Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

Re: all that shiny talk
I used to find shiny pokémon cool
then after finding out how autistic people on the Internet are about hunting for them, I started feeling indifferent towards them
after checking out VGC out of curiosity and to find out what high level competitive looks like, I got appalled by shinies

the issue here is the animations caused by the shiny sparkles and the fact that the ingame timer is fucking retarded
it is a competitive advantage to have as many shinies as possible to waste as much time as possible with those sparkles
as if raising a normal competitive team without injection or other cheats wasn't autistically tedious enough, you get a tangible advantage by using as many shiny pokemon as possible
 
Eeyup. People apparently modded quite a bit of Sword and Shield and plenty of Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl. They are in the process of Scarlet and Violet.

I would rather do a demake this way, though:
I think I can work my way around the Pokecrystal decompilation...
I was hoping for total conversions. :(

Wish there was an official way to have that "faster battles" one for practically every game, though.
 
Putting down a sort of reduced Pokédex, I remembered @Kari Kamiya's comment here:

I am not doing anything concrete with my idea yet, but my new Paldean Pokédex would have an Cient Alakazam and an Cient Gengar.
However, that would mean tha the number of Ancient and Future Pokémon would be unbalanced.
What would make good Future Pokémon? I prefer those that are the last stages of 3-stage evolutions.
future clefairy would be pretty sick. golurk would also be a really good fit, maybe sigilyph too
 
Did nobody pick Quaxly? Can't find any on the starter link code trades, is all cat and croc.

Hmu with a PM if you have a spare Quaxly, I can trade you one of my shinies or something else you want. This bloody duck is grinding my gears!
 
Did nobody pick Quaxly? Can't find any on the starter link code trades, is all cat and croc.

Hmu with a PM if you have a spare Quaxly, I can trade you one of my shinies or something else you want. This bloody duck is grinding my gears!
Whitepill for the day. Even people who are retarded enough to buy and play the new games have high enough standards to reject the diverse and inclusive abomination that is Quaquaval
 
I will say I like the things they've done to make wild shinies more usable though, because it felt bad catching one in the wild to realize the IVs and Nature were shit.
The hardest usable shiny Pokemon to get would probably be those with 0 IVs in specific stats (mostly speed). I think the only other improvement to the game could be a system that lets you set IVs to 0. Black Bottlecaps maybe?

I agree though on liking how easy it is to catch a shiny and make it usable. Hell, you can even do absurdly specific Masuda hunts and the tools available to you can make Pokemon like this possible:

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The smaller scale stories in S&V work really well. Nobody plays a Pokemon game for the story but this one is simple without being retarded and has high stakes without being absurd "10 year old saves the universe" stuff. I wish they weren't such buggy pieces of shit because it's a good game and bodes well for the future.
 
the issue here is the animations caused by the shiny sparkles and the fact that the ingame timer is fucking retarded
it is a competitive advantage to have as many shinies as possible to waste as much time as possible with those sparkles
as if raising a normal competitive team without injection or other cheats wasn't autistically tedious enough, you get a tangible advantage by using as many shiny pokemon as possible
Unless you can provide me with examples of the half a second animation actually deciding matches in tournament settings, this really just comes across as petty bitching. Just sayin'. More often than not, unless both teams are straight up stall, you don't even come close to hitting the time limit. There should be a setting to turn it off, however, especially in a tournament setting.
 
Putting down a sort of reduced Pokédex, I remembered @Kari Kamiya's comment here:

I am not doing anything concrete with my idea yet, but my new Paldean Pokédex would have an Cient Alakazam and an Cient Gengar.
However, that would mean tha the number of Ancient and Future Pokémon would be unbalanced.
What would make good Future Pokémon? I prefer those that are the last stages of 3-stage evolutions.
I'd like to see Future versions of:

-Feraligatr
-Blastoise
-Victreebel
-Exeggutor
-Scolipede
-Crobat
-Yanmega
-Kabutops
-Dusknoir

As for Past Paradox forms, Dragapult is at the top of the wishlist.
 
I still feel owed a Bellossom equivalent for the superior plant line. I would adore a Paradox Victreebel
Frenzy Vine is such an obvious and natural pick for a past Paradox Victreebel that I can see it in my mind's eye already. Not sure about a future Vileplume though. Maybe switch it up and let Vileplume be like Wretch Petal meanwhile Victreebel becomes the Iron Succ.
 
I still feel owed a Bellossom equivalent for the superior plant line. I would adore a Paradox Victreebel
In the beta for Gold and Silver there was an alternative evo for Weepinbell named Tsubomitto.
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^Beta Leafeon

It got scrapped from the game, along with the Poison stone (which would have been used to evolve Weepinbell for this 'mon). Shame it got scrapped.

Someone pointed out that Tsubomitto's design could be based on a baseball player, which would have been a joke about it being a catcher plant instead of a pitcher plant.
 
In the beta for Gold and Silver there was an alternative evo for Weepinbell named Tsubomitto.
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^Beta Leafeon

It got scrapped from the game, along with the Poison stone (which would have been used to evolve Weepinbell for this 'mon). Shame it got scrapped.

