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"Trump shouldn't complain unless he offers a better solution" say people complaining about Trump but failing to offer a better alternative.
I don't know what you think you're saying, you literally included the alternative. The alternative is to capitalize as much as possible, instead of shitting around doing next to nothing.

If Trump tried to ban mail in voting he'd be impeached and the same people saying why didn't he do it would be upset that he attempted such a thing because muh democracy, this is the same bullshit people like Thernovich bitch about Trump with not pardoning the 1/6 people before leaving because if he did Mitch the Bitch would get 30 republicans to convict. He'd get impeached if he fired Fauci too, lil' Ben Shapiro would say how it's unconscionable he did such a thing we should copy how great Israel was doing stuff (see how quickly he shut up about Israel's handling of Chyna virus and vaccines since the clot shots did nothing?)

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This literally sounds like incel logic. "Bro if I even say hi to a girl she'll call the cops and I'll go to prison for false rape accusations! It's not my fault, the situation is just so hopeless I better not try anything don't you get it?!?"
 
From DeSantis, I have seen a string of policy victories.
List them.

I agree with you that MAGA shouldn't be about Trump, but at the same time thinking that DeSantis is the future? lmfao I expected better from a lot of you than to fall for the same shit the Democrats did with Obama.

Edit: MAGA feels truly dead at this point. Might as well start saying MALGA cause it seems everyone went back to caring about "the optics".
 
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This literally sounds like incel logic. "Bro if I even say hi to a girl she'll call the cops and I'll go to prison for false rape accusations! It's not my fault, the situation is just so hopeless I better not try anything don't you get it?!?"
They impeached him over a phone call, you think they wouldn't do it again over something more important in 2020 while they were still banging on about him being a dictator, on top of the Chyna Virus bullshit? And we didn't know the full extent of the fortification until they gloated about it in December and January and the courts would just be faggots for the whole thing.

Now we know how much was rigged against him and how much the GOP hated him so he probably should have just been balls to the wall, but I'm not gonna pretend we all knew how fucked up it was before Nov. 2020.
 
List them.
  • Cleaning up elections (see Broward and Miami-Dade).
  • Fixed Florida's Dem-favored gerrymandering (which IIRC, previously had both Tallahassee and Jacksonville in the same district).
  • Protecting kids from the Rainbow Mafia and race baiters.
  • Allowing motorists to run over psychos surrounding their cars to escape.
  • Telling the Federal election inquisitors to fuck off.
  • Divesting from BlackRock.
  • Made Florida into the new Texas, giving R's a supermajority in the state legislature.
 
I'm not seeing any proposals from Trump about how to fix election fraud, or anything on the issues themselves.

Yes, the Dems cheated in both 2020 and this year. We've established that. What does Trump propose we do about it?

I have seen nothing from him but whining. Meanwhile, DeSantis made Florida into the new Texas. Hell, cuckservative dweebs like Greg Abbott and Brian Kemp have done more to unfuck their states' electoral systems!

At least MTG was smart enough to disavow Neko Nicky when she found out who he is. Like it or not, optics absolutely matter. Lie down with faggots, get AIDS.

Precisely. Statements like that will make you as electable as childhood leukemia.

DeSantis is 30 years younger, doesn't have Trump's baggage, and hides his powerlevel.

The RINOs are lining up to brown-nose him because they can see which way the wind is blowing. MAGA isn't done, but Trump is. He's become the conservative Hillary Clinton.

From DeSantis, I have seen a string of policy victories. From Trump, I see a giant goatfuck of grifters, glowies, and gaywads.
Except from what we've seen with the Disney shit, his "victories" seem to be hollow and only propped up so that Uniparty folk can push him as Diet Trump. The left will still keep up the same lines of attack but it's fairly obvious they'd rather have DeSantis with mostly bark and little bite vs someone like Trump who does not give a fuck who he offends.
Trump has a lot of issues. He is overly crass, not very strategic at all, and only has a layman's understanding of how things work despite being part of the 1% club.
But I will take an honest idiot over a dishonest genius any day of the week. MAGA isn't about a cult of personality around Trump, you're right. But the reality is that if the very best we can do is to get some compromise Uniparty candidate who only plays middle of the aisle long enough to get us uppity commoners to quiet down, we have not won anything but a delay till we're dropped in the pot. Quite frankly and fedposting aside it would be better to watch the whole fucking system collapse and rebuild than that would be. We have discovered more and more recently that the entire American promise we have been fed for fucking decades was ever only an illusion. The Bush family, the Clintons, Obama, Biden, they've all been steering us toward the same place, and when shit hit the fan and obvious fraud and corruption have come to light, we've found that every one of the sacred hallowed institutions we supposedly had to fall back on, have been compromised. What's worse is that a rotting division has been wedged between halves of the country to bring us back to a national level of discord unlike anything since the civil war. Hell this might be even worse than the civil war sentiments by sheer virtue of the, ahem, "heterogeneity" of the population compared to then. At least then it was mostly Americans vs Americans. Now we have been infiltrated to the extent that our enemies in China feel comfortable putting police monitoring stations within our borders. This level of division can't be put back in the bottle and there is not going to be reconciliation when half the country thinks the other half is comprised of literal Nazis because we want things like strong border security and don't want to let tranny pedophiles groom our children.

