US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[The Ugly One]

I rate optimistic because it takes a strong CEO personality to actually tell the wokies to leave. When you have softies like Bob Chapek or Papa John in charge, wokies, who can be as high up as the CFO position, run roughshod over them. Jack Dorsey could have cleaned up Twitter years ago at a fraction of the cost and with no media press, but didn't because he's a weak man.

Unironically, if you ever are in a management and discover you have a woke subordinate, you have to fire xir.

 

[Glowing In The Streets]

Senate Passes Bill Banning TikTok From Government Devices​

Senate Passes Bill Banning TikTok From Government Devices

The move comes in the face of mounting national-security concerns.

www.wsj.com

sounds like a nothing burger to me
did the gov actually allow its devices to have tiktok? can a gov employee also download file transfer apps and porn?

 

[OrangeJuliusEvola]

Second: That the Democrats would funnel money to their debts first. This seemed like a no brainer. Unlike the US debt nobody is going to buy this. Debts get paid first so you can borrow against your own credibility for both money and political favors. Not doing so would be insanity.

The Democrats did not do so.

They appear to have funneled every red scent they could into their warchest. Ignoring all debts and letting them pile up and come due. This is insanity, bafflingly so. I can only assume they thought they'd actually keep the house or even gain a significant majority in the senate. That is the only thing that makes sense. Because as is, Biden is a Lame Duck, their ability to pass anything is nuked, the filibuster is still an insurmountable issue, and just in general everything is more or less "As it was before, but slightly worse".... and now the people they owe debts to will at best cut ties until they sort their shit.

I dunno man, my relatives who loudly vote blue ignore their debt loads and jack shit seems to happen to them.

More seriously though, I do wonder about the source of the money. Gray economy maybe? My most serious thought floats to FTX, with its idiot wunderkind leader who understands programming and crypto, but is too autistic to not do shit like play video games while being grilled on camera or figure out how to dress like an adult, who likely has progressive values, and a very poor theory of mind sounds like the perfect patsy to float payments that don't actually exist. Convenient it all fell apart after the election, and everyone guilty is likely too disorganized, clueless, or a true believer for string-pullers to be unearthed.

 

[Vic Smackey]

First: That the federal GOP would recoil from the Democrat's actions as it fundamentally broke the agreement between them. This one was half-wrong. The GOP -did- recoil.... but only parts of it. Several key players and organizations didn't, they chose instead to continue to support the Democrats and prop up their own candidate. This is suicidal hence why I dismissed it prior. The GOP does not have anywhere near the voter fraud machine the Democrats do. They -are- vulnerable to being primaried. This is political suicide outside of purple states, and only not in purple states because of fraud. If it percolates to the masses that McConnel sabotaged the midterms then he is wide open for a primary. Idiocy.


Second: That the Democrats would funnel money to their debts first. This seemed like a no brainer. Unlike the US debt nobody is going to buy this. Debts get paid first so you can borrow against your own credibility for both money and political favors. Not doing so would be insanity.

The Democrats did not do so.

They appear to have funneled every red scent they could into their warchest. Ignoring all debts and letting them pile up and come due. This is insanity, bafflingly so. I can only assume they thought they'd actually keep the house or even gain a significant majority in the senate. That is the only thing that makes sense. Because as is, Biden is a Lame Duck, their ability to pass anything is nuked, the filibuster is still an insurmountable issue, and just in general everything is more or less "As it was before, but slightly worse".... and now the people they owe debts to will at best cut ties until they sort their shit.

I used to think that weak Republican leadership allowed Democrat ran fraud machines to flourish (and maybe occasionally borrow them) but last midterm taught me otherwise. Been mostly focussing on Arizona but it seems that the steal seems to be Maricopa County, their BoS and county recorder (whose worked for CISA btw).

https://twitter.com/ThomasGalvin/status/1601227951353528321?cxt=HHwWgoDUzdGV2rgsAAAA

Pretty much all these guys were part of anti MAGA groups and PACs and Steve Gallardo is going to get promoted (potentially) to AZDem Chair.

https://twitter.com/jeremyduda/status/1602457025664860160/photo/1

Is there any good reason as a voting centre to have these gehenna?

