Off-Topic Troon sightings in the wild

M-to-F people also need
Men can get mammary tumors (rarely) and I'd imagine overdosing on estrogen probably increases whatever baseline risk exists for any given guy so it's at least a theoretical risk
And m-to-f people need to have prostate cancer screenings, because even the ones who have full "bottom" surgery have the prostate left in place, to preserve urinary control, and also sexual response.

M-to-F people also need
Men can get mammary tumors (rarely) and I'd imagine overdosing on estrogen probably increases whatever baseline risk exists for any given guy so it's at least a theoretical risk
And m-to-f people need to have prostate cancer screenings, because even the ones who have full "bottom" surgery have the prostate left in place, to preserve urinary control, and also sexual response.

Men can get mammary tumors (rarely) and I'd imagine overdosing on estrogen probably increases whatever baseline risk exists for any given guy so it's at least a theoretical risk
And m-to-f people need to have prostate cancer screenings, because even the ones who have full "bottom" surgery have the prostate left in place, to preserve urinary control, and also sexual response.
Original KISS drummer Peter Criss and actor Richard Roundtree are also survivors of male breast cancer. Like most men, they did not know the disease existed until they were diagnosed with it.

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There is a repeating sighting, can't tell if he's a troon or just a really effeminate gay black guy. Ran into him in Dunk's 2-3 times, once in Publix and spotted him crossing the street in the same area. Quiet and inoffensive, but wears brightly colored mesh tank tops and short shorts, walks with this unmistakable butt-out, side-swing gait that you can see from a mile away.

Another tranny-in-waiting. This creepy old man who used to volunteer at my work (emphasis on "used to") has recently come out with his "love" of wearing women's clothes, complete with a Facebook post of him in a ladies blue swimsuit bottom.
He still claims to be a "straight man" but I'm wondering how long it is until he decides that "he" is actually a lesbian.
Will update if he comes out lol.

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KF has been fucking up for awhile... It happens...
 
The only troons I see are at this nice grocery store near a university in my city. There is a guy who is absolutely huge, and would probably be decently attractive if he didn't troon out. 6'5" at least, slightly overweight, but very much a receding hairline. I see this guy all the time, always wearing this stupid yellow sundress with a flower pattern, no matter the weather. Completely oblivious that the actual women in the store are wearing coats and hats in November, this guy is still towering over the poor female cashiers in his dress.

There's occasionally a FtM, but they don't really stand out. There is one I see sometimes who seems to be trying really hard to pass, which is difficult because she is about five feet tall and dresses like an 11 year old.
 
I remembered another troon encounter, this one from some months ago.

Premise: my sister works in an artistic field and she was sort of acquainted with a young woman, a 20-something illustrator with some talent. Typical goth girl, dresses sort of androgynous, is a lesbian but not your stereotypical aesthetically challenged one. Coof 19 arrives, she troons out (I wasn't surprised at all, but it made me sad). Now she is dressing and painting herself to look like Coppola's Dracula (the Castlevania one is also a good match), or an Aldi discount version of Johnny Depp. In the photos she takes of herself she passes pretty well, she is also somewhat tall for a woman and with sharp features so that helps. But those photos (like most troon photos) are also highly strategic and taken by someone who knows how to employ visual tricks. When she films herself, the voice that comes out of her mouth sounds edited to Darth Vader hell, so I already knew she had to have that typical croaky TiF voice.

September comes, there is a small comics convention where she has a stand, while I was there because my sister had one too, so I got to see her irl. And well, whatever illusion she had evoked with her carefully edited photos got destroyed by reality. For starters, she had a 'woman with a cough' voice. But the most striking thing to me (I am a bit artistically trained too) is that for a man all her proportions were off. No man would have those weird proportions (small hands and feet, relatively short arms, bones way too slight even for a slim man); it all makes perfect sense for a woman on 'T' however. Her forehead was already betraying the advancing Norwood (seriously, what causes so many TiFs to speedrun balding? She has long hair so it must particularly suck to lose all that forehead coverage) and the other thing that gets overlooked in photos but is uncanny in reality is the SKIN. I swear TiF skin on testosterone combines the worst of male and female skin. It is both thin and deeply wrinkled, and very red-vascular but thin as paper.
Overall, it was a very uncanny effect, and not in a good way.

The next time you see a decently passable TiF in photos or videos, remember: it's not so passable in person.
 
I remembered another troon encounter, this one from some months ago.

