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As fans keep up with Argentina’s success in this year’s World Cup, a familiar question arises: Why doesn’t Argentina’s team have more Black players? In stark contrast to other South American countries such as Brazil, Argentina’s soccer team pales in comparison in terms of its Black representation.

The observation is not a new one. In 2014, observers hurled jokes about how even Germany’s soccer team had at least one Black player, while it appeared that Argentina had none during that year’s World Cup Final. In 2010, Argentina’s government released a census that noted 149,493 people, which amounts to 1 percent of the country, was Black. For many, that data seemed to confirm that Argentina was indeed a White nation.

But roughly 200,000 African captives disembarked on the shores of the Río de la Plata during Argentina’s colonial period, and, by the end of the 18th century, one-third of the population was Black. Indeed, not only is the idea of Argentina as a White nation inaccurate, it clearly speaks to a longer history of Black erasure at the heart of the country’s self-definition.

Why doesn’t Argentina have more Black players in the World Cup?
Argentina is far more diverse than many people realize — but the myth that it is a White nation has persisted
Perspective by Erika Denise Edwards
Erika Denise Edwards is the author of the award-winning book "Hiding in Plain Sight: Black Women, the Law and the Making of a White Argentine Republic" and an associate professor at the University of Texas at El Paso.
December 8, 2022 at 6:00 a.m. EST

Lionel Messi celebrates Argentina scoring its first goal in Saturday’s game. (Carl Recine/Reuters)

As fans keep up with Argentina’s success in this year’s World Cup, a familiar question arises: Why doesn’t Argentina’s team have more Black players? In stark contrast to other South American countries such as Brazil, Argentina’s soccer team pales in comparison in terms of its Black representation.

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The observation is not a new one. In 2014, observers hurled jokes about how even Germany’s soccer team had at least one Black player, while it appeared that Argentina had none during that year’s World Cup Final. In 2010, Argentina’s government released a census that noted 149,493 people, which amounts to 1 percent of the country, was Black. For many, that data seemed to confirm that Argentina was indeed a White nation.

But roughly 200,000 African captives disembarked on the shores of the Río de la Plata during Argentina’s colonial period, and, by the end of the 18th century, one-third of the population was Black. Indeed, not only is the idea of Argentina as a White nation inaccurate, it clearly speaks to a longer history of Black erasure at the heart of the country’s self-definition.

Argentines have several myths that purportedly “explain” the absence of Black Argentines.

Perhaps the first and most popular of those myths has been that Black men were used as “cannon fodder” resulting in a massive death toll during wars throughout the 19th century. Revolutionary armies, for example, conscripted enslaved people to fight in Argentina’s wars of independence (1810-1819) against Spanish forces, with the promise of freedom after serving for five years.

But rather than dying on the battlefield, many simply deserted and opted to not return to their place of birth, as the historian George Reid Andrews has argued. Roll calls reveal that in 1829 the Afro-Argentine Fourth Cazadores military unit lost 31 soldiers to death and 802 to desertions. Some of these men relocated as far north as Lima, Peru. While some died and some departed, others returned home. Census data from Buenos Aires, Argentina’s most populous city, reveal its African-descended population more than doubled in size from 1778 to 1836.

Another myth argues that because of the high death toll of Black men caused by the 19th-century wars, Black women in Argentina had no choice but to marry, cohabitate with or form relationships with European men — leading to the “disappearance” of Black people. Miscegenation, or interracial mixing, over several generations is thought to have taken its toll, creating a physically lighter and Whiter population. In this telling, Black women were mere victims of an oppressive regime that dictated every aspect of their lives.

But more recent studies have instead revealed that some Black women in Argentina made concerted decisions to pass as White or Amerindian to obtain the benefits afforded by whiteness for their children and themselves. Taking advantage of various legal policies, some Black women, such as Bernabela Antonia Villamonte, could be born into captivity and die not only free but labeled as a White woman.

Other myths for the lack of Black representation in Argentine culture have focused on the outbreak of disease, especially yellow fever in 1871. Some argued that many Black Argentines were unable to move out of heavily infected areas of Buenos Aires due to their poverty and they succumbed to disease. This, too, has been debunked, as data shows that outbreaks did not kill off the Black population at higher rates than other populations.

These and other myths about Black “disappearance” in Argentina serve to obscure several of the nation’s most enduring historical legacies.

In reality, Argentina has been home to many Black people for centuries — not only the population of enslaved people and their descendants, but immigrants. Cape Verdeans began migrating to Argentina in the 19th century with their Portuguese passports and then entered the nation in larger numbers during the 1930s and 1940s seeking employment as mariners and dock workers.