As far as will the Democrats running out of money, I think they concoct money laundering schemes indefinitely. I'm at a bit of a loss to how MAGA gets around this much fuckery and think change will only come when the clowns running the show run the US and the west in general into total collapse.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

As far as will the Democrats running out of money, I think they concoct money laundering schemes indefinitely. I'm at a bit of a loss to how MAGA gets around this much fuckery and think change will only come when the clowns running the show run the US and the west in general into total collapse.

Yep. People said the Democrats were going bankrupt after 2018, like that was the absolute best they could get. Then 2020 came and they "won" the election again and just so happened to have pocketed the majority of the BLM donations (there was a disclaimer on the BLM website saying it was a political donation that was going to ActBlue). But supposedly that was the end of the Democrat money machine. Then 2022 came. Unsurprisingly, the GOP has almost as many goldfish brains as the Democrats.

As for where the money comes from, I guarantee some of it is coming from places we'd never dream. There must be a world of illegal campaign financing in the DNC, and probably hotlines they can call for when they run out of legitimate money. Wouldn't be surprised if it's government money (i.e. your taxpayer dollars) meant to be used for other things. Some shit like the BLM donation scam and FTX donations blend those two together.

And yes, the Republican establishment has this too. Bankman's partner in crime at FTX donated to one of Mitch McConnell's favorite superPACs. Wonder how active some of these people were in the Republican primaries at keeping the establishment in power?

 

[Drunk Smurf Lore]

Senate Passes Bill Banning TikTok From Government Devices​

Senate Passes Bill Banning TikTok From Government Devices

The move comes in the face of mounting national-security concerns.

www.wsj.com

lol why? What is a chink gonna say that Western government doesn't?
"You should sterilize your children"
"Your war generals should be eunuchs"
"All institutions of power should be held by fat black women"
Uh oh guys the Chinese might subvert us.

 

[SBG]

Except aren't most on the right basically calling for results now? I think there could even be a struggle for catch-22s in regard for Biden impeachment.

Results in what way?

From what I’ve seen most on the right want to see leftists mad and see that as evidence that the right is winning. Tangible results are irrelevant to that.

Same thing happened with AOC, where leftists didn’t follow any conversations about her but assumed if Fox was mocking her it meant she was winning.

Republican politicians often know now they can just denounce vaccines, lockdowns, CRT, and trannies and upset leftists to the glee of voters while not having to pass any effective legislation. A lot of Republican voters will even gladly say that results don’t matter because all they’re hoping for is gridlock. If results mattered then that’d never be allowed.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

I rate optimistic because it takes a strong CEO personality to actually tell the wokies to leave. When you have softies like Bob Chapek or Papa John in charge, wokies, who can be as high up as the CFO position, run roughshod over them. Jack Dorsey could have cleaned up Twitter years ago at a fraction of the cost and with no media press, but didn't because he's a weak man.

Senior and c-suite executives are selected for their compliance. Jack Dorsey didn’t get showered with billions because he was a take no shit Gordon Gekko type, he was showered with billions because he was willing to comply with the demands of venture capitalists until they found a pajeet who would do a better job complying. Any CEO who bucks the demands of banks, key shareholders, etc. will be promptly asked to resign.

Until the banks drop the ESG bullshit, wokeness will continue unabated. It all starts with the institutions who issue loans, credit ratings, activist investors with trillions in assets to throw around, etc. The banks need to be buck broken.

 

[The Taco Santo!]

To counter-act Democratic policies some hypothetical ideas I can think of is advocating for a "practical environmentalism" that understands the limitations green energy actually has (and doesn't have a pointless fear of nuclear energy) instead of trying to be a one-all solution the "Green New Deal" seems to say it is.