Premise: my sister works in an artistic field and she was sort of acquainted with a young woman, a 20-something illustrator with some talent. Typical goth girl, dresses sort of androgynous, is a lesbian but not your stereotypical aesthetically challenged one. Coof 19 arrives, she troons out (I wasn't surprised at all, but it made me sad). Now she is dressing and painting herself to look like Coppola's Dracula (the Castlevania one is also a good match), or an Aldi discount version of Johnny Depp. In the photos she takes of herself she passes pretty well, she is also somewhat tall for a woman and with sharp features so that helps. But those photos (like most troon photos) are also highly strategic and taken by someone who knows how to employ visual tricks. When she films herself, the voice that comes out of her mouth sounds edited to Darth Vader hell, so I already knew she had to have that typical croaky TiF voice.

September comes, there is a small comics convention where she has a stand, while I was there because my sister had one too, so I got to see her irl. And well, whatever illusion she had evoked with her carefully edited photos got destroyed by reality. For starters, she had a 'woman with a cough' voice. But the most striking thing to me (I am a bit artistically trained too) is that for a man all her proportions were off. No man would have those weird proportions (small hands and feet, relatively short arms, bones way too slight even for a slim man); it all makes perfect sense for a woman on 'T' however. Her forehead was already betraying the advancing Norwood (seriously, what causes so many TiFs to speedrun balding? She has long hair so it must particularly suck to lose all that forehead coverage) and the other thing that gets overlooked in photos but is uncanny in reality is the SKIN. I swear TiF skin on testosterone combines the worst of male and female skin. It is both thin and deeply wrinkled, and very red-vascular but thin as paper.
Overall, it was a very uncanny effect, and not in a good way.

The next time you see a decently passable TiF in photos or videos, remember: it's not so passable in person.
There used to a FTM that would come into my old job occasionally, and I never would of known until a co-worker mentioned it to me. They're rare, but they exist. Didn't hurt that they could probably easily bench press me, though.
 
There used to a FTM that would come into my old job occasionally, and I never would of known until a co-worker mentioned it to me. They're rare, but they exist. Didn't hurt that they could probably easily bench press me, though.

Some TiFs (a minority) can pass very well, especially if they go full gym bunny, but I think I would be able to clock the best-passing cases in person, at least after a while. It also helps that I'm a detroon (well, a desister) and observantly autistic where I want to be so I know exactly where to look at. For starters, the sussiest hints are not in simple measurements but ratios. There are body ratios the female body cannot achieve and vice-versa, no matter how boyish-bodied the woman was. Another big thing that's useful to spot TiFs is the eyes, not only because they have less deep orbits, but because their stare is...female.
You understand there is no male behind those eyes when you stare into them.
Again, photos and videos can conceal a lot, but real life presence cannot be faked nearly to the same extent, especially after prolonged exposure to troons in general and to that specific troon.
Which is why troons luvv the net.
 
Clocked this one yesterday instantly. It was the flashing gamer cat headphones that caught my eye, before looking at his outfit sealed the deal. He had a cis female friend with him who dressed nothing like this. I caught his voice too and it was very masculine.

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This one is pretty minor but the greeter at my Walmart. MTF, though he basically puts zero effort in and just changed his name and wears a tranny pin. I do remember when he was still normal, that's how long he's been working there. What's strange is that he's not really that repulsive, does his job, doesn't harass people, and is pretty high up the ladder on his own merit as far as I can tell. Maybe it was just a " fuck you dad!" kind of thing that he never really ditched.
 
Clocked this one yesterday instantly. It was the flashing gamer cat headphones that caught my eye, before looking at his outfit sealed the deal. He had a cis female friend with him who dressed nothing like this. I caught his voice too and it was very masculine.

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I didn't know troons came in reverse joint models. 🤔

Maybe it's just that due to the low carrying capacity of the design, the usual female identifying blobule core design requires a more sturdy base, such as tank legs.
 
My fiancé committed the grave sin of misgendering a TIM a few days ago when we were checking into a hotel. I couldn’t tell at first whether it was actually a troon or just a man with long hair, but as I looked closer the feminine jewelry gave it away. Then the TIM informed us of some minor problem with the reservation, to which my fiancé replied “it’s all good, dude!”

He immediately realized his mistake and we both froze, preparing for a full blown “it’s ma’am!!!” meltdown. Fortunately we were spared, but the tune of the conversation definitely changed after that. Later my fiancé said “at least he was cool about it,” but I’m sure a dysphoria rage fit ensued somewhere on the Internet.
 
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I thought I saw a F-to-M yesterday, at first glance, and then realized that this was a man who had Williams Syndrome. They have a very distinctive "elfin" facies, along with various mental and physical disabilities. This very friendly man bagged my groceries, and yeah, I thought he was a former female even though he was probably about 6 feet tall, which is unusual for people with WS. Maybe he had extremely tall parents, IDK.

