Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Pinainas]

The British began to literally freeze to death, the meme became a reality.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/ben-kentish/emotional-cold-caller-helped/

I guess e-begging is the key to sustainable sanctions

 

[TheAntiCoomer]

you often spurt utter drivel, but this takes the cake. Ukraine has barely existed for 100 years. And you always have, and always will be a case study in favour of abortion.

Ukraine is as much a state as moldova, belrus, the baltic states and Ireland. All of these places have existed as a cause of ww1, and yet only Ukraine is somehow illegitimate because Ruskies have deemed it so. That guys still a tard though.

I mean, the ukranians have barely enough people willing to die for their oligarchs and western degeneracy, and now this faggot goes and lobbies so ukranian soldiers can chop their dicks

Gay marriage legalized, troonification of the people, soon they'll have a great and thriving democracy(tm)! So glad that all the Ukrainian patriots were systematically destroyed by this war, western influenced skyrocketed, and new refugees are entering into the EU. Isn't Russia so BASED and COOL while launching another brothers war that only advances the globohomo?

 

[MrJokerRager]

Wow, does @mindlessobserver is legally required to harvest laughs from us with his idiocy every day? Poor guy
On conflict related news...
I mean, the ukranians have barely enough people willing to die for their oligarchs and western degeneracy, and now this faggot goes and lobbies so ukranian soldiers can chop their dicks

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And Jesus Wept....

Hello boys!
How's the struggle session going?
What happened to autistically archiving facts then pointing and laughing at dumb shit?

No happenings after the hohol missile trying to make Bandera proud and the password reset purges and folks like @Givi gone, have taken their toll.

 

[Absolutego]

Anything that Lenin created is cancer, which is @White_N what alludes to.

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His statue sitting in Seattle must be overthrown and destroyed as well. Private property excuse be damned since leftoids of Seattle don't believe in the concept.

Statue of Lenin (Seattle) - Wikipedia

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The dude who bought that statue routinely paints blood on Lenin's hands and bought it because it was one of the few that portrayed him in a more militaristic way than the austere scholar all the Commieboos want to pretend Lenin was, instead of a brutal dictator who was damned lucky that Stalin came after him to whitewash his legacy.

Like, literally nobody but a tiny tiny minority of tankies actually thinks its meant positively. It's up to condemn Lenin, not praise him.

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

I get we're talking about Slav irridentism and troons here, but let's cut the fag talk.

This patriot missile stuff is going to backfire badly. What's the response going to be when we light up a RuAF package that has anti-radiation capability?

They're not just going to sit there and get shot at.

 

[RobotDog]

This patriot missile stuff is going to backfire badly

Yes, but not in the same way you are thinking, once the patriot missiles fail to stop the iranian drones like they failed when the Aramco refinery was attacked ukranians will become angry and will badmouth the missiles like they did when the bayraktars continued to be shot down

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[mindlessobserver]

Yes, but not in the same way you are thinking, once the patriot missiles fail to stop the iranian drones like they failed when the Aramco refinery was attacked ukranians will become angry and will badmouth the missiles like they did when the bayraktars continued to be shot down

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Patriots are notoriously unreliable for shooting down incoming missiles on their terminal approach, which was ostensibly what they were originally for. Shooting down Cruise Missiles and strategic missiles. They did pretty good against fast moving Cruise Missiles that were still on approach, but sucked donkey dick at shooting down incoming strategic missiles. That's why the US began blowing fuck loads of money developing the SM-3 system to try and intercept strategic missiles before they got on terminal approach. Its not ideal because that means engaging them in SPAAAAAAAACE , but it works better then trying to hit it when its hurtling to earth at god knows what speed.

Can the Patriot shoot down the Shahed? Or a Jet Fighter/bomber? Absolutely. The issue of course is cost. One missile for the Patriot costs 4 million dollars. One Shahed costs 20,000 dollars. So Russia wins whether or not the Shahed hits it's target or not. The More Cost effective solution to the Shahed problem would be to give Ukraine the ATACM's missiles for the HIMARS and MLRS launchers we've already given them and allow them to lob those at the Shaheds on the ground, as well as their command/control systems. But that would mean giving Ukraine the ability to launch strikes deep into Russia. A Capability Biden has been leery of giving the Ukrainians since this whole mess started.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

You niggas are in the minority, everyone is predicting Russia will launch a huge offensive the moment the ground freezes, and stays frozen.
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Mind you, this is from Newsweek, hardly supporters of Russia.

