Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

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IMO border and land disputes ought to be resolved by people who live there and have the will to defend them, not some international coalitions. I don't like this Wilsonian worldpolicemanship for artificial countries too weak to uphold their rights - I'm afraid it's less goodwill and more a want to have your neighbors divided and turned on each other.

If Poland doesn't want LGBTXYZ then tell USA to fuck off and start fighting your own battles. We stopped being a Soviet bitch only to immediately bitch ourselves out to Yankees. US soldiers have more rights and presence in Poland than Russian soldats had in the commie era. Can the Polish government explain to me whan "independence" means? There's as much freedom for Poles with such a deal as it is with choosing the colour of your Fort T.

Glenn Greenwald is a pariah for both left and right. He also likes animals which for me is a codeword for "hates people" and I symphatize with that. Zelensky's quarell with Israel amounted to "give me more stuff for free" and he only gets away with it 'cause he's a media darling.

Don't you find it strange that pro-Ukraine ads were shown in places like Times Square i.e. the most expensive fucking advertisement spaces on the planet? Who paid for that?
It's a legitimate worldview, but it's not realistic for smaller countries, which inevitably need allies and have to play empires against another. For example, Romanian principalities would likely still be under Islamic rule if not for the Russian-Ottoman rivalry. Not because they were cowardly, history has noticed the endless, bitter fighting between various Romanian precursor tribes like Moldavians and Vlachs vs Turks, but the eventual outcome, even with some big victories for the much smaller, worst equipped Romanians was to yet again succumb to some nearby empire. This is a good lesson to learn, as there were at least 4 imperial powers nearby, Austria-Hungary/Habsburgs/whatever, Ottomans, Poles and Russians. To achieve a recognized nation, Romanian tribes had to fight with the Russians, which were not friends and fought with Poland for influence over Moldova. It had to side with the Nazis later to take back land from the same Russians. And then to assure survival, it had to turn weapons against the Axis and fight with the Russians deep into the heart of Czechoslovakia at immense human cost - but a price in blood had to be paid to wash away the sin of siding with the losers at the start of WW2. The same machinations are found in WW1, characterized by an autistic determination to create a nation state for the ethnic group, and siding with the devil until you cross the river.
There is no other way to keep smaller, largely ethnic states alive. You can be courageous as much as you want, but the bigger fish will swallow you.
The US is the ideal bigger fish for East Europe, as it's far away and its threat is minimal to the nation state. An ethnic nation state can endure communism, fascism, liberalism and progressivism, but what it cannot endure is occupation and annexation.
To make things worse, for nations that are quite poor, there is no way to build modern armies at the needed size either. If a ruler would try that, the living standards would decrease below those of the commie era, because most of the investment would have to go in the army.
This is how I see things from a pragmatic viewpoint. Now this is less than ideal and I'd lose to have a super strong army to protect us from both faggotry and invasion, and living standards, and a lot of other things, but I know that won't happen.
The best solution against US/EU liberalism is to be like Hungary and "encourage" the US to become normal again, so we get a less progressive US empire that's less of a social threat. But to leave NATO or EU and become "independent" militarily is not a wise choice for East EU, it would be catastrophic. Another smart move is to simply delay applying the desires of Western NGOs and lie to them endlessly, in an attempt to buy time and hope some regime change will occur that won't push faggy stuff on us.
Things CAN change in the West. There's Meloni, Denmark, there's Austria who is seething against migration, Sweden Democrats etc. There is some hope.
But we have to be smart in the East and pursue our own interests, and national defense and integrity come first.
 
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BTW all of you that are interested in understanding the Soviet space, East Europe, communism's horrors and the disastrous transition to liberalism should watch Adam Curtis'
"Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone".
Sure it's long, dark and not a cheesy meme, but it might improve that cognitive function and prolong the attention span from tiktok video/4chin meme to something more.
If you're a Britbong it might be free, if not, either torrent or watch on Youtube (links might die from copyright and the sort). Movie is essentially descriptive and as apolitical as it can be, considering the subject matter.
You should also watch the other documentaries from Adam Curtis too.
 
