Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[AgendaPoster]

But I'm sort of with you on this one, I don't think its going to make that much of a difference. Venezuela had been banned from global oil & banking, and all that meant was a few extra hurdles and more paperwork to forge. There is too much money to be made and too many people willing to look the otherway.

I'm just tired of what I see as unwarranted optimism. I fail to understand how it helps Ukraine if you're "positive" about whatever is happening. From my perspective, Ukraine is caught in a conventional attrition war with a much larger enemy. Sure, if you look at most videos, they seem to be better equipped and in generally better mood than the Russians, but Russia's specialty is throwing endless supplies of cheap equipment and soldiers to die at the enemy. Numbers are not on Ukraine side, this is why Russia is so calm with its setbacks, all it has to do is persist. To make things worse, most of the clips I am seeing (regardless of source) from Russia tend to show a very brainwashed population in full support of the war. I just don't see how it will ever revolt, especially coupled with the police repression apparatus Putin built.
The US supplies will eventually dry up. Cuckservatards and rightoids in the West are literally seething because of the help to Ukraine, and they are many. They cannot be ignored. Even in East Europe there are a LOT of people that are more or less fed up and if given the choice, they'd immediately decide that Russia gets to keep the land it annexed, only for the war to stop, in a naive expectation things will return to normal.
The longer this continues the worse things will get, Ukraine cannot elicit additional good will in the West, there's no source for that. Russian propaganda is extremely successful, not the "Santa Putin fixed gaytard couple" cringetopia stuff, but the sneaky partial truth telling and repetition, the Douglas MacGregors, the Tucker Carlson, the Glenn Greenwalds, people with relative high IQ that know to put together long "exposés" of the real corruption and issues of the country, and selectively offer the Russian perspective as if it's the neutral, reasonable one.
Relatively blackpilled on the situation. Only the military might of the US and the desperation of the Ukrainians to resist are keeping things alive. But they need a Kherson/month IMO, and the cost in lives is already horrific.
Might be wrong. Who knows.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Bolting looted tractor parts to their tanks as armor.

Fuck it, NATO needs to go boots on the ground and call Russias bluff. I'd be surprised if even a single one of their neglected 1950s nukes clears the silo doors before it catastrophically fails. This conflict is just a live-fire test for western weapons companies at this stage.

I suspect that they have nowhere near the amount of functioning nukes that they claim to have, but they definitely have more than one working nuke. As long as they even have one, that's a risky gamble to be making.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Plus, this topic is a circlejerk.

For you.

Serious question: is it possible for Ukrainians not to lie?

Ukrainian MP Lesya Vasilenko shared a photo of a boy who survived the Russian artillery attack. How sad. Everyone weeps for this poor child.

Spoiler: A few moments later on Twitter...

Except that the photo was taken in 2013 or possibly earlier, for the cover of a Spanish book.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Sounds like a horrible, stupid idea, appropriate for fragile idiots that can't take a few downdoots and autists disagreeing. Circlejerks and cliques are idiotic as hell and should be disrupted.
Idea segregation is simply bad.

We aren't segregating ideas. This is literally a place to discuss it. Nato-bros argue constantly with Russia-bros here all the time.

Needless to say that nobody online is obliged to answer questions you pose,

No, but the fact that you don't is quite telling.

that acknowledging that in war you kill the enemy is in no way a meltdown, it's reality.

If that's what you call your post. Going on a several paragraph rant about how "no Russian citizen should ever feel safe" and endless harassment of Russian populace in spite of the fact that this, according to you, will cause Kiev to be wiped out, full of inaccurate fantasies about resistance fighters, seems more than a mere "acknowledging" to me, but you do you.

I am an adept of eye for an eye and vengeance, I see no reason to hide it.

But you aren't, though. You only subscribe to that idea only insofar as it justifies violence on Russia. If that same logic can be applied to Ukraine, suddently you stop talking about it and move to a different topic

Each Ukrainian civilian death should be avenged by one Russian.
Where's the logical problem?

There are several, one of which is that Ukraine, itself, has a habbit of killing its own civilians (as per Ukraine gov as long as it suspects you of working with the enemy (even if without proof). That aside, what about situations where Ukraine's goverment has used its civilians as meat shields? Here are a few examples. 1, 2, 3, 4. Who do we sacrifice then? All that aside, what if retribution is unjust? As per your own conditions, Ukraine is a country that needs to be crushed. What about that? And, what if Russia is right? You operate from the perspective that it is wrong, and it might or might not be, but your assertion, presupposes that Russia is in the wrong. I could extend the thought, and consider why you are wrong even if Russia is wrong, but ultimately, you don't actually believe your words. Before you were jerking off to Russian genocide, and now you are pretending like eye for an eye was ways your goal.