But White Argentine leaders such as Domingo Faustino Sarmiento, ex-president of Argentina (1868-1874), crafted a different narrative to erase Blackness because they equated modernity with whiteness. Sarmiento wrote “Facundo: Civilization and Barbarism” (1845), which detailed Argentina’s “backwardness” and what he and others perceived as the need to become “civilized.” He was among those who shared a vision for the nation that associated it more strongly with European, rather than African or Amerindian, heritage.

Argentina abolished slavery in 1853 in most of the country and in 1861 in Buenos Aires. With its history of slavery behind it, Argentina’s leaders focused on modernization, looking to Europe as the cradle of civilization and progress. They believed that to join the ranks of Germany, France and England, Argentina had to displace its Black population — both physically and culturally.

In many ways, this was not unique to Argentina. This whitening process was attempted throughout much of Latin America, in places such as Brazil, Uruguay and Cuba.

What makes Argentina’s story unique in this context, however, is that it was successful in its push to build its image as a White country.

For example, in the 1850s, the political philosopher and diplomat Juan Bautista Alberdi, who was perhaps best known for his saying “to govern is to populate,” promoted White European immigration to the country. Argentine president Justo José de Urquiza (1854-60) supported Alberdi’s ideas and incorporated them in the country’s first constitution. Amendment 25 clearly stated: “The federal government shall foster European immigration.”

In fact, ex-president Sarmiento remarked toward the end of the 19th century: “Twenty years hence, it will be necessary to travel to Brazil to see Blacks.” He knew that Black Argentines existed but suggested that the country would not recognize them for long. Argentina’s landscape was soon transformed, as 4 million European immigrants answered the government’s call to migrate between 1860 and 1914. That clause remains in Argentina’s constitution today.

As for the nation’s Black and Amerindian populations who were in Argentina before this mass European immigration, many began to strategically identify as White if they could “pass” or to settle into more ambiguous racial and ethnic categories.

These categories included criollo (pre-immigrant background often affiliated with Spanish or Amerindian ancestry), morocho (tan-colored), pardo (brown-colored) and trigueño (wheat-colored). While these labels ultimately cast them as “Others,” they also helped dissociate them from blackness at a time when that was a state imperative.

Despite a history and its remnants that have sought to erase Blackness from the nation, Argentina’s Black population remains, and more people of African descent have been migrating there.

Today, Cape Verdean immigrants and their descendants number 12,000 to 15,000 and primarily live in the Buenos Aires area. In the 1990s and 2000s, West Africans began migrating to Argentina in larger numbers, as Europe tightened its immigration laws. While the census revealed that Argentina housed nearly 1,900 African-born nationals in 2001, that number had nearly doubled by 2010. Over the past 10 years, African descendants from other Latin American countries such as Brazil, Cuba and Uruguay have also increasingly entered Argentina seeking economic opportunities.

This history makes clear that while Argentina’s soccer team may not include people of African descent, or perhaps people that most would view as Black, it is not a “White” team either.

While Argentina has collapsed racial categories in its quest to be seen as a modern, White nation, the presence of people described as morocho nods to this history of Black and Indigenous erasure. Morocho, an inoffensive label, continues to be used in Argentina today. This term, which references those who are “tan-colored,” has been used as a way of distinguishing non-White people.

Perhaps the most famous morocho in Argentina is soccer legend Diego Maradona, who came to prominence in the 1980s and 90s. The country had three days of national mourning when he passed away in November 2020. This non-White legend became the face of Argentine soccer and, ironically, a “White nation.”

Various players on the team today are likely to be described as morocho in Argentina. Understanding this history reveals an Argentina that is far more diverse than many people often associate it with. It also points to the concerted efforts to erase and minimize Blackness in attempts to create what many of the nation’s leaders perceived as a modern nation.
 
In 2010, Argentina’s government released a census that noted 149,493 people, which amounts to 1 percent of the country, was Black. For many, that data seemed to confirm that Argentina was indeed a White nation.
The author answered the question in the second paragraph. The fuck is the rest of this article about? I ain't reading this shit.
 
So Argentina is white or not depending of where you go, also the term negro is used to describe a person who is lazy, belligerent, uneducated, dirty,etc. but is not used in a racial way, being a negro is a state of mind, you can be aboriginal as fuck yet no one will call you a negro de mierda (black piece of shit) if you are a productive member of society, and I don't remember ever hearing people using it in a racial way they always use it to refer to the behavior, it's used to describe certain characteristics, it's can also be used as a nickname and no one cares, for example in my last job everyone called the brown bald 60 year old guy that worked with us "el negrito", "el negro", "negro" etc. and no one cares, even el negrito himself said things like "Y viste que yo soy negro" (well you know I'm black after all) when talking about himself or something he did.
 