You prompted me to check out the video and AFAIK it's some Greater Russia loon; could you point out where's the disinfo? I know Greater Poland loons who think Lithuana and Ukraine are Ancient Polish Lands belonging to the Polish People and other lolcowish shit. A lot of Ukrainian and Lithuanian land was historically Polish, though.
The western half of today's Poland is a historically German land that has been Polish for less than a hundred years. So fucking what? It ain't going back to Germany without a fight.
reading isn't your strongest point is it? Go back, read my post word by word please.
 
It's not propaganda, its the truth, and has already begun:

In the middle of a war, it is what they spend time on; this was a priority, not the war with Russia. Have you read Plato's Allegory of the Cave? You are seeing shadows and resent the person explaining the truth to you.
That's exactly why they passed this measure in the middle of a war rather than any other time. The LGBTQ+ stuff sells pretty well across a not-insignificant number of people in NATO countries.
 
If I weren't married I'd have thought about learning it and running off to join Azov, but then again I speak Arabic very well but ended up choosing a life of luxury over going to fight with the Lions of Rojava against ISIS.
Bro you shouldnt use your wife as an excuse not to go. Azov is waiting plus America really needs you to protect American rights and freedoms on Russian soil. Pack your shit and fly on the wings of destiny to Ukraine. Whats the worst thing that can happen? You dying an honorable death for the USA? Win. You coming back and discovering Tyrone smoking a doobie in your marital bed, getting head from your wifey while watching Dr Dre and Snoop Dog on national TV? Still a win for America. Plus the army pays so good it should still be enough for a race mixed bastard.
Just dont forget your vaccines bro. There is still a pandemic out there.
 
If Poland doesn't want LGBTXYZ then tell USA to fuck off and start fighting your own battles. We stopped being a Soviet bitch only to immediately bitch ourselves out to Yankees. US soldiers have more rights and presence in Poland than Russian soldats had in the commie era. Can the Polish government explain to me whan "independence" means? There's as much freedom for Poles with such a deal as it is with choosing the colour of your Fort T.
Oy Vey, the colonized know. @Badungus Kabungus has polluted your mind with too much Russian misinformation. Us honorable Americans would never act against your national sovereignty unless you buy natural gas from a source we don't sanction, in which case we will bomb your pipeline and blame it on Russia.
 
Russian oldier transitioned somewhere in Luhansk Oblast.

My rough translation of the note:
Honey, in the time I've been here, I've seen a lot of hell. There wasn't this much death in Chechnya, not even in Afghanistan. There's plenty of human meat. But that's not why I'm leaving.
Here, the russian people are nothing, and the Chechens rule. They're literally lawless, they attack, they fuck everybody up, but no one will do anything.
Ksyuha, they took all the money you sent, and they did something to me. So you know, I resisted. And remember that you and I don't owe anybody anything. That's for sure now.
Love [you], meet you on the other side.
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Jesus, why won't LDPRQ+ fags resist for once against their new masters?
 
Pretty crazy reading through a nearly 500 page thread on the Ukraine war and some people still are spouting the Mass Media "Democracy in the most corrupt nation in Europe is at stake! Zelensky is a War Hero!" lines. And if they get called out, they just fall back to "Putin Lover!" Like real life is Harry Potter vs the Death Eaters. Shits wild.
 
You prompted me to check out the video and AFAIK it's some Greater Russia loon; could you point out where's the disinfo? I know Greater Poland loons who think Lithuana and Ukraine are Ancient Polish Lands belonging to the Polish People and other lolcowish shit.
The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth would like a word.
 
Pretty crazy reading through a nearly 500 page thread on the Ukraine war and some people still are spouting the Mass Media "Democracy in the most corrupt nation in Europe is at stake! Zelensky is a War Hero!" lines. And if they get called out, they just fall back to "Putin Lover!" Like real life is Harry Potter vs the Death Eaters. Shits wild.
Lies and slander! Everyone knows Moldova is the most corrupt nation in Europe.
 