Ultimately, if Ukraine wants to equalize the death toll, they are going to have to win. And less and less are deluded enough to think that will happen.

that Russia gets to keep the land it annexed, only for the war to stop, in a naive expectation things will return to normal

Why won't it?

and selectively offer the Russian perspective as if it's the neutral, reasonable one

Why wouldn't it be? This implies (ignoring that you accuse people who don't like of only giving Russian propoganda) that anything Russia says is always false or unreasonable. For someone who hates propoganda, you are full of it yourself.

desperation of the Ukrainians to resist

Yes, their will to resist is why it is illegal for Ukrainians to flee Ukraine. Because they all want to fight. They just need a good ol' Soviet style gun to the head encouragement, I guess. Their will to resist is so strong that 7.8 million (23% of all adult population) has left Ukraine (most for Russia)

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

Blinken talking about how not withdrawing faster from Afghanistan would have mean't not being able to support Ukraine properly.

What a happy little coincidence. That's what makes Ukraine so special to the US, all of these happy little coincidence over the last 10 years..

 

[Ghostse]

I'm just tired of what I see as unwarranted optimism. I fail to understand how it helps Ukraine if you're "positive" about whatever is happening. From my perspective, Ukraine is caught in a conventional attrition war with a much larger enemy. Sure, if you look at most videos, they seem to be better equipped and in generally better mood than the Russians, but Russia's specialty is throwing endless supplies of cheap equipment and soldiers to die at the enemy. Numbers are not on Ukraine side, this is why Russia is so calm with its setbacks, all it has to do is persist. To make things worse, most of the clips I am seeing (regardless of source) from Russia tend to show a very brainwashed population in full support of the war. I just don't see how it will ever revolt, especially coupled with the police repression apparatus Putin built.
The US supplies will eventually dry up. Cuckservatards and rightoids in the West are literally seething because of the help to Ukraine, and they are many. They cannot be ignored. Even in East Europe there are a LOT of people that are more or less fed up and if given the choice, they'd immediately decide that Russia gets to keep the land it annexed, only for the war to stop, in a naive expectation things will return to normal.

I don't think the US supplies will dry up. Or I should say, they won't be the first thing to dry up. I'm pretty sure the Eurocuck will be the first to blink when the heating bills come due and their insistence of funneling (and continuing to funnel) billions to Russia instead of invest in their own industry comes to bite them. Once the shivering shrivel-dicks in the EU turn the taps all the way back on - I give it another year, two tops - Ukraine's attempts to win against an enemy 10x its size will be pointless.

I'm more concerned about the US doing a gay Vietnam where Ukrain isn't allowed to advance east of the 76th parallel or some gay shit the Manchurian candidates in congress like to do to ensure the war doesn't end in a way that leaves the Rooski's too butthurt.

While everything is going in Ukraine's favor, even the Senile Man Bad crowd won't rock the boat.
This is the superbowl of the arms industry. This is a chance to get your weapon systems field tested against the best Russia has to offer, for a global audience.
HIMARS is considered fairly old tech but it will be selling units for the next 30 years based on rofflestomping the russians.
Even if some MAGA senator really wanted to fuck with Ukraine instead of (correctly) sensing a weakness in the donkey herd they can twist to get their own concessions, the donor check from Lockheed-Martin would cause them to reconsider.

And what you're saying about time being on the Russians side is what I've been saying ever since the failed to take Kiev. The fact they ground up all their experienced soldiers into cannon fodder has been rendered moot by being able to have thier conscripts do their training in Belarus.

And yeah, anyone expecting a popular uprising in Russia is high off their fucking tits. They didn't rebel against the Soviets. Putin's reign only ends one of two ways:
Putin dead of natural causes (most likely)
Putin overthrown by someone in his innercircle, so the new boss can be the same as the old boss, except in exchange for the CIA glownigger assist Russia has to withdraw troops (lol no not under Sleepy Uncle Joe) declare invalid the refferendums about Crimea and the Donbros' republics joining Russia.

So for some minor telegram news.

