Debate on whether Nazis are humans, the tranny question, and how to solve the decadent west

We have objective rules for society, If I want to raise a swastika instead of the American flag on my front lawn or back lawn I have the right to do so.
Me deciding to do Roman salutes and dress cringe hurts no one and you know it. You just want to virtue signal because you've been brainwashed by literal Hollywood propaganda.
Same with being a tranny, if you are a consenting adult I don't have the right to stop you from wearing a dress. You can't stop me from making fun of you for it too.
Start Instilling telling the truth in our society again. We live in the hellhole we live in because people don't want to admit there are uncomfortable truths about the world. An example would African Americans commit crime at a higher average then even other African migrants.

Simple as all of the above.
You can be a Nazi just don't hurt others.
You can be a tranny just keep it to yourself and don't hurt others.
Start telling the truth and force people to live by their words simple as.
 
It all comes down to definitions. I personally would limit use of the word Nazi to actual members of the NSDAP, and really generally limit it at as a disparaging term to the few really bad actors.
Most who fought on the German side did so with very good intentions, see Ernst Nolte, and many other works besides.
In the contemporary, Nazi now means everything from Germans who were not convinced party members to the dissident, ethnonationalist right, and has even been used to disparage the likes of Dennis Prager and Ben Shapiro.
In spit of reservations or a general apathy to Hitler that one may have, I do think any dissident right perspective has to have some sympathy for the perspective of Nazi Germany, in relation to matters such as International Jewry and finance, bolshevism and many other matters.


Maybe. Some are far more culpable and deserve harsher treatment.

Why? Why should the dissident, ethnonationalist right be treated with such brutality. Our perspective is righteous and courageous. I suppose it all comes down to defintions. I do not think even a ridiculous caricature of a Skinhead 1.0 from the 90s is so undeserving of decency.

Is @Wormy Jewish? That would explain. Getting a Jew to understand would be like, if one were to encounter a talking cow, trying to debate with her on why Hinduism's regard for cows as being sacred is bunk. Of course the cow will not listen to reason--such religious dogma protects the cow with undeserved and irrational special status.

Edit--ill also add nazis, the far right do not want to stop people from grilling, at least not those of European descent who have a right to live in Europe and its colonial diaspora. We want to build a high trust society where people get to do things like own homes with yards and grill.

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Okay, I understand you're a new fag and I'll be nice for a moment. I know what the fuck a Nazis Is retard. And I'm very aware of how it's used in a co-optive manner. The point of my post was there are no actual fucking Nazis from world war II still living today and even if there's is who fucking cares they're not even an issue. I highly recommend you lurk more Read more.

I'm 99.999 sure most if not all Kiwis on this know what a Nazi is and how the word has all meaning and I sure just about every user here knows it's not your average/Pol/ user..

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Explain Norbert and Wesker then.
I don't know where they born or under military service during the 1930-1940s in Germany If not Then their not Nazis just White nationalist LARPers Poltards or worse Shitposters
 
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Does America First have even the tiniest morsel of political or social power? Have they gotten any of their policies enacted? No? I don't see that ever changing, so that's a particularly retarded try for a whattaboutism.
 
Does America First have even the tiniest morsel of political or social power?
Yes. It's even got followers here.
Have they gotten any of their policies enacted? No? I don't see that ever changing, so that's a particularly retarded try for a whattaboutism.
I think I'm bored with you now. Hell, I'm bored with this thread.
 
We have objective rules for society, If I want to raise a swastika instead of the American flag on my front lawn or back lawn I have the right to do so.
Me deciding to do Roman salutes and dress cringe hurts no one and you know it. You just want to virtue signal because you've been brainwashed by literal Hollywood propaganda.
Almost no one is advocating for that, or does that. Such behavior could only be attributed to being a fed, being mentally ill, or not at all very bright.
Same with being a tranny, if you are a consenting adult I don't have the right to stop you from wearing a dress. You can't stop me from making fun of you for it too.
This permissive attitude is exactly why we are in the trouble we are in. It is the boomer creed of hyper individualism. What someone does in his own private life is his own, hurr durr. No, what people do affects society, it affects everyone. This libertarian free for all has led to many societal ills, no fault divorce, single moms, widespread drug abuse, now things like gambling porn.
Less freedom is more. People should not have the right to do whatever they want, regardless of how deviant or destructive ir is That is one of the powerful, hidden truths of the dark enlightenment of the dissident, ethnonationalist right.
Start Instilling telling the truth in our society again. We live in the hellhole we live in because people don't want to admit there are uncomfortable truths about the world. An example would African Americans commit crime at a higher average then even other African migrants.
I agree, but your live and let live ethos has proven wholly ineffectual.
Simple as all of the above.
You can be a Nazi just don't hurt others.
You can be a tranny just keep it to yourself and don't hurt others.
Start telling the truth and force people to live by their words simple as.
No see above. People should not have the right to do whatever they want. Hyper individualism atomizes society.
I know what the fuck a Nazis Is retard. And I'm very aware of how it's used in a co-optive manner. The point of my post was there are no actual fucking Nazis from world war II still living today and even if there's is who fucking cares they're not even an issue. I highly recommend you lurk more Read more.
It is not all about you. Not everyone in this post shares your limited definition, particularly not the person who started this. I myself at times call myself a Nazi just to work leftist pigs in a latter. Also, most of those who lived during die gute alte Zeit may be dead, but for any dissident, ethnonatioanlist right-wing movement to be successful and address the actual problems we face will have to reform conventional wisdom about the real, underlying causes of WWII. So much of what is destroying Europe and the West is precisely as the Allied victors desire, and a failure to recognize that will doom you just as much as the boomer delusion that race is just skin color or carrying on about how "the democrats are the real racists."
Thank you for your unsolicited recommendation by I prefer to post and contribute as I have been. You can of course always choose not to read or respond.
I'm 99.999 sure most if not all Kiwis on this know what a Nazi is and how the word has all meaning and I sure just about every user here knows it's not your average/Pol/ user..
See above.
I guess you've had enough of people pointing out that you're not very bright. It's ok, I promise I don't have any less respect for you than I had at the beginning.
I think one thing we can all agree on, well of us except wormy, is that he failed to meet your fairly reasonable challenge. It just comes to show that good faith attempts at dialogue and understanding usually go unrewarded.
 
