Manosphere Andrew Tate / Top G / Cobratate - Egotistical MRA "influencer", arrested for trafficking in Romania, lied about having lung cancer

Story time.

circa 20 years ago, my monstrous ex got into “business” in Romania offering “overseas work placements”. This involved showing young Romanian women completely fictional job offer paperwork, getting them over here to Britbongistan, taking them from the airport not to the promised hotel but a “shared apartment”, relieving them of their passports and other possessions, and putting them on the game in the “shared apartment”, which remains the favoured way to run a brothel here.

Fairly quickly, he ended up owing money to his Romanian connections. It wasn’t a lot of money, two grand or so, so they only shot him in one knee when they terminated their business arrangement. I heard eventually that he manages to get around with a walking stick after a couple surgeries. Lives off benefits and low level scams now.

The real outcome for Tate depends on who in Romania he owes money to, and how much, now that he’s in no position to be making the repayments. The Romanian mafia don’t fuck around, and the Romanian coppers don’t get involved in strictly business matters. But he didn’t run a sex business in Romania without paying his dues to someone. If the cops have seized the cars, that’s his most easily liquidated asset gone, too.
 
The fact that he's admitted several times on tape to luring women overseas with the promise of a relationship only to take away their passports, and force them to whore themselves out
Can you share one example? Never heard him admit anything beyond bribing police, working with mafia and scamming people for money within the bounds of the law.

It wouldn't surprise me, just haven't heard him say it. Did you hear someone say he said it or did you actually hear him say it?

Story time.

circa 20 years ago, my monstrous ex got into “business” in Romania offering “overseas work placements”. This involved showing young Romanian women completely fictional job offer paperwork, getting them over here to Britbongistan, taking them from the airport not to the promised hotel but a “shared apartment”, relieving them of their passports and other possessions, and putting them on the game in the “shared apartment”, which remains the favoured way to run a brothel here.

Fairly quickly, he ended up owing money to his Romanian connections. It wasn’t a lot of money, two grand or so, so they only shot him in one knee when they terminated their business arrangement. I heard eventually that he manages to get around with a walking stick after a couple surgeries. Lives off benefits and low level scams now.

The real outcome for Tate depends on who in Romania he owes money to, and how much, now that he’s in no position to be making the repayments. The Romanian mafia don’t fuck around, and the Romanian coppers don’t get involved in strictly business matters. But he didn’t run a sex business in Romania without paying his dues to someone. If the cops have seized the cars, that’s his most easily liquidated asset gone, too.
He's got a large enough hungry audience for his every word that he can sell anything to pay off anything. If they pay a subscription for a discord server, they'll certainly pay for whatever he sells next. He might not be at Elon's level where he can do a phonecall and get billions in loan, but I'm sure he can get plenty of petty cash to deal with such matters.
 
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Can you share one example? Never heard him admit anything beyond bribing police, working with mafia and scamming people for money within the bounds of tbe law.

It wouldn't surprise me, just haven't heard him say it.
Watch the video posted literally three pages back, dude. Or this one, which sums it all up in less than three minutes.
 
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The Romanian lawyer guy is now saying Tate's cars and property have been seized. Apparently he brought his Bugatti back to Romania, so it was also seized.
The caveat is that this is only Stefan Loredan's word and I can't find any articles confirming the seizure.

Apparently even a newspaper as venerable as The Times of London is a clusterfuck of half-truths and falsehoods:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/andrew-tate-ukrainian-refugee-human-trafficking-romania-g3l087bvq (archive to bypass paywall)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/young-british-men-are-lured-to-andrew-tates-porn-empire-5kgnn3r5v(archive to bypass paywall)
Here's the thing. It's trivial but I still find it strange the media are doubling down on the claim Georgiana Naghel is Andrew Tate's girlfriend. There are several reasons why this probably isn't true, aside from the fact she and the Tates have always referred to her as their personal assistant. 1) Tate has systematically stated he keeps his serious relationships private, but Georgiana is someone he openly featured in multiple Instagram posts (back before he was banned). 2) The Tate brothers don't share women, but their behaviour towards Georgiana seems inconsistent with this. Tristan Tate made a video a month or so ago where he gifted Georgiana a Rolex. There's another video showing him chasing her around their compound in Romania. This is not the kind of behaviour he would engage in with his brother's girlfriend.