When I saw his nametag, I realized that he's a bit of a public figure in town, because he's a local ambassador for the Special Olympics.
 
Saw one in a Scotia Bank two days ago. This person had on white jeans and had non existent hips and was no less than 6'0. This made me immediately suspicious and that's just what they looked like from behind. When I saw the face it was a done deal, A man 100%. I thought his hair was in dreads for a minute but I looked closer and it was literally a matted blonde wig.
Jesus Christ, they're always so sloppy.

He walked away with a coach purse that looked like it was 100 years old with rips and tears all over it and a torn handle.

I don't understand these guys. Troon out if you want too, it's your fucking life. But why do they always look like they raided their dead grandmothers closet?
 
Saw one in a Scotia Bank two days ago. This person had on white jeans and had non existent hips and was no less than 6'0. This made me immediately suspicious and that's just what they looked like from behind. When I saw the face it was a done deal, A man 100%. I thought his hair was in dreads for a minute but I looked closer and it was literally a matted blonde wig.
Jesus Christ, they're always so sloppy.

He walked away with a coach purse that looked like it was 100 years old with rips and tears all over it and a torn handle.

I don't understand these guys. Troon out if you want too, it's your fucking life. But why do they always look like they raided their dead grandmothers closet?
Maybe they were headed to a costume party? Stranger things have happened.
 
Clocked this one yesterday instantly. It was the flashing gamer cat headphones that caught my eye, before looking at his outfit sealed the deal. He had a cis female friend with him who dressed nothing like this. I caught his voice too and it was very masculine.

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That is what happens when someone's life is so devoid of any meaning that all they have to live for is to chase a shallow fantasy; there are no girls around that match his fantasy, and certainly not any that are interested in some generic nerdy looking guy, so he decided to make the fantasy a reality the only way that he could.
 
Ok I've got one for you all. New Year's Party, typical fare.

With very little time left in the night, enter la creatura, with the countenance of catering staff slinking into an event or mom's kid quietly returning home during her weekly book club.

Once finally bold enough, I guess, to enter the room for appraisal by people who do not know him, it's not a hopeful sight. Six foot two, hair is just vaguely wet from grease that's never been washed out, one earring, women's glasses on a doughy face that says "virgin" so much louder than "female," no attempt at voice training, no apparent effects of HRT. For PL's sake you could assume the two people in the room who knew what he wanted to be called referred to him by something as cliche and clockable as "Luna."

Aside from the inherent offense of the intersection of his self identification and presentation, he was well behaved, save for a "fun" interlude in which he insisted on defining biphobia for us and asserting that we all explore the possibility of being gay. What actually stood out to me was the way he seemed to know his place- he was the party eunuch. His entire role was to be everyone's bitch. You would get the feeling he could walk up and slap your girlfriend on the ass and you wouldn't even do anything about it because retaliating would still somehow be beneath you, like pulling a gun on a dog that shit on a carpet.
 
to briefly touch back on the subject of posting creep shots ITT - I don't really care, but if I can identify the location you've photographed, then some psychotic troon can too. and if you've power-levelled enough all over the farms that I also know you're an fat chick who's into pokemon and likes ugly blue sneakers, has menstrual issues that mean you occasionally bleed all over public transport, and that you catch the same public transport options at least five days out of the week, then so can some psychotic troon. and some psychotic troon is exactly the type who has the obsessive stamina required to go wait at that public location long enough for a fat chick in blue sneakers and a pokemon backpack to waddle by. so creep shot all you want, but a little circumspection on what other information you're sharing at the same time may be warranted, considering we all know what psychotic troons are capable of.

close encounters of the troony kind have been rampant for me lately in this cesspool of trendy urban liblitists amongst which I dwell.

went to a 'queer' dance party a few weeks ago. I left the cult a couple of years ago now but there's still a lot to be said for going into a queer environment when you're a female who wants to dance in skimpy clothing without being bothered by males.

and who should I see there, his bloated, overstuffed bod strapped uncomfortably into whispy black lingerie that did absolutely nothing for him other than emphasise he is a human fridge? none other than Jordan fucking Raskopoulos. don't let the google image result search fool you; this ugly troon has full-time tard face going on when not posing for the camera. his expression resembled that of a toad that is aware all the other toads hate him and think he smells. he was sporting a pair of absolutely gigantic and disturbingly buoyant tits, bringing to mind Cartman from the recent Streaming Wars storyline. I didn't want to stare at him too long and give him even a shred of narc supply so I couldn't determine if they were augemented or just held aloft by his gunt, but I bet he's really fucking proud of them.