This reminds of the articles from the last World Cup where they were praising France's victory over Croatia because it was a victory for "diversity". You know, where the old colonial power country of 70 million people beat the fairly recently communist controlled and war torn country of 4 million inhabitants. First of all, Croatia doing so well is probably more a victory to nationalism than France's win being to diversity, but worst of all is that all these people were basically praising Goliath beating David as some kind of moral victory. I hate these people and their extreme fetishism over black people.
 
This reminds of the articles from the last World Cup where they were praising France's victory over Croatia because it was a victory for "diversity". You know, where the old colonial power country of 70 million people beat the fairly recently communist controlled and war torn country of 4 million inhabitants. First of all, Croatia doing so well is probably more a victory to nationalism than France's win being to diversity, but worst of all is that all these people were basically praising Goliath beating David as some kind of moral victory. I hate these people and their extreme fetishism over black people.
Some might said then France stolen players from various countries. Btw, will England will win another World Cup title?
 
This sort of article is insidious

I demand more Inuit representation on the North Korean team, and if not I'll call them racist.

It is ridiculous, but change the ethnicities and countries and suddenly is not!

Also, considering the Argentineans, I can see the incredibly racist but incredibly virtue signalling argentinean elites immediately screeching in Buenos Aires, and making a national debate about this thing with their faggot President and that mummy he carries around acting very serious on TV while pretty much nobody else out of BA gives a fuck.

What an incredible pozzed, absurd country theirs is, but it would improve heaps if they outright nuked Buenos Aires.

I wonder why, I wonder why...

The author answered the question in the second paragraph. The fuck is the rest of this article about? I ain't reading this shit.

Just what do you think it is about? It's pretty clear. They should stop being so white, of course.
 
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There was never a smooth flow of slaves, Argentina was simply a last stop to El Potosí. Niggers who self-perceive as the whores of the world take real offense if someone didn't see the point of having slaves or colonize them.
Something to notice from Argentina is that is an open border country retarded commie americans dream without undestranding what it would mean. You can't play tribalism and idpol bullshit in an open border country by definition, and thats's why nigger americans are so fucking trigged. There are very few blacks here an even less blacks who can make the effort of Niggering™️ because there is no space for doing so. You can't be a Proud and Loud Minority if there is no gatekeeping for startees.
But why am I trying, they're pathetic.
 
There was never a smooth flow of slaves, Argentina was simply a last stop to El Potosí. Niggers who self-perceive as the whores of the world take real offense if someone didn't see the point of having slaves or colonize them.
Something to notice from Argentina is that is an open border country retarded commie americans dream without undestranding what it would mean. You can't play tribalism and idpol bullshit in an open border country by definition, and thats's why nigger americans are so fucking trigged. There are very few blacks here an even less blacks who can make the effort of Niggering™️ because there is no space for doing so. You can't be a Proud and Loud Minority if there is no gatekeeping for startees.
But why am I trying, they're pathetic.

You are overthinking. This is just an idiot on a platform that is conceited an insecure enough that she feels triggered by a succesful group that doesn't have black people on it. As she would with a succesful movie that doesn't have black people on it. I'd bet she found about Argentina's demographics as she was writing this drivel, and i'd bet she was originally under the impression that all hispanics are brown - Which would have made her points slightly less ridiculous or more in line with woke standards if it was true. But she found that wasn't the case and she had already promised the article so she had to carry on.

Simple as.
 
Just waiting for the articles if say Argentina or Croatia win the title: "Why not enough diversity is a bad thing even if you win" Or something like that
British newspapers said something similar when Italy won the European soccer championship, pointed at the lack of diversity of the team as some kind of moral failure. While ignoring that we had three half-Brazilian players, but probably they weren't POC enough. Sometimes I hear American SJW lamenting that Italy in general is too white, but thing is that Italy has never been a country where people wanted to immigrate in, because after the 2 WWs we were poor as shit.

So I can't help wondering who the fuck worries about this and why. Playing in the national team isn't a matter of diversity, but a matter of athletic prowess. This "give the minorities a place in the national team because they need to be represented" is a demented take. Also, slavery and its consequences notwithstanding, I suppose that Argentina wasn't a preferred place for immigration from Africa in the 20th century.
 
