The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

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I just have to wonder what societal impact mass abortion has had, where life and family are optional. It has to have had “Mouse Utopia” type effects to poor & POC communities in the US where the majority of facilities are conveniently placed where people unconsciously stop giving a fuck about external obligations to others if there is no visible benefit for themselves (:_(.
 
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Path Wanderer said:
I just have to wonder what societal impact mass abortion has had, where life and family are optional. It has to have had “Mouse Utopia” type effects to poor & POC communities in the US where the majority of facilities are conveniently placed where people unconsciously stop giving a fuck about external obligations to others if there is no visible benefit for themselves (:_(.
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Economists note that the US crime rate went down ~20 years after Roe v Wade was decided. Make of that what you will.
 
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Stan said:
. Make of that what you will.
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I make of it that a correlation does not equal causation. You can take a Malthusian stance that abortion as population control reduced crime but that’s one factor that does not account for innovation or cultural factors. Even if population control did prevent crime, that does not make abortion ethical (the same way liquidating villages to hunt a few bandits is not ethical)
 
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Path Wanderer said:
I make of it that a correlation does not equal causation. You can take a Malthusian stance that abortion as population control reduced crime but that’s one factor that does not account for innovation or cultural factors. Even if population control did prevent crime, that does not make abortion ethical (the same way liquidating villages to hunt a few bandits is not ethical)
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If we fully exterminated the black population, like actually just killed them all, the following year the murder rate would go down by half. "Make of that what you will," as he said. I mean hey, all it took to get there was a little genocide, but if we ignore the millions of murders that we committed beforehand (it's something like ~60 million babies aborted since Roe, iirc?), then actually we achieved a lower murder rate in the long term!
 
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An apple seed is considered part of the process of an apple, a young apple is part of the process of an apple, a fully grown apple is part of the process of an apple, an eaten or rotten apple is part of the process of an apple. An apple is an apple despite any development on the path of its life.
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Oddly enough, an embryo isn't a citizen despite it being a person and the US Constitution doesn't consider them citizens until they're born.

Likewise, an apple seed isn't a tree. It has the potential to become one.
 
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Oddly enough, an embryo isn't a citizen despite it being a person and the US Constitution doesn't consider them citizens until they're born.

Likewise, an apple seed isn't a tree. It has the potential to become one.
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So why should we deny the potential to become a citizen. An immigrant legal or illegal is consider a form of a citizen when one enters the country so why should we deny a citizen that’s already of US soil through it’s mother?
 
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I am terribly late here, but I was very surprised when the Supreme Court overruled Roe vs Wade and Doe vs Colton I actually fel tha those rulings would be repealed long after I am dead, not recently!

Myself, I was Manic tha those rulings were overruled, partially because I am truly, honestly pro-life, partially because Roe vs Wade was established through bad law (Aside from violating the Separation of Powers, the rulings were based on lies.), partially because I was going to enjoy the comparisons to The Handmaid's Tale. Indeed, I found funny how the pro-choicers were talking about being refugees... Apparently, the repeal of Roe vs Wade unleashed a legion of Charas on the United States...

Clarence Thomas also said that he was going to repeal the rulings that 'supported' same-gender marriage and sodomy... I hope so, though I also hope that he is going to overrule that 100-miles-from-the-border law.

I did find a few concerning points, though. Apparently...
  • ... you can still send abortion-inducing drugs through the mail, since tampering with mail is a federal crime.
  • ...there are women being forced to do pregnancy checks whenever they cros state borders on suspicions tha they are trying to ge to abortions in other states.
  • ...methotrexate is a no-go even to women who legitimately need the stuff (see: women with arthritis) because methotrexate can be abortofacient.
  • ...from all of the people freaking out over what would happen if they got pregnant... you would think that, despite decades of public schools and Planned Parenthood giving students step-to-step descriptions of how to pound tom-toms, they would be aware tha they ca not randomly get pregnant from repealed laws.
 
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So the fat man being interviewed in this video is a literal virgin who wrote the Texas Heartbeat Bill on a napkin in Chickfila with the grease from his sandwich. This is who you're going to let lead your movement?

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Meet the Man Trying to Ban Abortion in America, One Town At A Time | Ghostarchive

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Might be worth to bump this thread for the midterms aftermath. Some pro-choice folks got a bad awakening thanks to a dose of reality from what I read on that article.
www.americanthinker.com

What happens now on abortion?

Apparently, the abortion issue got many women to vote in 2022. So what happens now? Well, the
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November 15, 2022

What happens now on abortion?​

By Silvio Canto, Jr.

Apparently, the abortion issue got many women to vote in 2022. So what happens now? Well, the "Dobbs protest" got women to show up and it probably stopped some of the red wave in blue states. Did it do anything more that file a protest? The answer is no, and President Biden just gave the protest vote a dose of reality. ...

... What are these abortion protest voters going to get? A new electric bill this winter and maybe a layoff notice. Maybe these abortion protest voters should have voted for a better energy policy or public spending.
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Was just wondering if anything became of the overturning of Roe v Wade. It's yet another thing for which accounts must be made even. No one in the current power structure even tries to go after the criminals who engineered the artificial case, leaving us with decades of its consequences. Sure, it was overturned, but not before the damage was done, and with little momentum to correct it. Even forgoing the ability to correct, it's senile to not utterly destroy forces which unabashedly and repeatedly manipulate the letter of the law in order to get around its spirit.
 
Chandelier said:
Oddly enough, an embryo isn't a citizen despite it being a person and the US Constitution doesn't consider them citizens until they're born.

Likewise, an apple seed isn't a tree. It has the potential to become one.
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A ssed is only distinct from a tree in semantics, it's the same organism. The seed doesn't just "become" a tree at some arbitrary point.


Edit: Put it this way, the "tree" is an "man/woman" the sapling is a "child," the seed is a "baby." They're all the same organism (a tree) at different stages.
 
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A ssed is only distinct from a tree in semantics, it's the same organism. The seed doesn't just "become" a tree at some arbitrary point.


Edit: Put it this way, the "tree" is an "man/woman" the sapling is a "child," the seed is a "baby." They're all the same organism (a tree) at different stages.
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Then why does a tree falling on people kill them everyday but a sapling falling on them doesn't even hurt? Is a caterpillar and a butterfly functionally the same thing? The caterpillar can't even fly.
 
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Then why does a tree falling on people kill them everyday but a sapling falling on them doesn't even hurt? Is a caterpillar and a butterfly functionally the same thing? The caterpillar can't even fly.
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a sapling is a small tree just like a fetus is a small human
 
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a sapling is a small tree just like a fetus is a small human
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Note you said 'fetus', not 'zygote'. If life begins at conception, and therefore personhood, then one might ask why Tennessee does not regard it as personhood until implantation occurs. A seed doesn't become a tree until it takes root, no?

@Wesley Willis (forgot to include the quote when making this post) in response to that comment, if life is full of suffering and hardship, filled with cruelties unimaginable, why are no solutions offered to reduce abortion? The 'give it up for adoption' is a cheapskate argument. You are just giving your responsibility to someone else. And, looking at adoption rates by race, it paints an even dire picture.
 
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