This isn’t news this is to be expected from both sides. What’s up for debate is how well supplied both sides will be for winter operations. Ukraine has been sourcing winter supplies from NATO countries while Russia is a grab bag of units being fully supplied or forced to rely on volunteer groups and whatever the reserves can purchase on call up.

Meanwhile Ukraine will be forced to supply its cities and its frontlines with fuel for heating compared to Russia that has to just focus on supplying its troops and if they’re disciplined enough not to run their vehicles constantly, a tough call because some of the men coming in from the reserves have low morale and get complaints they’re too drunk to be relied on.

Only thing you can say with certainty is expect a lot of thermal drone footage in the future

 

[Doinker Marmalade]

Yes, but not in the same way you are thinking, once the patriot missiles fail to stop the iranian drones like they failed when the Aramco refinery was attacked ukranians will become angry and will badmouth the missiles like they did when the bayraktars continued to be shot down

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I've heard from some analysts that air defense systems are meant to be paired with compatible systems, like Ukraine right now has S-300, BUKs, etc, they all compliment each other and form a comprehensive layered system that was designed to communicate with each other.

The patriot system is gonna be the retard with an iPhone angry that he can't airdrop files to android users.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Uzbekistan is quickly learning that letting niggers in ruins the neighborhood

 

[mindlessobserver]

I've heard from some analysts that air defense systems are meant to be paired with compatible systems, like Ukraine right now has S-300, BUKs, etc, they all compliment each other and form a comprehensive layered system that was designed to communicate with each other.

The patriot system is gonna be the retard with an iPhone angry that he can't airdrop files to android users.

To a Point. Radar data from a Patriot Radar can't be fed to an incompatible platform. This can be mitigated by having the Patriot Terminal and the other Systems terminal in the same operations room. The issue can be worked around, but you are correct its not ideal at all. I would expect though the Patriots will be deployed to critical infrastructure like Power Plants and Water Plants. They won't be using them for general purpose air denial over the entire country.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

All that Patriot nonsense is just another propaganda op. Ukraine is not going to get a significant enough amount of them to matter in this war. In order to put a dent into Russia's drone supply, it would cost the western taxpayer literal billions to keep that pig fed.

For reference: https://fortune.com/2022/12/15/patriot-missile-defense-systems-what-they-are-and-what-they-do/

Patriot missile defense systems: What they are and what they do | For…

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Over the years the Patriot system and missiles have been continually modified. The current interceptor missile for the Patriot system costs approximately $4 million per round and the launchers cost about $10 million each, CSIS reported in its July missile defense report. At that price, it’s not cost effective or optimal to use the Patriot to shoot down the far smaller and dramatically cheaper Iranian drones that Russia has been buying and using in Ukraine.

“Firing a million-dollar missile at a $50,000 drone is a losing proposition,” said Mark Cancian, a retired Marine Corps reserves colonel and senior adviser at CSIS.

$4 million per missile vs a $8k drone or an even cheaper Soviet-era decoy, how is that even remotely sustainable?

 

[mindlessobserver]

$4 million per missile vs a $8k drone or an even cheaper Soviet-era decoy, how is that even remotely sustainable?

I doubt its the missiles they are worried about. Its the radar. Patriot Radar is capable of working with Germanies Gepard. Most of Ukraine's Radar's don't track the Shahed well, but the Patriot Radar can.

So the Radar would detect the incoming drones, and the Gepard can shoot them down with regular old AAA Bullets.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

I doubt its the missiles they are worried about. Its the radar. Patriot Radar is capable of working with Germanies Gepard.

So the Radar would detect the incoming drones, and the Gepard can shoot them down with regular old AAA Bullets.

Except that the Swiss vetoed the export of additional Gepard ammunition to Ukraine few months ago, meaning that those systems are standing there with no ammo, gathering dust. Not even remotely close to being a threat to those drone swarms.