Also, why the fuck is the Times referring to his home as "Hustler's University"? Might it be because some fanboys were trolling on Google Maps, and these journalists are so fucking dumb they take it literally, or is it just an excuse to print bullshit?
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So now hes got a small peepee and no bugattis
 
Watch the video posted literally three pages back, dude. Or this one, which features him doing it even more.
Cheers! Thanks.
This is tax evasion.

However him controlling the contacts to the john's is not exactly the same as taking her passport.

I watched the other video. He offered it to 5 girls. 3 declined and left. Doesn't sound like he took their passport or forced them at all.

His strategy wasn't to keep them against their will, his strategy was to make them want to stay.

His mention of taking the passport is unsubstantiated by evidence. The lawyer talks about it, but he doesn't support it with evidence. Which is telling because he supports every other thing with evidence. So the taking of passports is still an unsubdtantiated claim.
 
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I watched the other video. He offered it to 5 girls. 3 declined and left. Doesn't sound like he took their passport or forced them at all.

His strategy wasn't to keep them against their will, his strategy was to make them want to stay.

His mention of taking the passport is unsubstantiated by evidence. The lawyer talks about it, but he doesn't support it with evidence. Which is telling because he supports every other thing with evidence. So the taking of passports is still an unsubdtantiated claim.
I don't know dude, that particular boast was about when he first started, and that was years ago. Things could've changed since. Also, even still, it's not like he was treating them particularly well, as he boasted to have "fired" a girl by dumping her stuff out.

It's in my attempt at an OP, here https://kiwifarms.net/threads/andrew-tate-top-g-cobratate.127428/post-12754582
More like another scammer off the streets.
That is true, but one of them is a Thunberg W. The other is for all of us.
 
The first vid is already gone. Read the sticky about making OP's. Archive everything. Actually rip the videos, and upload them.

Practically all videos are gone.

I don't know dude, that particular boast was about when he first started, and that was years ago. Things could've changed since. Also, even still, it's not like he was treating them particularly well, as he boasted to have "fired" a girl by dumping her stuff out.
I'm not saying I know it didn't happen. I'm saying I have seen no evidence of him holding their passports. The only supporting evidence of that is the previous arrest with the american girl who claimed to have been kidnapped/held against her will, and there is video evidence of her leaving the building to get pizza that was ordered without being escorted and going back into the house.

If someone pukes in my house and then refuses to clean it up in a belligerent way, I might get their stuff and throw it out too. That isn't treating people badly, that is basic self respect. It's assuming he told the truth, but again, no evidence of forcing women against their will.
 
Classic Thunberg W
Another gas-guzzling polluter off the road!
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>tfw carbonpilled fuelcel.
 
The first vid is already gone. Read the sticky about making OP's. Archive everything. Actually rip the videos, and upload them.

Practically all videos are gone.
Whoops. First OP from me, as a dude with a 2 week old account at the time. My bad. But you do see the youtube link to Fresh and Fit where he boasts about the firing, no?
If someone pukes in my house and then refuses to clean it up in a belligerent way, I might get their stuff and throw it out too. That isn't treating people badly, that is basic self respect. It's assuming he told the truth, but again, no evidence of forcing women against their will.
I believe it was stated that the dispute was over compensation. Besides, we've only heard Tate's side of those stories, as far as I can tell.
 
I mentioned way earlier in this thread that the Official Podcast had an episode with Tate and I wanted to dissect it a bit more. People in the thread have mentioned that if he was in hiding, he did a shit job since he would post about being in Romania. Plus, in the video I have linked, he mentions living in Eastern Europe and Romania so it's an open secret, I suppose.
I don’t believe the pizza box story is real when he’s previously has been posting tweets about being in Romania and showing off his castle. Just seems more like a happenstance when all police would have to do is ask twitter for his ip and showing off where he is. He’s not Bin Laden trying to hide from the CIA.

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Don't want to be a killjoy, but for anyone just joining in on this, the whole story about pizza box dox is kinda bullshit.

Andrew is still a faggot, Greta is still a whiny bitch. Welcome to 2023.

Early apologies if this shit is word soup, so I'll bullet point shit to the best of my abilities and try to keep it centered on Tate, the subject of the thread. I did some further digging and IMDB says this was uploaded on the 26th of October, 2017, so keep that in mind.

