E Beggars on Twitter / Social Media E Beggar General - "Pay for FUCKING EVERYTHING"

I’m sorry if I’m wrong. Ive skimmed a lot of this thread and haven’t seen any evidence of what I’ll add, but maybe it’s simply not the point of the thread, so…
These people who feel disgusting entitled to other‘s money, have no reason to expect something for nothing. It’s the way the world works. Some people are charitable, but giving money to those who rely on grifting is not the same as being charitable to those in genuinely difficult spots.

Why don’t these people do something in return. It would make a donor see they were trying to give back, or to say thanks for your money…..do anything.

I have no problem giving money to some struggling youtube content creators. Even if their content is bad and their channel tiny and unmonetised. I’ll throw them a paypal becuase they’re giving content.
Or if every donor got a handmade, simple gift or even a thank you card. It takes it from grifting to sincere need for money (you know they really need it if they’re bothered to create something to give back).

Theres no need to be a complete grifter. Be grateful. Give your time (they must have lots if they’re unemployed. Give BACK what you can. A small token gesture, or make the effort to entertain on YouTube.

I know this thread is for the LAZY GRIFTERS….but it doesn’t take a lot of effort to become a sympathetic figure…if potential donors see you’re doing something….anything.
It is unbelievable to me that humans have become so entitled as to expect something for nothing.
 
i see a lot of this online, but the ones who are whining about not having winter clothing or coats baffle me...winter is a yearly event, these retards know this, and the only conclusion here is that they are obviously taking back new clothing for cash/gift cards to sell. that aside, a lot of food banks will now hand deliver free food/sundries to some of these lazy shitheads even, so if they truly need money THAT bad, they can haul their useless asses on down to the plasma donation center, if they are too good to work.
As somebody who typically gets a decade or more out of a winter coat before it's beyond repair, I want to ask them, "So what did you wear last winter?"
Most frugal people want to wear stuff such as coats as long as possible because decent clothes aren't cheap (and that was before supply chain issues and inflation reared their ugly heads recently). Sadly, though, many feel entitled to a new jacket or other clothing articles every year even if they don't necessarily need them because they convince themselves year-old clothes are somehow beneath them.

I think her name is Tia or Tifa (like the Final Fantasy character).
NGL, my first thought was someone calling themselves Ann Tifa because of the leanings of some of the more hardcore grifters. 🤣
 
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This particular Tumblr user will make weekly posts about how her and her SO are homeless trans youth looking for cash. This doesn’t stop them from reblogging sex posts and cringe Tumblr memes on their profile everyday constantly. Not quite sure what’s stopping them from finding actual work that would help foot some of their bills but hey I’m just a regular everyday transphobe what do I know?
 
Why don’t these people do something in return. It would make a donor see they were trying to give back, or to say thanks for your money…..do anything.

I have no problem giving money to some struggling youtube content creators. Even if their content is bad and their channel tiny and unmonetised. I’ll throw them a paypal becuase they’re giving content.
Or if every donor got a handmade, simple gift or even a thank you card. It takes it from grifting to sincere need for money (you know they really need it if they’re bothered to create something to give back).

Theres no need to be a complete grifter. Be grateful. Give your time (they must have lots if they’re unemployed. Give BACK what you can. A small token gesture, or make the effort to entertain on YouTube.

That sounds suspiciously like 'work'. I don't think you have the measure of these people yet, if you think they're prepared to put in a minimum of effort for their gibs.
 
So Twitter has banned accounts that they find are mostly made for gimmedats, as well as linking to certain social media and third party sites, including Linktree. Basically a proverbial tent city crackdown.

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Sounds illegal? It is. But since Linktree linking is currently banned and most e beggars perform the exact behavior that Twitter is trying to crack down, it’ll be interesting to see the salt.

Currently, however, most of the e beggars are just going business as usual, like Mem here:

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(last one is from a day ago but fuck it)

Or others:

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Shadow ranted about not getting to link Mastadon, but still begged as early as yesterday:

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Only person I really have seen “jump ship” so far is Polissa, honestly. She may have her own thread but this is relevant to the Twitter e beggars in general, so I will cross post this update here.