You are overthinking. This is just an idiot on a platform that is conceited an insecure enough that she feels triggered by a succesful group that doesn't have black people on it. As she would with a succesful movie that doesn't have black people on it. I'd bet she found about Argentina's demographics as she was writing this drivel, and i'd bet she was originally under the impression that all hispanics are brown - Which would have made her points slightly less ridiculous or more in line with woke standards if it was true. But she found that wasn't the case and she had already promised the article so she had to carry on.
Maybe. But i hate niggers self-victimization and i needed to vent.
Idk in what mind this is an example of the white master race though... If you mix Morocco and Argentina's team without their kits they're indistinguishable.
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Nigger, wut? The name of the country literally means "land of silver", and Rio Plata means "river of money".
Its currently at number nine in world output, on par with the USA, and at a fifth of what Mexico is producing even now after centuries of exploitation. The Spanish were quite optimistic in their naming considering what Peru and Chile were producing both then and now. Here's what the USGS has to say about it:
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The fucking Poles of all people are mining more silver than the supposed Land of Silver. You might as well re-name the Vistula to be the vowel-less gibberish equivalent of "River of Money".

In terms of other natural resources though, its got plenty of lithium and petroleum, and perhaps most importantly is a major net food exporter, especially beef. Its one of the few places that still has a significant gaucho culture as a result.
 
This reminds of the articles from the last World Cup where they were praising France's victory over Croatia because it was a victory for "diversity". You know, where the old colonial power country of 70 million people beat the fairly recently communist controlled and war torn country of 4 million inhabitants. First of all, Croatia doing so well is probably more a victory to nationalism than France's win being to diversity, but worst of all is that all these people were basically praising Goliath beating David as some kind of moral victory. I hate these people and their extreme fetishism over black people.
Stupid blacks were also calling it an African Victory. Mbappé himself stepped up to say he's not African but French. I think they disowned him after this.

British newspapers said something similar when Italy won the European soccer championship, pointed at the lack of diversity of the team as some kind of moral failure. While ignoring that we had three half-Brazilian players, but probably they weren't POC enough. Sometimes I hear American SJW lamenting that Italy in general is too white, but thing is that Italy has never been a country where people wanted to immigrate in, because after the 2 WWs we were poor as shit.
The irony is that the reason Argentina (and a big chunk of S. America) is white is Italy because they sailed here by thousands. Maradona is an Italian name. Also Messi Cuccittini, Di Maria, Tagliafico, Batistuta, etc.

Armani
Rulli
Tagliafico
Pezzella
Otamendi
de Paul
Messi
DiMaria

Eight of their current players have Italian names as a father name.

Maybe. But i hate niggers self-victimization and i needed to vent.
Idk in what mind this is an example of the white master race though... If you mix Morocco and Argentina's team without their kits they're indistinguishable. View attachment 4048473
LOL, there is a reason for that:
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White, as "black", is a random term loosely used by morons. Italians, Spaniards, Greeks, some French, etc, are Meds (Mediterranean), we're a bit darker than other Europeans and look more similar to each other than to Anglos, Celtics, or Nordics.
 
article literally calling for the colonialization of another country

also this comment
For the same reason why there are no White or Asian or Latino players in nearly 50 African national teams: the demographics aren't there.

And the author ignores this, focusing on there being a "whopping" 12-15k Cape Verdeans in Argentina (in a country of almost 50 million people) or statistics about how Argentinians were 1/3rd Black in 1799.

How is that germane? Are we supposed to exhume 223 year old corpses to play on the Argentine Men's National Team to fill some forced quota? This article is a solution in search of a problem.
 
article literally calling for the colonialization of another country

also this comment "
How is that germane? Are we supposed to exhume 223 year old corpses to play on the Argentine Men's National Team to fill some forced quota? This article is a solution in search of a problem.

The "solution" is to send blacks to live in Argentina, enough that his football players represent that number. Look, we in Peru have 3% of blacks. I've circled the black ones, tell me how different they look from the ones who aren't..? you couldn't tell. The masked one is half Italian and he has the same color as #3 The black goalie has Italian ancestry somehow (last name Gallese).

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For that to happen to Argentina, you'd have to add like 3M more blacks at least to a country that already has 42M people... where are you gonna get those people? From US? I doubt it, they'd see it as a downgrade. Africa? They would rather go to Europe than here. And where are you gonna send them? They can't all fit in Buenos Aires.

There is a reason why you see so many blacks playing football. Many of them are poor. They know being good at sports is a big opportunity. A lot of those white Argies started off as poor as well. That's something these morons are unable to see.
 
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