  • Tate is asked if he has ever been threatened over the internet for someone to come beat his ass and he mentioned that he has an old dox out there that is '6 years out of date', and he got messages 'at least 5 times a day'.
  • He mentions how he would interact with people like this daily and says that his Twitter inbox has 'got to be one of the most entertaining'. He also said that he used to screencap his dm's until people obvious realized that they could bust his balls and he would for sure respond back, so he ultimately stopped doing it. The biggest reason being he would add people who would suck his cock and praise him, then hit Tate with the lol just kidding you suck faggot.
  • He got into several slapfights over the internet mocking him for his lifestyle and general dickheadishness. Nevertheless, this caused him to be banned from Twitter on several occassions.
  • Tate got into a internet cage fight with J.K Rowling over Twitter about depression. He calls Rowling a 'billionaire with a shit story about a dude, a fucking wizard'. This is relevant because immediately after this, Tate mentions the last time he had read a book, he was in a jail cell for 12 hours because the police raided his house. Story goes as follow, Tate had a girl in his apartment and the police came a knocking. When he was being arrested, he told them to get the girl out of his place which made them reasonably suspicious. They threw his ass in a cell while they searched his place. Tate says they raided his place for money laundering and or fraud. Allegedly his lawyer (or probably Tate, let's be real) said he was in kahoots with or knew someone dodgy. The police also pinned an unpaid bill to his front door just to fuck with him.
  • He outright says he lives in Eastern Europe and he hangs with his brother cruising around with lambos driving to parties full of girls. Tate said at times he's thought about going to London with his brother and tweeting his location to see who shows up. He wanted to fuck with feminists at rallies but said he would go with his brother in case shit went down. Afterward, he goes on to say 'If these feminists get too militant, it's gonna be one hell of a viral video. Kickboxing world champion versus 100 angry females.'
  • He calls all fighters 'braindead retards', himself included. For once, Tate was telling the truth.
  • He specifically made his Twitter account after Trump was elected because he wanted to fuck with people who have TDS. He calls Trump one of his heroes and also met Trump Jr. in New York.
  • He states that when he was younger, he was training to be a pro chess player for 3 to 4 hours a day and became a state champion at one point. His father taught him how to play since Tate's dad was a pro chess player as well but when he moved to England when he was 11, his dad stayed in the US. Tate doesn't elaborate further on this point, so if there is more info about his dad that isn't speculative, I can't say for sure.
  • He tells a story about how him and his brother Tristan got into a scrap with some Australian guys in Thailand. Tristan apparently broke a guy's jaw. Once again, Tate doesn't elaborate further on that story.
  • Tate is asked if there was anything that truly ever upset him or got too personal, his reply is that he is 'ultra-resilient to being upset in general', the reason being is that 'for someone's opinion to bother you, or if someone is to say something that bothers you, it means you respect their opinion and I'm extremely good at not respecting other people.' He says that people have tried pissing him off by dragging on his dad being dead and 'people have tried everything and I've never been upset by a tweet ever. I'm the absolute conclusive proof that cyberbullying isn't real because people are trying and it doesn't work.' Greta Thunberg clearly didn't see through the Hustler's smoke and mirrors.
  • He says that the internet is a 'massive outlet for people who are unhappy in their current situations and they want to pretend to be something they aren't' and 'if you are gonna start taking Twitter seriously, you're gonna have a really hard existence.' Some real foreshadowing from the Top G himself.
  • He says Eastern Europe is perfect and he lives in Romania. Everything he wants is in arms reach, but none of the bullshit that Americans deal with like politically correct language. He believes that living in Romania is better than anywhere else on the globe. He mentions knowing a couple mob bosses out there and said 'they've got legitimate businesses, most of them.' Quick tidbit that may be irrelevant but he also said that, at the time, he only owned 1 lambo for 11 months and it was a quarter of a million plus 1 aston martin. He rents some of his cars but actually owns some of them. Granted this was about 5 years ago so do with that knowledge what you will.
  • Tate knew a guy who told him bitcoin was gonna blow big and he basically got lucky and bought a huge stock in bitcoin in 2013 with some of his fighting money. If you don't believe Tate lives in Romania, when he was asked where he heard about bitcoin so early on, it was because he lived or was around Bucharest which is far ahead of most other areas of Romania. He says that Romania has a lot of cam studios for girls and that they are pretty and broke so they are part of the equation. This is how a lot of business is done in Romania and he knows several guys who run these studios.
  • And finally to sum it up, Tate encourages people to find his Twitter and make a nice, well-thought out message to change his ways, if you can, then says he won't read it or care. The word from Top G himself is as follows, 'If anyone's words are potent enough to change the way I approach the world, then you deserve the results you get but I don't think it's gonna turn out in your favor.'
TLDR; Tate has stated in 2017 that he has lived in Romania and he has been in trouble with the police before.
 
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