I honestly don't have an answer for how we get out of this mess that wouldn't count as glow posting, and no matter what happens it's going to be ugly as shit. With all that in consideration, having Trump the loud mouthed retard who at least wants things to be set right seems much better than having a Republican who'd be equally likely to call in the troops on us civilians as Obama or any Dem.
 
That, and actual White Nationalists are proud to be White Nationalists, and wouldn't hide their identities.

Yeah, you can argue that the reason they cover their faces is because they're a terrorist organization (like ANTIFA), but have they ever actually orchestrated, or pulled off a terroristic act?
The neck gater masks are more due to the fact that in the last 6-7 years, it's been well established that if you protest against the Anti-Life Death Kult with your face visible, the left will circulate your pictures online until they identify you and then DESTROY. YOUR. LIFE.

Get you banned from social media, get you fired from your job, get you blackballed from local businesses/unable to find a new job, target your wife and kids for the same, and if they feel froggy, get you banned from all major credit card and banking institutes.

While I can see why some people think Patriot Front is a glowie operation and that the members are Chad types in the FBI who drew the short straw and have to cosplay as far right "terrorists" to bait random people to do bad shit while hooded on the weekend, it also does a disservice to critics of the left that you basically CAN'T be goodlooking and be a far right protester let alone the notion that ANY far right group that has standards for membership and which has any sort of organization to it, has to be a glow in the dark trap.
 
I'm getting "wait why isn't Trump genociding blacks and mexicans like I heard he was going to" vibes

Exactly what did anybody think had happened or was going to happen regarding Reedy Creek?
This was always more of a sharp pull on the choke chain, rather than putting the dog down.
The old RCID is dead and it will require an amendment to the state construction to make what it was.
The reasonable outcome was that there's a negotiation for a new deal, more in line with more recent special districts like The Villages.
afaik there were no plans to Eminent Domain the Magic Kingdom and retheme the boat ride to "you will never be a woman after all"

Def interested in hearing Sabatini go off more though
 
Call for these, for starters:
  • voter ID in all 50 states
  • Ban on ballot harvesting and mail-in ballots for those who don't have a good reason
  • Closed primaries
  • Allow voter rolls to be purged of deceased or moved-away voters
  • A hard deadline on ballot counting (preferably the stroke of midnight once Election Day ends)
  • More scrutiny for notoriously shady election officials (such as that one lady from Broward County)
  • More transparency in vote counting and poll watching
Might be that I consider most of this common fucking sense, I do agree Trump should say this outloud in a very specific manner but I'd dare say a number of his candidates have been saying this shit as well for ages and whoa oops they lost, wonder why. They aren't new political topics either, so stop acting that Trump slamming that drum will suddenly give people an epiphany. Trying to get the GOP to do fucking anything by bitching at them does nothing and seeing how elections mean less each day and they want to get rid of him, they only have more of a reason to do jack and shit.

As long as the RINOs are in place it's IMPOSSIBLE to get any sort of proper traction going. Also, how many of these points has Desantis hammered on? Last I checked he barely said anything about an expresident getting raided by the fbi and absolute silence on the current races.

Which brings me to how people always seem to expect to fucking moon from Trump but about anybody else people are certainly a lot less demanding.
A&N looks upon you in a better light than they do to me. But, I digress.


"Fellow MAGA allies?" Fuck that shit, I just want societal normalcy back in America. That sounds so similar to how the progressive Left views their "allies."

Sounds like some Uncle Tom nonsense. Screw being an individual with opinions, right?
The only normalcy you will get is maybe a few years where they dial down on the tranny shit when Santis is allowed the presidency (and they will screech constantly about how evil he is for those 4 years) then it will go full steam ahead since "respectable national populism didn't save the world in a single mandate, clearly it should be discarded" to see this playbook in action just look at any south american shit hole since the US is already that.
I’ll take all the trash cans, puzzle pieces, and top hats and say MAGA is over. Like the tea party before it, MAGA is ultimately a transition step to something better. We see hints of it from JD Vance and Ron DeSantis: nationalist populism sans personality cults and stupidity. When the rust belt and upper midwest voted for Trump in 2016, it was two things: immigration and trade. The fact that it was a shit talking Noo Yawker didn’t matter, just mentioning that we’re getting fucked on immigration and trade was enough to get millions of working class whites in those areas to consider voting for a guy with no political experience whatsoever.