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Almost no one is advocating for that, or does that. Such behavior could only be attributed to being a fed, being mentally ill, or not at all very bright.

This permissive attitude is exactly why we are in the trouble we are in. It is the boomer creed of hyper individualism. What someone does in his own private life is his own, hurr durr. No, what people do affects society, it affects everyone. This libertarian free for all has led to many societal ills, no fault divorce, single moms, widespread drug abuse, now things like gambling porn.
Less freedom is more. People should not have the right to do whatever they want, regardless of how deviant or destructive ir is That is one of the powerful, hidden truths of the dark enlightenment of the dissident, ethnonationalist right.

I agree, but your live and let live ethos has proven wholly ineffectual.

No see above. People should not have the right to do whatever they want. Hyper individualism atomizes society.

It is not all about you. Not everyone in this post shares your limited definition, particularly not the person who started this. I myself at times call myself a Nazi just to work leftist pigs in a latter. Also, most of those who lived during die gute alte Zeit may be dead, but for any dissident, ethnonatioanlist right-wing movement to be successful and address the actual problems we face will have to reform conventional wisdom about the real, underlying causes of WWII. So much of what is destroying Europe and the West is precisely as the Allied victors desire, and a failure to recognize that will doom you just as much as the boomer delusion that race is just skin color or carrying on about how "the democrats are the real racists."
Thank you for your unsolicited recommendation by I prefer to post and contribute as I have been. You can of course always choose not to read or respond.

See above.

I think one thing we can all agree on, well of us except wormy, is that he failed to meet your fairly reasonable challenge. It just comes to show that good faith attempts at dialogue and understanding usually go unrewarded
The point was there are no Nazis only people that like to pretend there are Nazis and people that pretend to be Nazis. Both category of people should be ridiculed for being fucking retarded. As for my original post, yeah this thread is illuminated with the radiant glow of autism just bask in it. Soak it up and laugh. Also, if you want to own the libs then do the one thing they hate most raise a successful white family and get involved locally with politics
 
I guess you've had enough of people pointing out that you're not very bright. It's ok, I promise I don't have any less respect for you than I had at the beginning.
Wormy (or MT Foxtrot as he used to be known) doesn't know how to respond when he can't hide behind his buck broken slave black best friend and he can't try and shame you into agreeing with him.

Him being "not very bright" is par for the course with his boomer-tier leftoidism.
 
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Almost no one is advocating for that, or does that. Such behavior could only be attributed to being a fed, being mentally ill, or not at all very bright.

This permissive attitude is exactly why we are in the trouble we are in. It is the boomer creed of hyper individualism. What someone does in his own private life is his own, hurr durr. No, what people do affects society, it affects everyone. This libertarian free for all has led to many societal ills, no fault divorce, single moms, widespread drug abuse, now things like gambling porn.
Less freedom is more. People should not have the right to do whatever they want, regardless of how deviant or destructive ir is That is one of the powerful, hidden truths of the dark enlightenment of the dissident, ethnonationalist right.

I agree, but your live and let live ethos has proven wholly ineffectual.

No see above. People should not have the right to do whatever they want. Hyper individualism atomizes society.

It is not all about you. Not everyone in this post shares your limited definition, particularly not the person who started this. I myself at times call myself a Nazi just to work leftist pigs in a latter. Also, most of those who lived during die gute alte Zeit may be dead, but for any dissident, ethnonatioanlist right-wing movement to be successful and address the actual problems we face will have to reform conventional wisdom about the real, underlying causes of WWII. So much of what is destroying Europe and the West is precisely as the Allied victors desire, and a failure to recognize that will doom you just as much as the boomer delusion that race is just skin color or carrying on about how "the democrats are the real racists."
Thank you for your unsolicited recommendation by I prefer to post and contribute as I have been. You can of course always choose not to read or respond.

See above.

I think one thing we can all agree on, well of us except wormy, is that he failed to meet your fairly reasonable challenge. It just comes to show that good faith attempts at dialogue and understanding usually go unrewarded.
When you tell people no especially Americans they get into this mode of Fuck you, I will undermine and use the system. No fault divorce has been devastating, however criminalization is not as effective as stigmatization. You can stigmatize something like prostitution and still argue for it's legality.
 
@Wormy is not really wrong, but he is truly making an effort to present his points in the dumbest way possible.
Autists do often have difficulty presenting ideas in a persuasive, appealing way because of an under-developed theory of mind.

They can't conceive of your worldview and beliefs and motivations, so they have no idea how to tailor an argument so that it finds common ground.
 
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