Any Republican proposals will be ignored, and the talking point/media narrative will continue to be "Republicans have no plans and no proposals, despite the Democrats wanting to work together to solve this 'crisis'. This isn't just for the environment, they do this about every single political and economic issue.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Happy page 2077 people, the year 2077 is when the great war happened in Fallout, Fallout, the universe where the American government was so blatantly corrupt and tyranical that they viewed most of the population of their country and the world as little more than cattle and didn't really care if they lived or died during the nuclear apocalypse as they only cared about mantaining their own power, even if the world was turned to ash.

Thankfully that is just some silly videogame shit that would never happen in real life hahaha

And now it's the 100th anniversary of that classic Halloween which people won't remember and all think it's about that guy in a hockey mask

 

[Michael Wade]

Second: That the Democrats would funnel money to their debts first. This seemed like a no brainer. Unlike the US debt nobody is going to buy this. Debts get paid first so you can borrow against your own credibility for both money and political favors. Not doing so would be insanity.

The Democrats did not do so.

How badly did the FTX scandal rock the boat? Im very curious about the behind the scenes damage that's done money wise.

 

[Kane Lives]

How badly did the FTX scandal rock the boat? Im very curious about the behind the scenes damage that's done money wise.

What damage? From all I'm reading, the only damage FTX had done was to the sheeple who invested their life savings into it, thinking they could outsmart the house. As they would find out, the house always wins.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Until the banks drop the ESG bullshit, wokeness will continue unabated.

It's going to happen far sooner than you think. ESG is an unsustainable market bubble, with most of its apparent growth developing from a round-about ponzi scheme. It's been driven by groups like Blackrock, who have profited wildly by creating ESG scores for companies and banks, which are then used by other investors to decide where they should put their money. ESG has not performed as well as promised, leading to one or two major investors to drop the concept in recent weeks.

Blackrock recently claimed that the new recession is "unlike any other", which is why they're re-organising their portfolio. They've pumped, now they're about to dump and walk away from the market they created, leaving everyone else holding the bags of stinking excrement.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Ten years ago I would have agreed with this.

But having seen what a lot of major corporations have done in the name of progressiveness and wokeness (ESG scores, anyone), I think there's a LOT of true believers that have bought the line "all we need is one more massacre to achieve utopia" and will keep backing the Dems hoping for either a bigger payday OR because they're true believers and starting to care less and less about profit.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

I think the situation is more optimistic on that front than it might seem.

Yeah? I think it's more grim than it appears on the surface, actually, and mainly due to this:

Second: That the Democrats would funnel money to their debts first. This seemed like a no brainer. Unlike the US debt nobody is going to buy this. Debts get paid first so you can borrow against your own credibility for both money and political favors. Not doing so would be insanity.

The Democrats did not do so.

They appear to have funneled every red scent they could into their warchest. Ignoring all debts and letting them pile up and come due. This is insanity, bafflingly so.

The important thing to note is that regardless of sanity, humans are logical, rational creatures. Even a madman has his own internal "logic" as to why he does what he does, maybe it's the lizardfolk telling him to eat his shit or whatever, but to him it makes "sense".

Now, under what circumstances would a regular person ever, say, take out a shitload of credit cards, and spend them without caring about the debt? Because if you can answer that rhetorical question correctly I think the conclusions drawn from the answer aren't very hopeful.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

What damage? From all I'm reading, the only damage FTX had done was to the sheeple who invested their life savings into it, thinking they could outsmart the house. As they would find out, the house always wins.

FTX was involved in Ukrainian donations via crypto, and funneled huge piles of money into the democratic party which they definitely didn't make off the back of that unaccountable ukrainian crypto, and them imploding is causing a bunch of questions to start being asked.

That being said, the whole things too many layers removed for normies to catch on to much, so its not gonna shake much up. A few middlemen might feel the squeeze of pressure as they scapegoat it, but everyone who has power in the situation has all the interest in the world to quietly brush this under the rug as much as possible.