I encourage Trump to keep running because getting the Gay Old Perverts to crash and burn is only going to be a good thing. There’s a certain facade of legitimacy that goes away when it’s effectively a one party state. An outer party that never pushes back can look like muh democracy but there will be a crisis of legitimacy and stability if the facade drops and now everyone gets to see that there’s no real choice that can be voted out of. The rickety and rotten system will struggle and all it takes is refusing to vote for cuckservatives.
If MAGA is dead and the next step is Desantis on the long march to sanity than I'm sorry to say you will be choking on trannycrow cock on a few yearz. If you don't see that Desantis is just the release valve to finish smothering the movement, I don't have much else to say. And this isn't me smugposting and I rather you be right and Desantis isn't as queer as 3 dollar bill, but I've been burned too many times from "based gop polititians that seemed to have found their balls" to believe that the guy they are pushing is honest on not just the best at working the crowd.

I've said other times... who the fuck can follow up Trump? He's not ideal but it's all you have, or do you think the swamp will let this shit happen again? If it ever does it will be in a much more explosive context, and when things get explosive, you never know where the debris are landing.

As for those thinking it's just another election bro, I don't think I speak out of place when I say nobpdy expected this level of totalitarism 10-15 years ago, yet pretty much all western nations are going full steam ahead. You can call the inbreed pirates and the leafs faggits all day, but the US ain't that far off anymore.

So yeah, maybe Trump is done and MAGA is dead (though I still think that's astroturfed), but I rather he makes a fucking stink out of it instead of being a gigantic cuck like Nixon who vanished into the night when Kennedy stole the election from him. What did that fucking achieve? Huh? It's just a little bit of trivia at this point that is irrelevant.
 
MAGA feels truly dead at this point. Might as well start saying MALGA cause it seems everyone went back to caring about "the optics".
It will die even more ignominiously if Trump keeps giving his ear to retards.

Maybe I am wrong to think DeSantis is the heir. I've been wrong before. But Trump is sabotaging his re-election chances. Continuing to pal around with Kanye and Catboy is guaranteed suicide.

The notion that "Trump can do no wrong because the Uniparty fears him" is how you get Dr. Oz for Senate.
 
Continuing to pal around with Kanye and Catboy is guaranteed suicide.
Continuing to pal around? He had one dinner with Kanye that was set up months ago and Catboy just showed up and Trump was basically like "I don't know who the fuck that guy is."

If *that* is the make or break for you...

Edit: The notion that optics matter is how you get Fetterman elected to Senate.
 
Continuing to pal around? He had one dinner with Kanye that was set up months ago and Catboy just showed up and Trump was basically like "I don't know who the fuck that guy is."

If *that* is the make or break for you...
I mean that Trump needs to cut ties with both and publicly disavow them. That point of contact WILL drag him down. Not because it hurts shitlibs' feefees, but because it won't sit well with the voter base.
 
This literally sounds like incel logic. "Bro if I even say hi to a girl she'll call the cops and I'll go to prison for false rape accusations! It's not my fault, the situation is just so hopeless I better not try anything don't you get it?!?"
They impeached him over a phone call while pinning Joe Biden's dirt on him as charges lol.
 
Edit: The notion that optics matter is how you get Fetterman elected to Senate.
Okay then. Trump should just wipe his ass with a baby in public, since "optics don't matter". Right-wingers should only run unelectable pants-shitting retards, as long as they name the Jew, because "fuck your optics".
 
I mean that Trump needs to cut ties with both and publicly disavow them. That point of contact WILL drag him down. Not because it hurts shitlibs' feefees, but because it won't sit well with the voter base.
Most voters don't know anything about that. Maybe in more GOP dominated areas, but those kind of voters are few and really a blight on any group as it is. They aren't much different from liberals.
I'm not even sure if anyone actually gives a shit about Trump meeting with Fuentes out in the real world. Minds are already made up and sending in a hispanic catboi Nazi and a homosexual Greek was a strange way to smear him.

This exactly. The current political thing is basically contrarian sides already set in stone.
Okay then. Trump should just wipe his ass with a baby in public, since "optics don't matter". Right-wingers should only run pants-shitting retards as long as they name the Jew, because "fuck your optics".
I think you're confusing optics (fake presentations to impress) with not being a psychotic retard. Optics is why politics is such a shit show in the first place and why everything is so fake and gay. All Trump has to do is just say "I won't let guilt by association run my political career, does the GOP/etc. want me to become like the left." And he will easily cover his optics game to anyone with a few braincells who remembers anything about the left.
 
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