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Maybe we’ll get more salt tomorrow. I’m honestly pretty disappointed. E Beggars are everywhere, though, so even if the Linktree ban is not reversed or paused in like a day like all the other Nu Twitter policies, this thread will still get content.
 
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I hate these people for how they've made me suspicious of everyone who asks for help now. I want to be a good person and help those in need, and now my first assumption is always that it's a grift, and it's the fault of these parasites.
It also does not help that we’re living in a time where old people are regularly getting sucker punched from behind, and it’s usually the homeless people that look like they need food and clothing to get through the day.

Food shelters really need to step up their game.
 
Food shelters really need to step up their game.
Unfortunately, inflation woes have hit food banks and related charities pretty hard this year. In my part of Kiwi Land, I recently heard that donations to the area's Salvation Army are down 17% compared to last year and many food banks - big and small - are receiving fewer donations, whether cash or goods, to the point some have had to close altogether because people who would otherwise donate in the past have less disposable income to do so this year thanks to inflation driving up the cost of practically everything.

It's also MATI-worthy when grifters who have the ability to support themselves refuse to do so and demand resources intended for the truly destitute -- resources that are few and far between this year for the aforementioned reasons.

The Twitter ban on promoting links to other platforms is interesting to see, especially the part that says attempts to obfuscate such links is also a no-no. Still, I wonder how such a ban will be implemented and enforced in a practical way. Even if grifters aren't mass banned any time soon, I expect to see some combination of salt, creative workarounds, and people outright ignoring the new rules.

TL; DR - Until accounts do get suspended/banned in significant numbers, I expect things to be business as usual.
 
The tweet about the no 3rd party links rule has been deleted, and the policy removed from the Twitter website.

I would be very surprised if Polissa (and anyone else saying it, for that matter) leaves for more than 24 hours. Loud declarations of jumping ship or "not being able to take this anymore", only to resurface once you wake up the next morning and get bored, are the MO of Twitter addicts.
 
I hate these people for how they've made me suspicious of everyone who asks for help now. I want to be a good person and help those in need, and now my first assumption is always that it's a grift, and it's the fault of these parasites.
If it's a stranger asking for money online, it's mostly probably a grift, but I'm a bit paranoid and don't trust anyone who begs on social media.
Maybe it's safer to help people you know in real life or who are locals. IMO it's always better to donate to shelters and NGOs in your hometown, that way you can know if that money is well-spent or not.
 
If it's a stranger asking for money online, it's mostly probably a grift, but I'm a bit paranoid and don't trust anyone who begs on social media.
Maybe it's safer to help people you know in real life or who are locals. IMO it's always better to donate to shelters and NGOs in your hometown, that way you can know if that money is well-spent or not.
NGL - I wouldn't trust anyone with whom I don't have any sort of offline interaction. It's one thing to help out a high school buddy whose kid is sick with a serious medical condition and insurance doesn't cover all the bills. It's another when someone you barely know randomly asks you for money without reason or explanation. In that respect, I'm like you that I tend to be skeptical when people want money on their say so alone.

I'll concur that it's better to find one or more reputable charities or organizations that help people and donate to them over the year so that you know the donations go towards helping people and don't line grifters' pockets instead.
 
NGL - I wouldn't trust anyone with whom I don't have any sort of offline interaction. It's one thing to help out a high school buddy whose kid is sick with a serious medical condition and insurance doesn't cover all the bills. It's another when someone you barely know randomly asks you for money without reason or explanation. In that respect, I'm like you that I tend to be skeptical when people want money on their say so alone.

I'll concur that it's better to find one or more reputable charities or organizations that help people and donate to them over the year so that you know the donations go towards helping people and don't line grifters' pockets instead.
Even then, though, your money might not go to where it's supposed to. For example, hundreds of millions of dollars ware raised during the 2019-2020 Australian bushfires, and hardly any of it actually went to the people who lost their homes and livelihoods. Some charities haven't even spent the fucking money yet. The whole thing has really damaged the reputation of large charities in Australia, and many people who were big supporters of charity just don't bother anymore. If you really want to make a difference, I strongly recommend you give most of your attention to small, local organisations. If nothing else they're more accountable and have less resources to pay lawyers to distract you while they slither off with the rest of the money.
 