Someone pointed out that Tsubomitto's design could be based on a baseball player, which would have been a joke about it being a catcher plant instead of a pitcher plant.
The funny part is that, in my theoretical hack, I already added Beta Wooper (because I am a fan of beta designs) and the Kotora line (because plenty of Pokéfans would beg me to pu the line if I am already putting beta Pokémon... and that would make Raciebeep jizz in her pants). Moreover, once I found ou that Magikarp and Gyarados were supposed to get 'Paldean' formes (the same way that Toedscool is a 'Paldean' Tentacool), I decided to make the 'Paldean' Gyarados the one from the prototype:
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...I would probably call the 'Paldean' Magikarp 'Magisano' and the 'Paldean' Gyarados 'Tierrados'.

Currently, the list is:
  1. Sprigatito (Grass)
  2. Floragato (Grass)
  3. Meowscarada (Grass/Dark)
  4. Fuecoco (Fire)
  5. Crocalor (Fire)
  6. Skeledirge (Fire/Ghost)
  7. Quaxly (Water)
  8. Quaxwell (Water)
  9. Quaquaval (Water/Fighting)
  10. Lechonk (Normal)
  11. Oikologne (Normal)
  12. Dunsparce (Normal)
  13. Dudunsparce (Normal)
  14. Tarountula (Bug)
  15. Spidops (Bug)
  16. Nymble (Bug)
  17. Lokix (Bug/Dark)
  18. Rellor (Bug)
  19. Rabsca (Bug/Psychic)
  20. Greavard (Ghost)
  21. Houndstone (Ghost)
  22. Flittle (Psychic)
  23. Espathra (Psychic)
  24. Tsuinzu (Normal/Dark)
  25. Beta Girafarig (Normal/Dark)
  26. Final Girafarig (Psychic/Normal)
  27. Farigiraf (Psychic/Normal)
  28. Kantonian Diglett (Ground)
  29. Kantonian Dugtrio (Ground)
  30. Alolan Diglett (Ground/Steel)
  31. Alolan Dugtrio (Ground/Steel)
  32. Wiglett (Water)
  33. Wugtrio (Water)
  34. Dondozo (Water)
  35. Veluza (Water/Psychic)
  36. Finizen (Water)
  37. Zero Palafin (Water)
  38. Hero Palafin (Water)
  39. Smoliv (Grass/Normal)
  40. Dolliv (Grass/Normal)
  41. Arboliva (Grass/Normal)
  42. Capsakid (Grass)
  43. Scovillain (Grass/Fire)
  44. Tadbulb (Electric)
  45. Bellibolt (Electric)
  46. Varoom (Poison/Steel)
  47. Plain Revavroom (Poison/Steel)
  48. Segin Revavroom (Dark)
  49. Schedar Revavroom (Fire)
  50. Navi Revavroom (Poison)
  51. Ruchbah Revavroom (Fairy)
  52. Caph Revavroom (Fighting)
  53. Orthworm (Steel)
  54. Tandemaus (Normal)
  55. Maushold (Normal)
  56. Cetoddle (Ice)
  57. Cetitan (Ice)
  58. Frigibax (Ice/Dragon)
  59. Arctibax (Ice/Dragon)
  60. Baxcalibur (Ice/Dragon)
  61. Curly Tatsugiri (Water/Dragon)
  62. Droopy Tatsugiri (Water/Dragon)
  63. Stretchy Tatsugiri (Water/Dragon)
  64. Cyclizar (Normal/Dragon)
  65. Pawmi (Electric)
  66. Pawmo (Electric/Fighting)
  67. Pawmot (Electric/Fighting)
  68. Wattrel (Electric/Flying)
  69. Kilowattrel (Electric/Flying)
  70. Bombirdier (Flying/Dark)
  71. Squawkabilly (Normal/Flying)
  72. Flamigo (Fighting/Flying)
  73. Klawf (Rock)
  74. Nacli (Rock)
  75. Naclstack (Rock)
  76. Garganacl (Rock)
  77. Glimmet (Poison/Rock)
  78. Glimmora (Poison/Rock)
  79. Shroodle (Poison/Normal)
  80. Grafaiai (Poison/Normal)
  81. Fidough (Fairy)
  82. Dachsbun (Fairy)
  83. Maschiff (Dark)
  84. Mabosstiff (Dark)
  85. Bramblin (Grass/Ghost)
  86. Brambleghast (Grass/Ghost)
  87. Chest Gimmighoul (Ghost)
  88. Roaming Gimmighoul (Ghost)
  89. Ghouldengo (Ghost/Steel)
  90. Phanpy (Ground)
  91. Donphan (Ground)
  92. Past Donphan (Fighting/Ground)
  93. Foongus (Grass/Poison)
  94. Amoongus (Grass/Poison)
  95. Past Amoongus (Grass/Dark)
  96. Magnemite (Electric/Steel)
  97. Magneton (Electric/Steel)
  98. Past Magneton (Electric/Ground)
  99. Magnezone (Electric/Steel)
  100. Igglybuff (Normal/Fairy)
  101. Jigglypuff (Normal/Fairy)
  102. Past Jigglypuff (Psychic/Fairy)
  103. Wigglytuff (Normal/Fairy)
  104. Gastly (Poison/Ghost)
  105. Haunter (Poison/Ghost)
  106. Gengar (Poison/Ghost)
  107. Past Gengar (Ghost/Dark)
  108. Abra (Psychic)
  109. Kadabra (Psychic)