Blinken talking about how not withdrawing faster from Afghanistan would have mean't not being able to support Ukraine properly.

Jack Posobiec

BREAKING: Tony Blinken just said the US couldn’t be supporting Ukraine right now if they were still in Afghanistan and has no ability to support 2 allies at once Sorry Taiwan

t.me

Jesus christ that fucking cope.

If the US could still fly troops and bombers into Afghanistan, Russia would have never stepped to Ukraine. They would have have needed to keep forces stationed and ready for imminent response by the US. With that no longer a threat, all those defenses could be moved west.

For that to happen, Biden/State Department just needed to stick to withdraw time table worked out under Trump, but their seething need to try to unperson Orange Man produced the most stunning self-own ever seen until the current Keystone Kaucus Kops cluster fuck.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

You're not even using the meme right XDXD

Isn't the meme supposed to be two opposing things pressed at once without awareness to hypocrisy, irony or double-standards?
Like the left and right meme are supposed to be opposites?

Fuck it, NATO needs to go boots on the ground and call Russias bluff. I'd be surprised if even a single one of their neglected 1950s nukes clears the silo doors before it catastrophically fails. This conflict is just a live-fire test for western weapons companies at this stage.

Russia still has a very functional nuke arsenal, and likely has received more attention than its rotting navy or paper guards regiments. That and even if Avengard is a quarter as capable as the Russians claim it to be, that's still a serious threat to pretty much any NATO country.

However, the biggest defense against Russian nukes is the US, England and France ALSO having nukes (something vatniks like to forget). The one major flaw in any "WERE GONNA N00X NATO!!!" plan is that NATO can always do this thing called "nuke them back".
There is an old but still highly relevant concept called "Mutually Assured Destruction"/"Mutually Assured Annihilation" (MAD/MAA): Basically, NOBODY WINS in a nuclear exchange, which is why nobody starts a nuclear exchange with someone else who can nuke back.

 

[Snekposter]

Russia still has a very functional nuke arsenal, and likely has received more attention than its rotting navy or paper guards regiments. That and even if Avengard is a quarter as capable as the Russians claim it to be, that's still a serious threat to pretty much any NATO country.

However, the biggest defense against Russian nukes is the US, England and France ALSO having nukes (something vatniks like to forget). The one major flaw in any "WERE GONNA N00X NATO!!!" plan is that NATO can always do this thing called "nuke them back".
There is an old but still highly relevant concept called "Mutually Assured Destruction"/"Mutually Assured Annihilation" (MAD/MAA): Basically, NOBODY WINS in a nuclear exchange, which is why nobody starts a nuclear exchange with someone else who can nuke back.

Welcome to Day Whatever of missing Donald Trump like you wouldn't believe. His response to Putin's nuke threats would be the same as his response to Fatboy Kim's threats: "I have nukes of my own, a lot more, and unlike yours they're proven to work."

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Welcome to Day Whatever of missing Donald Trump like you wouldn't believe. His response to Putin's nuke threats would be the same as his response to Fatboy Kim's threats: "I have nukes of my own, a lot more, and unlike yours they're proven to work."

Eh the US has made a few low key nuke threats during this conflict. I can recall twice in the last few months that we surfaced a ballistic missile submarine and published pictures of it. Not exactly the same as saying "we'll nuke you", but it carries the same message.

 

[draggs]

Russia screeching we'll nuke ya and the West screeching we'll nuke ya back then and Russia screeching we don't care we'll really do it and the West screeching we don't care we'll really do it back and so on has a long history

 

[Snekposter]

Eh the US has made a few low key nuke threats during this conflict. I can recall twice in the last few months that we surfaced a ballistic missile submarine and published pictures of it. Not exactly the same as saying "we'll nuke you", but it carries the same message.

You're right. It just isn't quite the same as Donald Trump slapping a pointer against a diagram of our publicly disclosed nuclear assets during a press conference and talking about how we've got the biggest, the YUUUGEST nuclear arsenal in the world. He could even make a joke about how he's always wanted to go into glasswares and ask if anyone wants to invest in Trump Windows.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

If Trump were still in office, then Zelensky would 100% trade Hunter Biden emails in exchange for ATACMS and a package to retrofit SLAM-ERs to their Sukhois & MiGs.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

Cool story bro, and this from a shit bird that spergs out and calls everyone they don't like motherfuckers.