BTW all of you that are interested in understanding the Soviet space, East Europe, communism's horrors and the disastrous transition to liberalism should watch Adam Curtis'
"Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone".
Sure it's long, dark and not a cheesy meme, but it might improve that cognitive function and prolong the attention span from tiktok video/4chin meme to something more.
If you're a Britbong it might be free, if not, either torrent or watch on Youtube (links might die from copyright and the sort). Movie is essentially descriptive and as apolitical as it can be, considering the subject matter.
You should also watch the other documentaries from Adam Curtis too.
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Bruh. Literal BBC archival video, with no narration and very little context. This doesn't help your simping for the US cock up your backside as it was US neocons, with US government backing, that came in with their shitty shock economic therapy and literally created the oligarchs who bought out shares from desperate workers, who promptly turned around and played them like a Washington Square chess hustler checkmating a mark in four moves. They are still seething to this day, ergo the virulent anti-Russian rhetoric from DC.

I could dredge up video to make the US look as if it has always been an authoritarian nightmare ruled by megalomaniacs too and. Adam Curtis is merely a liberal who believes Isaiah Berlin had the answers to all the world's ills (lmao).

Instead of watching someone else's cherry picked 30 year videos maybe read some books on the subject from different sources with different opinions; however, it wont change the point made by @demicolon that "border and land disputes ought to be resolved by people who live there and have the will to defend them, not some international coalitions.."
 
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Pretty crazy reading through a nearly 500 page thread on the Ukraine war and some people still are spouting the Mass Media "Democracy in the most corrupt nation in Europe is at stake! Zelensky is a War Hero!" lines. And if they get called out, they just fall back to "Putin Lover!" Like real life is Harry Potter vs the Death Eaters. Shits wild.
Post like 2-3 of those examples, where Zelensky is called a war hero and people are saying Ukraine is a democracy and this is the reason it must receive help.
Bruh. Literal BBC archival video, with no narration and very little context. This doesn't help your simping for the US cock up your backside as it was US neocons, with US government backing, that came in with their shitty shock economic therapy and literally created the oligarchs who bought out shares from desperate workers, who promptly turned around and played them like a Washington Square chess hustler checkmating a mark in four moves. They are still seething to this day, ergo the virulent anti-Russian rhetoric from DC.

I could dredge up video to make the US look as if it has always been an authoritarian nightmare ruled by megalomaniacs too and. Adam Curtis is merely a liberal who believes Isiah Berlin had the answers to all the world's ills (lmao).

Instead of watching someone else's cherry picked 30 year videos maybe read some books on the subject from different sources with different opinions; however, it wont change the point made by @demicolon that "border and land disputes ought to be resolved by people who live there and have the will to defend them, not some international coalitions.."
You still post as if I like the US. Also, I don't have much to learn from the Curtis series, I fucking lived through that era as a child, and seen a lot of its misery with my own eyes.
Unlike you who lived some sheltered life in the US, or ran with your parents there, I actually made the choice to stay and work to improve the land that my blood binds me to.
The Curtis series should do the job for Westerners that don't really understand this part of the planet. Of course vatnik sympathizers will hate it, as we all know that there's a continuity line that extends from the Russian Empire, to the USSR, to the Russian Federation, and that not much has changed other than the veneer of modernity and respectability.
 
Post like 2-3 of those examples, where Zelensky is called a war hero and people are saying Ukraine is a democracy and this is the reason it must receive help.

You still post as if I like the US. Also, I don't have much to learn from the Curtis series, I fucking lived through that era as a child, and seen a lot of its misery with my own eyes.
Unlike you who lived some sheltered life in the US, or ran with your parents there, I actually made the choice to stay and work to improve the land that my blood binds me to.
 
Russian oldier transitioned somewhere in Luhansk Oblast.

My rough translation of the note:
Honey, in the time I've been here, I've seen a lot of hell. There wasn't this much death in Chechnya, not even in Afghanistan. There's plenty of human meat. But that's not why I'm leaving.
Here, the russian people are nothing, and the Chechens rule. They're literally lawless, they attack, they fuck everybody up, but no one will do anything.
Ksyuha, they took all the money you sent, and they did something to me. So you know, I resisted. And remember that you and I don't owe anybody anything. That's for sure now.
Love [you], meet you on the other side.
Jesus, why won't LDPRQ+ fags resist for once against their new masters?

i miss when we used to point our demoralisation propaganda at the enemy instead of jerking off and huffing farts over it ourselves
 
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