  110. Alakazam (Psychic)
  111. Past Alakazam (Psychic/???)
  112. Misdreavous (Ghost)
  113. Past Misdreavous (Ghost/Fairy)
  114. Mismagious (Ghost)
  115. Larvesta (Bug)
  116. Volcarona (Fire/Bug)
  117. Past Volcarona (Bug/Fighting)
  118. Bagon (Dragon)
  119. Shellgon (Dragon)
  120. Salamence (Flying/Dragon)
  121. Past Salamence (Dragon/Dark)
  122. Future Donphan (Ground/Steel)
  123. Future Volcarona (Poison/Fire)
  124. Makuhita (Fighting)
  125. Hariyama (Fighting)
  126. Future Hariyama (Electric/Fighting)
  127. Deino (Dragon/Dark)
  128. Zweilous (Dragon/Dark)
  129. Hydreigon (Dragon/Dark)
  130. Future Hydreigon (Flying/Dark)
  131. Larvitar (Ground/Rock)
  132. Pupitar (Ground/Rock)
  133. Tyranitar (Rock/Dark)
  134. Future Tyranitar (Electric/Rock)
  135. Delibird (Ice/Flying)
  136. Future Delibird (Water/Ice)
  137. Ralts (Psychic/Fairy)
  138. Kirlia (Psychic/Fairy)
  139. Gardevoir (Psychic/Fairy)
  140. Gallade (Fighting/Psychic)
  141. Future Gallade (Fighting/Fairy)
  142. ???
  143. Future ???
  144. ???
  145. Future ???
  146. Ting-Lu (Ground/Dark)
  147. Chien-Pao (Ice/Dark)
  148. Wo-Chien (Grass/Dark)
  149. Chi-Yu (Fire/Dark)
  150. Koraidon (Fighting/Dragon)
  151. Miraidon (Electric/Dragon)
  152. Tinktank (Steel/Fairy)
  153. Tinkatuff (Steel/Fairy)
  154. Tinkaton (Steel/Fairy)
  155. Charcadet (Fire)
  156. Armarouge (Fire/Psychic)
  157. Ceruledge (Fire/Ghost)
  158. Tentacool (Poison/Water)
  159. Tentacruel (Poison/Water)
  160. Toedscool (Grass/Ground)
  161. Toedscruel (Grass/Ground)
  162. Pawniard (Dark/Steel)
  163. Bisharp (Dark/Steel)
  164. Kingambit (Dark/Steel)
  165. Beta Wooper (Water)
  166. Johtonian Wooper (Water/Ground)
  167. Johtonian Quagsire (Water/Ground)
  168. Paldean Wooper (Poison/Ground)
  169. Clodsire (Poison/Ground)
  170. Mankey (Fighting)
  171. Primeape (Fighting)
  172. Annihilape (Fighting/Ghost)
  173. Kantonian Tauros (Normal)
  174. Combat Tauros (Fighting)
  175. Blaze Tauros (Fire/Fighting)
  176. Aqua Tauros (Water/Fighting)
  177. Magikarp (Water)
  178. Gyarados (Water/Flying)
  179. Magisano (Ground)
  180. Tierrados (Ground/Dragon)
  181. Kotora (Electric)
  182. Raitora (Electric)
  183. Gaotora (Electric)
I am planning on making the Pokédex at around 200 Pokémon just in case later DLC would add new Pokémon, though I would rather have a balance of types in addition to the new mon.
 
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Re: all that shiny talk
I used to find shiny pokémon cool
then after finding out how autistic people on the Internet are about hunting for them, I started feeling indifferent towards them
To be fair you kinda have to be autistic to hunt them (and even more autistic if you prefer full odds hunts like me!). No sane person would buy four GBA SPs just so they can quad hunt easier.

For me they're just really cool awesome trophies that sometimes have stories attached to them. It leans more towards the collecting side of the pokemon games rather than the battling side.
 
How long til we get SV mods/romhacks to add proper level-scaling by badge count and give all the gym leaders, etc. full teams with full move sets and items? Maybe replacing all trainer battles with double battles? The biggest flaw with the game (outside of the glitches, obviously) is that it’s still piss-easy unless you accidentally wander into the wrong area.
 
How long til we get SV mods/romhacks to add proper level-scaling by badge count and give all the gym leaders, etc. full teams with full move sets and items? Maybe replacing all trainer battles with double battles? The biggest flaw with the game (outside of the glitches, obviously) is that it’s still piss-easy unless you accidentally wander into the wrong area.
Either way, I would rather wait until May, and even then debugging the game would require an engine remake.
 
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