio has sane voting laws unlike AZ)? Most of the other MAGA candidates weren't in competitive races, or their competitive race was the primary.

 

[tehpope]

 

[Meat Target]

Suspend portions of the Constitution apparently according to his latest rant. 2024 is looking pretty bad when it's an increasingly senile Trump coming off the 2022 defeat

Precisely. Statements like that will make you as electable as childhood leukemia.

DeSantis is 30 years younger, doesn't have Trump's baggage, and hides his powerlevel.

The RINOs are lining up to brown-nose him because they can see which way the wind is blowing. MAGA isn't done, but Trump is. He's become the conservative Hillary Clinton.

From DeSantis, I have seen a string of policy victories. From Trump, I see a giant goatfuck of grifters, glowies, and gaywads.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Is Trump just supposed to take it and say nothing, that it's even more evident they rigged the election against him? Trump's said worse and this will be gone in another week. That the man's not allowed to be angry about this shit is the most RINO thing and people are feigning more anger about this tweet than Biden saying "we're gonna blow up Nordstream" and then wow, Nordstream gets blown up. One is a guy lashing out in justified tard rage, the other is a pedo deliberately trying to get a war going.

 

[Meat Target]

Is Trump just supposed to take it and say nothing, that it's even more evident they rigged the election against him? Trump's said worse and this will be gone in another week. That the man's not allowed to be angry about this shit is the most RINO thing and people are feigning more anger about this tweet than Biden saying "we're gonna blow up Nordstream" and then wow, Nordstream gets blown up. One is a guy lashing out in justified tard rage, the other is a pedo deliberately trying to get a war going.

He needs to be advocating for concrete electioneering reforms that will prevent another 2020, not endlessly bitching about how unfair it all is. Complaining without proposing a solution is called whining.

 

[ShitLurker]

Your guess is as good as mine. Kemp and Raffensperger did jack shit to help stop the steal in 2020, but Kemp handily whupped Stacey Abrams this year in the gubernatorial after Abrams raised so many legalese complaints about the state implementing stronger Voter ID rules. The Warnock/Walker runoff could very well go in either direction.

Kemp winning has a lot more to do with a certain sheboon getting too uppity methinks. Also, Kemp is a uniparty stooge that will vote whatever the fuck the turtle tells him to and that will look wherever the finger tells him to. He is no risk or problem to allow to win.

In the competitive elections, Kent, Mastriano, Lake, Masters, and other good candidates he backed lost. Who actually won a remotely competitive race that was any decent, JD Vance maybe (and he probably won since Ohio has sane voting laws unlike AZ)? Most of the other MAGA candidates weren't in competitive races, or their competitive race was the primary.

Mmm, so the candidates that Trump supported and for the most part got fucked by Mitch the Bitch removing funding and that had to deal with "week long vote counting sessions" lost while the the more standard gop faggots won.... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I think I need my thinking cap to sus out why that may have happened there!

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

DeSantis is 30 years younger, doesn't have Trump's baggage, and hides his powerlevel.

Please tell me you're trolling. Hiding their powerlevel is exactly what tons of RINOs have done before stabbing their constituents in the back. Trump, for all of his faults, is at the very least transparent (yeah, yeah, double edged sword but look at Brandon and tell me which of the two approaches you prefer), and tried to keep to his promises (hell, he even made good on some of them). DeSantis hasn't even announced if he's running for 2024 yet, and he already walked back the Disney ultimatum. I'm not completely writing him off as a RINO just yet, but if you can't see the clear warning signs right in front of you, then I don't know what to tell you.

 

[ShitLurker]

He needs to be advocating for concrete electioneering reforms that will prevent another 2020, not endlessly bitching about how unfair it all is. Complaining without proposing a solution is called whining.

OK, how? "We need more fair judges" fuck you, you can't nominate them and the ones you did were suggested by Mitch and did fucking nothing. "We need government representatives that will seriously safeguard the sanctity of our democratic process" Kari being the most obvious case got the elections stolen from her precisely to avoid this. "We need to add a punitive process for when election irregularities and practices are suspected/detected", ok, what fucking house and senate will vote those though?

Also, how would golden boy Santis save the day here at a national level?

Call it whining all you want but realistically what else can he do outside of making a stink out of it? They already stole an election from him, fuck all was done and achieved and it happened again to his candidates this year. What now then? The only real way to safeguard this shit is from the ground up, but that got cockblocked.

 

[The Last Stand]

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For once, there's a point about democracy in danger with that.

 

[Meat Target]

Also, how would golden boy Santis save the day here at a national level?

Call it whining all you want but realistically what else can he do outside of making a stink out of it? They already stole an election from him, fuck all was done and achieved and it happened again to his candidates this year. What now then? The only real way to safeguard this shit is from the ground up, but that got cockblocked.

Call for these, for starters:

• voter ID in all 50 states
• Ban on ballot harvesting and mail-in ballots for those who don't have a good reason
• Closed primaries
• Allow voter rolls to be purged of deceased or moved-away voters
• A hard deadline on ballot counting (preferably the stroke of midnight once Election Day ends)
• More scrutiny for notoriously shady election officials (such as that one lady from Broward County)
• More transparency in vote counting and poll watching