Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

[speedweed]

Marcus Aurelius was the Jack Murphy of the 2nd century. He even had a cuck beard.

 

[Ophelia]

It sounds like you’re saying being cuckolds makes men into great thinkers.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

lol
Yeah guys. Only read ultimate success chads and follow their lifestyles, like Andrew Tate or Arnold Shwarcnigger.
Don't read cucks whose works echo across history, they're not chads.

 

[Dude Snakes]

At the end of the day Peterson is still just a boomer lib who desperately clings to the fantasy of universalism even though he knows it to be false because he's too scared to admit the inevitable conclusions of his logic.

White pride has practical value. If responsibility is preached as the path to meaning and that taking responsibility for upholding the cultural institutions of the west is a moral obligation then the most effective way to get your message across is through encouraging white people to take pride in their shared heritage.

You could have simply said white people need to make more white babies.

 

[speedweed]

It's hard to take Aurelius seriously after he let every gladiator in Rome fuck his wife. Seems to me all that stoicism he professed was just übercope.

 

[Pump Meat]

It's hard to take Aurelius seriously after he let every gladiator in Rome fuck his wife. Seems to me all that stoicism he professed was just übercope.

So walk me through how you came to this confident conclusion. Do you just take every second-hand account of what Herodes Atticus supposedly said at face value and then multiply that by 100 or something? Like, do you just plant your hands on your hips and say, " See this ruthless world where a high-stake game of lethal politics is taking place? I'm just going to take everything said at face value because absolutely nobody is going to fabricate a lie to make their rivals look illegitimate."

 

[blazeaster]

A microcosm for a lack of foresight. Like he had zero (and I mean absolutely zero) idea that people would to this reply in a particular way

It’s almost makes me believe that he threw the whole evil demon troll rat tantrum on purpose, but it’s more likely he genuinely got mad there

 

[speedweed]

People who aren't cucked don't need to wax poetic into their diary everyday about muh feels. Doesn't seem very stoic to me.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

People who aren't cucked don't need to wax poetic into their diary everyday about muh feels. Doesn't seem very stoic to me.

Who said anything about Stoics not having feelings? Stoicism is about keeping your emotions under control and dealing with obstacles appropriately, not going YOLO and stone-faced.

 

[speedweed]

If you need to cry into a personal journal on the daily you don't have your emotions under control

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

If you need cry into a personal journal on the daily you don't have your emotions under control

Sure, if the meditations were full of Aurelius seething about such and such gladiator cucking him with his wife I might agree with you but they're not. They're full of inspiring messages to keep going and not let the bad things in his life dogpile him.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Stoicism is about conformity and quiet resignation to your luck which is super easy to pull off when you are rich nobility

 

[Slur Generator]

Drugs really will rot your brain. This is just fucking sad.

 

[Pump Meat]

People who aren't cucked don't need to wax poetic into their diary everyday about muh feels. Doesn't seem very stoic to me.

Ah, so you don't have any familiarity with the subject and have no meaningful ideas to talk about, you are just shitposting. Gotcha. I'm sure this based take is having a chilling effect on Jews everywhere.

 

[speedweed]

Glad you finally figured it out lmao

 

[Saint Agustin]

Marcus Aurelius was the Jack Murphy of the 2nd century. He even had a cuck beard.

Marcus Aurelius would have been a redditor in today's world.

Sure, if the meditations were full of Aurelius seething about such and such gladiator cucking him with his wife I might agree with you but they're not. They're full of inspiring messages to keep going and not let the bad things in his life dogpile him.

That's sounds like a redditor trying to excuse his cuckness and how he is happy with his wife fucking everyone in town.

Also, is it me or Jordan Peterson is gay?

 

[speedweed]

Also, is it me or Jordan Peterson is gay?

Now that you mention it...


I don't think he is but then again I've never seen a straight man wear buckled shoes.

 

[Caramelo]

Now that you mention it...
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I don't think he is but then again I've never seen a straight man wear buckled shoes.