he was alone for the first little while I was there and I observed pretty quickly he was lurking quite close to me and rather openly staring with the dull, squat glare of the incompetent predator. I knew why - considering the rest of the crowd was composed of gay males, troons, and charmless fat chicks. I know what the stare of the resentful, jealous, covetous AGP troon feels like so I made sure to flaunt my 100% natural femaleness in front of him, secure in the knowledge that I was way too confident for him to even brush close by me. my friends - normie girls with no real ties to the cult who were there for the same reason I was - wanted to know why I was laughing on the dance floor for no obvious reason.

later in the night he was joined by a cross-dressing desi pervert by the name of Jehan Kanga who has worked the 'QTPOC' grift to escape accountability for being a domestic abuser and rapist of his female partners (always mentally unwell overweight white girls claiming 'queer non binary' status to compensate for non-existent personalities), despite being a bog standard heterosexual male who gets a kick out of wearing women's clothing. this guy makes Alok Vaid Menon look hot. that night he was in the typical AGP pedo uniform of extremely unflattering pink satin frilly lingerie of the adult baby aesthetic. the two of them together were a fright, like caricatures from a low budget slasher.

later that same night I was taking a rest spell on the couches when a tranny lurched up out of the smokey shadows and plonked himself down beside me. after a moment I realised it was a tranny I knew and have a bit of a soft spot for. for a moment, given the abruptness of his appearance, I thought he had maybe heard somehow I was a terf now and was planning to confront me. I've kept it on the hush, but you just never know who's scrutinising your failure to declare JK Rowling the new Hitler in the cult. but no, he was actually genuinely happy to see me (after a couple of years) and wanted to tell me, in his highly drug-addled state, that my kindness to him had meant a lot to him back in the early days of his transition, when I was still a cultist myself. this encounter left me with a strange mix of feelings. I have really come to hate trannies in general, both male and female, but this particular person is one of the better ones. he holds down a stable job, having successfully completed his university qualification. he's a gentle and easy to get along with soul who (as far as I know, things may have changed) doesn't go around abusing and harassing women, or anyone else, for not swearing alleigance to the cult. he's pretty low key and has a good heart. it was shocking to see how he'd changed and how bad he looks now after a few years on cross-sex hormones. he's a taller person and had always been lanky in the past, with a fairly attractive face - could've been an extremely pretty fem boy if he hadn't been captured. now he has a huge gut and looks generally as though he's melting. I felt sad for him, but he seemed happy enough. I also felt like a lying cow, hiding the fact I no longer buy into his delusions. it was an odd moment. I can still remember when I bumped into him the last time and he was dating a TIF - a tiny little asian gnome - and told me very ostentatiously that he'd discovered he wasn't a lesbian after all, he was dating a man now.

well nowadays he has an older female partner; one of the sad, desperately earnest "bisexual" types who so keenly chase their 'queer' cachet through inexplicable dating choices. there is a type of female who populates queer spaces - attractive, slim, decent personality - whose potential is seriously disrupted by their eagerness to be 'kind' and 'good', meaning they're in ever-rotating relationships with whatever lame duck most plucks at their heart strings and poses no threat to them. these females are psychologically damaged, really heterosexual, and desirous of relationships where they feel in control, meaning their dating pool is mostly trannies and really sad dykes who don't like being touched. they were both high as a kite and the troon in particular was a sloppy mess. considering I was mostly sober and highly on guard for being accused of terfery, it was a pretty surreal experience.

I was sitting with a normie friend when the two approached us. a pacific islander woman who has extremely little experience with the alphabet mafia and basically none at all with troons. with zero malice or cruel intention, she referred to this troon I knew as a dude. despite his long hair, horse piss udders, women's clothing and overall feminised appearance - she knew he was male instantly and saw him as such. she was talking to his partner and I had to suppress laughter when I overheard her say "wait, aren't you straight?" . since this woman was there with a man, my friend's logical conclusion was that it was a heterosexual relationship. whether or not the 'dude' was in women's clothing. the troon's partner was like 'oh my god, no darling!' along with a laugh. it really helps to be an oblivious straight person in these spaces - it's impossible to be hostile to someone who clearly is sincere and bears no ill will - particular if they are 'of colour' and you operate from woke principles. my friend can blurt the truth out and they will all be tolerant and patient, despite the disruption to the narrative her innocent honesty causes. none of the troons there fooled her - to her, they were just men in women's clothing. again, there was ZERO malice or cruelty behind this. she just spoke the truth as she observed it, with the candour typical of islander culture. she was perfectly happy to accept them as men who like wearing women's clothing, but I realised she knew basically nothing about trannyism and had no sense at all that speaking the truth could be considered offensive to anyone. cue me once again cackling on the dance floor to my friends' confusion.

walking around my neighbourhood the other day, I passed a trendy little bar outside of which a tattooed, pierced TIF staff member was unpacking chairs. the stench of body odour that wafted off her and hit me full in the face was a good reminder to always hold my breath when passing troons, even if they are female. a lot of TIFs seem to take an odd pride in bad hygiene, like it makes them more masculine somehow to reek enough to make a girl's nostril hairs curl.