Swiss block German request to re-export tank ammunition to Ukraine

The Swiss government has confirmed that it vetoed the re-export of Swiss-made ammunition used in anti-aircraft tanks that Germany plans to send to Ukraine.

www.swissinfo.ch

https://archive.ph/vVKZw

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More relevant reading: https://mil.in.ua/en/news/germany-i...ce-ammunition-namely-those-needed-by-ukraine/

Germany is building a factory to produce ammunition, namely those nee…

archived 15 Dec 2022 20:08:47 UTC

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Good news, Ukraine bros! Germany started building a factory to manufacture that exact 35mm ammo. Should be able to provide some to Ukraine in what, a year or two? Sure hope nothing happens to German energy supplies that would delay production in that factory even further...

 

[RobotDog]

Except that the Swiss vetoed the export of additional Gepard ammunition to Ukraine few months ago, meaning that those systems are standing there with no ammo, gathering dust. Not even remotely close to being a threat to those drone swarms.

Swiss block German request to re-export tank ammunition to Ukraine

The Swiss government has confirmed that it vetoed the re-export of Swiss-made ammunition used in anti-aircraft tanks that Germany plans to send to Ukraine.

www.swissinfo.ch

https://archive.ph/vVKZw

Edit:
More relevant reading: https://mil.in.ua/en/news/germany-i...ce-ammunition-namely-those-needed-by-ukraine/

Germany is building a factory to produce ammunition, namely those nee…

archived 15 Dec 2022 20:08:47 UTC

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Good news, Ukraine bros! Germany started building a factory to manufacture that exact 35mm ammo. Should be able to provide some to Ukraine in what, a year or two? Sure hope nothing happens to German energy supplies that would delay production in that factory even further...

Also, how plausible is that the Swiss are providing ammo without telling anyone?
A video of a lithuanian radar being destroyed was recently posted, a radar that was not reported as being used by Ukraine

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Also, how plausible is that the Swiss are providing ammo without telling anyone?
A video of a lithuanian radar being destroyed was recently posted, a radar that was not reported as being used by Ukraine
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Swiss are sneaky fuckers who take their neutrality seriously, who knows. If I had to guess I'd say they aren't likely to export, as that kind of ammo comes only from a few limited sources and can be traced pretty easily.

Norway tried exporting a batch of it to Ukraine, only to hilariously find out that it doesn't work in German Gepards.

Original source was Der Spiegel but it's in German and behind a paywall, so here's a Bulgarian one: https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2022/...ard-spaag-35mm-shells-are-useless-in-ukraine/

Norway-delivered Gepard SPAAG shells are useless in Ukraine

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And a German one: https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Kiew-meldet-Probleme-mit-deutschen-Haubitzen-article23495360.html

Vermutlich zu intensive Nutzung: Kiew meldet Probleme mit deutschen H…

archived 29 Jul 2022 17:00:35 UTC

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[Blewberry Nausea]

I doubt its the missiles they are worried about. Its the radar. Patriot Radar is capable of working with Germanies Gepard. Most of Ukraine's Radar's don't track the Shahed well, but the Patriot Radar can.

So the Radar would detect the incoming drones, and the Gepard can shoot them down with regular old AAA Bullets.

You are such a nigger.

 

[Doinker Marmalade]

$4 million per missile vs a $8k drone or an even cheaper Soviet-era decoy, how is that even remotely sustainable?

Just wait until Russia starts using these:

Russia wants to dump its ass on Ukraine and have the $4 million missile-janny clean every single last turd.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Just wait until Russia starts using these:

Russia wants to dump its ass on Ukraine and have the $4 million missile-janny clean every single last turd.

Yes, the self-guided Kukuruznik Surprise, always a classic.

There's quite a contest right now between military engineers trying to build the cheapest possible drone to trigger a very expensive missile system. Geran-2 is $8k, can definitely go cheaper.

Wonder if some of the larger RC planes on AliExpress could be modded to have the right signature to trigger a Patriot missile...

 

[Mepsi Pax]

Wonder if some of the larger RC planes on AliExpress could be modded to have the right signature to trigger a Patriot missile...

Just sign them "I HATE NIGGERS", "JUDEN RAUS", or "TRANNY DEATH" and watch the rainbow generals fight to see who can shoot the most missiles at them

It's perfect