He is a bit effeminate and has some interests that are typically feminine, like psychology (heavily people oriented). I don't think he is gay, though. Not strictly, at least.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

He is a bit effeminate and has some interests that are typically feminine, like psychology (heavily people oriented). I don't think he is gay, though. Not strictly, at least.

He might not be gay but he is a faggot

 

[Hazel Motes]

Stoicism is about conformity and quiet resignation to your luck which is super easy to pull off when you are rich nobility

This is an excellent point and goes to the heart of philosophy!

This is going off-topic, but Seneca is a prime example of this contention. His stoicism speaks of resignation from worldly affairs, how much better it is to be alone than to be in the court, yet he spent much of his life as a teacher and advisor to Nero. The early Roman historian Dio Cassius noted "while denouncing tyranny, Seneca was making himself a teacher of a tyrant," and while disparaging flattery in his letters, consistently fawned over the rich and powerful for his own gain. He was lucky enough to write essays and tragedies whilst living out the high life in the Roman court. His suicide execution, at least to me, seems like a parody of Socrates' own. He attempts to kill himself poetically as a stoic should, but it turns into a long, drawn-out affair as many over-thought actions do. Much like Mishima's failed seppuku (it was not as visually appealing as Paul Schrader makes it in the film) or Macbeth following the Witches' prophecy, the reality is never so clean as words and imagination make it out to be.

Seneca was a hypocrite of the highest order, yes, but would not a man who was sentenced to death three times not know the pleasures of resignation? Should we judge him by what he does or what he says he should be like? Now, I am not a stoic but Seneca's essays make me think and I am better off for reading them. He is a flawed character, yes, but it does not make him an unworthwhile read, simply a cause for understanding and restraint from leaping into ideals. If he had followed through on his thinking, and become the contemplative ascetic, I'm doubtful anyone would have heard of him, especially in the modern era. This you could apply to all abstract philosophies and the privilege of being able to preach them. Seneca, Jonathan Dollimore has written, "arguably demonstrates the inevitable, insightful failure of philosophy when it engages with the reality it seeks to know." Perhaps this is why Wittgenstein tried to escape the label of philosopher. He knew how 'the truth' led him astray from living and practicality (he wanted to be an architect and engineer). Philosophy is better off with his inner turmoil, however, as it made him frank and honest about its limitations.

A better example and one of my favourite sections in all of literature is from Samuel Johnson's Rasselas. Rasselas is a prince in search of "The Good Life." On his journey, he meets a philosopher, who waxes on about his idealised worldview and principles. Rasselas is impressed by the man's learning and tries to meet him the next day, not knowing the philosopher's daughter has died.

Rasselas, who could not conceive how any man could reason so forcibly without feeling the cogency of his own arguments, paid his visit in a few days, and was denied admission. He had now learned the power of money, and made his way by a piece of gold to the inner apartment, where he found the philosopher in a room half darkened, with his eyes misty and his face pale. “Sir,” said he, “you are come at a time when all human friendship is useless; what I suffer cannot be remedied: what I have lost cannot be supplied. My daughter, my only daughter, from whose tenderness I expected all the comforts of my age, died last night of a fever. My views, my purposes, my hopes, are at an end: I am now a lonely being, disunited from society.”

“Sir,” said the Prince, “mortality is an event by which a wise man can never be surprised: we know that death is always near, and it should therefore always be expected.” “Young man,” answered the philosopher, “you speak like one that has never felt the pangs of separation.” “Have you then forgot the precepts,” said Rasselas, “which you so powerfully enforced? Has wisdom no strength to arm the heart against calamity? Consider that external things are naturally variable, but truth and reason are always the same.” “What comfort,” said the mourner, “can truth and reason afford me? Of what effect are they now, but to tell me that my daughter will not be restored?”

Rasselas leaves, "convinced of the emptiness of rhetorical sounds, and the inefficacy of polished periods and studied sentences." Johnson wrote the novel to cover his much-loved mother's funeral expenses. I am certain philosophers provided him with no comfort in his grief.