 

[The Ugly One]

Ten years ago I would have agreed with this.

But having seen what a lot of major corporations have done in the name of progressiveness and wokeness (ESG scores, anyone), I think there's a LOT of true believers that have bought the line "all we need is one more massacre to achieve utopia" and will keep backing the Dems hoping for either a bigger payday OR because they're true believers and starting to care less and less about profit.

What happened is in the 1990s, corporations were compelled to start taking steps to improve diversity. You needed more women & blacks on the payroll to avoid lawsuits. The serious men who ran things had no idea where to put them, so they decided, by and large, to put them in the place where they'd be best at helping the company avoid lawsuits - Human Resources.

So you put people with degrees in Women's Studies and other progressive nonsense in charge of all hiring & firing at the company, and surprise, 30 years later, only true believers run things. It's not like they necessarily fire you if you aren't a true believer. It's that if you aren't a believer, all the diversity training and events and messaging and bullshit is mentally taxing. It's exhausting to engage with beyond the bare minimum. You think, I just want to do my job, and do what you can to avoid being at the Latinx Womxn In Xngineering summit the company is having. Well, the woke corporate events are a key part of networking your way to the top, so you are, by default, not in the running for VP or CEO. Only people who can show enthusiasm for diversity for years on end are even in the running.

So yes, everyone running things now really believes that with the right set of regulatory nudges, black women will be driving the next leg up of technological progress and industrial advances.

 

[Damocles_Sword]

How badly did the FTX scandal rock the boat? Im very curious about the behind the scenes damage that's done money wise.

He got arrested just before he was to testify under oath. He's a pampered autistic turbojew who cant put down the fortnite. His parents are big league DNC money raisers and indoctrinators. I'm surprised they haven't had their scapegoat epsteined yet. It will be soon and the machine their scapegoat benefitted will simply shrug, say "oh well, I guess that's over then." and drop the whole mess.

 

[LurkTrawl]

What happened is in the 1990s, corporations were compelled to start taking steps to improve diversity. You needed more women & blacks on the payroll to avoid lawsuits.

Think though. Why were those laws in place? And who wrote them?

This entire system has been in the works for longer than that. Even if like me you assume they've been winging it at times, it's worth pointing out a lot of these politicians have been around for far longer than the 90's. Ditto for the political impetus behind the woke shit. Like fuck Bernie was in a civil rights march, for example.

 

[The Ugly One]

I hope sensible and based people don't heed these insidious changes to language. Language is culture and if they succeed at changing that, it would be very bad.

These changes will soon be mandatory in all commercial publication and communications. Either you get on board, or you lose your job.

This is the direct consequence of conservatives choosing to chant "Get woke, go broke" instead of litigating or legislating.

 

[The Ugly One]

Conservatives get so mad when you tell then they won't stop the next thing, but I've witnessed this for thirty straight years:

1. The left says they're going to push a new change.
2. Conservatives say, "The last change was fine, but this is too far! People will never tolerate it! We have all the guns! We'll vote out the Democrats."
3. The left does the thing via legislation, regulation, and corporate policy.
4. Conservatives do not overthrow the government.
5. Conservatives do not come up with any actionable plan to get what they claim to be passionate about.
6. Republicans at some point win an election and focus on cutting taxes and starting wars; the last leftist thing becomes a social institution.

The last two things to go through this process were Obamacare and gay marriage. We joked in 2012 that in a few years, conservatives would say, "I'm for traditional gay marriage, not this transgender stuff," and thats exactly what conservatives are saying ten years later.

But before that, it was the generic "he" and the word "mankind." It was high-flow showerheads. It was letting kids ride their bikes halfway across the county. It was safe cities, clean streets, and Christmas celebrations. I remember when conservatives said they would never tolerate unmarried people openly living together, I know today hardly any Republican-voting married people who didn't live together for a couple years first.

The list of thing conservatives said they'd go to the mattresses for is infinite. The list of things they actually did anything about is really, really short.