For example, hundreds of millions of dollars ware raised during the 2019-2020 Australian bushfires, and hardly any of it actually went to the people who lost their homes and livelihoods. Some charities haven't even spent the fucking money yet.
just a quick comment on this since i participated in reponse efforts to the Paradise fires here in California a bit ago: a good chunk of raised funds are placed in a trust - meaning they cannot be spent outside of the legally established trust governance documents (ie, you cannot use raised charitable funds for supplies or equipment if they were raised for supplying immediate cash relief directly to people). additionally in my experience, something like 1/3 of major disaster funds aren't accepted by qualifying recipients since they have alternate means of relief (insurance, friends, family, other property, et c and the notion that some may need the funds more than they do).

lastly something like half of the Paradise charitable funds haven't been spent since government disaster relief already has direct funding and transfers and loans of equipment and personnel, so the funds have nothing to purchase - the military, other states, FEMA, various private companies that operate shipping yards, rail yards, lumber yards, all have equipment to easily loan or put to service with compensation taken care of later down the line whether from emergency funds purposely set aside for that purpose (FEMA) or through payments made via charitable donation or nonprofit funding like pay for volunteer firefighters during the special hazardous time period).

it is better to keep those funds available for future needs related to the disaster or slowly spend the funds as unexpected gaps in funding appear later (like medical situations that don't show up for years after a disaster or damaged property like a foundation or sewage system that has no immediate need for repair due to other more critical requirements needing attention first).

it's pretty rare to have fraud in charities, but it does happen. be sure to research whatever charity you want to donate to and ask what percent of your donation goes towards their charitable goals (instead of administrative costs) and if you're still suspicious, there's no harm in a small donation or volunteering with an organization that needs bodies and expertise rather than raw money or goods, or good feelings.
 
it's pretty rare to have fraud in charities
But with 'mutual aid' internet grifters, the chance of fraud is 100%. When I was out of an actual job for the better part of four years (I took as many temp jobs and side work as I could, but it was 2008-2012), if I asked for help and the person agreed, I would give them a photocopy of the utility bill and asked to have a check for any amount made out directly to the utility company so I was 100% accountable. If someone needs help, and it's not due to a lifestyle cycle and you want to help them, offer to do something like that. Or take them grocery shopping. Or let them offer their labor in exchange. I cleaned a lot of houses and raked a lot of leaves during that time.
 
NGL - I wouldn't trust anyone with whom I don't have any sort of offline interaction. It's one thing to help out a high school buddy whose kid is sick with a serious medical condition and insurance doesn't cover all the bills. It's another when someone you barely know randomly asks you for money without reason or explanation. In that respect, I'm like you that I tend to be skeptical when people want money on their say so alone.
Random strangers asking for money to supposedly cover basic expenses will get side-eye from me because my first question will always be, "Why aren't you asking friends and family for help with this?"

Granted, some honest people really can't count on family for one reason or another, and they're likely to have friends who are just as broke as they are. But not having any kind of familial/social network one can turn to in a crisis tells me that the person asking for charity has already burned through those relationships, because every time I scratch below the surface and dig up the facts behind their plea, that turns out to be the case. Every fucking time.

I'm open to the idea that one day I'll be approached for money by a stranger who legitimately has no family left, and no friends due to circumstances beyond their control, but so far it hasn't happened. It's always people who have exhausted the love and resources of those closest to them, whose financial woes have never been solved by it, and who haven't learned a damned thing from it—other than to keep begging, only from tender-hearted strangers.

My other question is inevitably, "Why aren't you getting help from the programs and charities created to help people in your position with these specific expenses?" Utility companies offer assistance to low-income customers. Food banks offer basic groceries, and can serve as a good supplement to SNAP. There are charities that offer clothing for both adults and children. On and on—if you have a genuine basic need, there is a legit means to fill it.

So if you're begging strangers online to fund those things, I assume you: a) don't know what resources are available; b) are a choosy beggar who doesn't want to utilize them because they aren't to your tastes; c) you're a grifter; or d) a combination of b and c.
 
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