I had a run in with a TIM in my building as well, one I was going to write up quite extensively, but the inspiration has passed. a classic Prader-Willi subtype with the toad body, humpback and gap between the front teeth wide enough to park a cadillac in. I've seen him leave in full "female" garb a number of times, clearing heading to some gross BDSM party, occasionally with a couple of Dominatrix types he's almost certainly paying for in tow. but that day he was in 'boy mode' I guess, apart from his hideously badly done acrylic nails. because he was moving out.

in the process of moving out, he kept leaving the security door to the building propped open for long periods of time while he was back upstairs in his apartment packing things up. the security door exists for a reason. obviously if you are moving furniture from the lobby to your vehicle outside, you're going to have it propped open. but if you're disappearing backupstairs for five+ minutes at a time, common courtesy suggests closing the security door again for the best interests of other residents. I noticed it being left unattended as I went in out and out of the building doing my chores and spoke to him and the movers he'd hired - clearly the cheapest, and therefore lowest accountability option he could find, a couple of south american immigrants who barely spoke english and had no kind of branding on their clothing or truck - about how it was a security risk and to please shut the door if they knew they'd be going back upstairs for more than a couple of minutes. sure, it means you have to open it again when you bring a bunch of shit down on the elevator, but you're not the only person living in the building and the security door IS THERE FOR A REASON. ten seconds of mild inconvenience surely isn't too much to ask for right?

you already know it was. and a bunch of mail was stolen from the lobby during one of their long trips back upstairs. I confronted the troon about it and of course all he could say was that it was too inconvenient to him to close the door when he went back upstairs, no matter how long he was going back up for. just a typical self-centered, narcissist, selfish troon doing what they do: ruining it for everyone. in every encounter like this I am left taking whatever satisfaction I can in being the skinny blonde white woman they all wish they could be and rubbing it in their faces with my mere presence. but damn I was mad as hell that day. I truly wish I had said 'you will never be a woman' to his face. but at least that ugly fucker has to wake up every day and look at himself in the mirror. sometimes reality is its own punishment.
 
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you already know it was. and a bunch of mail was stolen from the lobby during one of their long trips back upstairs.
People really rushed in and stole all the mail from your apartment lobby because someone left the security door open for a bit??

Was it all of it? Or selective? Was there anything valuable lost? Is this sort of thing guaranteed to happen if someone leaves the door open, or was it just bad luck?

Also, I noticed that you were seething for like 1,000+ words, but you never actually described doing anything to materially push back at or ostracise a troon. Just acted polite then seethed internally later. This is why women will always lose to men. Troons on the other hand immediately resort to violence and confrontation, which are much more effective.
 
People really rushed in and stole all the mail from your apartment lobby because someone left the security door open for a bit??

Was it all of it? Or selective? Was there anything valuable lost? Is this sort of thing guaranteed to happen if someone leaves the door open, or was it just bad luck?

Also, I noticed that you were seething for like 1,000+ words, but you never actually described doing anything to materially push back at or ostracise a troon. Just acted polite then seethed internally later. This is why women will always lose to men. Troons on the other hand immediately resort to violence and confrontation, which are much more effective.

I mean, I state pretty clearly that I confronted him and he dodged accountability. imagine feeling so ineffectual and powerless in your hatred of women you just automatically take the troon’s side. the pipeline awaits.

but given your point that troons are violent and aggressive…why would I push back on or try and ostracise a troon when I’m a lone female confronting a larger male in an isolated area?

I realise you’re embarrassed about your messy power levelling, but you literally provided the explanation to your own question in trying to pwn me. but go on, keep blaming women for everything, I’m sure it cheers you up when you’re wondering why none of us will touch you. or, if you’re a faggot, why straight men won’t. I’ll wait with bated breath for the next thrilling confrontation you have with a troon where you very definitely stand up to him all by yourself causing him to 41% on the spot while everyone applauds. lol some of you get so pissy about a negrating on kiwifarms and it shows.
 
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