Your retarded comment here literally reads like:

"I know black people so I can say nigger"
"I know gay people so I can say faggot"

On the plus side you are the shining example all the other ignorant Ukratard supporting inbreeds can look up to and emulate.

Watch your own country turn to shit as your government sends even more money to "Belensky" then delays sending money to the national guard because it's gone to neo-nazis

DISGRACEFUL: Biden Regime Delays Paychecks to National Guard Members for Christmas After Announcing Another $45 Billion Giveaway to Ukraine

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Whoops! Now which country isn't paying their armed forces?!

Holy shit, I think I broke your brain.

Allow me to kindly recommend that you a) learn to read and b) read what you previously wrote that I am responding to. Then you might not look like such a dumbass.

 

[Kreitani]

Babe, wake up, new dronetoss dropped

Also why do vatniggs barracks burn?
Novocherkask,Rostov

Also some chmobik beat his commander to death in Chelyabinsk

 

[Foltest]

Babe, wake up, new dronetoss dropped
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Also why do vatniggs barracks burning?
Novocherkask,Rostov
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if barracks are burning so far behind the frontlines we have three options:
1. Agents from Ukraine.
2. freak accident.
3. Disgruntled Russian soldiers who are sick of being treated like shit by their commanders and went "fuck it" and burned it down.

 

[teriyakiburns]

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Whatever happened to separating religion from church and state?

He didn't ban the ukranian orthodox church. He wanted to ban churches from associating with the Russian orthodox church because it's full of FSB agents.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Picked up NYT from an airport (was free) and there are some interesting articles.

Picked up NYT from an airport (was free) and there are some interesting articles.

Spoiler: Citizen spies foil Putin plan/Citizen spies' role in war effort

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And that is why Russia doesn't look too kindly to anyone pretending to be just a civilian. As this article, once again, confirms, Ukraine's "security services", "military commanders", and "intelligence agents" encouraged civilains being used as active combatants and spies

Also, an interesting query. Why is it that democracy is run by arresting, and spying on, everyone that disagrees? Weird how the western powers claim to support freedoms, but jump at any opportunity to arrest you for exercising the freedoms. Example? Sure, here you go, here's one from yesterdays NYT article on Germany:

 

[🇷🇺Fuck Ukraine🇷🇺]

Holy shit, I think I broke your brain.

Allow me to kindly recommend that you a) learn to read and b) read what you previously wrote that I am responding to. Then you might not look like such a dumbass.

Hahahaha thats what you took from that?

You really as are thick as pig shit...

You're right bro, your 4D chess moves are too awesome.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I thought Ukraine wanted to be independant?

 

[Fools Idol]

I don't think the US supplies will dry up. Or I should say, they won't be the first thing to dry up. I'm pretty sure the Eurocuck will be the first to blink when the heating bills come due and their insistence of funneling (and continuing to funnel) billions to Russia instead of invest in their own industry comes to bite them. Once the shivering shrivel-dicks in the EU turn the taps all the way back on - I give it another year, two tops - Ukraine's attempts to win against an enemy 10x its size will be pointless.

Not going to happen. For starters energy prices in Europe have come down a lot and are even lower than before 2022. Does that mean everything is sunshine and rainbows? No it doesn't. Inflation and supply chain disruption are still strangling economies and every country has it's own problems, Brexit for example. I really don't know how people can (rightly) point out that the heavy sanctions against Russia won't collapse the nation anytime soon but then circle jerk over a cold winter brining the whole continent to it's knees. Industrial economies have a lot of tricks up their sleeves to keep the lights on and people in work.

Non of this even matters because the political will for this war is still high. Nations like Germany have been the most skittish about the war but even they've sent billions of €'s in both humanitarian aid, weapons and logistical support. And that's just one country, the Poles, Baltics, Brits, etc all are emptying stocks and providing services that are vital to Ukraine's ability to fight on.

If this war has proven anything it's that Russia can not reliability bring it's numerical advantage to the battlefield. Systems like HIMARS have hammered Russian depots and logistical chain forcing the Russian's to move their support elements further behind their lines (out of range) making these largely static artillery battles (that have become common) that much harder for the Russians to fight.

HIMARS is considered fairly old tech but it will be selling units for the next 30 years based on rofflestomping the russians.

It's amazing how shit like F-16 and HIMARS are basically 25th century as far as the rest of the world is concerned. Really make you wonder if they really do have ET locked up in a basement somewhere.